The Extinct Ice Age Mammals of North America

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@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this presentation! As much as it's very painful to me to sit in one spot for as long as this lasted, I would have doubled up on the pain med that I can safely double up on, and sat, rapt, throughout the whole thing! This gentleman is so good at this, his voice clear, speech pattern smooth, pausing when things need to soak in a moment, yet lilting through the parts that are easily understood. His entire presentation was a joy to watch! I'm going to save this one and watch it over & over!
@Rarasrevenge
@Rarasrevenge 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you are able to heal and not deal with that pain. Exhaust all options
@rapauli
@rapauli Жыл бұрын
Nice to watch online.
@zenolachance1181
@zenolachance1181 3 жыл бұрын
After my retirement I became fascinated with Ice Age Extinction oh, but I have never been to a lecture because I always thought it would be full of college kids. Looking at the audience at the end of this video I see that there are many people my age interested in this. I may have to begin going to lectures
@PacNasty0
@PacNasty0 2 жыл бұрын
"History" is a Holocene thing, which is BS. Dogs were not even domesticated in this epoch. The last couple hundred years have just been a huge con. Less land mass to work with = problems.
@emojiking8580
@emojiking8580 2 жыл бұрын
Do it, I just retired also, yaaaay😃!!!!
@gurbindersekhon8240
@gurbindersekhon8240 2 жыл бұрын
This is a faculty lecture so I understand why there would be so many people of a particular age.. But please don't let something as inconsequential as "age" stop you from learning about what you're interested in!!! We possibly cannot know everything and we always learn, sometimes even though own introspection!!!
@2l84t
@2l84t 2 жыл бұрын
@@PacNasty0 Thanks now off you go, your cartoons are starting don't forget your KoolAid.
@davidsheckler8417
@davidsheckler8417 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinated by fake-a-saurses AHAHAHAHA
@robertjohnso7087
@robertjohnso7087 3 жыл бұрын
What an eloquent, brilliant individual. I’m grateful to have heard this lecture. Thank you !!!
@zenolachance1181
@zenolachance1181 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he did a wonderful job. I'm going to search around and see if I can find more lecture by this man
@holdinitdowninptown
@holdinitdowninptown 3 жыл бұрын
If you notice on the known locations of 90% of these species have been found in one particular formation in southern Florida. I'm fortunate enough to live within driving distance and anyone thats been there you are literally walking into the ice age. The amount of phosphorus material there is astounding.
@danttapp4446
@danttapp4446 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked the fact that you answered a lot of questions, but you also asked a lot of questions. An excellant presentation.
@shilohgardner
@shilohgardner 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my son have been hunting a plyocene deposit on the Arkansas river. He’s found one Mastodon skull and one jaw bone. We find tons of bison skulls there. Hoping to find some of these now!
@Jarod-vg9wq
@Jarod-vg9wq 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta make vids on stuff like this man.
@forestdweller5581
@forestdweller5581 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Grayson provides the best arguments i have seen why hunter-gatherers could not have caused the magafauna extinction. Most of all, i love it when a researcher can simply say how we just don't know yet.
@jayvanslayer2787
@jayvanslayer2787 4 жыл бұрын
paleo indians did not cause extinction of mege fauna bc the first paleos that arrived were very FEW in number, and when living wild populations do not expand fast, but very slowly. It took thous of yrs for the paleo pop to grow, and by then all the mega fauna was gone. Another thing, why would the paloes kill off all the mega animals and not the smaller ones. Giant beavers were hard or imposs to hunt bc they always retreated to the water
@forestdweller5581
@forestdweller5581 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayvanslayer2787 All valid points. And also the extinct species included some bad ass big predators they certainly would not have hunted. The theory that an impact from space was at play has gained credibility since a huge crater was discovered 2 years ago west of Greenland, corresponding to that time period.
@bradhirsch4845
@bradhirsch4845 3 жыл бұрын
These animals had never ever seen a human being or anything remotely like a human being. They had evolved apart from humans. Therefore the animals likely did not have a fear of people. It was an entire continent of animals that acted like the Galapagos animals act. You could walk right up to them. And the ancestors of native americans were likely very skilled hunters. Do the math!!
@TheFishermansteve
@TheFishermansteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradhirsch4845 there is no way to say this for certain. I think there were people in north America during the last ice age. Possibly even before that
@kamion53
@kamion53 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradhirsch4845 that is an acceptable idea, but does not explain why mammoth lasted longer in East Siberia an area where human presence is older then in the America's. But one does not asume skilled huntership, Megafauna has a slow reproductian rate, when you kill 5 animals a year of a species that reproduces a young every 5 years, the species goes in decline. Just look how fast the African elephant declined in just 150 years. 150 years is nothing impressive on the archeological timeframe.
