Protoss Gets Salty Against Crazy Planetary Fortress Rush (#4)

Is that.. DOUBLE SALT?
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[@DOOMPotatoable]

attipic cheese might be atypical (rare) cheese

[@francoismoco2]

Yes, he speaks french almost for sure. "Atypique" means atypical. It was a compliment

[@TihomirBozic69]

Agree, in Croatian language we say atipični = atypical

[@ErenisRanitos]

@@TihomirBozic69

[@AXharoth]

yeah , dud is probably french , in french they say atypique

[@OSYofRR]

"Cheese diff":P

[@EricLancheres]

One small request, please use mules to repair the planetary in desperate situations and/or load more than 1 SCVs when you lift it into the bases. I want to see a planetary survive for once!

[@Rakstawr]

hmm I'm of the other mindset. I really like the mind games that happen when people overreact to the craziness of proxy cc -> planetary; sometimes you just have to let it die to make the right move like the first game here.

[@eelcohoogendoorn8044]

+1 from me for putting SCVs in the CC. Has to be the most underutilized terran ability ever.

[@jaeyang9540]

I agree, not only to repair cc but to make a quick repair station while mining out a base near the opponent, also creates a situation where opponents have to attack the proxy before going to main. I think if he does it right then he can deliver BC to front quickly without teleporting out and returning it back to the front really fast. I think he needs to adjust his timing for Building PF loading his scvs and bringing enough marines. I think if he would have delayed his Cc delivery to time it with his tanks and marines, it would have been better coordinating that proxy.

[@jaeyang9540]

Next time someone says you wasted his time, you should say, yeah I agree. You should have quit when game started after your cheese failed. Lol

[@Maroboyzx11]

Also if he would planetary rush and build factory on site and tank rush!!!!

[@jonathanbates8326]

I think your last opponent meant it was atypical meaning not what he's used to see. Didn't seem like an insult.

[@AXharoth]

def not insult ^^

[@peterfarell7696]

Saw that as a compliment.

[@razor1836]

attipic: probably wanted to say atypical "uncommon cheese", what we all like to see here :D

[@grim3897]

yep, precisely that. Maybe the guy was not english native speaker and fudged the word a bit. Good sport nonetheless

[@reddragon7762]

An uncommon cheese is a nice cheese to play against.

[@leykias]

It's a uThermal CHRISTMAS SALT SPECIAL!!!

[@DrMJJr]

IKR?!? 🎉🎄🎄

[@AR-br7cl]

Lolololol "yea I'm proud" I love uTherrmal. uThermal and Lowko are my fav SC casters. They voice/accent makes me want to visit the Netherlands. Seem like some wonderful fun and cool people

[@davef5916]

meanwhile, uthermal doing better commentary than most pro commentators, while it's happening and also playing.

[@WhitePointerGaming]

I love it when opponents say stuff like you're "wasting their time", like they have some preconceived idea of how the game should be played and if they get cheesed or otherwise have that idea interrupted that it's "wasting time", lol.

[@herdimmunity2507]

idk im guessing he knew it was a GM messing with him, right? Isn't there a ladder for a reason?

[@branboom6409]

Definitely not going to learn with that attitude.

[@deidyomega]

@@herdimmunity2507 Yeah I think he was refering to being smurfed..

[@Mooisrawr]

"Lt. Dan, who we are playing against. Sounds terrifying, probably going to be a tough one" lol this is why I watch this stream!

[@gagejacques5147]

Laughed out loud, he really doesn’t watch movies

[@chingompiew1]

I got itchy for a uThermal video so I went straight to his channel to discover a 29minute new Planetary Ep! What a treat!

[@josephstoddard7956]

For your speed run series as random, you can look down at the hint and half the time it will be specific to one race. This tells you which race you will be before you load into the game. I play as random and check that every time. Love your content and merry Christmas!

[@AV-wn7xz]

Happy for you, you got too the goal you were trying to achieve. 70k-75k sub by the end of the year, and it isn't even over yet!

