Recording Drums with the Yamaha EAD10

[@rdavidr]

Yamaha sent me the EAD10 and DT50S and wanted to see how I could use it. I often get asked about cheap and easy ways to record drums for those starting out. Ill be the first to say that this is a GREAT tool for doing exactly that! How would you use it? More info on the EAD10 usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/drums/ea_drums/ead/ead10/index.html First Practice Track: orlandodrummer.com/shop-practice-loops/ Second Track (original recording from 2012): allegationsva.bandcamp.com/track/spill-the-truth

[@nicholasandres6705]

If you don’t already, you might as well endorse Meinl

[@nicholasandres6705]

Ps. You’re awesome

[@jjdudes2843]

Nice video dudw

[@captinZpiggles]

Your mics sound better in other vids but they sound really crap and ur drums when u put the mic on a really big comparison to the mics u used now to before...

[@taylorgriffinmusic]

Thanks man! Always awesome to watch your videos!

[@aTF2player]

Five drums? Four cymbals? Easy there Bozzio.

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

Player lolll

[@danieladamczyk08]

*Easy there Bozzio.* That's a new one.

Easy there Bozzio. Nice.

[@TheStudioDrummer]

lol! What till you see my current setup! No apologies!!

[@aTF2player]

Trevian Harrell smh, Dave's going bozzio on us

[@philhorler5712]

Who else would love to see a standalone version of the mic that attaches to the bass drum, so that you could record that directly into a computer, so people can still use it to record without the need of the expensive controller?

[@Slay-Man]

I know I'm kinda late but you can use Zoom H series as a stereo mic. H4n has a stereo mic and 2 xlr combo input if you want to connect more cables. You can connect to your pc via Usb cable and use it as and audio inteface. And it's half the price of an EAD.

[@JokeR664music]

@@Slay-Man Thank you 🙏🏼

[@machete660]

every video I seen on this I was like, "what about IN A MIX" and you sir are the only one to answer that question so far

[@wizardcoolio]

Turn a bass drum into a big snare drum

[@jacobsmith1877]

I recommend blending it with your mic setup. The EAD has a great mid range punchiness and dirt to it, compared to the clean sound you are getting from your mics. Blending the EAD signal in with your mic setup would give a thicker sound overall and I know that's how I would use it.

[@konradkarolczyk9138]

There's no phase/latency issue if you blend with live microphones?

[@timpo9238]

​@@konradkarolczyk9138All mics that are a different distance from the source will always have a different phase. This may not always be a problem but in this case you should probably time align the mics with delay. If you are working in post you can time align the drums acording to the close mics. If working live you obviously can't add negative delay so just delay everything to the farthest away source (room/overhead). In most cases you shouldn't time align the rooms, because it's there for the ambance and ads mostly nice phasines but you can experiment with this.

[@Kaedes8140]

I tried it myself, its pretty decent if you're recording for a demo or a pre-prod. For metal drummers out there, the trigger sucks for double bass. Altough, u can plug an extra one for the bass drum and mix it with the ead 10 trigger and it works perfectly !

[@darkwill15]

What trigger do you use? Do you need the controller aswell or just the trigger

[@dustinplays6718]

Late to the party here, but am I the only one who actually preffered the EAD10 audio over the standard mics? I'm admittedly a bit of a minimalist, old-school dude, but the drums just sounded so much more alive to me. I like the fact that this thing will kinda make you work to actually tune your drums, which is a lost art these days.

[@milesschmidt54]

Mic audio seems like it could have been better.....

[@whataburger8319]

Miles Schmidt yeah, it’s not really a fair comparison

[@IT-kone]

@Vincenzo The mic sound was HUGELY processed in the first song. So why not process the sounds in same style in the EAD? The mic sound isn't the same in both songs, therefore it isn't the mics raw sound what we just heard. I think it's quite strange. :/

[@whataburger8319]

Vincenzo Nigro lol 😂

[@iatros76]

It seem like more compressed sound with the mic

[@abrahamnaula]

He must've not mixed the mic audio on purpose.

[@jameson3793]

i could honestly watch you play drums all day, you inspire me to learn more and actually improve

[@kentuckychromedesign]

Best demo of this unit that I've seen so far.

[@MakeSomething]

Pretty cool demo! Can't wait to see what you do with it!