@mikeymasters8459
@mikeymasters8459 2 жыл бұрын
I normally don’t watch entire lectures on KZbin. That being said, this was excellent and I enjoyed the entire lecture. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@s.brekke2285
@s.brekke2285 Жыл бұрын
I agree great presentation...fascinating
@nathanokun8801
@nathanokun8801 4 жыл бұрын
Note that there seems to be a weight limit of surviving big ancient mammals of under 150 pounds. Just like there was a maximum weight of the animals that survived the end of the Cretaceous of somewhat less (~50 pounds if I recall). Big animals cannot hide from other animals or from environmental catastrophes and need more food, so curtains to them...
@21LAZgoo
@21LAZgoo 2 жыл бұрын
Wellll not really, bison elk and moose weigh many times more than 150 pounds and they still here although yes in this quaternary extinction event way more big animals than small animals went extinct, and that doesn’t mean that it was humans who did it
@MrDragonball2000
@MrDragonball2000 8 жыл бұрын
As a big fan of the Megafauna, I enjoyed this presentation. Though I know not everyone enjoys it, younger audience and future paleontologist will.
@andy11ink
@andy11ink 6 жыл бұрын
Boyzilla Altarmore because they're more easy to brainwash
@edsemaj
@edsemaj 6 жыл бұрын
like any new discovery that goes against main stream beliefs ....its cruised lol
@michiganscythian2445
@michiganscythian2445 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Cenozoic animals get the love and attention that they deserve. Usually prehistoric = dinosaurs, but I find prehistoric mammals fascinating
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 3 жыл бұрын
I'm neither "younger" (not by a long shot!) nor a future anything, most likely - my school days are long over, though I still love to learn, and strive to learn something new every day. Yet I really enjoyed it! I loved how this presenter spoke, enjoyed the speech, itself, and loved the subject matter, and I'm "on the wrong side of 50," as I've seen it called. So... you know, maybe not leave an ageist comment, eh?
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 3 жыл бұрын
@@andy11ink *citation needed See, just look at the whole Qanon thing... it's not the young ones that are falling for that brainwashing, but the older people, in their 40s, 50s, 60s, and up! If you want to argue the whole "easier to brainwash" thing, you need to back it up with citations and reputable references.
@nolebez6850
@nolebez6850 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what type of fossils fuels clovis was using to end that ice age.
@ralphstanley84
@ralphstanley84 3 жыл бұрын
mammoth coal just like me
@oddsman01
@oddsman01 3 жыл бұрын
Stone age politicians warned earth had maybe 12 years before it exploded if pottery and arrowhead production wasn’t centrally controlled by an all powerful socialist govt.
@johnbecay6887
@johnbecay6887 3 жыл бұрын
@@oddsman01 as a student of humor, i always appreciate a joke. it takes effort. but also as a student of humor i have learned that humor is the part of the ice berg we see. beneath the water is the serious subject holding the humor above the surface. here's the serious side of this. do you believe that the global warming happening at the end of the last ice age and the global warming we are now facing occurred in the same geophysical context?
@darcidecaesaria9071
@darcidecaesaria9071 3 жыл бұрын
I have found these river rocks that when scrubbed, you can see paintings and sculptures,a few I have found show mammoth and human bonding.
@thelonephilosopher
@thelonephilosopher 8 ай бұрын
22:45 I think is Mauricio Anton not "A. Turner"
@mippins1
@mippins1 2 жыл бұрын
30:59 That adorable little Homo Sapiens sleeping in class was pretty cute. Sometimes we apes need some down time.
@energ8t
@energ8t 5 жыл бұрын
I really loved the plants and ice age mammal connection. Intriguing
@Smilo-the-Sabertooth
@Smilo-the-Sabertooth 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын
The concentration of remains at choke points, like La Brea, had me thinking there was plenty of megafauna around-just like the Savanna today. We see the same mechanic with crocodile stake outs at water holes during the dry season. Plenty of big game, despite the visual paucity from any generic vantage. You just need to find its collecting points; water holes, creche valleys, high forest (moose). In a different realm that find of a large collection of remains suggested lots about Allosaurs previously unsuspected.
@blackcast2613
@blackcast2613 7 жыл бұрын
How about an impact event between 12800 and 12600 years ago and the following global catastrophe?
@agentumsilwersilwer5310
@agentumsilwersilwer5310 7 жыл бұрын
Black Cast not one of those again :-)
@tylus8994
@tylus8994 6 жыл бұрын
@@agentumsilwersilwer5310 You mean like the Hiawatha impact? :)
@oban6051
@oban6051 5 жыл бұрын
The Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis is one of the most interesting and promising scientific theories in Paleontology/Archaeology. If it’s true (and so far there hasn’t been any indication that it’s not) it is one of the most important revelations ever made and it implications for the history of our species are mind boggling.
@energ8t
@energ8t 5 жыл бұрын
It's still a worthwhile theory. Not sure why there seems to be so much resistance to it. As Grayson mentioned, doesn't mean it killed everything. Likely not. Need more time for the theory to develop as academics are studying this. Great presentation here! Excellent
@maluorno
@maluorno 5 жыл бұрын
it is the only explanation
@SammyReevesMMA
@SammyReevesMMA 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put some more ads in this videos please???