[@austin6982]

I love all of your challenge videos! I hadn’t played SC2 for 10 years, but I started learning again after finding your channel. I can’t wait to see you hit 100k subs!

[@tenj00]

Is it a coincidence that cheese making is impossible without salt? I think not.🧀🧀🧂🧂

[@Gibsoncheg]

CC - 400 minerals Fortress - 150 minerals/150 gas Protoss' burning ass - priceless

[@bronzecomeshome9517]

Loved the mine drop counterattack at 14:51. GG

[@mattetjus]

Thanks for the Christmas gifts, Thermy! And, the salt cannon is far less successful at salt mining than I was guessing (hoping 8-) )

[@justinh4005]

Merry Christmas to you Uthernal. Thank you for such amazing content and bringing amazing and fun content through the years. May 2023 be amazing for you and family!

[@reinhardt6217]

I’ve been watching you about five months now and PF has been my favorite by far, so funny

[@AIRDRAC]

I think a cool unit composition to help protect the PF could be a light penguin-brothers style (vikings first, and then marauders after) - as that we effectively stop any banshee from being able to do damage, while allowing you to position them safely on the other side of the planetary before landing them. Plus if you bring enough SCV's you can repair the vikings as well as the PF. Not sure if it would hit too late, or be too gas-heavy, though.

[@Adam9172]

Either Atypical cheese or he switched word halfway to go to epic cheese. An Atypical, Epic cheese. Attpic.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Arepas are Venezuela’s banelings on Mexican tortillas zerglings - a circular corn-based baked paste, but smaller, thicker, and more moist. They can be served plain, as a side dish, or with a filling (cheese is popular), as a main meal. I still prefer tortillas but not by much.

[@KumarBendrake]

I don't know what works at your level but in the lower leauges we pop out with a few SCV's (I use 4) and build a missile turret to contend with early air units. Also, I've used early armor upgrades and try to do a timing where upgrades kick in at the same moment I land. I am really really loving these episodes because I have never seen anyone try to use a planetary rush as a high level build, but we would all really like to see you keep the planetary fortress alive.

[@shufflecat3334]

I would love to see it added to the challenge that you have to steal resources from them. More specifically, they have to see the mining AND the delivery happen. This basically means you are allowed to mine with your scout, hold onto the minerals and then deliver them when your planetary lands. Or you can mine and deliver in view of their natural like you did this game. Just so long as both events happen within your opponent's view then the challenge is complete.

[@dalas.on.wheels]

Haven't been watching Starcraft for years, but these videos are so damn entertaining. Really well made uThermal, you got my sub! :D

[@genehenson8851]

I don’t even play SC2, but I really like your videos. Love energy and enjoyment you have. Keep up the good work and happy holidays.

[@Szokynyovics]

"wasting your time and my time" 70k people enjoying the show: "Nahhhh..." :D

[@TheFoxNes]

That protoss salt earned you my twitch sub, unfortunately working the hours you stream so will miss them all! Keep up the amazing content!

[@kota7333]

This series is a masterpiece, always a pleasure to watch your Terran. Much love Therm-Man

[@Lobopack23]

7:09 ... this guy talks just as quickly as his micro game lol...cool guy :D I really enjoy watching your videos :)

[@Maroboyzx11]

The sickest scv pull that has ever been done lmfao!!🎉

[@matthewnichols310]

I would love to check out a stream, however I wouldn't be able to due to the time constraints. Would a second channel with VODs be credible? Or maybe upload the VODs on this channel? I would watch it then. Happy Holidays!

[@zer0nix]

I think he was trying to say atypical cheese :p Absolutely loving this series! Also, Merry Christmas!

[@vitaligofman1801]

i think attipic, at least phonetically, sounds like the french word for atypical, atypique. great content !

[@isaacdavis3134]

25:00 I bet the last guy meant to say “atypical” cheese and just mistyped instead of attipic cheese. That’s all I can figure

[@tommynolan3088]

im a cheese addict, thats why im here, ive been banned from every deli in town so this is my only substitute for the real thing. love the content bro, watch every day, i havent played for years and years but you make this so entertaining.

