uThermal Plays Age of Mythology For The First Time

[@hahahasan]

I think a game like this fits your crazy tactical mind really well. Would be keen to see more of it

[@stefanfrank7426]

The game costs $30 so I dont see it viable for him to buy the game multiple times on alt accounts to pull of troll builds vs low mmr players, maybe he can insta leave games on his main account however

[@lekhakaananta5864]

@@stefanfrank7426 $30 is nothing for a content creator with 134k subs... that's just the cost of doing business. He might pay more than that for people to edit videos and do tech support stuff. $30 for each challenge which could be like 5-10 videos, is very, very cheap operating costs for content creation.

[@Mecht]

This is the game that got me into rts way before starcraft 2 came and got me back, so I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it. I would love to see more aom content, there's a lot of potential for shenanigans

[@oponomo]

Retold is what any RTS wishes they were. Fun, competitive, casual, interesting, pleasing, diverse, balanced.

[@evanwoodham6296]

Dumbed down, shallow, treats its players like morons and children

[@tavish1658]

And comes with a good campaign.

[@darkswordx5048]

Starcraft II is wonderfull like u said!

[@royasturias1784]

​@@darkswordx5048Don't you ruin the mood with APM crud and the very disappointing final bad guy of the game, son.

[@evanwoodham6296]

@@oponomo It tries to pander so hard there's nothing left

[@inaki4747]

If watching you play starcraft 2 was entretaining even though I do not play the game, watching you play AOM which is my favorite RTS has been a treat for me. I have watched other AOM content creators since I started playing retold but when it comes to entertainment and commentary while playing RTS games I find your videos the best and by far. Please Uthermal keep playing some more AOM Retold. I think it suits your chaotic, ingenious style, and I am very interested in knowing what strategies you will develop next.

[@Michael-Mepoke]

I love your sc2 content. This was the most fun I have seen you have in a while. I will watch more AOM videos in the future!

[@gesus6613]

One tip when placing farms, select farm, hold shift and spam click a Town Center or Granary and it automatically place them

[@roninfrog2065]

My favorite RTS youtuber playing my favorite RTS game? Love it! I did notice a couple things that would probably help you do a lot better. 1. Are you doing your economic upgrades at storehouse/granary? I might have missed it because you play really fast but they're super important upgrades. 2. Trying to get to the third age can be super important as it unlocks counter units and more armory/eco upgrades. I usually play Oranos (in the original AoM) so it's definitely different from Greek but those are two things that are very important across all civilizations unless you are going for some kind of specific rush or wierd strategy. Hope to see more AoM!

[@NeoXist]

Unfortunately the hotkeys seem unreasonable because they made the entire UI grid like Q W E R T buttons on top and then A S D F G for the buttons below etc. etc. so you end up with weird hotkeys on patrol, attack move and such because they're all the way on the bottom. Fortunately it's very easy to fix (I also rebound attack move to A). I just wish people would give it more time instead of giving up after not being able to figure out the hotkeys/setup, Grubby also gave up on AoM:R VERY quickly because of it and it makes me a bit sad because this game is an absolute goldmine in terms of gameplay. I'm glad you gave it another chance, you seem to have a blast with it. There's also modding if you're still not happy with certain parts of the UI, like you can place the resource bar somewhere else if you want to. Dont forget devs in this game listen well so you can always give some feedback on the forums if you think it would help the game/players. At 8:30, you couldve garrisoned the villagers inside the sentry tower, just saying :) Awesome to see you play this game, I hope you decide to keep playing but if you think it's not for you then that's fair game too :)

[@NastyNate888]

It's a shame the default hotkeys are so bad, like that is a really easy thing to get right if you are an RTS veteran, I'm surprised none of the devs realized that would be an issue and didn't fix it before the launch.

[@ushift]

It's the same on a lot aoe style games. I've been playing 0 ad an open source version and it's so hard to play with the default hotkeys.