@longlakeshore
@longlakeshore 6 жыл бұрын
The more interesting question is why these extinct megafauna genera survived the six interglacial periods of the last 2.5 million years but not this current one. OR were there similar megafaunal extinctions during those interglacials we don't know about? I live in the Sonoran desert and paleobotanists say the flora was much different >15,000 BP when most of the megafauna disappeared.
@HuckleberryHim
@HuckleberryHim 6 жыл бұрын
longlakeshore It is because climate change did NOT cause the late Pleistocene extinctions. Most of the extinct megafauna had a distribution that covered diverse habitats; they were quite adaptable. The other problem with climate theories is they have to explain the wide variation in years of extinctions for American megafauna, Australian megafauna, and various island megafauna (notably New Zealand, Britain, and Madagascar). Did many events happen, each only affecting a specific island or continent? Why did they coincide exactly with human arrival in each of these places?
@jrverde6990
@jrverde6990 6 жыл бұрын
Because it was humans arriving with dogs, advanced brains, hunger and weaponry.
@DTavona
@DTavona 5 жыл бұрын
The comet impact over the great lakes region 13,000 years ago not only caused a rapid melting of the Laurentide glacier, there is evidence throughout North America that this air-burst explosion caused massive fires, leaving a discernable "black matte" layer in the soil. Below that layer, there are megafauna and Clovis points. Above it, no more Clovis and no more megafauna. The amount of fires and smoke would have contributed to a rapid cooling, impacting other parts of the world. Hunting may have contributed, but the evidence for an ET impact, similar to the Tunguska event in 1905, is overwhelming. Aside from the amount of ET elements and compounds found within this layer (e.g., K40 and H3), there is corresponding evidence within the Greenland ice cores for the same time period, showing the debris and ejecta affected the climate for rest of the world, too.
@jaustinkwack
@jaustinkwack 5 жыл бұрын
@@DTavona Good point about the Black-Matt layer and Greenland.
@derubhue6469
@derubhue6469 4 жыл бұрын
The American lion. Wow we out competed the biggest cat ever. And their lame pride?. Even after migrating all that way. Right through their turf
@johncronin2999
@johncronin2999 3 жыл бұрын
The best and funniest guy ever to present an extinction video! 👏👏👏
@AlexMcBurney
@AlexMcBurney 8 жыл бұрын
This is a fabulous presentation - I know everyone will enjoy it!
@BrodyYYC
@BrodyYYC 7 жыл бұрын
I don't buy that we don't know why they left caches. People going on long in and out trips still do it today. Its all about energy efficiency. It also shows Clovis people had lots of foresight.
@653j521
@653j521 5 жыл бұрын
BrodyYYC But not enough foresight to go back and retrieve their stuff.
@Master...deBater
@Master...deBater 4 жыл бұрын
@@653j521: There are many things that could've prevented retrieval. But due to their size...the number of points that could be carried was severely limited. Combined with the fact that good lithic material is difficult to find...it would make perfect sense that they would resort to caching preforms throughout their territory.
@johnmaccallum7935
@johnmaccallum7935 4 жыл бұрын
@@653j521 Ha shit happens and it always did!
@JudgeJulieLit
@JudgeJulieLit 4 жыл бұрын
Disconcertingly the subtitle transcription flashes and vanishes several seconds before the audio it captures. Synchronize, please.
@truthseeker1161
@truthseeker1161 4 жыл бұрын
Clovis is found everywhere, not just the southwest. Must be a thousand found in east Tn.
@jonwilliams23
@jonwilliams23 3 жыл бұрын
Right on. Here in SE Iowa many Clovis have also been found. If you look at a map of Clovis finds, they are all over the US.
@bottel01
@bottel01 3 жыл бұрын
I( remember Clovis he was just 16 years old and weight 350lb 7' tall and it was not fat. he crash this party I was at in Cottage Grove Or. in 1972 and started to knock the crap out out everyone it was the most amazing thing I ever seen.
@danielchristian5541
@danielchristian5541 3 жыл бұрын
I believe there are more Clovis sites East of the Mississippi
@raykinney9907
@raykinney9907 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonwilliams23 Yes, but what was the distribution patterns of perhaps 10 K more occupation time of pre-clovis, that is a lot of time for a lot of things to happen here before clovis... and evidence is building.
