Utah OUTLAWS added, Wasatch eliminated by Hockey Club

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The Utah Hockey Club has removed "Utah Wasatch" from consideration for a new team name, replacing it with "Utah Outlaws" in fan voting.
On Wednesday, the first-year NHL team announced it would no longer move forward with "Yeti" or "Yetis" as its official nickname due to what the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office called the "likelihood of confusion" for consumers to other companies and brands that use the name. Utah HC unsuccessfully tried to broker a "coexistence agreement" with Yeti Coolers LLC to use the name.
The team instead asked fans to vote on three different name options: Utah Hockey Club, Utah Mammoth and Utah Wasatch.
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While Mammoth made the final four in the initial fan vote last year, Wasatch was a new option that referenced a local mountain range and would allow the team to use a "mythical snow hill creature in the form of a Yeti" as its mascot, according to Mike Maughan of Smith Entertainment Group, who added that mascot will also be used if the team keeps Utah Hockey Club as its name
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[@mactheknife7049]

I think they should've made a deal with Joe Pesci to use his likeness from "My Cousin Vinny" and called the team the "Utah Youths."

[@nicko5945]

I don’t blame ya for not knowing Utah history, since most people don’t, but Utah has a ton of history with actual outlaws. Outlaws were a regular occurrence in the Utah territory in the “Wild West” days.

[@carlosd1573]

Utah Stormin' Mormons!!

[@mactheknife7049]

@@carlosd1573 Would their mascot be named "Gorman" or "Norman" in that case?

[@ajscm6748]

Yeti does not fit! Zero ties to Utah.

[@JayEmAy]

"Hockey Club" IS that bad. I'm embarrassed for hockey fans and specifically for the state of Utah and the people involved that's even being considered.

[@richardkim9952]

I mean, it is mimicing the naming conventions of soccer teams, so it's acceptable.

[@jessebakken7547]

I'm sadly not surprised considering the Washington... "Football Team" considered keeping THAT name when breaking down potential naming ideas. Creativity is dead. They saved themselves from being that dumb, but for at least considering keeping "Football Team", yeah, creativity is dead. So, for the Utah "Hockey Club" to consider that as a finalist for fans to pick is dangerously stupid, but nothing surprises me anymore.

[@TheOldTapeArchive]

The logo for [ Utah Hockey Club ] could be a legal document, say a nondescript sheet of paper with a lawyer's signature at the bottom. It could be yellowed with age to give it some character. The name must ALWAYS be in brackets...perhaps slightly tilted, with the font resembling that from a 1940's typewriter.

[@ultrametric9317]

Yes, it's even stupid in soccer, where there is a cutesy reason for hipsters to like it.

[@roywall8169]

wrong

[@Mr.BillyJoeMcAllister]

Hockey Club is so plain. The franchise and the city are telling NHL fans and consumers they lack imagination. Mammoth or Outlaws both have appeal and great marketing potential NHL fan bases can identify with.

[@bronxpinstripes4905]

Can we change the name of the Jazz to the Utah Basketball Team? That seems to be a greater need at the moment.

[@jimlittle5769]

As far as other teams using the name Outlaws. There isn't a team in the NBA, MLB, NFL, MLS or any 'major' top tier professional sport that use the name Outlaws. Some names that DO have multiple teams attached to them: Panthers, Cardinals, Giants, Jets, Kings, Rangers... The argument that Outlaws is a bad choice because other teams use the name Outlaws (whatever league those teams are part of) doesn't hold water....at all.

[@mrwhirly0358]

His point was that it feels too collegiate or minor league though, which I agree with. The so-called issue with law enforcement is silly though imo

[@ThunderDogY2K3]

Colorado also has an NLL team called the Mammoth, in the state pretty much next door. I think they might just stay with Hockey Club and the identity and the merchandise will use Yeti imagery from the logo to the mascot, then fans can call them the Yeti as the unofficial name.

[@jimlittle5769]

@@ThunderDogY2K3 Well, again, there are names that multiple teams have as I listed above, but second...are we really going to take into account a Lacrosse team name, no matter where that team is? Having said that, yeah, I can see them staying with Hockey Club. It's a very vanilla name for the most vanilla state. If they're already deep in the Yeti production of stuff, it's the best option.

