I Just Invented a Ridiculous Protoss Cheese *NEW SERIES*

[@Phi1618033]

Phil Collins could feel those phoenixes coming in the air tonight.

[@Neptunaea]

DU DU DU DU DU DU DUDUDUDU

[@mybusiness6125]

It was a Land of Confusion

[@-lloygic-3565]

Oh lawd!

[@willbarton3377]

"...gonna have phoenix nightmares for the rest of his life. Absolute freaking torture!"

[@123gavagai]

tonight live for you: Phil Collins and Lunatic Larry

[@frab6809]

I do wish you brought Sentries with the High Templar in the Storm-Drop Game. Trap the workers with the sentry, watch them be stormed in a cage.

[@hentaidude666]

Actual evil genius strategy

[@schwibz]

Marc needs to see/try this!

[@Broockle]

reaction time is all the wall he needed

[@EvlNinjadude]

Psure he tried this during the preview of the Battery Overcharge Change Testbuild. It worked wonders because it went off so early. Not sure why he didn't try it here; possibly to emphasize the role of the HT more.

[@Broockle]

@@EvlNinjadude sorry... what?

[@leafykille]

I think that you should be able to just choose whatever race that hasn't been played enough. Nice and simple, no messing around with what units you should play with.

[@diox8tony]

or just random until one race runs out, then pick the other 2. keep going atleast. The last units in each race will be fun games, even if he gets destroyed forcing a broodlord rush in GM.

[@DTwoHS]

Flip a coin when there are two races left.

[@GlenBeebe]

Just rotate one race each game

[@the2nddroid]

That mass phoenix killing overlords are straight up evil.

[@wschmrdr]

Reminds me of the Sair-DT strategy in Brood War.

[@DrMJJr]

But it was GLORIOUS lolol🤣🤣🤣

[@BunnyHoppin-]

​@@wschmrdr I was going to mention this, glad someone else did first.

[@davidelrizzo]

This is what my nightmares are as a Zerg player

[@MrSqutsslo]

love how in the storm one he kept rallying dozens of probes to die lol

[@seldoon4298]

i kept thinking he would notice lol

[@ginz9r]

😂😂😂 wtf was that

[@123gavagai]

he also didn't notice that he lost his core at that exchange - was kinda hilarious to watch

[@Krethak]

Argh, that hurt so much watching him suiciding those drones at a base that didn't even exist any more and I don't even play the game! ^^'

[@frostmichael8360]

Imagine you're 2000MMR , casually playing a game after school or work and uThermal coming micro his warp coloss on your nose. Enough reason to go to bed without eat.

[@Volkaer]

You can torture zerg harder with phoenix if you start lifting larvae.

[@RobinZuFALL]

Nee challenge idea: You have to ask your opponent during the game which you units you are allowed to build 😄

[@zaftnotameni]

1. lucky wins (for all the reasons you mentioned) should just not count for any unit 2. running out of units of one race and using the worst is an AWESOME idea

[@Blademaster1989]

not count it if you get cheesed

[@nicklindberg90]

Its not an 'only X unit to GM' challenge, so if you have to build a few early units to survive the first few minutes i think you're allowed

[@jasonpoehland9074]

I better get a case of whine to go with all this cheese

[@CamiloCBG]

😅

[@Labolubu]

Phil Collins saw it coming in the air tonight

[@ObliviousNaga]

I think if you lose with a unit and you hit a second cycle, you have to use those you lost with or you just keep the order from the first cycle

[@psychotropnilachtan8869]

Mutas deserve their own series ! Mutas and spines to GM ? :D

[@mikeshivak]

Id watch the hell out of this

[@balazsfenyes3880]

Mutas are very weak in straight fight, this is not brood wars anymore.

[@psychotropnilachtan8869]

@@balazsfenyes3880 Thats why its a challenge ^^

[@stomachfat]

@25:30 "it doesn't have anything to do with the game, i legit just suck" bahaha too relatable

[@TheGeniusZingo]

Like the new series! I think if you run out of units of one race, I think you should alternate between the two remaining races, and then only play the race that is left after that :)

[@bingusbongus8497]

I know it's a good time when uthermal starts off by talking about cheese 🧀

[@Bajoli86]

He is a real certified Dutch-masochistic-cheese guy🤣

[@rossvolkmann1161]

Imagine killing 10+ workers and wiping your opponent's entire army at 5 minutes only to have them counter-attack with Collossus/Sentry and win. I would feel so confused and SO bad at the game.

[@pomaster]

Uthermal: are u not entertained? Me: i am very entertained, thank you Cant wait to see more of this❤

[@SirMrMcWinnie]

Idea for if you run out of units: You are out of units. Embrace it! Canon s, spines and pfs are your friends 😂

[@nickyboyfloy1435]

2v2s were the best! More of those please.