@lindymuse9271
@lindymuse9271 3 жыл бұрын
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@macioluko9484
@macioluko9484 5 жыл бұрын
Randall Carlson's and others' suggested comet impact theory is the best explanation for the demise of these large animals so far. Robert Shoch also suggests a theory involving a massive solar flare as the culprit to consider. One thing that most scientists today finally agree on is that human predation did NOT significantly contribute to their demise. In fact, it was the human race that was very much endangered in the late Pleistocene and the sudden extinction of these massive animals is one of the main reasons we can have a discussion about this today. @54:11 There is plenty of evidence for this! The black mat (soot rich) layer is now identified throughout North and South America as far as 41 degrees south by Mario Pino, Kennett and colleagues. The Pilauco Bajo site shows clear evidence of changes known to be associated with the Younger Dryas impact event. These pieces of evidence included a black mat layer, 12 800 years in age, that coincided with the disappearance of the South American Pleistocene megafauna fossils, an abrupt shift in regional vegetation and a disappearance of human artifacts. @55:26 How scientific of you. Doesn't work? You mean it doesn't work for your version of events. Obviously no one is saying that all of this megafauna dropped dead in one day! The conclusion is today correct. We don't know for sure. It is also true that the evidence of an extraterrestrial impact followed by a massive fires and subsequent floods and fires is mounting.
@jayvanslayer2787
@jayvanslayer2787 4 жыл бұрын
comet theory not good at all bc why would a comet wipe out all the large animals and not the lesser animals. Must also realize that there were ice age mega fauna in eurasia
@cuscof2
@cuscof2 4 жыл бұрын
Actually there isn't any evidence of the impact, and there should be for something that supposedly generated hemisphere-wide climactic effects. The possible crater in Greenland isn't dated, and since it's under several thousand meters of ice it's not likely to be dated for quite some time. The Milankovich Cycle ended the ice age, changing the global climate, and megafauna have very specialized environmental needs. The disappearance seems to have been fairly gradual, which a cometary impact is not.
@Raydensheraj
@Raydensheraj 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see how human caused extinction is even debated. Mixed with maybe viral diseases and a couple years of weather conditions causing humans to hunt with more force...maybe better hunting tactics mixed with a possibility of discovery of poisonous material applied on weapons...mix and match some of these and I don't see how it wouldn't be the best explanation. Look how humans destroy entire species without even hunting them...back then we didn't have any moral values except survival. All the other hypotheses have literally zero evidence. It's quite telling that only homo sapiens remained while the Neanderthals disappeared. It's quite telling everywhere we show up... species disappear...
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 2 жыл бұрын
@@Raydensheraj
@21LAZgoo
@21LAZgoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayvanslayer2787 some small animals did go extinct wym
@marilynn76
@marilynn76 11 ай бұрын
Loved this! How I miss attending lectures in Kane Hall!
@ltrain4479
@ltrain4479 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I thought they found Clovis sites in the east. I remember something about a Clovis site on the eastern shore of Maryland and in Delaware.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 5 жыл бұрын
There are more Clovis sites in just the tidewater region of Delaware,Maryland, and Virginia than in all of the states West of the Mississippi. The Clovis people were Solutreans from Europe.
@cliffowens3629
@cliffowens3629 5 жыл бұрын
Clovis points are the holy grail to replicate in the art of flintknapping. I haven't reached the level of chipping yet.
@danamcalister
@danamcalister 4 жыл бұрын
There are more Clovis sites in the east than in the west, several more.
@roscoeshepard
@roscoeshepard 3 жыл бұрын
@@danamcalister Solutrean from Spain And France look just like Clovis. Alot of the eastern sites are older than Clovis.
@homerfj1100
@homerfj1100 3 жыл бұрын
What's with the adverts?. This is from a University (or was it posted privately?).
@PUBHEAD1
@PUBHEAD1 7 жыл бұрын
I really liked this lecture.
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 2 жыл бұрын
Avocado story is awesome! Didn’t know that, what about Osage orange fruits? They had to evolve because of mammoths I think.
@NormBaker.
@NormBaker. 3 жыл бұрын
One theory you don't hear about is the Gama ray burst from outer space. Which was a short big burst from a nearby stellar object. It radiated the western hemisphere. Killing the larger above ground animals
@markcynic808
@markcynic808 Жыл бұрын
That's because it isn't a theory, it's bunk. The earth revolves around its north-south axis. Ever tried cooking a pig on just one side using a continually rotating spit? Besides, similar megafaunal extinctions occurred in Australia, too.
@NormBaker.
@NormBaker. Жыл бұрын
@@markcynic808 OK...so extinctions multiple times in history and places can't exist? What school did you go too?
@markcynic808
@markcynic808 Жыл бұрын
@@NormBaker. The kind of school where, unlike yours, finger painting wasn't part of the curriculum for 14 year olds and "Special Needs" wasn't its prefix.
@NormBaker.
@NormBaker. Жыл бұрын
@@markcynic808 Oh hahaha! you are so clever and funny. That is so old has wrinkles.
@markcynic808
@markcynic808 Жыл бұрын
@NormBaker. What's really funny is an earlier statement here about a "Gama ray"- whatever that is - causing extinction of the above ground megfauna, but not moose, which presumably must have been burrowing animals back then.