[@ajscm6748]

@@jimlittle5769vanilla state, you must be a basement dweller. We have mountains, red rock, desert all 4 seasons. Utah is an amazing state.

[@jimlittle5769]

@ajscm6748 nice attack for no reason. No, not a basement dwelker. I'm a married with 4 kids cancer survivor and disabled vet who served on active duty for 23 years, including 4 tours to the Middle East. The state is beautiful, one of many reasons I moved here 10 years ago and will retire at, but it's also very white and very conservative in its policies...and the state is mostly run by religion, either directly or indirectly.

[@JimmyChompsTeal]

Utah Mammoth sounds cool. And you can get some really good logos and merch with that name. No (s) at the end of Mammoth either, just sounds like 💥 in your face! MAMMOTH. Utah Mammoth, baby. That’s what’s up.

[@goaliecoachmike]

Use Manny from Ice Age as the logo!

[@SkepticalRaptor]

I like Mammoths, since it has something to do with winter. Not my first choice, but it works. When I think of Utah, I would never think of “outlaws.”

[@SpringtimeAgain]

I know it has a long Wild West history, but I think when most people imagine outlaws from Utah they're thinking about polygamy and child brides.

[@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena]

​@SpringtimeAgain plus there's a professional lacrosse team called the Colorado Mammoth

[@auzmo]

@@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena except no one has ever heard of them because no one cares about “pro” lacrosse

[@gordongross6311]

Mormon mafia

[@mattpotter8725]

​@@SpringtimeAgainThe Utah Child Brides, not sure that's going to work, well maybe with some I guess.

[@jimlittle5769]

The only reason Wasatch was considered was to allow them to use a Yeti type logo.

[@bobaagard]

@@jimlittle5769 from people I know who got to vote at the game Wednesday, the Utah Hockey Club and Utah Wasatch logos were very similar, and definitely looked like they were designed around Yeti.

[@ajscm6748]

They were for sure identical, and it was the yeti branding.

[@WW3_Soon]

I guess Disney wouldn’t allow the team to be named Utah Wampa (the snow creature from the ice Planet Hoth in Star Wars).

[@Posterizashin]

The yeti is also called The abominable snowman they could probably just use the abominables as a name

[@letsgowalk]

Utah Wasatch is basically like Colorado Rockies.

[@CanadianAtleti]

Utah Outlaws? Utah Inlaws are more fitting.

[@VintageTealDog]

😂

[@kevinChristoffersen]

Since everyone HATES their inlaws, they'd be bitter rivals with everyone.

[@michaelshevlane9132]

Hockey Club is NOT A NAME. In football/soccer, the 'Football Club' or 'Association Football Club' is a generic marker that EVERY CLUB HAS. They all have actual real nicknames that fans use. It would be absolutely bizarre to take a generic marker as a name because European soccer is cool and you misunderstand what 'F.C.' and 'A.F.C.' represent or how common they are.

[@cameron4435]

Complains about Outlaws not being creative and then thinks the place holder name is the way to go. 😂

[@Baronvanhausen88]

Also most hockey fans I know think soccer is cringe

[@trenelson9212]

Facts

[@Gallalad1]

Yup plus most NHL teams do have it in their official name. For example the Montreal Canadians Hockey Club (Le Club de Hockey Canadien). It would just be foregoing a nickname

[@michaelshevlane9132]

@@Baronvanhausen88 I am sure the billions of fans of by far the most popular sport on earth will get over it!

[@scooley1515]

I'm going on Sunday. At this point I think the deciding factor will be what their logo/colors look like. I'm very sad Yeti is out.

[@borntoolate9081]

I would assume the colours are what you see on the ice now.

[@AlbertEmond]

I've always thought the "Salt Lake Sasquatch" would be sick

[@wilderac2250]

Why can’t they use an alternative name for yeti? Like Utah Sasquatch Or the Utah Big foot Or the Utah Wildmen

[@bamesbamesbames]

Utah Snowmen (They're abonimable!)

[@wilderac2250]

@ right

[@11fifteen]

Literally a team named Wild..