[@tavish1658]

The entire reason for messy hotkeys is because they decided to retain the legacy villager building grid. Having no button to open build menus means that a giant chunk of otherwise eligible hotkeys get taken up by buildings. I am not sure if they added it yet, but I think the game needs an option to add a build button for villagers (and norse infantry), so their combat hotkeys can be freed up.

[@n0hidea739]

As someone with a lot of knowledge of AoM but no skills, is really fun to see someone with insane skills but little to no knowledge, your path to greatness in this game gonna be nice to watch

[@danielfreerichs4774]

@uThermal did you know you can right click on the ability of your myth units to turn off autocast? Seems like an important thing for a pro like you :) I'm kinda glad I don't have to click every button in a big fight, but a man of your experience and speed will appreciate the added flexibility. Also, maybe i missed it, but you can upgrade your resource gather rate in the depots. eg. 10% faster wood collection and vilagers hold +5 more wood so they don't have to run so much. But I'm not going to say anything else. Have fun discovering the wild world of AoM :D

[@houtamelocoding]

As a long-time Uthermal-fan and Age of Mythology fan, I'm so glad to see that you liked the game, watching you learn it is being pretty entertaining, hope to see more :)

[@aeonstar293]

Love this series. Good to see you enjoying it!

[@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman]

Honestly just very impressed how well you manage to read the game without having any previous knowledge, all while still playing the game.

[@lg6707]

It's really cool you're trying out all these things. New skill unlocked "release muscle memory".

[@ronratliff8320]

Dude super happy to see more content you exploring the genre.

[@H4NGM4NDVD]

6:59 Hey Marc, AOE 3 and AOM both have a snare mechanic albeit alot more toned down in AOM. if a unit is hit by a melee unit it will have its movespeed reduced. there is also something called a pull trick where you drag box a bunch of units together and the units that are fewer and further away will run faster to catch up to the group, this can be used to pull units out of a snare.

[@pwnguinmage3562]

Was fun seeing you play Age of Mythology.

[@aldielegarcia6863]

It would be cool to see you playing more of this game every once in a while, also AoM siege doesn't delete units like AoE! no need to be too scared of them

[@Buttersman]

It's a good old game. ❤ I like all the upgrades coming from the Retold version, and I'm glad they kept auto queue for the villagers. With four resources and wide variety of unit costs its already a lot of villager management and Macro, as you mentioned.

[@houtamelocoding]

Imo most things that make macroing less time-consuming are good, the coolest part about the game is watching the fights and using god powers, so the less energy we have to spend macroing the more energy we have to enjoy the fights :)

[@meepo1862]

@@houtamelocoding go play auto battler like clash royale, what you're describing is not rts

[@houtamelocoding]

@@meepo1862 Deciding build orders, army composition, making strategic decisions in real time, is that not RTS? Or is it only RTS if you have to manually press two buttons every 15 seconds? (buttons: select town-center -> build worker)

[@jorgereyes3110]

I wish they made auto queen larva injection in SC2. That would solve the main reason why I don't play zerg

[@Elfis99]

This game has so many good things about it. Supposedly the devs play this game; how competently, we don't know. But it's possible they will improve the interface; if they would just add an option to make your units not slow down or walk backwards in order to walk next to their buddies, it would help a lot.

[@tavish1658]

It would be cool with a free formation button. They could even have it only work for a couple of seconds, so you don't have to remember to put your armies back in formation manually. I think such an addition would add a lot when you retreat, as going free formation, would make your army ignore any allies when they move. That way they would no longer move back and no longer slow down.

[@MattWinkler1]

My second favorite RTS of all time! AoM is a more casual palate cleanser for me, would love to see what wacky build orders and cheeses you can invent

[@SeriviusR]

I feel like this game could be an awesome opportunity for you to play with crazy 1 or 2 unit builds like your starcraft vids. Would be so fun to see games like Mythic only etc.

[@Shanpeign]

Looking forward to marc playing the norse and using ragnarok to all in with villagers

[@vladimirmijatovic4171]

This was a surprise coming from Mark ^_^ I used to play some AOM back in the days and I also remember pathing being wonky.

[@casnigenew92]

I remember playing this game 20 years ago. It was ahead of its time when it first came out.