@ronalddunne3413
@ronalddunne3413 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this lecture, reminds me why I enjoyed anthropology classes in college. Would have liked to hear more about the earliest signs of homo sapiens in the Americas. Probably too controversial to say much about without offending one group or another. Good stuff, very interesting. Enjoyed it!
@zenolachance1181
@zenolachance1181 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's controversial, it's science. Why would anyone not disclose scientific facts because they might offend someone? That's not how science works. You state the facts and if someone gets offended that's just too bad for them
@mhorram
@mhorram 3 жыл бұрын
Good lecture. Better lecturer! University of Washington you guy rock!
@mikeking4188
@mikeking4188 2 жыл бұрын
10,000 yrs doesn't seem like a long time.. but when you think about it, it is.
@billybrad5859
@billybrad5859 3 жыл бұрын
do you other videos like this one? this is super!
@ElinT13
@ElinT13 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and very funny speaker! Thank you!
@tunkunrunk
@tunkunrunk 7 жыл бұрын
almost every year we have tons of documentaries and movies about dinosaurs , and very few about prehistoric mammals . I'm getting sick of dinosaurs , I want more about prehistoric mammals
@dirkbonesteel
@dirkbonesteel 6 жыл бұрын
47:00 my first thought looking at the "spear tip" stuck in the ribs, was how could they possibly generate enough force even on level ground to stick that in there?. I am aware of spear slings but still probably a mating thing
@nathanokun8801
@nathanokun8801 4 жыл бұрын
The dates for mammoths show that the farthest they were from eastern Canada, the longer that they lasted. This seems to be true for most, if not all, of those extinct animals. Also, since a comet or asteroid would only start the climatic disasters that would follow, we get different animals succumbing to different things at different times. The asteroid/comet would be earlier than given here, probably at near the start of the loss at 13,000 years or so ago. The erasure of the sites in the North-East of North America seems rather hard to explain otherwise... Perhaps there was more than one impact at different times?
@boydrid
@boydrid 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this.
@MrKmanthie
@MrKmanthie 5 жыл бұрын
We are still in an ice age. That's why the poles are filled with ice. What we are in right now is an interglacial period (or "glacial minimum"). The eras that people think of as "ice ages" are called "glacial maximums". In the 4.56 billion year history of the earth, the polar regions have been ice-free more than they have been ice-bound.
@randallkelley3600
@randallkelley3600 5 жыл бұрын
Yes we are absolutely still in an ice age. He is right by saying the current ice age started 2.6 million years ago, but wrong by saying it ended 10K years ago.
@shirlbristow9782
@shirlbristow9782 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised he didn't say that.
@Hemiauchenia
@Hemiauchenia 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating!!!
@Roedygr
@Roedygr 3 жыл бұрын
When you find a coprophyte how do you know what species produced it?
@angelastein8390
@angelastein8390 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting presentation engaging speaker with thought-provoking content he is funny and makes the information easily understood. Would have really enjoyed his lectures when I was in collage. Thank you for bro gong this to a wider audience.
@blindbrick
@blindbrick 6 жыл бұрын
29:10 "It is a herd animal. If You find one skeleton You find a bunch more" That not only says that it was a herd animal, but they all died at the same time. What was that catastrophic event?
@TheAsthmatic91
@TheAsthmatic91 5 жыл бұрын
A deluge. A massive deluge.
@ShutTheMuckUp
@ShutTheMuckUp 3 жыл бұрын
These people are brainwashed to reject any and all catastrophe hypothesis for some bizarre reason. Impacts from space are as natural as the sunrise, yet all these "educated" people refuse to believe they could have happened recently. Christ, there's video of a space rock ripping through the atmosphere, seen from a hundred different angles, that would have killed hundreds of thousands of people had it been a more steep angle and located over a large city...and that just happened a few years ago. Chelyabinsk, Russia. I bet we could get a direct hit tomorrow, and these morons will try to tell you that nothing hit anywhere... It's pretty pathetic.
@Champinote
@Champinote 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting,all i knew about glyptodons before was from the Flintstones! :)
@johnstojanowski8126
@johnstojanowski8126 8 жыл бұрын
This is one of most comprehensible videos on Ice Age megafauna in North America. Regarding the reason for the extinctions I would ask Professor Grayson to read my book 'Ice Age Extinctions, A New Theory' which was recently published.
@a.randomjack6661
@a.randomjack6661 8 жыл бұрын
A pole shift happening at the same time as an extinction is most likely a coincidence then it is a cause. ------------- "The rate of reversals in the Earth's magnetic field has varied widely over time. 72 million years ago (Ma), the field reversed 5 times in a million years. In a 4-million-year period centered on 54 Ma, there were 10 reversals; at around 42 Ma, 17 reversals took place in the span of 3 million years. In a period of 3 million years centering on 24 Ma, 13 reversals occurred. No fewer than 51 reversals occurred in a 12-million-year period, centering on 15 million years ago. Two reversals occurred during a span of 50,000 years." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal
@johnstojanowski8126
@johnstojanowski8126 8 жыл бұрын
A. Randomjack,My theory explains why geomagnetic reversals accompany most mass extinctions. The reversals are not the cause of the extinctions. Both the extinctions and the reversals are the result of the Earth's core elements moving away and then back toward Earth-centricity. This happens when mass on the Earth's surface, either tectonic plates or ocean water (when forming polar glaciers) moves to high latitudes and then moves back to lower latitudes. This is why the geomagnetic reversals and excursions occurred, for example, when polar glaciers melted during the interglacials of the Pleistocene era.