[@bronxpinstripes4905]

Utah Mormons (or, Fightin' Mormons). Utah Teetotalers? Otherwise, just leave it boring ol' Utah Hockey Club and use a couple of 18 year-old boys with ties riding bicycles as a logo.

[@wilderac2250]

@@bronxpinstripes4905 wouldn’t people think team was called the “Bikers” when the see that logo

[@georgeblangfordjr.1771]

I hope they pick the Utah Outlaws name. It has attitude with a wild west feel

[@roncarnes5724]

Nice alliteration too 👍🏻

[@uhohhotdog]

@@roncarnes5724it’s not alliteration at all…wtf are you talking about?

[@roncarnes5724]

@uhohhotdog my bad - it's actually assonance (tho you don't need to be an ass about it lol)

[@uhohhotdog]

@@roncarnes5724 I wasn’t I just asked a question

[@stevenking6129]

Sounds very dull. Minor league.

[@Victorico13]

This whole Utah hockey club branding fiasco and process seems to be harder than I thought would be. Also as a Seattle Kraken fan it makes me appreciate our team branding. Seattle nailed it and I couldn’t be any happier 🦑

[@jakoverslept3096]

Man they nailed the branding for Seattle. Now if the team could just get better.

[@adellelo956]

Kraken is the equivalent of Yeti. Silly

[@Victorico13]

@@jakoverslept3096 totally agree

[@RaulSmith]

They absolutely nailed the branding for the Kraken. It's good to see Seattle get good sports representation.

[@bobaagard]

Yeah, but Seattle had years to get the branding right. Utah has had months.

[@Lawomenshoops]

Oklahoma Outlaws and Arizona Outlaws were the second and third years of the USFL. Doug Williams played for both teams.

[@steveb.2326]

Outlaws fits Utah the best as there is a history of Old West outlaws throughout the states history

[@guyfaux3978]

Brigham Young, notably...

[@willp.8120]

Sounds more like a baseball, football, or soccer name.

[@nicko5945]

@@guyfaux3978don’t believe everything ya see in American primeval.

[@BadafukoProductions]

Tons of Mammoth fossils hav been found in Utah, meaning they roamed here during the ice age

[@devkun06]

Butch Cassidy and his gang in particular

[@DuckOfRubber]

I know it never caught on, but I liked Hive. It fits Utah, provides lots of good bee related logo options and a good color palate, and overall feels like a great name for a hockey team. Hearing a swarm of bees over the arena PA every time the team goes on the power play just seems right.

[@jimlittle5769]

I like Swarm, so the fans could be called The Hive.

[@mitchelmodine9197]

@@jimlittle5769call the building the Hive?

[@theragingdolphinsmaniac4696]

I have no idea why they didnt consider something to do with railroading. The Union Pacific was central to the development of the state and the transcontinental railroad was completed in Utah.

[@adanalyst6925]

Utah Steam maybe?

[@tk80mufa5]

​@@adanalyst6925 or plural : Utah Steamers ?

[@bobaagard]

@@theragingdolphinsmaniac4696 and, the original Union Pacific Salt Lake Depot is literally next door to the arena! It hasn’t been a train station in about 30 years, but it’s still there.

[@jamiebaron9715]

Because they seemed set on having a winter themed brand.

[@letsgowalk]

Utah Golden Spikes

[@tylerstanley5377]

Both Outlaws and Mammoth work, as both have ties to Utah. I have personally been a Mammoth supporter day 1, but I would be fine with Outlaws, though that is pretty generic. I think the color scheme works better with Mammoth. And I know there is a Lacrosse team with the Colorado Mammoth….but tbh I don’t think enough people care about NLL for that to cause an issue. Plus, there are plenty of teams across the major pro sports who share names (Jets, Giants, Cardinals), I can’t imagine it being a big deal for an NHL and NLL team to share a name.

[@CodeDonut]

it needs to be Mammoths with an s. mammoth is just weird. i don't think there's any other team out there with a singular noun mascot..

[@ulical]

Outlaws is bad for the same reason that Chicago Gangsters or New York Mafia are bad. What are we trying to do here? Glorify crime? As a SLC resident and UHC season ticket holder it's Mammoth or UHC.