[@vinconssier4224]

It’s fucking awesome. It was worth the wait. I’m hooked again

[@bruvkek4629]

it's more next gen than stormgate

[@TravisHowrish-v2c]

Stormgate is such an unbelievably ugly game. The cartoony Fortnite characters with weird proportions and stiff hair and bulging eyes. I have never uninstalled something so fast.

[@Danymok]

I agree, but you're saying this as if it's surprising. Stormgate was made by a small indie studio while AoM was made by Microsoft

[@bruvkek4629]

@@DanymokIm pretty sure stormgate developmnent costed more. Microsoft is not crazy to burn 35+ million for rts remake.

[@StewartMillarTheManCave]

@@TravisHowrish-v2cI feel this is an unfair comparison as, art style tastes aside but Fortnite actually looks pretty damn good, has a consistent whacky tone, is very readable, is pretty damn well optimised etc etc

[@nathanpetrich7309]

​@@StewartMillarTheManCave This. Honestly, if the next top notch RTS was a Pokemon spin off, I'd still tune in if the strategy was good enough.

[@Audon4150]

Pro tip you may have learn since this game: Food sources have different gathering rates. Hunting is the best with 1.0 /sec Herding: second best with 0.9 /sec Bay bushes next with 0.8 /sec Farm last with 0.7 /sec That's why you make farms when you cannot gather food any other way :))

[@Rooki3_]

Use your heroes to take out the walking woods. Also When villagers go into the TC the TC attack increases. Get to tier three and build a fortress quickly near resources. Use more villagers to build quickly. Also let your pigs and sheep get bigger. Scout for bulls, giraffes, and zebras near your TC, go after those first.

[@danielsommerlykke9475]

I was top 3 in AoM back in the day, let me know if you really want to learn it seriously. A few tips: If you only pick one unit type (double-click or hotkey), it is removed from the formation and will move with full speed. Try to upgrade your towers and protect them by surrounding them with houses and stables. Your biggest mistake in general is too few villagers and no econ upgrades, these are researched from their respective resource buildings for most civilizations. Avoid buildings farms in classical age with greek if possible - instead use granaries slightly outside your town center to hunt giraffes/rhino's etc. with the hunting dogs upgrade. Greek need more villagers on gold: From Classical age use 2 gold mines at a time and fewer on wood, unless you are producing archers, which function well with Hippokon against infantry-based armies. You should harrass with 2 control groups of cavalry/centaurs, and use your cavalry to surround smaller groups of units. Individual units upgrades are very important, but don't forget about armory upgrades. Counter system is Heroes>MU's>Normal units, cavalry>archers>infantry>cavalry. Cavalry>siege weapons>buildings/archers. A large group of slightly upgraded Hippokon cavalry can relatively quickly take down a town center. All factions can hide villagers in towers, castles and town centers. They can even hide in some types of siege weapons.

[@CBLustig]

Staring at the idle workers banner at the top all game is pain! But it goes to show how hard the resources are to manage since things mine out so quickly and you have to shift click or reassign the villagers

[@bellofigoitaliano5038]

SCV READY SIR !!! “Noo Noo brother that’s about 5000 years from now take daaaaa shovel”

[@bruvkek4629]

yeah i had camera bug too. Just unbound it from right click cause it wasn't of any use and made game unplayable sometimes.

[@Fleurise003]

That last game was a stark reminder of my AoE4 losses! I used to play aggro builds and those eco build players would just shrug it off. From my limited AoE4 experience if you go aggro you need to end the game, you can't transition as well as in SC2, unless you plan for it from the start. Aggro builds need to go for the kill by Age 2 as harass loses value over time. Villagers are on constant production in AoE4 (unlike set worker counts like SC2) until you reach 100+ workers, and just keep producing a low pop military and remax as fast as possible. So losing your entire tree line to harass is fine because you have 2 more on the map and 10k wood already.