@bowdenoleary2874
@bowdenoleary2874 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Caused by huge cosmic impacts.
@shirlbristow9782
@shirlbristow9782 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnstojanowski8126 The gelactic current sheet could4 be the trigger of a micro Nova event, may have hit alpha cantari in 2012.
@chrisparker2118
@chrisparker2118 3 жыл бұрын
@@a.randomjack6661 A coincidence that happens over and over again. I doubt it. It may not be the cause but it certainly is no coincidence.
@svartvist
@svartvist 7 жыл бұрын
Why does Grayson assume that the great basin area was always desert? There is topographical evidence in satellite photos that it was not always desert.
@macioluko9484
@macioluko9484 5 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right about that. I find it shocking how many experts use selective bias in their presentations.
@cuscof2
@cuscof2 4 жыл бұрын
He's not assuming, the geological evidence is generally clear what the climate was at the level they're excavating. If you see tree roots in your dig it's obviously wasn't a desert at that time. What he is referring to is that **at the time he's talking about** it was a desert, as it is now. Want confirmation? Joshua trees are desert plants and the sloths were eating Joshua tree fruit, the evidence of which is in the copralites.
@Rahburry
@Rahburry 2 жыл бұрын
Starts at 2:42
@sandysimon7313
@sandysimon7313 2 жыл бұрын
We have Clovis points in Illinois too i think?
@puccini4530
@puccini4530 2 жыл бұрын
This video holds the world record for ADs interruptions.
@CritterLizard
@CritterLizard 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thank you for sharing!!
@AutoTerminator
@AutoTerminator 7 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating I love it
@kornchip2
@kornchip2 5 жыл бұрын
You never thought of an impact event? There’s evidence in the geological records and in the sediment that holds dozens and dozens of mammoth bones. There’s one mammoth discovered that had two broken hips, an erection, and food that wasn’t putrified in the stomach. This means hit was hit by an enormous force, put under enormous pressure, then rapidly froze in about 8 hours. A 150 degree drop in temperature.
@macioluko9484
@macioluko9484 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! The theoretical impact (for which evidence is good evidence is mounting) seems to have been so violent and dramatic that it must have had a huge impact on the atmosphere. Enough to make this drastic (although most likely short lived) temperature drop possible. Basically a gaping hole in the atmosphere for a few minutes.
@renbergps
@renbergps 3 жыл бұрын
Taurid meteor stream, that still comes by twice a year, has dropped off a few, several times. Just a few years ago, Russia received a few during the fly by.
@swirvinbirds1971
@swirvinbirds1971 3 жыл бұрын
What? No. They found buttercup SEEDS, not plant matter. There is ZERO evidence of rapid drop in temperatures. None. Mammoths we're often caught in mud and bogs and frozen before decomposition though. They literally lived in a freezer. Besides... Not sure how something that would burn and vaporize everything would somehow freeze mammoths. And no, you do not punch a hole in the atmosphere to cause sudden freezing. 😂
@granthurlburt4062
@granthurlburt4062 2 жыл бұрын
Mammoths, such as the Beresovka Mammoth, were feeding on the edges of river banks that collapsed beneath them. Where there is permafrost, only the top 1-2 feet of soil melts, and it easily flows on the frozen ground below, This flowing soil buried the mammoth, and many others. Other frozen Alaska and Siberian megafauna include muskoxen and horses.
@soundsignatures7574
@soundsignatures7574 2 жыл бұрын
truly splendid presentation
@truthseeker1161
@truthseeker1161 3 жыл бұрын
The highest concentration of Clovis sites and artifacts is around the Chesapeake Bay area of Virginia, not in the southwest.
@RobinLynnGriffith
@RobinLynnGriffith 3 жыл бұрын
Right?!
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 2 жыл бұрын
He was talking about Clovis sites with mammoth remains wasn’t he?
@wdavis7655
@wdavis7655 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting & entertaining presentation, the crowd not so much.
@Kadath_Gaming
@Kadath_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
Were the ground sloths nocturnal? That could contribute to the widespread distribution with no human predation sites. Sleeping during the day in the caves and feeding at night?
@kamion53
@kamion53 3 жыл бұрын
the direwolf is no longer considered a member of the genus Canis, but of a new genus Eunocyon
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a heavy element, tiny diamonds and charred layer in North America presumably from an asteroid or comet strike which sublimated or melted much of the Laurentide ice shelf almost instantly causing a climate and ecological disaster which seemingly ended the Clovis culture and many species.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, although I think the Clovis people survived, some aspects of the culture changed. Like the size of the points. Folsom is actually a very similar point, even fancier, but smaller...