[@Mentherex]

Silly goose type build

[@Unrelentinghumor]

“Lt. Dan sounds terrifying” 😂

[@Leeroy49]

Cool to see you play people I still remember from my active times :)

[@jellyorwhat3343]

Damn bro, your channel absolutely explodes, I'm so happy for you

[@berrieds]

Merry Christmas! Much love my dude ☺️

[@ashitaka8633]

Congratulations on 70k!!!! Genuinely enjoy your content.

[@MadMathMike]

Honestly just fantastic content! Thanks, uThermal!

[@kordrun7103]

Hey, you got to 70k subs!! Congrats man. Love the vids.

[@tosemnomeprocanal]

Id love to see a second planetary rush after the first one is defended

[@iguana4751]

LtDan is a character in Forrest Gump

[@sjn2009]

In his defense Lt Dan was a terrifying man WITH NO LEGS

[@SeekAndDestroyTM]

My man uploading content on Christmas Day. What a legend.

[@crispycrimps865]

Which starcraft unit would make the best Santa Claus?

[@crispycrimps865]

I feel like an overlord would make a good Santa because think bout how many presents you could fit in that bitch

[@infernosloth]

overlord

[@nicklindberg90]

Viking?

[@daPawlak]

Reaper - gets in, leaves gifts, gets out

[@JSp4wN]

Penguin brothers.

[@jaeyang9540]

Your PF cheese getting better, just a suggestion, when you see a banshee, build some Vikings. When you hit that Protoss and took out pylon and base, I bet he was supply blocked. Especially in early stages of game. There is another cheese for Zerg, go straight after overlords and then come in with army. Nothing worse than using your slots for overlords then waiting to inject or get more to build other units. Creates that delay. Anytime you lose a base in early game, highly probable of creating supply block.

[@GabrielSantosStandardCombo]

"wasting your time and mine" Hey listen, if you're having fun, it's not a waste of time. Sounds like he wasn't having fun, but Mark sure was.

[@seriouscasualgamer9580]

He might be a french speaker, he meant unusual cheese

[@AB-ri5ix]

Awesome job! Is it possible to do a double planetary (coming from different directions) at the same time? That would be next level.

[@SpaceGladiator]

Quick google showed that "atipic" is romanian and stands for "atypically" or "uncommon" so he was surprised about that atypically cheese. Nice Series as usual. 👍

[@englercj]

I think LtDan was saying "an epic cheese." Agreed Dan. Agreed.

[@Kushibunny]

Haha I was doing that exact thing, getting these vids from the algorithm, subbed for you.

[@Fred-yq3fs]

100% french. atypical = atypique in French, hence this "attipic", lol. For sure a compliment plus a lot of surprise.

[@tadoriaselan3268]

Attipic cheese is a shortened version of "atypical cheese" which means uncommon/rare cheese.

[@catbert7]

It's shorter by 1 letter... ;p

[@AndrewArts]

Shorter 😂❤️

[@lickenchicken143]

Very interesting to see a super repair on a single Siege Tank. I suppose this an attipic strat because the Tank doesn't have enough base health to survive long enough to be repaired, like trying to transfuse a Ling.

[@BufoToxin-i3p]

Congratulations on breaking 70K subs Thermy!

[@misterfloflo7]

Lt mean lieutenant and Dan is a pretty common name in France, so i think LtDan is French, and "atypique" is the word for atypical, so he write "attipic" in a try to translate that Btw gg, love that video

[@ashitaka8633]

What about a proxy nexus in your opponents base and recall zealots and probes in their base?

[@jacktracy7839]

I’m like a long time Zerg main but these videos make me wanna try Terran more lol

[@creepybaby15]

Love your videos mate keep ‘em up 👍

[@TheGeneralceasar]

"lietenant dan sounds scary" - hell yeah dan served in nam, really dan scary lol

[@XRyanK]

Oooooh salty protoss lol Merry Christmas yall.