[@rickgrossdrums]

Great vid man. Probably the best one I've seen on the EAD. 👍

[@kevincooper279]

I picked up one of these when it first came out. I really wanted to use it like an effects pedal for drums. It was fun to mess around with, but a pain in the butt in a live setting. It caused feedback and sound engineers couldn't figure out how to mix it. If I wanted to use it to run triggers... that is another $200-300. Now I am in $800 or more... I might as well find a used Roland kit for that cost. I ended up returning it.

[@KingBlonde]

I do really dig the mic audio sound, a snare tuned like that doesn't always work in heavier mixes but it sounds great in both tracks.

[@FootyEmpire]

What happened to the Stave snare build?

[@grazianodrummer]

I think EAD is worth if you want to record on a budget, and if you need some triggers for your metal band. Two uses in one. The fact that they also make the app with IOS that can sync music and video automatically, also loop sections of the songs,slow down or make the song audio faster without effecting the pitch of the song. I think YAMAHA have built a great products for multiple use. I'm save up and buy it.

[@kryptoniterazor]

Very cool device. I don't think I've seen any hardware that explicitly combines electronic and acoustic signals before, but obviously studio engineers have been doing that on drums for decades so it's about time we caught up. It seems like it'd be a good for gigs where bringing a ton of extra mics and cables and stands is a pain and you can't always get your placements dialed in. The cymbal sounds are noticeably less bright because of the placement of the mics, so maybe just pairing it with a mono or stereo overhead would get you the best of both worlds if you filter out the lows/mids to avoid phasing issues. Might even be good to have 2 XLR jacks on the EAD so you could blend the signals.

[@lodougherty]

Seems like an okay option. I prefer the real audio from the actual kit over any of the EAD stuff I've heard though, but appreciate this video brother!

[@berxsol]

Have you been practicing more? you sound way more groovy in this video

[@Tateisadrummachine]

I wish more content could be made showing the EAD blended with a room mic or overheads, with the EAD being treated as a set of close mics

[@TonyVazquez8265]

I'm sold. That's a badass unit, would fit right at home in a home recording studio environment and/or a band rehearsal space. I like its features... I'm a huge fan of Compression in the drum mix, and this unit has it. I'm also a huge fan of the incredible Yamaha RX5 drum machine, and this unit has that sound! Reverbs, and a mad gang of effects galore... this unit has all that, And TRIGGERS! If you put that EAD10 in front of me you'd have to put a gun to my head to pry me away from the traditional Mic recording standards to get me to use the EAD10 instead; because I'm always learning about studio mic recording methods, and along comes this EAD10 to make me wanna forget everything I've been learning about drum mic setups and recording, and so forth. Would I buy the EAD10? Yes. It makes life easier setting up to record drum play-throughs for KZbin and instructional videos to share with fans and friends... And, the EAD10 is great for recording the drums to your smartphone or iPad. High Fives!

[@jamesfranco7060]

I really like Space Banana sound!

[@parkermurray7435]

Truly the best of both worlds.

[@phipps8871]

This would be sick if only it didn’t cost more than my kit lol

[@rupinderkaur6598]

Phipps and your kit costs?

[@FPChris]

And if the brain was built into the bd trigger part.

[@pastorryker]

Get used for around 400. Still really good and can find barely used.

[@TTP719]

With the EAD your kit will sound like you paid double what you did for it.

[@eddieh1985]

This is amazing. I’ve had triggers. It was a pain removing them, and running cables. It was worse than mics.

[@toddd.7924]

Logged on for a product review but it's mainly about what YOU like about it and YOUR beats that you saved.

[@danyelow75]

Loved you "Tight" preset as well as the video contents. Congrats!

[@Stallagmite]

very cool, I'm just a bit baffled though at how something that sits on the bass drum seems to struggle the most reproducing the kick sound.

[@stevenkorenek389]

Im sold on this. Your Sample selections sound spot on, to me, Dave.

[@JamesLivewire]

First hit of bass drum on the second song during guitar intro and I’m sold! This is exactly what I was hoping you could get out of the EAD.

[@jerrydilger]

Great video mate! When I initially found this product I didnt fully understand what it could do at first as there was no real decent videos explaining it. This one is hands down the best out there! Great comparison between the different mics too! I personally love the look of what the EAD-10 can do, great for anyone after a simple, low cost drum mic set up.

[@thebreakfastmenu]

Switching between the EAD and the mics was actually a pretty cool effect.