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 2 жыл бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 flints sharper than steel, obsidian scapels are used in heart surgery.
@rocroc
@rocroc 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to have seen a date of distribution from one site to another noted on the map. Many of the animals here came from the far North to South. Knowing the date of distribution would allow you to calculate how quickly they were moving through geography until finding a preferred habitation site and thus avoiding the great basin. I've always understood that loss of species from 10 to 18 thousand years ago was caused by the things noted here as well as catastrophic flooding from rivers generated by the ice age. Melting caused huge lakes to form until they were suddenly released when they could no longer be contained. There is absolute evidence that was the case. I also understand there was a mini ice age that turned the continent into a dust bowl. There is ample evidence of that as well. I guess that could also have been caused by an asteroid or volcano. Very interesting lecture for a novice like. Thanks.
@jamesclements9448
@jamesclements9448 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Cerutti mastodon site? It dates to 130 thousand years. It and other mounting evidence blows Clovis first out of the water.
@roscoeshepard
@roscoeshepard 3 жыл бұрын
So does Topper site in SC. They are dating artifacts to over 25.000 years old. There is so much we don't know. They probably only find about 1/10th of what was here thousands of years ago.
@21LAZgoo
@21LAZgoo 2 жыл бұрын
it sucks hueyatlaco in mexico isnt as widely known as the cerutti site, when it is nearly twice as old and has better solid evidence than the cerutti site
@alexbowman7582
@alexbowman7582 2 жыл бұрын
Those sabre teeth were presumably meant to take a large chunk of flesh out of a megafauna perhaps from a leg or stomach resulting in the disabling of the prey and it’s eventual death after a few days with big cats hounding the animal much like wolves hound bison nowadays. I would imagine with such large food sources the cats would be in prides for maximum efficiency.
@johnnyliminal8032
@johnnyliminal8032 4 жыл бұрын
Cool talk. Thanks!
@johnpittscom
@johnpittscom 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating lecture. But that messed up collar keeps distracting me.
@lawneymalbrough4309
@lawneymalbrough4309 3 жыл бұрын
Oddly some of the locations of these animals were under a mile if ice during the ice age. That makes no sense. You should place them there before the ice age or perhaps during a post glaciation period.
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any evidence that humans were hunting or even made it to wrangle island?
@HuckleberryHim
@HuckleberryHim 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is plenty of evidence that humans did both, and exactly at the same time the mammoths went extinct. Because humans are really good at that.
@jennifermcdonald5432
@jennifermcdonald5432 3 жыл бұрын
Probably a silly question but don’t Giraffes eat from very spiky Acacia trees? They manage to get food despite the spikes!
@chiaroscuroamore
@chiaroscuroamore 3 жыл бұрын
Great lecture! Thanks for the upload
@couerl
@couerl 2 жыл бұрын
Great lecture, the YD Impact theory has come a long way though, and deserves more attention and not to be dismissed.
@arc1342
@arc1342 8 жыл бұрын
somebody make a time machine already!
@Smilo-the-Sabertooth
@Smilo-the-Sabertooth 4 жыл бұрын
If a time machine is ever invented, the first time period I’m gonna visit is the ice age.
@anderslangoks3813
@anderslangoks3813 4 жыл бұрын
I'm working on it. Should be done next week.
@billybatson8657
@billybatson8657 3 жыл бұрын
My hope is that the aliens (c'mon, there's no other logical explanation as to who are controlling these vehicles) that the Pentagon admit exist, most likely have amazing HD footage of Earth's history, including that of prehistoric creatures. I could care less about the aliens themselves; I just want to see ancient history with my own eyes, and if aliens really have been observing Earth, you KNOW they've been recording everything on some advanced, VR HD recording equipment.
@koltoncrane3099
@koltoncrane3099 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about a research dig that found a mammoth frozen I believe in Alaska. The mammoth had blue bell flowers or something still in the belly. It appeared to be instantly frozen they said. Sure maybe man wiped out animals, but maybe there was a pole shift that caused massive cold air to freeze areas. Makes me think of the movie the day after tomorrow where the northern part of the U.S. has to evacuate and in England when they evacuated the king the helicopters fell cause it froze as the air was super cold. Makes ya wonder if that ever could happen. Or ever has happened.
@ctmhcoloradotreasureminehu8385
@ctmhcoloradotreasureminehu8385 3 жыл бұрын
Started to lose me @5:33 when you independently declared that the ice age ended 10,000 years ago. Many of us believe we are still in the Late Cenezoic Ice Age and currently live in an interglacial period known as the Holocene epoch.
@jacquilayton2557
@jacquilayton2557 2 жыл бұрын
If these extinct animals were so big, how big were the plants?