[@tatimc6581]

What if you made building armor upgrade before the cc starts upgrading into planetary?

[@murloc_rampage3856]

That'd be epic. It'd negate zerglings and queens so easily.

[@sadasdafa]

dude: wasting time by not gg also dude: "you wasting my time and your time"

[@OmegaIL]

It's the first time when someone asked me to subscribe and I actually did. 🤔 And I don't even play starcraft.

[@JSp4wN]

Same here, I haven't played sc2 in years but I do enjoy watching Marc play. I think most of his viewers are the same.

[@andyspark5192]

Most viewers don't play SC (anymore), but it's good content, fun to watch and very exciting.

[@edreges9893]

What a thoughtful Christmas gift. Thanks, Marc! How did you know what I wanted?

[@Irisfantasies]

"Atipic" cheese, that word indeed exists and it means "not common" so yeah a not common cheese 👌

[@zr6671]

do u think the PF range or armor upgrade from ebay would be worth it for your rush? LT Dan prob meant "*atypical*" cheese, unusual or not normal

[@gabydewilde]

You are not making use of the load scv feature. Not sure how to do it but it is a feature. Perhaps, since their workers deal melee [range] damage, one could drop scv's and build engineering bays around the pf to limit surface area. Perhaps the unmorphed command center can hold enough scv's to kill a unit parked in your landing zone. Perhaps you could bring a full load of scv's to repair while morphing into a pf. The most mysterious feature is loading [extra] workers into the pf. What could possibly be the point in doing that? If the game had some massive AoE inferno spell it would be useful? Or is it really possible to do load/unload micro and dodge attacks?

[@theblaxinator]

Love it. Idea for you, maybe do an "unnatural" series where you are never allowed to take your natural or something :)

[@theNimboo]

Attipic cheese ;) I believe means Atypical cheese, I think he was giving you a compliment

[@traaaaan]

due to a coal shortage terran santa now delivers stinky cheese on xmas

[@hawkzro2455]

Love that second game salt! "... your time and my time." Roflol, what a tool. Losing is losing regardless of how you lose. If all you can do is complain about losing to a cheese build, then maybe you need to reflect and realize that you're really not that good of a player and can learn from the experience xD

[@yousus2121]

Merry Christmas thermy!!

[@habarvaz]

That second game was difficult to watch. I almost felt sorry for the Protoss

[@AakeTraak]

Until he said something. What a snowflake.

[@catbert7]

After his moronic statement, I felt no sympathy for him whatsoever ;p

[@PT-qe2rb]

@@catbert7 I don't think it was a moronic statement. I think he recognized that he was getting memed on by a much higher ranked player smurfing - hence his comment of "wasting time" meaning that it was not a legitimate and properly competitive match between two equally skilled players at that rank. The protoss player was very blatantly significantly out-micro'd in every engagement, and if this were a proper match he would've been rolled very quickly. As much as I love uthermals content I can recognize it for what it is - an insanely skilled player smurfing lower ranks with a handicap, and for that reason I can't help but feel sorry for other players (whose MMR he is taking) and understand their frustration.

[@andrewbeznosov8046]

@@PT-qe2rb But it's just one game, and you see that this higher level player intentionally handicapped himself. I'd be happy to play against, say, Maru with some crazy handicap. If you win you have "scalped" a pro-player, if you lose - well, it was a pro player, no shame in that. It's not like you have to spend 2 hours in this game, or this loss had any painful consequences.