[@mattryan6886]

Definitely think I should get one of these for my hybrid drum kit. This with My Ludwig break beats kit and strike multipad would be a killer combination, the Sweetwater demo video also shows EAD as a channel in your daw. I think I’m going to try and find a used unit and pick One up

[@Desborough_Heathen]

How does it sound with the mic and EAD sounds recorded simultaneously and blended together Dave?

[@rickymastersound]

Danny Finch I saw a review and the outcome mixing studio mics & EAD are outrageous as I could hear....

[@mr.jbr2701]

my thoughts exactly after hearing the sterile fx.......

[@thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396]

3 toms. hey you finally became one of us. but what I suggest if you like having your rise above you bass drums like in a four piece but have 3 toms you should move yiur toms to in front of your snare. it's what i do.

[@meeks1869]

I would TOTALLY buy that! Amazing piece of hardware

[@DrummerDA87]

that fill at 9:55 was great :D good video too

[@bytorthesnowdogs2112]

@rdavidr 6 years later do you still feel this is the best budget mic system for drummers on social media playing covers?

[@Thegameshowcase]

That seems like a fantastic product! 10/10!

[@blythe1331]

Dude you cymbals sound sooo good

[@rickymastersound]

I bought it yesterday... just as David with the snare trigger....saw many reviews about it and let me tell you... nothing like this one... i'll be updating when I use it

[@YamahaMusicUSA]

We'd love to hear your thoughts on it, Ricky!

[@rickymastersound]

Yamaha Corporation of America EAD10 is an awesome product... Enhances my drum kit sound & takes it to another dimmension of sound... As a drummer on a scale from 0 to 10 i'll give an 8.5... As a live sound tech i'll give it a 9... I wish there could be a firmware update so both Drummers & Sound Tech could bring the EAD10 some interesting uses... Uses like - recording both AUX & ESD sound on the USB - Individual volume & EQ Mics settings to have a more controlled sound on the mixer or headphones... I'll post a link using the EAD10 DRUM RECORDED TRACK with my GOPRO ambience sound during a gig... Obviously the drums will be clearer due to the track from the EAD10 - NO SETTINGS ON THE EAD10 - NO TRIGGERS - NO EFX - NO REVERB - JUST THE NATURAL SOUND OF MY DRUM KIT... ENJOY kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ_Ch414irCZrqM

[@wireguy123]

@@rickymastersound So you have to have your own amp or go through the PA know to hear the EAD10?

[@traviswoodall6547]

Just don’t put your ride cymbal anywhere NEAR this thing. If you have a bass drum mounted 2 up and 1 down setup like this it’s probably fine. A 1 up and 1 down setup with rid in between, no bueno. ALL you’re gonna hear is that ride cymbal. Same issue if you have an offset tom setup.

[@adam.august]

Thanks so much dude! I was considering getting one but now I'm sure I'll just go get normal mics, since I am a huge 1-up 1-down fan.

[@dapdrums]

I think these are fun and indeed a professional tool; I predict we'll be seeing a bunch of these on the resale market in about 4-6 months. If you want a great practice tool; play 2 up toms (thus your ride is already higher and to the right); have quality isolated earphones; and don't really expect (or desire) to take this to live shows - then you will really find this product amazing. A++; If you don't use that extra tom and have to (weirdly) move your ride cymbal over (the score will drop to a B+). Don't have great headphones (C+). Really think it will work amazingly live w/o additional mics (C) or find that it is hard to get band and drums in your live mix because there isn't an Aux IN then (C- or D+).

[@courtbeall7768]

Really well done Brother.I'm betting Roland won't let this go unchallenged.I'm frustrated using a 57 and Audix D6 into my Tascam Lo-Fi portastudio.The Yamaha looks so much simpler.

[@JeserNoob]

loved to finally hear you play some more rock

[@isaacvandoren4733]

I see a lot of tasty meinls. Is there an endorsement coming up? 🤔

[@jacobboyd7965]

Isaac Van Doren I don’t know, he was using Sabian hats at the start of the video, but he is using a full Yamaha kit

[@isaacvandoren4733]

Jacob Boyd that is true

[@rupinderkaur6598]

Isaac Van Doren companys don't endorse him as he would work their finished product too.😂

[@classic_uzi4272]

You can see the nostalgia in daves face during the second song 🤙🏼😂

[@NUBCAKE101]

That "Tight" preset you made sounds like it would be really good to make the drums cut through in a mix. Kinda reminds me of how Tame Impala drums are mixed.

