Using Vintage Canning Supplies

Today we're looking at vintage canning supplies and how to use them.

[@BostonBorn]

You had me at “alphabet gangs” 😂🤣😍

[@BlessedStacy]

I had to subscribe just because she said that…lol

[@missreynolds3637]

Yep me too.

[@pacearrow4620]

She got all-dun-up for the occasion. Fabulous SWEETS!!

[@paulfletcher323]

One of the best canning videos on KZbin Anyone thinking of starting to can,their time would be well spent watching this great information Once I got over the bonnet and I listened I found out that you are an authority on this subject and you come with a wealth of knowledge and a great sense of humor Love the gun on porch clip

[@erowzer]

This is amazing! I inherited a ton of zinc and porcelain lids with nos rubbers. It's kinda hard to get good info about how to can with them. All the FB groups are gloom and doom about them. I love vintage jars, and now I have more courage to pick them up at sales. Random - I'm also a nurse in Indiana! :-D

[@maryglidden2943]

This came up on my side bar and I'm so glad it did! I have some old /vintage jars and those rubbers that you used on the zinc lid coffee jars (3 new/old packages!) THis will be fun to try and can with them. I thank you for your little talk at the front- I have been canning for years but after watching some of the canning videos they have me questioning some of my canning. Yes we need to be careful but I think sometimes the US thinks they know all!

[@ann2155]

You really need to make more videos. I really enjoy this one. Love the ending.

[@rudedogfarms256]

Thank you! I believe it’s coming. I feel compelled now that I see the response to this one.

[@missreynolds3637]

@@rudedogfarms256 I notice not many canning police have commented which is a surprise in itself. Probably the majority of views I'm guessing? That's ok though hater plays count too yes they do. Keep on keeping on.

[@user-uo4ye7em3q]

Thank you for making this video! You helped give me the confidence to try glass canning lids. I will not be going back to disposable lids again! I have approximately 200 old glass ball regular mouth and 50 glass wide mouth now also using the bale style. The success rate is fantastic. Thank you again for putting out the information

[@64samsky]

Thank you for this awesome video...from a new canner.

[@lockeyanderson3597]

Love this video, I'm so glad I found it. I to love old jars and lids. Canning is one of my favorite things to do. And have a cellar full of homemade goodies. Looking forward to your next video.

[@bonniegarber9915]

I am really happy that I came across your channel!! You have been very informative. I have some 63 lids and at one time I had a jar, now I can't find it! 😢 I was at a garage sale and I almost shouted you've got 63 lids!!! The guy gave them to me!! 😊 I think because I knew what they were and he was impressed! Lol So, again, thank you! P.s. ... I really like your collage of lids and boxes!

[@sjje2843]

Hi, I’m from the UK, and I have vintage jars dating back from the late 1930’s to 1980’s. They are various European brands: British - Kilner; Foresters; and the Co-op with glass lids and rubber gaskets. French - La Parfait clip jars (aka wire bail); La Meilleur recently acquired and searching for the wire clip and gaskets to fit. More recently non vintage has included German Weck and Italian Bormioli jars. I have canned successfully with the vintage British ones (which happens to be the majority of my jars as I have be collecting them for years at various boot sales (aka thrift markets) and done a test run with the La Parfait one which incidentally can be used in the pressure canner (I just had a fight to open them because they sealed very well). My real issue is getting hold of more of the gaskets (aka seals), but I have a cunning plan which I may share once I tried it out. I’m even collecting additional glass lids and using them on the modern Kilner regular mouths with gaskets and have used them successfully on them. I was wondering if the La Parfait and or Weck rubber gaskets would fit some of your bail jars, as they do various sizes that just may fit. Enjoyed your video and it is nice to see other people also doing like me and using what they got and or can get hold off to preserve food.

[@copperhousefarm4794]

I live in the U.S. , last year a grocery store had Kilner jars and replacement gasket. I stock up on as many as I could afford. They’re expensive on Amazon. One thing I like about Kilner jars is that they use stainless steel. Over the years I have collected many jars from the thrift stores. It has been great!

[@rudedogfarms256]

I’m not sure if they would fit. My favorite place to find the old style rubbers is EBay. People sell them as new old stock. You can search “vintage canning supplies” and find a lot.