[@nikeulah7898]

It's really funny to ser toi playing sc2 on aom, and with some knowledge about units, and civ, i can't wait for more content

[@H4ppsy]

14:00 confirmation that you need to play scandinavian civilisation. Ragnarock is maid for you my friend :D Best game ever !

[@H4ppsy]

28:30 dont ever again kill 10 horse because you make a group with 20 horse and 1 walker unit... plz my heart bleeding

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

I've been jonesing for some AoM content! Would love to see you learn this game

[@Pyromaniac77777]

I absolutely love it. People say the campaign is legendary, and by that they mean it has what games today lack: character. AoM has genuine whimsy and doesn't take itself too seriously, while still having everything it takes to be a great RTS.

[@rayraysax9764]

Next video: “Beating 20 Year AoM Pros With Stupid Stuff”

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for sharing the fun! ^^

[@Sukitdonny]

Ring town bell is super helpful for saving workers

[@juanfisi]

I hope to see you play more of it!

[@Ryuouken]

Keep in mind the "idle villagers" banner in the top right. You had idle workers all game long :C

[@yowofu8450]

The original age of mythology is one of the first games i ever played and i stll have the original box somwhere it came with 2 cds to install.

[@FloridaManYT]

I like this game way more then SC2

[@dalcowboiz]

If you learn the game you will be a beast, you fought so long in that second game despite him having the upper hand in macro/tech

[@FloridaManYT]

Last guy was hades and those statue are a god power

[@bmalotaux]

I don't think it's feasible to delay your age 3 for this long Marc. You kinda need a fortress to protect your golds

[@orfeo-7_]

The panning stick can happen if you accidentally press the mouse wheel. At least it use to do that in the original.

[@Rtsvoodoo]

Please keep playing AOM retold! Great content

[@Travinobabino]

I love to see you playing AOM!

[@Lucasfly]

I LOVE AOM. Even if you don't will watch you play it but plz like it.

[@jorgereyes3110]

Not scouting the gold mine of 37:22 earlier was the real losing factor, bad luck I guess 😂

[@h0h0j0e5]

I'd love to see you play Egypt they are really good heavy but I'd love to see what you would do with free houses and gathering depots

[@tamedelement]

we should see more of this

[@Sebastian-xy2up]

Interesting idea to have "level of harassment" as kind of ressource in an RTS game. Even though, that would not be my piece of cake, since i rather take my time till i attack

[@СергейПастухов-э2м]

Daymn you can just burn all the wood for the opponent

[@IronMan-wz8dx]

If you put a fake top hair, you can play as "The Viper" who is your double ganger of aoe2.

[@islamkichah1068]

the camera dragging mode should be on when u hold Right click i believe

[@vl3005]

What is it with 'pro gamers' evaluating games by their multiplayer?? AoM has one of the coolest story arcs in the history of RTS games, slightly outmatched by SC2 because... Well, it's a newer game. Literally the overwhelming majority of gamers are in it cause it's fun to be told a story while interacting with it. We're the millions to your thousands. I GENUINELY never thought I'd hear someone say "AoM is meh", or "AoM is crap".

[@desperado3236]

It's cuz it's what they play and know best. But yeh, most (including me) judge games on SP fun, with MP being an extra. It's how games should be made cuz I don't know a single good rts that was created with only competitive MP in mind.

[@NatoBoram]

Shortcuts aren't the best because of the A move, but you should really try the campaign! It's lots of fun and can teach you about all units and factions

[@dcamposliz]

@uThermal - are there SC2 F1/F2 equivalents for AOM?

[@danielfreerichs4774]

The only thing i know that comes close is the select all idle army when shift-clicking the idle army banner on the top right. Same with idle workers.

[@bmalotaux]

There is a select idle workers hotkey and a couple of select army hotkeys like select all land army. Since most of my army usually is land army I use f2 for that and just put my ships on a hotkey

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

they couldn't just put the attack move command on the grid space that coincides with A huh?

[@JeePsSsS]

Any thoughts on AOE 2 vs AOM vs AOE4 ?

[@WPMarshall]

My biggest issue is pathfinding. I'll have siege units next to a TC not attacking it and instead wanting to walk around it. But other than that, I'm having a great time.