[@WW3_Soon]

@@CodeDonutMinnesota Wild (not Wilds) and Laval Rocket (not Rockets).

[@WW3_Soon]

@@ulicalBad association names = Thrashers, Hit Men, Raiders, Buccaneers, Posse, Rebels, Marauders, etc.

[@highway2heaven91]

@@CodeDonutSeattle Kraken?

[@TheManny717]

If the _Outlaws_ are the winner of the moniker, then their goal song *_should_* be either _”Tonight is Gonna Be a Jailbreak”_ by Thin Lizzy or _”F-- the Police”_ by NWA. 😅

[@JF-vw9lv]

"Friends of the Police" by Neighborhood Watch Association?

[@hockeydude69]

It *should* be, yeah. But they'll go with some fake tough guy country tune instead.

[@tk80mufa5]

It's Utah man ... the Jazz are already "urban" enough 😂

[@hockeydude69]

The problem is they're crowdsourcing a name instead of choosing a direction. Bill Foley had a name in mind for the Vegas team from the beginning. These market research bros are asking thousands of people their opinions - then scrapping any idea a few people don't like.

[@bobaagard]

@@hockeydude69 Ryan Smith (the owner of the team) made his money building a company that helps other companies manage their customer experience. A big part of how they do that is through customer surveys. Smith didn’t do any public research when he changed the Jazz’s colors to black, yellow, and white, and he was blasted for it. The surveys were not about crowdsourcing names. At no point was there an open call for names. Instead, it was about making sure their choice wasn’t extremely unpopular. I’m sure if Yeti polled bad, it wouldn’t have survived.

[@mattpotter8725]

​@@bobaagardIt might not have been crowd sourced but it could have all been done in private using focus groups to dominate the unpopular options. I will think Yeti is dumb, sounds great but has absolutely nothing that makes me think of Utah. When the franchise relocated it would have just kept the coyote name imo, just as happened when the Jazz moved then you wouldn't have this problem. This is turning into a farce and it doesn't reflect well on the owners, in fact quite the opposite.

[@spooky.tattooer]

Bad example. "The Golden Knights" might be the worst expansion team name in the league. Lol

[@eriklakeland3857]

@@spooky.tattooerthat name was derided at first

[@bobbyjenkins7946]

Yeti company just being a bunch of jerks

[@NicholasWilliams-c4e]

Let’s boycott them

[@georgeblangfordjr.1771]

Imagine some person wearing a Utah Hockey Club Jersey with a cowboy hat and bandana face cover to represent the Outlaws name

[@mrwhirly0358]

Utah Hockey Club is so lame and uninspired, I really hope they don’t go with that. Also very frustrating a cooler company can block them from being called the Yeti. I feel like that has to do with preserving their SEO at least in part, not because there would be any confusion between brands or something similar. Yeti is still the best name but Mammoth is okay too, I suppose

[@yyouthcanoee]

its gonna be Mammoth. end of story. I do prefer Yeti but Mammoth is a good alternative

[@connercoughran4677]

Dude, imagine an Outlaws sweater with a fake holster patch on the side of it!

[@kryten09]

I can imagine how insufferable and obnoxious those fans will be.

[@CIronbeard]

​@kryten09 the ones voicing the Outlaws name already have been. They have in my opinion some of the worst aesthetic taste I have ever seen. So many Jason Voorhees in a cowboy hat logos shared in the Utah hockey club fan groups.

[@MIKEDOMO]

Utah Mammoths this will my vote.

[@shawnovastory]

what name do you pick it's a good fit for Alaska Anchorage NBA team? 1. Anchorage Aurora 2. Anchorage Huskies 3. Anchorage Wild 4. Anchorage Grizzlies 5. Anchorage Glacier 6. Anchorage Moose 7. Anchorage pioneers 8. Anchorage bison 9. Anchorage polar bear In hockey teams!

[@retflo2583]

Hockey Club has no imagination, inspiration, or originality. Mammoth looks best of the renderings

[@splashnskillz37]

Buy the Yeti cooler company and get the name, this getting annoying

[@Joseph-T543]

$3.16 billion price tag

[@DELife6535]

I still dont get why they didnt use Sasquatch or Bigfoot; they’re all synonymous with a Yeti 🤦‍♂️

[@tk80mufa5]

Was looking for this comment 😂

[@bobaagard]

@@DELife6535 plus, Sasquatch/Bigfoot actually “live” on this continent.