[@SaithMasu12]

I have many spore crawlers in my base. My overlords are save here. 2 seconds later: 17 phoenixes fly in and kill them anyway

[@dalcowboiz]

Sounds like a good starcrafts carbot video

[@DashBlue]

I think if you get cheesed before executing your own cheese you should just redo that unit later on. I want to see a proper cheese executed for all the units. If you finish a race early, your idea to have a vote for one unit of that race until you finish the challenge sounds fun, either that or do a roulette wheel Looking forward to seeing the most brutal, merciless cheeses!

[@ajd7772]

BEST IDEA EVER! Love this series. Dont let this one die, keep posting ! lol

[@RandomCommenter955]

i think base wise you should build however many would facilitate a certain strategy. like when you did the 198 supply battle cruiser video.

[@lg6707]

This sounds like a fun series, I'm a huge fan of random some series seem to drag on a bit like I struggled to follow some of them that I found more boring like a lot of the zerg ones and the ghost or spider mine ones.

[@alesjaterka2155]

I love how uThermal doesn't know how much people in gold league sucks. Trust me, I am one of them. Static defence shines in those leagues, because we don't know what is happening on the map, we use F2 all the time, otherwise we lose our units in open space (they are not killed, they just stand there until end of the time). We cannot divide army properly, so we are not able to defend anything with units. Honestly, I have seen so many videos, where Harstem, Lowko, uThermal or any other good player is mentioning that Marine or reaper is built at this precize time. I don't remember it, and I don't care, in gold, this time window is twice the size. Your first Marine could be there at 2:20, and also 3:40. And every time it's just stressful. I sometmise stop all my workers by accident and notice it 10 or 20 seconds later. It killing event for GM player but in gold league, well, shit happens...

[@Killerrabbitjc]

I love this series so much, cannot wait for more videos!

[@fdcrat]

Surely, if you're getting cheesed, you defend it normally and then transition to the chosen unit. As Zerg playing a proxy swarmhost rush against a cannon rush with proxy robo, you're allowed to use queen/ravagers against the rush and then transition to the swarmhosts you had planned.

[@zeraghtul6834]

With all that cheese, you might as well make a pizza.

[@achromicwhite2309]

I'd love to see you try something... When BeastyQT play his "sentries only to GM", he used sentry drops to get some harassment in... and something that I thought was interesting is that people would pull their workers... but a nice force field would catch them all; the workers all clumping up against the force field. Now, against sentry this just meant a few extra kills... but I couldn't help but to think "What if there was a disruptor or storm with that?"

[@sage5296]

I think if you get cheesed early, if you can hold the cheese and counter with some unit and get the W, that should count still. Otherwise I think it's fine to not count it as well

[@bullet_legends3953]

I can't wait to see the zealot build, when I play I go as fast as possible charge zealot with +1 attack and then just keep upgrading attack until I win. I have yet to lose as protoss with this nonsense XD. keep making great content, you made me jump back on this fun game, can't wait to see the next vid.

[@Neptunaea]

Love the creativity! This looks so exciting.

[@RandomMusik]

The Colossus Hit and run is hilarious wish to see that more often.

[@evanfoster7808]

Killer new series Marc! Loved these first games. -Ffetusboy, Diamond Z cheeser

[@ahmadali-xd3gk]

your videos are all entertaining as gained back my interest in sc 2

[@dreski78]

I think that if you run out of units on 1 race. you should spin a wheel for the last 2 races.

[@jordanturner2381]

Haha this is a fun idea. Looking forward to watching this series.

[@isaac_shelton]

I think that if you run out of units, you should refresh that race so now each unit can be played max twice or maybe even you have to use them in the order you did the first time

[@AvatarianArtificer]

the 4 minutes of probes being rallied off 2 bases into the enemy army in the last game was so painful to watch

[@UbergamR447]

great video! love the storm drops :D gg

[@yoda0017]

It still feels weird to me that high templars have a basic attack. My brain is still stuck in Wings of Liberty where they didn't have an attack. So if you a-moved your army they'd move to the front and just walk into the enemy fire and die for free.

[@BoxOfWasabi]

I love the meta aspect of this challenge!

[@balazsfenyes3880]

to be fair templars and archons are pretty OP together, archons in general are very strong against zerg

[@yjhuoh]

If you run out of units for a race, you should be forced to building cheese. PF rush, cannon rush, proxy hatchery, etc.

[@RaukoLym]

What about instead of random, rotating through races (keeping the same order) to make sure you get an even distribution? Fun video! :)

[@waapwaa]

love your vedio UTM, is there any plans on new RTS game tempstrising when its release?

[@morpheaworld]

UThermal is hilarious!!! Always good times watching your videos

[@SamtasticOnline]

I saw the cybercore get destroyed, but I didn't realize you never rebuilt it until you said something.

[@qing-jaohan8641]

This will be a fun series!

[@knerdknight9109]

When you finish a race and you are picked it in random, you have to then go in order that you first did that race

[@GeneralEclectik]

The static d kept that guy alive from the counter push. Maybe not 9 but like 4 could a stoped you from harassing.

[@GodTorak]

Damn warp prisms need to only be able to load/unload when directly above the units. Currently they are nuts.