[@missreynolds3637]

I enjoyed this comment and the reply about kilner jars which I am going to now check out. Wonder if any of you have seen on YT her homestead skills and Rosered homestead have both used the rubbers from Tattler and harvest guard with the current tin flats, last time I saw they were still holding at six months. I would definitely try that as I have had more losses with the "re useable" plastic lids after they sealed, than I have re using the used tin lids.

[@paulfletcher323]

Also in the UK I have purchased the seals from eBay

[@paulfletcher323]

Pull the tab of the rubber seal with pliers gently it will let enough air in to break the vacuum

[@joannenesbitt4521]

Thanks for the great info. 😊. In 1906 in San Francisco California the Kerr glass canning factory survived this terrible earthquake. The damage was all around the factory but nothing was broken in the factory.

[@donaldorr8508]

thanks, good video learned about the bottom of the jars as well!!

[@anniekochera]

Thank you for this. I appreciate the video on antique glass lids. I find mine at Antique stores, much cheaper than on e-bay and you can check for nicks and crack right there. Harder to find the taller bands for the No. 10 glass lids. I use my Tattler rubber gaskets with the glass lids. Thank you. And thank you for your dedication to being a nurse. You are greatly appreciated. God Bless.

[@debbie845]

Oh sweetheart you to need to come back last video was a year ago your knowledge is priceless. Help the helpless. Blessings!

[@rudedogfarms256]

I promise to make this a priority!

[@kimwaters8806]

I'm so glad to have found and watched your video!! I figured the glass lids were the same method as Tattler/Harvest Guard lids. But I had no idea how to do the zinc porcelain caps. I have NOS of them. And loved the bail jar tips. I remember using the parrifin wax for jellies/jams when I was little. I cannot say thank you enough! Now I need to figure out how to see more of your videos.

[@rudedogfarms256]

Please subscribe to our channel! We’re just starting to post videos but have been homesteading for years so we have lots to share!

[@madellinesantana9386]

Excellent video

[@abcxyz-io7wt]

Very interesting 👍💝

[@abitofhopeinc.9504]

Love it!! I have tons of the zinc lids. I’m excited!

[@hollynelson543]

Thank you for this only been canning 3 years and I didn't know about the glass lids in the U.S.A.

[@copperhousefarm4794]

I have watched canning videos in different countries. They reuse ♻️ different jars all the time. Also the lids are called lug lids and they can be replaced when needed. I think why companies no longer want to put their food in jars, is because they’re heavy and the weight. The cost of transportation is high!🙁

[@gardenstatesowandsew]

Thank you. Very interesting. I’m a beginner

[@throttlebeholder]

Great Video!

[@lotus....]

It was fun going through all the old jars and lids with you. I've been canning for years but like all the old stuff. I have some of what you showed. I saw someone at our local Farmer's Market selling prairie bonnets along with aprons etc. Now I'm wondering if bonnets is a thing? lol

[@journeytothehomestead9713]

Omg! Great video, I’ve just started canning and been wanting to find something reusable. Thank you!!

[@giselelavallee7259]

You can can in the wired jar (your green) if you use the like “Le Parfait” see the video on how to can with those type of jars. Great video. Easy to do and get a seal. The key is to let them cool fully inside the canner the next day then release the side clip and hold the jar up like the Crown/Corona jars. Do not place the metal clip back on (just like a ring on a mason jar).

[@rudedogfarms256]

The wire bails are some of my favorite jars! 😍Thanks for your comment!

[@hannelieh]

thx!

[@sailerspiff]

Geeze Louise! Thanks so much for posting! I have inherited canning stuff, and my husband loves to come home with 'look at this cool jar', but I had no idea what to do with them. You just explained soooo much to me. So I'm now a liker and subscriber. Party on Rude Dog! 🥰

[@rudedogfarms256]

🤣🤣🤣

[@teresacoffman5529]

Can you re-use the split tab rubber rings? It would be cool to see you do a canning session with each of the lid styles. Especially the zinc lids with porcelain inserts!