[@patfinch9907]

Or the Utah Abominables for the Yeti’s other name the Abominable Snowman.

[@ajscm6748]

@@patfinch9907 thats a fitting name too since we cant seem to win games 😂 I still love the team!

[@turbo1pt888]

Yes! Sasquatch or Bigfoot would fit perfectly and they could still use the Yeti imagery!

[@geoff3103]

Cmon Mammoth! Outlaws is so lame

[@NathanSpies]

I’m sticking with mammoths, it just seems more marketable

[@gadflyeducator]

I still like UHC. I think it works. It’s unique. It also allows locals to just colloquially call them the Yetis, and after some time of that, that will just become their name naturally.

[@sam382]

I've thought that too

[@guyfaux3978]

"Wasatch Sasquatch" woulda been REALLY original. Actually, I want them to be called the "Salt Lake City SLCers [pronounced "slickers"]"

[@mattpotter8725]

I like it, only problem is it isn't Salt Lake City only and you probably don't want to alienate all those fans not in SLC by changing the franchise isn't from Utah to SLC.

[@guyfaux3978]

@@mattpotter8725 So call them the Utah SLCers... ;-)

[@mattpotter8725]

@guyfaux3978 Doesn't quite have the same ring to it though.

[@bretivory7469]

🏒 Outlaws always #1 They play at the Saloon (the Delta Center). Utah has a rich Western film history as well had past outlaws. Old time piano player during intermissions. Fans in bandannas or cowboy hats? Most wanted instead of stars of the game

[@spencertherren6806]

The Utah "Soakers" please. Iykyk.

[@RCCarDude]

Beehive State, should be the bees

[@michaelwyatt665]

Hockey club is dumb and boring. The only one I think is decent is Mammoth. Too bad there wasn’t anything better.

[@larky368]

The logo could be a caveman on blades swinging a club.

[@UrbanPorcupine]

Thank you for being a voice of reason here lol. I'm not a fan of the Outlaws name either. Yetis was my preferred name, in some ways, Mammoth is better then Yeti because Mammoths actually lived here and it has the same vibe. Outlaws is too generic and not Utah's brand.

[@Tampafan33]

Butch Cassidy and his gang literally called Utah home

[@UrbanPorcupine]

@Tampafan33 I'm aware of this. Still not really our brand.

[@BoulderCityBlues]

Call them the Killer Bees .. their arena called the Hive .. Utah’s nickname is the Beehive state anyway

[@trenelson9212]

There already a baseball team called the Bees. Also that's a dumb name lol

[@BoulderCityBlues]

@ Not as Dumb as Hockey Club

[@camerong9147]

Im no Utah native but I always liked the Utah Outlaws name, it rolls off the tongue nicely and its a very unique identity to pull off.

[@ulical]

Sure does, just like Chicago Gangsters and New York Mafia....

[@stuartrogers5807]

Hockey Club would be the MOST boring choice. It has to be Mammoth.

[@JayEmAy]

You stick up for hockey club as a team name, and then you criticize the other two options as generic? Brodie, listen to yourself. You're embarrassing us all.

[@tadroid3858]

I'll never buy a Yeti anything.

[@paulmezzetta6905]

Brodie, TIME TO MOVE ON. Yeti is out.

[@ryan.andersen81]

Outlaws used to hide out in the Utah Canyonlands and ambush lawmen there...better than Mammoth to be fair.

[@psybain]

Brodie, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you say the patent and trademark office rejected the Utah Hockey Club trademark about a week ago?

[@dhyde2025]

The Wasatch name and its very "YETI" style logo were Ryan Smith's attempt to offload all the YETI merchandise they'd already secretly produced.

[@jimlittle5769]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rygi13]

I like that idea name it unique like wasatch but make the visual a yeti

[@ajscm6748]

When voting you got to read a brief description of each name and Wasatch was playing on the idea that there is a mythical creature like the yeti that exists in the Wasatch mountain. As a native I wasn’t a fan because thats not a thing here, they just made it up to use the yeti branding.