[@sfire21xm]

That was so fun to watch

[@XfStef]

You against theViper would be the most amazing matchup!

[@dekalindershaikan3185]

Can't wait for the TC rush to GM :)

[@roninfrog2065]

Oranos TC rush opener + murmillo spam all day

[@machineelf9459]

Yessssss. The love this game!!!!

[@adunnathvixis5409]

Did Marc mean Spectre, Dawnbreaker or Nature's Prophet with the Dota 2 hero?

[@gabrielmiranda8170]

more age of mythology please

[@giancarlocorlazzoli5527]

Type: WUV WOO. It would spawn a Hippo with wings and had a Heart attack with insane HP and Atk! Prob wouldn’t work for 1v1’s but still insane! 😅

[@doloswava7193]

a bird set your trees on fire

[@JoeMendez579]

I hate age of empires and mitology but you make it seems fun. Love your videos XD

[@Nursenmo88]

I always wanted to get into age of wonders, but havent had tkme for it

[@grottoguru6473]

You had me at, "crack".

[@matejdedic9856]

Have you heard of BfME 2 Age of The Ring mod?

[@Igor369]

How the hell did he win the 1st game? Did enemy go afk or what.

[@balazsfenyes3880]

If you play atlanteans they are like playing protoss. every unit can be made a hero so they become good against myth units too. If you have the money you can make your entire army heroes which are good against everything, especially fanatics who are good against infantry and cavalry and as hero they are good against myth too Athlanteans are a little bit of zerg too with their oracle(unit) placement like spreading creep.

[@n0hidea739]

Do anyone knows how can he be using the resources mod to have them on bottom right and play an multiplayer game, cuz for me its say i need to turn the mod off

[@YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt]

I came here to see all the overwhelming comments saying "YES"

Yeah, wc3 and sc2 killed AOE/AOM games for me, for same reasons that you pointed in the video. I keep trying to get used to AOM since they released retold but I am still finding myself playing SC2, it's just better.

[@MAZakir2]

uThermal VS GiantGrantGames AoM when? 😂

[@jwdory]

GG

[@rattusgrenadus8291]

Agr of mythology feels like a bit of moba in an rts

[@TheOriginalElkstone]

1 month since the last good video... is this the end

[@rumination2399]

never played this but it reminds me of Rise of Nations more than Age of Empires. Same difference I guess

[@PseudoAccurate]

Huh... I'm kind of against automatically making villagers... the original AOM didn't have it afaik. Glad you're trying your hand at this game - I've been playing this since it came out. The tweaks they made to it are awesome - I always thought the God powers should reset and now they do! Definitely makes the tactics and strategies more interesting.

[@skya6863]

the original did not but the titans expansions did have it which released in 2003, so it has been in the game for a very long time

[@houtamelocoding]

Imo the less time/energy we have to spend on macroing the better, the coolest part about the game is the fights and god-powers, macroing just takes it away from that. Auto-queuing is just like hotkeys, it's there to save you clicks so you can focus on more important stuff.

[@dardmachansonfrancaise8493]

ahh seeing theses sheeps take before hunt and witout the sheep upgrade. Mystake been mades but im sure uTHER can be better than me in less than 50 hours.

[@Bubble_Berry]

Prostagma?

[@lovejaydee]

I want to see more

[@ELHAUKEZ]

no pro that swaps to the game gets that heros do high bonus dmg against myth units

[@todorsamardzhiev144]

39:08 not a great idea 🤣

[@spacepaprika4151]

Prostagma

[@itswakkowarner]

Better than WC3: Reforged ;)

[@Handle35667]

Sounds like for your opinion to changed you needed to get good. SC2 strategy compared to AOM like checkers compares to chess. A(n immature) checkers player may get frustrated trying chess for the first time.

[@uThermal]

Alright grandpa lets get you back to bed

[@Reepecheep]

More BEYOND ALL REASON pls!

[@blandragny9152]

More AOM pls...

[@TM21111]

Aoe ❤

[@TM21111]

First :)