[@hannovermusic]

Hey David, nice Video! I own a EAD10 by myself and I wondered how you made your "TIGHT" preset. Can you send me the configuration data?

[@cierradrums]

Homie thank you so much for this!! You answered every question I had. Really appreciate you!!

[@jeim5480]

5:47 sounds like Jeff Porcaro's drumkit from the Rosanna shuffle demo vhs video

[@philippefrater2000]

Got mine now! It's a must have for any Drummer! 🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🖖🏻

[@Elboy522]

never thought id see David playing a 5 piece

[@garyfoutch5974]

Simply Great Video ! It was fun watching. Your playing along was also real good.... I liked everything you did.. you are good not just a duffer drummer.. You have a lot of good moves. Your selection of effects on each part was real good too.. Thank you !

[@the6ig6adwolf]

Someone is looking for a Meinl endorsement.

[@lucasbrucas9632]

A fun video would be playing normal songs with the crazy scenes! Also that tight scene was amazing sounding. Sounded like something from Yes. Keep it up.

[@702138500]

I liked the EAD for the first track and the straight mic audio for the second track.

[@drum_thug]

How does it work in a practice setting with a full band? Does the mic pic up bass and guitar?

[@brandonquod4910]

Drum Thug theyre not mics theyre triggers which only sense vibrations that theyre touching so no

[@russ6541]

Brandon Quod thats only true for the snare and kick. The rest is picked by the stereo mics mounted on the bass drum hoop.

[@russ6541]

Drum Thug so yes it might depending on your studio and how close your band members/amps are

[@brandonquod4910]

I am a Meme oh ok i didnt realize that

[@jerrycatania7159]

It picks up sound within a 4 foot radius.

[@russellmorse-do4rb]

My wife won this from Sweetwater drumfest, she can't wait to use it on her kit

[@alexbreyer6921]

Serious question: I see there are multiple settings of what snare or kick sound to choose from. What if you want the sound of your snare and kick? How reliable is it at capturing that?

[@matt_pick]

What's it like with dynamic ranges? I've heard that's the main downside to triggers and electronic drums, doesn't give the same authentic feel and can sound sightly fake and programmed. Doesn't always catch the same variety of tones as an acoustic setup. I'd be interested to know how this handles a wider dynamic range.

[@harrisonstaley7742]

Can see this being useful in a live context. Record samples of your kick and snare at home with a decent mic, then use the ead to trigger the samples live. Cut down on the channels needed in the desk, do your own mixing.

[@MeTuLHeD]

How would I use it? Hmmm. I think I would use it to add a bit of definition and fat to my toms. Perhaps a bit of sub content to my kick. That's it. By the way, in your video where 'EAD Audio' appears in the lower right corner (like at 12:32) how is the EAD10 picking up the full mix including cymbals? That little bass drum mounted mic picks everything up?

[@GAMER-rw8jo]

is somebody being endorsed??? ;)

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

It seems more like an effects rack for drums. I think this might be cool if it came with pads to mute your drums. One of the reasons why one might want an electronic kit is so they can play it without being too loud.

[@adityabhagavatula9896]

Finally! a video!

[@topiasnylen]

You should do diy double single pedal (like Duallist) !:D

[@Chad-WTF]

dude that last sound was pretty bad ass had a early foo fighters sound

[@wallyordona159]

Cool effects! Sweet piece of equipment.

[@robharrison8902]

Really digging the all-meinl cymbals, man! Keep up the good work.

[@maladykiller]

Now does this work for players using 2 kick drums? Or do I need another EAD trigger on that 2nd one?

[@Rustyjamesman]

this looks awesome!!

[@kmier2000]

yeah you can hear that rough garage-iness on the EAD. I think it's a perfect bedroom rockstar tool, not much more. I wish I could use it live, but it'd be a nightmare to control the feedback...

[@panicrev555]

Nobody mentions if the module separates the individual drum instruments to be transmitted via midi on their own channels to a DAW. The manuals, all three of them, do not explain what gets transmitted via midi.