[@auzmo]

@@ajscm6748 my idea was for the name Wasquath

[@patfinch9907]

@@ajscm6748I don’t understand why they didn’t just be called the Utah Abominables? The Abominables is a reference to the Yeti’s other name the Abominable Snowman.

[@stokervu]

Wooly Mammoths 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Wooly Mammoths 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Wooly Mammoths 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@HungKongPhooey-n9y]

FIGHTING MASTODONS

[@adellelo956]

Always thought Utah Raptors would’ve been the best, especially considering the Utahraptors was an actual thing. Mammoth it will have to be.

[@kozmo925]

Outlaws is my vote! Mammoths is worst than Yetis. I liked Blizzard, Outlaws, and Taco Carts 😊

[@HungKongPhooey-n9y]

TACO CARTS IT IS OR TACO TRUCKS IN CALIFORNIA

[@jacksonconley5117]

I’m really disappointed that it won’t the Utah Yetis. I’m hoping Mammoths will be the team’s official name because I’m not open to it being called HC or Outlaws. HC is just a lamé name that feels more like a soccer team. While Outlaws is definitely better than HC, but feel like that name would be better for another city like Houston. Plus Outlaws does not really represent a winter climate I was hoping for Utah’s NHL team.

[@WafflesRBLX]

I dont think it matters so much that the name be unique to the place but rather something cool and marketable. If you take a look at the Sharks for example, sharks are an animal found on both sides of the country (and around the world for that matter) or if you take a look at the LA Kings, Kings is not particularly unique either in sports (Sacramento Kings).

[@tk80mufa5]

Yeah, Eagles, Falcons, Hawks, Kings, Lions, Sharks, Tigers, etc. ought to be the most generic teamnames 😂

[@spooky.tattooer]

The Sharks got their name because the Bay Area is in the Red Triangle, a region where Great White Sharks come to feed and is notorious for Great White attacks. Also why the Sharks' logo is triangular.

[@dansanfrisco]

Utah Five Wives

[@File_JExe]

I'm just wondering what was wrong with "Utah Hive" and "Utah Swarm"

[@Elvatrenni_413]

my 2c... all

[@dmarshall5148]

Even though I have no skin in the game and I personally think Yeti is a stupid name, I think the NHL needs to sue the cooler company. Copyright infringement goes both ways

[@MichaelHeilman]

I still think they should've gone with Bighorns, Bisons, or Mountaineers.

[@Mr.BillyJoeMcAllister]

Wow, all are very good choices!

[@UTYeti]

Utah Mammoth is by far the best. Utah Outlaws is so bad. Hockey is a winter sport in a state with the greatest snow on earth. Mammoth fits this perfectly. Nobody thinks of an Outlaw in snowy winter conditions. Just seems silly to even have that.

[@MagicalBread]

Still should’ve been Swarm

[@estellegrignon]

Utah Swarm was my pick, not gonna lie

[@jasonohara8372]

I always felt Mammoth was the best name. There's strength to it and it provides more options for branding. Outlaws sounds like a generic high school team.

[@fatmojohara]

Both Denver based pro lacrosse teams are called the Outlaws(outdoor, pll) and mammoth (indoor, nll) respectively.

[@Eragor-h5n]

My thoughts exactly, lol. It's basically picking between two Denver lacrosse team names-not that it would be much of an issue for those teams as two teams from different leagues can share a name (good examples being the two teams called the 'Cardinals', and the two teams called the 'Giants').

[@adellelo956]

Nobody cares about Denver nor Lacrosse. They’re welcomed to change their name if they wish 🤷‍♂️

[@Goingpostal1000]

Pro lacrosse 😂😂😂😂 what will the fan say!?!???

[@CLew9]

@@adellelo956 Also NLL have the Warriors, Thunderbirds, Seals, Roughnecks... Though I guess it is funny that both Utah names are from a state over

[@adellelo956]

@@CLew9 Utah is the better side of the Rockies so Utah teams take whatever names they want. CO teams can change their names. End of story.

[@triplebee3]

Here in SLC Mammoth(s) is pretty popular, even when Yeti was at the top of the list.