[@rudedogfarms256]

You normally can’t reuse the split-tab rubbers because if they’re sealed properly you have to tear the split to break the seal. I was thinking some videos of each lid style would be good too! Thank you for commenting!

[@sherimcneil3079]

Yes!! Please do a canning video with the antique jars!!

[@sunflower2499]

That was so cool!!! Thanks

[@crissytuttle2132]

Great info! Thank you!

[@robinsnest68]

I love the bonnet, apron and then carhardt pants!!! Hahahaha!

[@kmlamor]

This was just what I needed! Girl, I got it bad too 😂

[@hollynelson543]

All info I didn't know, thank you.

[@hopeburbo4372]

Birthday Wishes to your granny, Thanks for the video

[@frances3424]

Thanks for the information on the zinc caps. My sister gave me a box of them along with the rubbers but I did not know how to use them. Now I can practice.

[@rudedogfarms256]

My pleasure!

[@patrupe4499]

Thank you. I have dozens of zinc lids to try to use.

[@uptoolate2793]

The 63s went out in the 70s. I remember my grandmother being angry about it. The 63 came about in the late 30s.

[@Woolmouse]

Great video thank you for sharing

[@rudedogfarms256]

Thank you!

[@jdbfortney]

I just bought glass lids at the flea market, today. $1 each. Idk if that's good but I was excited. Thank you so much for this video! New subscriber!

[@rudedogfarms256]

That’s a great deal!

[@jdbfortney]

@@rudedogfarms256 oh good!!!

[@exclusivelynailsbyjessica7892]

I just saw a bunch of those glass lids at the thrift store! I'll have to go back and hope they're still there!

[@rudedogfarms256]

Oh wow!!!

[@harveyhampton3404]

Luv U grandma cuzzin

[@angelpearce]

Love your vintage artwork. Thanks for the interesting info. I have some vintage jars that I had thought I might use if times get tougher : )

[@rudedogfarms256]

Thank you!

[@hankwall1594]

Great video! I'm just starting to get into canning and I love the idea of reducing waste! Thanks for sharing your experience and info! What should I look for so far as brand and size for a glass lid for a modern wide mouth mason jar? There's the Ball no 10 for regular mouth modern jars. Did Ball also make a glass lid that fits modern wide mouth jars?

[@sherimcneil3079]

Just found your channel and subscribed!!

[@rudedogfarms256]

Yay! Thank you!

[@maxwebster7572]

I have baskets of lids that are rusty. I don't really need them but I was thinking of soaking in molasses and zinc or nickel plating them one day.

[@giselelavallee7259]

In Canada our Canadian Tire chains do sell the Viceroy seals for $1.99 CAD / box of 12 and they have them all the time for the old Crown and Corona jars with glass lids.

[@rudedogfarms256]

That’s awesome!

[@faye4908]

Home Hardware has the Viceroys too... up to $2.50 now

[@angieh.527]

I loved this video! I love canning and history so it was a treat to watch! I have tattler lids. I wonder if the tattler rubber gaskets would also work on the glass lids. Do you think they would?

[@rudedogfarms256]

No sorry, they don’t. You need the size 10 rubbers for the glass lids. Thank you for commenting!

[@mio.giardino]

I use the vintage glass lids. I’m finding them and the jars on Kijiji or in antique stores. The cheapest place I’ve found them are estate sales. The rubber seals, here in Canada, are still sold in Canadian Tire. If you do use the vintage jars, only use them in water bath…lady I bought them from said that the pressure canner is too much for them. Those ‘thicker’ rings, don’t put them in the dishwasher, they will rust.

[@createyoursecondhalf]

Absolutely loved this! I’m new to this but I’ve been saving old jars I find. Zinc lids too. Is there a way to clean old jars that had mud in them so they could be reused?

[@rudedogfarms256]

Thank you so much for saying so! Absolutely! Scrub them good in hot soapy water. You can also soak old jars in vinegar to help scrub off any cloudy mineral deposits.

[@anniedavis8505]

I know this is an older video but I have found there are two kinds of viceroy rubbers. One is kind of orangish in colour and the other is more reddish. I have great success with the darker reddish and less seals with the orange ones. I don’t know why.