[@uzairasif4684]

Since ur random , instead of saying glhf im terran/toss/zerg , for the first few games u can say like glhf im (name of the unit u gonna make)

[@FreeFalestineYaAllah-Jibril]

in this case, wouldn't a win without ticking off a crap unit but raising in MMR, be classed as an unlucky win? also, shall we all come up with a list of non-unit cheeses for marc to do when he does finish off a race's list of units - maybe ones that has to be picked randomly, regardless of enemy race, so he never "runs out" of stuff to do before getting the last units in the other races

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Viper rush is gonna hit like a bunch of moths hitting a lightbulb

[@jacksontarlin6841]

I think if you keep landing Protoss and run out of units, the play would be to just flip and coin and "randomly" queue either Zerg or Terran instead of queuing Random race.

[@timgeist4502]

I'm so incredibly exited for the Disruptor episode

[@rosslowman9781]

One option, if you only need a few extra games on a race, would be to redo a cheese that you lost with earlier. Just don't reuse a successful cheese.

[@matswallsten1628]

Amazing series!

[@maximk9964]

That phoenix game was brutal! The great Overlord massacre of 2024

[@FantasticForce23]

I want the opposite, when you get all units for Protoss you can now always cheese with it.

[@KurmisTheAllMighty]

Yo, Mark! An idea for 3 vs 3! 3 protoss cannon rush pluss phoenix rush and stalker rush with blink. Maybe switch something or combine with backdoor DT...

[@Tacts0317]

Templars have been my favorite unit since the beginning

[@eimantasbutkus5324]

Loved the phoenix play.

[@Discerned_]

The second cheesiest man alive (chronologically)

[@AgentSnowpuff]

I like this series idea, but I don't want there to be a huge penalty for finishing a race because that's just going to be based on RNG. If you run out of units for a race you should just let that race start over.

[@bryanjohnston89]

NA server had a weird issue with anyone last season at 2100+ MMR made Masters

[@nathankucera9135]

How about if you run out of units for a race, then you have to cycle through the units for that race again in the original order that you played them.

[@H4NGM4NDVD]

i have no clue how you can so effortlessly commentate the build while you play.

[@diox8tony]

"I'm going to prioritize harder units while my MMR is low" 1st game, collosus,,,ok,,,,,2nd game Pheonix....uh

[@KageShukuun]

do workers count as units that you need to use in the crazy strat list?

[@SmolKTN]

Play a series where you give advice mid game to the opponent "you're missing roach speed".

[@tiggerbane4325]

If you get all the ones from random just pull out a physical coin and flip it!

[@朕是神]

This feels more like a spectacle than a challenge. Hmmm. Well at least it's entertaining in small doses.

[@ginz9r]

There's a reason smurfing is a able offence in some games

[@siwei438]

I think it is very fair to let you build 10-15 supply of units if you decided to do Tier 2 - 3 units cheese.

[@zr6671]

Howabout for this challenge you manually randomize the races that way you will "progress" them evenly?

[@hsinglim]

Think for the third game, better to not have zealots and immortals as part of the attack. Would be more of a challenge if it was really just that unit.

[@maxtonherst6055]

If you use all the units in a race, you have to re-use the units you lost with.

[@123gavagai]

so what's the deal with the physics behind a colossus in a warp prism?

[@NepTunez-ff9bp]

Yes - new series!

[@ErenisRanitos]

ok, cool fine. but you OUGHT to have a cool cheese name!!!

[@jtvanilla1776]

You discovered sc:bw pvz Corsair opener with those phoenixes.

[@Labolubu]

your insane! I like that.

[@PassiveMoney1979]

Can you do another Spine/queen rush series?... I love them

[@Pm3m_Dia]

I think you should set a time for how long the game needs to be to be counted if it's a loss. 3 min maybe?

[@Moeron86]

I would argue that the first game should count for sentry, not colossus. Only 2 colossus fighting while a ton of sentries really won the game with numbers and great use of forcefield in key battles. If the rest of the challenge is like this your just playing normal. (Uthermal normal😅)

[@lukecharlebois2518]

i think if you finish a race and you keep getting it it would be reasonable to be allowed to go back to units that you failed on

[@julkul2619]

Can't wait for the Observer cheese 💪

[@Sinnaj63]

Damn, floating 980/750 in the third game. And people say these to grandmaster challenges are unfair application of pro skill lol(Which is just them being haters IMO)

[@thomaschevrierlaliberte5884]

Could you simply choose another race to match the number of units used?

[@mikeshivak]

If Phill can gg after that game, you can too.

[@Lukas-ii9kw]

He donated like 20 probes in the storm game due to a bad rally point

[@brandon0981]

Why do you always default send your probes into the enemies and never fix it?

[@yzmoto5753]

I thought battery overcharge was removed in the patch from last month?

[@RyloSean]

Ggs. Try the Templar one again.

[@chrisavelino2201]

Phoenix nightmares FTW