[@ScottGagon]

I could get behind either Outlaws or Mammoth as the team name. What about Wasatch as the name of the mascot? Sasquatch in an outlaw hat? Or a mammoth named Wasatch? Too bad Yeti couldn't work as a name.

[@noahlewis6776]

I could see that, I definitely think that a Sasquatch outlaw mascot would be fun, personally I think if outlaw wins we need to have the logo and mascot have a bandanna mask that is made to look like a goalie mask

[@ajscm6748]

@@noahlewis6776 if they don’t change the logo, the current logo is not that. 😒

[@erickgutierrez4917]

It should be Mammoth or Hockey Club. If it’s Hockey Club let’s use all the Yeti branding and logo just not the name.

[@CIronbeard]

That's the plan. The logo they are presenting with Hockey Club is the unused Yeti. Best looking logo by far

[@CIronbeard]

That being said Mammoth feels like the best choice overall

[@ajscm6748]

@@CIronbeard that logo is so bad I’m pretty sure an intern designed it.

[@donaldleider7382]

Utah Sasquatch?

[@Ramitupyourkilt]

They can just buy the cup company if they're legally not allowed to use a name of this allegedly mythical creature that we all used for decades before the cup company claimed the name they didn't invent.

[@drewsmith4452]

Quit harping on Yeti. Utah Hockey Club as a permanent name sucks. The answer is Mammoth(s). It’s Mammoth(s). There’s real relevance to the State with Mammoth(s), it fits the winter theme and colors, and outside of the Toronto Raptors in the NBA, there isn’t any other team that really uses an extinct animal as a mascot in the 4 major sports leagues, so it’s unique. You can say “Herd of Mammoths” or “Herd of Mammoth”. It works. It should be the name, and it has a lot of support here in Utah. (For the record, I’m not overly opposed to Outlaws, just REALLY like the Mammoth mascot. That’s all).

[@larky368]

Outlaws is perfect for lower tier leagues along with Bandits and Renegades and countless other similar terms. Too common.

[@KWally]

This branding is turning into an absolute disaster. Not sure how theyd be able to trademark Hockey Club after the trademark office denied Washington the Football Team trademark...

[@berge7f91]

Ditto

[@bobaagard]

@@KWally the Trademark office also declined Utah Hockey Club, for many of the same reasons they denied Washington Football Team. I’m frankly surprised to see it in the list.

[@tk80mufa5]

Oh, they did? Did they explain because these "names" are too generic?

[@bobaagard]

@tk80mufa5 that’s exactly what they said.

[@tk80mufa5]

@@bobaagard ok, thx! 👍

[@jeffpc22]

Outlaws may appear generic, but there are several famous outlaws with ties to Utah, which I think makes it make a little bit more sense. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid were both from Utah. There is also an early member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormon Church) who was named an outlaw, who has almost a mythical reputation- Porter Rockwell. I don’t believe he has much of a reputation outside of Utah, but these historical figures may make the name resonate more with the local population.

[@yardin9852]

I'll take Mammoth as long as it's pluralized. Utah Mammoths.

[@TheExaltedSeahawk]

Couldn’t agree more.

[@mactheknife7049]

"Outlaws" is a name that's so genericized that they'll be able to get it done.

[@AJStrong]

If they go with Mammoth and don't name the mascot "Woolly" or "Willie", what are we even doing here? Printing merch money. But if they go with any other name for the team, I think they should name the mascot "Yeti" ;)

[@dannyrod1980]

The Las Vegas Outlaws were one of the eight original teams in the XFL

[@TheHotwheels1111]

The instinct argument doesn’t make sense. Toronto has the Raptor’s and they have been doing ok for 20 something years.

[@TheHotwheels1111]

*extinct.

[@fantasyEXX]

30 now

[@30ShotKid]

YETI

[@File_JExe]

"Mammoth and Outlaws are unoriginal and boring names" Later: "Hockey Club is the best option"

[@danilobonnet4900]

Storming mormons

[@BreakTime10101]

The Yeti company is stupid not to allow it, imagine the advertising they would get.

[@jjwalden93]

I don’t know a soul who buys Yeti products. It’s expensive junk.

[@larky368]

So if some damn company calls itself Cobra are you trying to tell me that they own the rights to a common name of an animal? Or if they chose Hydra then no one else can use this ancient mythological name?