[@bernadetterocha3693]

This was fascinating, thank you! I'm getting supplies to learn canning since our pres said there'd be food shortages in the us due to russian sanctions so I figure this would be helpful to learn. I was also recently wondering if the sanctions would affect materials for the lids to be made and was wondering about alternatives.

[@enascott5963]

Bless your heart you finally opened your eyes! I wish more would realize our country is in for a bad time. Prep like crazy! You need shelf stable food to last at least 3 years. It’s almost to late to get started😞

[@rudedogfarms256]

It’s never too late to get started tho it can seem overwhelming if we allow the fear to creep in! Every jar is a little bit more! God bless and happy canning!

[@sheilarogers3448]

Would you by any chance have canning recipes from old style canning before ball became popular? Or have any videos of depression era canning?

[@rudedogfarms256]

That’s a great video idea! I’ll get on it! 🫡

[@jessicapearson9479]

No, your not being paranoid. Ball works with the FDA and other agencies and Ball is the one who tells them what is safe or not. Your not being paranoid. Companies like Ball make more that 50% of their income if of flat lids.

[@junetrevino1902]

I came across someone selling these glass lids with the zink rings , they asking a dollar a lid I’m pretty stoked

[@rudedogfarms256]

That’s a deal!

[@OldSchoolPrepper]

hi Rude, i'm a long time canner and i'm really interesed in how you know that the jars with the glass nubs (on the bottom) are OK for pressure canning...were you taught that? or noticed it or did you read it or learn it somewhere? I get asked a lot of questions about canning and I just did a couple vids on canning in the Atlas Mason jars in which spaghetti sauces is sold (like Classico) I even talked to the company and they said do NOT pressure can in them...they have those little nubs on them though so i'm interested in your info. Thanks!

[@danetteclark4066]

I just watched another woman that cut rings out of a silicone rolling mat.

[@csteinbach7582]

you mention you can measure the rubber seals and have them made. can you share where? thank you!

[@neilmunro6683]

Great.. I would be interesting to find a way to vacuum seal store bought jars.. Used the following methods.. Dennie vac system..jar in vacuum canister quick release method..Commercial chamber vacuum sealer.. it broke the jar.. kindness Lochness Scottish Highlands..

[@paintitright3609]

How do you release the seal on the glass lids with viceroy rubber? I bought quite a few, I'm washing them now, one is sealed empty and I can't figure out how to release the seal. Its a ball and bail jar. What a great job you did with this😉

[@rudedogfarms256]

Thank you! I gently use a butter knife on the rubber. If you have an old one that’s stuck, soaking in warm soapy water may help.

[@rudedogfarms256]

Thank you! I use a butter knife on the rubber to gently break the seal without breaking the glass lid. If it’s sealed empty, soaking in warm soapy water may help.

[@erinkelly777]

Watched this video, got on FB marketplace and found a lot of quart sized wire bail jars... 43 with lids and 6 without. All in great condition, paid about $1.50 each. Now I just need to find some seals and some stuff to can in them. Where do you find good deals on food to can ? I figured cranberries would be on sale around this time but seems they're holding out for the winter holidays yet. Also you mentioned some canning groups you are a part of l, could you share where those are? Thank you!!

[@rudedogfarms256]

Facebook…rebel canning group is my favorite. I usually grow most of my own produce, but you can get pretty good deals at Aldi’s and sometimes farmer’s markets. I buy seals on ebay usually. Congrats on the jar find!

[@emilymentzer6290]

Can you use the tattler rubber seals on the glass lids?

[@rudedogfarms256]

No they don’t fit. Need the #10 size.

[@jessicapearson9479]

Oh, by the way. Amazon is still selling the one piece canning lids!

[@maxwebster7572]

Mercury oxide is used in the manufacture of polyethylene.

[@maryglidden2943]

forgot to ask about the starbucks/ pizza jars- do you tighten them as much as possible before placing in canner?

[@rudedogfarms256]

Not too tight before putting in. You tighten them down when they come out of the canner.

[@mariehayward5579]

I found rubber gaskets on lehman's

[@missreynolds3637]

Yep loved the alphabet gang term, and the fact you're a nurse with no fear of trying new to us, old things. Thanks for the informative video, and I have only one question on the other glass lids and rubber rings with no split, do you just carefully pry those up with say a butter knife or something to open?