[@TonyGellaDrums]

I like presets like Tight, Solid Rock, Vintage, Distortion and not I’m not big fun this frogs effects. Natural sound - give so cool results!! Drums sounds like part of music. Give to drumset character. I prefer EAD sound more. Sure this great device always can mix with any mics, when you want! Great device! Imagine this device long time- and it comes from to reality!! Wow!!

[@jimmybarr2705]

Hello I I bought the Yamaha EAD10 on Amazon and I set it up and then of course I have somebody helping me because I’m a become blind around 2018 with the infection in the eye so I am I have to do everything by hearing and stuff like that I’m feeling my question is when I did the scenes the different scenes and all that I don’t know how I did it but I can’t figure out again and make him buttons and knobs like when I turn knobs it doesn’t work and I guess I have to have a button and then do another something can you please help me

[@tierankarb]

10:59 What is that box that you route your mics into???

[@joshuamarraccini4503]

Please make more videos.

[@davidcurtis4446]

Loving your sound! Would love to see a video on your take on mixing room mics with close mics!

[@dapdrums]

My second comment here, but I do use the EAD pretty often. I find the headphone out gives really - really great sounds to my IEMs where as the L/Mono out... not so much. I feel like the Headphone out is studio sounding and the L/mono out is way more ambient noise from the room. Maybe that is just me.

[@tapmusic9863]

very usefull the EAD but so far i like the drum mics more, keep up the good work :)

[@angelambriz4270]

I think the only thing is you could’ve made the mics on the bass trigger less hot so they didn’t pic up the cymbals as much.

[@kyleblair]

Please record with both and mix the two audio feeds. I wanna hear it!

[@gabeitch3542]

My thoughts, preferably have a normal mic setup. But the EAD10 works if you want it to if you don’t need a superb recording for a somg

[@lajeanette33]

I'd like to see that video about the app and also if could demonstrates more presets. You only get 2 or 3 watching demos and to me that not enough. I hope i'll be king enough to do it :)

[@joelmartin3213]

I thought the ead sounded bigger and not so compressed seems like the ead would be a good choice provided the price is Feasible

[@alaingonzalez2575]

Hi David, I'm a bit concerned by the bleed in the onbord mic in a band situation (rehersal or performance). Do you have any experience or info on that? Great work as always. I love your channel.

[@traviswoodall6547]

I can tell you, it’s terrible for live use.

[@RoeShamBoe]

6:20 curious as to why you're going to the snare with your left hand instead of right?

[@clearestapricotpencil4125]

Lol he’s allowed to play with the left hand if he chooses to Looks like he wants to keep a certain sticking

[@KingBlonde]

Look at the pattern, he's not playing constant single strokes so hitting the snare with his left hand is the logical way of playing this beat.

[@joshvlad6090]

Hey man, I’ve been watching your videos for a while and I really love the content! I am pretty new to the whole acoustic drum set thing and was wondering if you could do a video on how exactly you tune your drums. I’ve watched numerous people but I can’t find anyone who has drums tuned as nice as yours are. It would be much appreciated!

[@the_natrix9959]

It is amazing how many simply do not understand how this device works.

[@MalleMetal]

Could it be that the ead is recorded in mono by mistake? i hardly heard any stereo spread on those recordings. Thank you for the test never the less!

[@philippefrater2000]

I got one coming tomorow...

[@twinsmm1]

Ok, I'm a little confused. So, the snare and kick are the only drums with triggers (and you hear no dry sound?). What is picking up cymbals when recording with EAD? I'm guessing there is still an overhead for those? Consequently picking up dry sound too?

[@zchrh328]

I would Ike to see you blend the ead audio with the mic audio. I think that would be really cool.

[@rockboy360]

Even the mic only would work wonders in an actual mix as third kinda overhead/front kit mic.

[@Lionelguerin6]

Dear David. Thanks for your video! I just bought an ead10., 😁 I want to record with rec n share app but it does not work! (Android smartphone, USB cable to host = not recognized by the ead10). Do you know any tutorial about recording this way (rec n share) with also troubleshootings and solutions? Thanks a lot, Lionel Paris, France 🇫🇷

[@LeoKako1]

Hi, great video!But I have a question: Can I plug my Yamaha EAD 10 directly into my Mac with just one cable ?Or do I need a separate audio interface?

[@brentdrummer5177]

Hi can I use it and just mic my kick drum?

[@davidscott41]

Have you ever tried bells with a kit some of the Chinese or heavy brass bells have great sound love your videos