[@PT-qe2rb]

@@andrewbeznosov8046 There's a difference between an exhibition match where you play against a pro you know has a handicap, and an unknown pro who is memeing on you by queueing on the ladder when you don't expect it. The fact the pro handicapped himself makes it worse - he's screwing around when you're trying to play a serious game, yet still easily beats you. You say it's just one game, but it isn't just one game. You lose the game, and lose your MMR, and it takes another game (or more) just to get back to where you started, which is easily 20-30 mins. Some people don't have that much time to play games, and if I had to waste 30 minutes just to get back to where I started because some pro decided to mess around, then yes, I would see it as a waste of my time. Imagine sitting down to play hoping to gain some ranks only for a pro to absolutely dunk on you for no reason other than because they want to, and humiliating you in the process with some meme cheese. That's not fun, and that's demoralizing. Again, while I very much enjoy uthermals content (and watch every single video), I can at least recognise that what he's doing is unfair to most of the players he plays against until he hits a much higher MMR. No matter how uthermal frames these matches as being a 'challenge' and difficult to overcome, and paints himself as an underdog, it is clear that he is NOT the underdog in most if not all of these challenges. He's playing 4.4k players here when he's a 6.2k player in skill. The fact that he can hit top 50 with some of these meme challenges when these players couldn't even come close to that playing their absolute best shows that these are unfair matchups no matter what handicap he gives himself. If you watch chess streamers/youtubers like Hikaru Nakamura, they have special accounts for challenge runs which specifically do not take an opponent's MMR/ELO when they win.

[@Necrocidal]

25:15 "atypical" cheese

[@Andrei2patrU]

atypical chese, best cheese, break the meta!

[@doxun7823]

So when are we getting hydras or Ultras? Maybe combine them for -lisk to grand master.

[@alsto8298]

He probably meant atypical by "attipic". Not everyone is an english native speaker, especially at EUW.

[@reginaldkelly7809]

can we see a challenge, were u have to build 1 of each unit. the only way to build an additional unit of a single type is to build all AVAILABLE units in the production building. but u must get the tech for all units by each stage of the game. tier 1 aearly, teir 2 mid, tier 3+ late. i think that would be tough.

[@Ty-bz7zx]

Amazing to me how many people have these self-inflated narcissistic attitudes when they get clearly outplayed, like you didn't just out skill them by miles. Anything you do in the game ... is a possibility and totally "legit", allowed, and proper according the game developers, rushing, even mule drops imho are totally fair / legal and part of the game.... if not it would be a bug, or glitch. Get off your high horses and admit you got schooled. Pathetic. (Always bangin' with amazing skillz Thermy! Keep the delusional tears flowing!)

[@neekzzgg]

merry christmas uthermal

[@PatrickSmithPhD]

I'm loving this series

[@jasonauger2914]

Just what I wanted, a big clump of salt in my stocking 🧂 🧂 🧂

[@wiskonine]

I love this series so much...

[@timc7410]

Merry Christmas thermal you’re the man, thanks for your consistent uploads that always bring positivity

[@coldhardwick]

Does it make sense to get building armor and/or high sec auto tracking?

[@henningbreede6428]

No, that doesn't finish in time.

[@gfg1651]

gratz on 70k

[@matthiasrost894]

A bit late and a bit unrelated, but.... Merry Christmas Marc!

[@Neceros]

I fecking love mobile tanks. Just feels cool to roll through blastin'

[@Terracronz]

Merry Christmas!

[@Sorenzo]

Last guy could've literally just flown his factory away, sacrifized one depot and a tech lab, and killed the PF with the banshee... Not guaranteed success of course, but the banshee would just get free damage in until you could bring medivacs or vikings. And he could build those too...

[@luxon4]

0:39 is this not true for 99% of maps? theres always a triangle and line third so if you plant between them they obviously cant get to both.

[@lewisvargrson]

15:48 "Waste of your time and my time." Playing video games are a waste of time, just so happens to be a fun waste of time. That and nobody can hear him over the sound of him losing :P

[@Tsnafu]

Planetary distraction to GM - works though, as you said, just seeing one induces so much panic people don't realise that the units are the ones killing them

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

Here's my gamer translation based on years of bad gamer quick speech. How I instantly read it was: gg, At Epic Cheese ;) Typical would always carry the y in sland because of its typicall association. lol

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

because zerg is squishy, you could do a box in method with more then one planetary against zerg trapping them in their natural and main... just box them in... and then just have some range for ravagers, or back line of tanks.. lol plentary fortress sheannanies bring back some good memories.