[@rudedogfarms256]

We do use a butter knife to open them, normally once the seal is broken the lid comes right off. Just have be careful to not chip the glass lid or jar. That was a great question. Thank you.

[@paulfletcher323]

You can grab the tab of the rubber and pull on it with a pair of grips and it will make it just a little thinner and that will let the air in and break the vacuum Just be careful not to damage your glass jar with the grips

[@rudedogfarms256]

@@paulfletcher323 That works for me with Weck Jars, but the Ball #10’s don’t have the tab. 🤷‍♀️

[@hannelieh]

Hi, I have lots of small jars (one piece) with porcelain inserts. Can this be used to preserve jam or items that does not require water bath or pressure canning? I only saw this when I got home. Otherwise not sure what to use them for

[@rudedogfarms256]

If they’re the ones I’m thinking you mean the zinc lids with porcelain inserts and yes. Those can be used for anything. Don’t forget the rubber rings!

[@enascott5963]

Can the wire bales be found? I have a few glass lid jars that use the wire bales. They are badly rusted I don’t trust them.

[@rudedogfarms256]

I have seen some of those on eBay as well.

[@debbiemoray7959]

I can not get the lid off. I tried a can opener and a bottle opener. Do you have any ideas? Luckily I just used water in the jar to try.

[@rudedogfarms256]

If it’s a glass lid, I push a butter knife into the rubber just under the lid and push till you hear the hiss.

[@debbiemoray7959]

@@rudedogfarms256 I've tried that nothing budges, except for I cracked the glass lid now. I'm thinking of putting it back in some hot water. The lid is no good but the jar is, so want to save it.

[@OldSchoolPrepper]

@@debbiemoray7959 your instinct to go with hot water is correct....get a pot, put in some room temp water, put in the jar (it should also be room temp) make sure water covers (like if you are going to WB can it) bring it to the boil and let boil for a good 5 mins or so to soften the rubber...remove jar, use the knife method that Rude describes...sorry the lid broke that's a bummer.

[@debbiemoray7959]

That's what I did and it work. Thank you. I also oiled all the seals and did it again, and I was able to open it the second time.

[@angelahuebner9120]

I know this is an older video but can anyone suggest on how to clean the zinc cap lids with the glass liners? I have a few that are vintage but I need to know the best way to clean them TYIA

[@debbie845]

I used a toothbrush and barkeepers friend.

[@angelahuebner9120]

@@debbie845 Thank you so much. I appreciate the response!!

[@rudedogfarms256]

I handwash in soapy water and use a toothbrush if needed for the nooks and crannies.

[@LaydeeLia]

@ 25:10 - Jar boobies! Fantastic info!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!!

[@rudedogfarms256]

lol! Thank you for commenting!

[@rosemccartney3750]

my question would be how to open the glass lids without chipping them

[@rudedogfarms256]

I slide a butter knife under the rubber ring until it breaks the seal.

[@sapphirephoenix75]

you pull the rubber tab and it stretches and breaks the seal.

[@LaydeeLia]

@23:10 - It's from Aug 27 2021? And it's already gone bad?? It's only Oct 2022, and youtube shows this video as having been uploaded 8 months ago, which would have been Feb 2022, only 6 months after canning! Why would it have gone bad so fast??

[@rudedogfarms256]

That jar was an experiment. It takes the old #63 lids, and it’s REALLY hard to find a good lid in that size cuz they’re so old.

[@LaydeeLia]

@@rudedogfarms256 - Oh dear! If I ever see any #63 lids, I will keep you in mind! Edit: I just had a peek on eBay; there's lots of vintage ones there... the shipping fees makes it cost prohibitive to where I am (in Canada), but maybe more affordable going to wherever it is that you are?

[@kevinclements440]

Is there anyplace you know of that makes and sell new were bales? Bales are all rusty and weak. My mother left me a ton of those type of jars. My wife gave away all my regular type canning jars to a ex girlfriend of mine. The ex girlfriend has passed away and so did my jars.

[@rudedogfarms256]

You might try ebay for wire bales. Otherwise I’d check at flea markets.