[@NicholasWilliams-c4e]

I say we boycott them

[@edalder2000]

Yeti being out disappoints me. I am a wrestling fan and WCW had an infamous character about 30 years ago. An Egyptian mummy, trapped in a plastic 'block of ice', from the Himalayans, called The YETI. Announcer Tony Schiavone said it was "The Yet-tay." I don't know. It's wrestling.

[@Colt-md2rb]

Outlaws is my favorite. I grew up in Utah shooting guns and riding dirt bikes so I feel like it fits the culture of most of rural utah and love the tie in to the state’s history. (Outlaw trail, robbers roost, Buch Cassidy, Porter Rockwell, etc…). Mammoth is my second favorite

[@Flashfm3000]

Generic names like "Utah Hockey Club" can't be trademarked. So anyone would be legally allowed to create and sell team merch. I doubt the owners would like that!

[@misfit0r]

LETS GO OUTLAWS! Every other season ticket holder I know will be casting their votes for Outlaws HARD next couple of games 🎉🎉

[@KWally]

Y'all getting hoodwinked by Ryan Smith. Promised a new arena, now he just wants to renovate. Classic bait and switch. This franchise is cursed.

[@matthewkester3677]

i vote for the Outlaws

[@HFD96SD99]

Outlaws is far better than any of the other names. Clearly Brodie you don’t want it. But better than Mammoth or the far more boring name “Hockey Club”. There is a lax team in CO named Mammoth. Elmira had a hockey team in the FPHL last year. Don’t need to be original. Just what feels appropriate for hockey.

[@sbespn3820]

The Wasatch Sasquatch

[@highway2heaven91]

Keeping it Utah Coyotes would have worked imo.

[@ThunderDogY2K3]

I like Outlaws, but i think theres one or two that never got looked at was Pioneers or Explorers either of those sounds good. Mammoth is good to but i think of the Colorado Mammoth of the NLL, Hockey Club could work but it would only be successful if the logo looks good. That's what this really comes down to what is marketably and does the logo look good on merchandise that people would buy, if they kept Hockey Club let the fans call them Yeti as unofficial nickname.

[@shavenutz]

They can still work out a deal with the Yeti corporation, just like Seattle did with Kraken Rum. I don't get why Yeti wouldn't do it, would be a win win for both. Maybe that's going on behind the scene.

[@fantasyEXX]

According to the reports they tried to but Yeti is absolutely refusing everything

[@shavenutz]

@@fantasyEXX I recently bought 3 YETI coolers/ Bottles, makes me want to take them back... and I'm a Kraken fan. Yeti was by far the best name for the team

[@benwahl3989]

Utah Yowie or Utah Yowl. Can still use a bigfoot as a mascot.

[@robynryan7473]

Not from/in Utah, but I really favor mammoth. I just like teams that use prehistoric mammal/ lizard names, (raptors, predators etc)

[@broshrddg]

No, definitely not Utah Hockey Club.

[@JaredLand]

Utah Ice works just like Jazz plus it goes with Ice "Hockey" obviously

[@goaliecoachmike]

In the 90’s- The Central Wyoming Outlaws were a Tier II Junior A team back in the old American Frontier Hockey League which became the America West League. Before that league merged into the North American Hockey League.

[@jesusfirst3426]

Utah Yeti would have been perfect…

[@RobynHood1021]

Yeti

[@Phil00484]

Utah Skis

[@Norm_SK]

Brodie, great work! Although living in the middle of Canada, I watch all your content keep up the great work. Watching your video and looking at that jersey of the Outlaws , had me thinking the Utah Barons or the Banditos, Wasatch is certainly a bullet that’s been dodged 😂

[@renepaniagua4882]

Not a NHL person but I’m a Utahn resident and I think outlaws sounds cool because of the historical significance of the west. I prefer wasatch or mammoth over Utah Hockey Club.

[@kevinChristoffersen]

Outlaws, clearly, does not work in that market.

[@jacksonconley5117]

Yes I agree, it would work far better in a city like Houston, Phoenix, San Antonio, or Albuquerque. That’s why I’m hoping Mammoth wins.🦣❄️🏒