@Brian-ve2ff
@Brian-ve2ff 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation overall but the ET impact theory was not presented fairly. A singular impact is not the theory because it would not cause the massive extinctions around the globe. Multiple impacts are a possibility and on more than one occasion. The last 100000 years (especially the younger Dryas period) is a fascinating time period and much respect to Grayson for very clearly stating that the answer is not known and requires further intense study.
@westho7314
@westho7314 2 жыл бұрын
Good lecture & presentation on such an interesting subject, but the speaker was a bit obsessed with time & constantly watching his wrist clock. I guess when some people get old, seems they start counting the minutes left in life.. I notice that alot with old people my age who wear watches.
@brucepoole8552
@brucepoole8552 Жыл бұрын
We have the description of the upper yellowstone river from the lewis and clark expedition and it sounds like the African savanna
@remyb4044
@remyb4044 3 жыл бұрын
Great information great video one complaint I can’t stop looking at how uneven this guys beard is why not just shave it into a goatee or get rid of it if you messed it up that bad?
@rogerhester5484
@rogerhester5484 6 жыл бұрын
I think I need to tell you what froze out the mamamouth.It was a ice coment that came to close to earth with a long ice tail it's like cabin pressure at 30thousand feet up at 600 miles per hour. You freeze solid in about 12 to 23 seconds.when there is no cabin pressure you freeze solid in seconds.
@MrKmanthie
@MrKmanthie 5 жыл бұрын
Roger Hester what is your evidence for that? (and don't try claiming it's "true" because some kook like Graham Hancock or David Icke said so!)
@shirlbristow9782
@shirlbristow9782 5 жыл бұрын
You want evidance that's mammoths were frozen extremely rapidly? Like being found standing. Or the one with broken hips that died of suffocation with a mouth full of food, and undigested stomach contents. What about the island off Siberia made of animal and bone? Or that for from the late 1700's until the early 1900's hundreds thousands of mammoth tusks were harvested from Siberia and the islands near by islands. I'm not claiming to know what the cause was, and I won't waste my time telling you what I think, but these are facts, and some of the evidence of something catasrophic happened. Not Clovis. Look it up for self.
@ShutTheMuckUp
@ShutTheMuckUp 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKmanthie Dude, there's been several mammoths found that were flash-frozen... Like, the actual animals were unearthed and studied... Since there's no natural phenomenon on earth that can cause that kind of extreme conditions, space is your only option.
@Phdintheory
@Phdintheory 3 жыл бұрын
Know Name: Actually a bit more learned individual than Grahm would be his friend and associate Randall Carlson who provides much evidence suggesting that this is in fact a very likely explanation for what happened. One thing that happens during comet events is that the atmosphere can be literally displaced temporarily. This causes upper atmospheric gasses and partial vacuum to instantly freeze anything in it's proximity. Imagine if you will an impact so severe so powerful that the atmosphere is literally blown away allowing the atmosphere relative to space to rapidly fill the void. Instant freeze dried Mammoth. And there is quite a bit of evidence supporting this. In fact, here's one source: Firestone, R.B.; West, A.; Kennett, J.P.; Becker, L.; Bunch, T.E.; Revay, Z.S.; Schultz, P.H.; Belgya, T.; Kennett, D.J.; Erlandson, J.M.; Dickenson, O.J.; Goodyear, A.C.; Harris, R.S.; Howard, G.A.; Kloosterman, J.B.; Lechler, P.; Mayewski, P.A.; Montgomery, J.; Poreda, R.; Darrah, T.; Hee, S.S.Que.; Smith, A.R.; Stich, A.; Topping, W.; Wittke, J.H.; Wolbach, W.S., (2007) Evidence for an extraterrestrial impact 12,900 years ago that contributed to the megafaunal extinctions and the Younger Dryas cooling. Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 104(41):16016-16021.
@PaulHigginbothamSr
@PaulHigginbothamSr 5 жыл бұрын
I still think it was in large part due to the comet strike on the glacier. This created the Carolina bays. Only seen clearly with lidar. About the diminutive size of herd animals making them not herding in behavior. I went to England in 1996, and Muntjaks had been introduced. Very small Southeast Asian deer. Obviously herding and very tiny. Picture a cat being chased by a large dog. The cat runs under a car and is safe. Safety in numbers is the answer, because the tiny deer have lots of eyes looking for trouble. The comet effected the breeding genetic diversity, and took a while to come forth after the genetic bottleneck caused by the comet.
@Phdintheory
@Phdintheory 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that also happens during these types of events is that the atmosphere can be literally displaced temporarily. This causes upper atmospheric gasses and partial vacuum to instantly freeze anything in it's proximity. Imagine if you will an impact so severe so powerful that the atmosphere is literally blown away allowing the atmosphere relative to space to rapidly fill the void. Instant freeze dried Mammoth.
@paulbriggs3072
@paulbriggs3072 2 жыл бұрын
The thin point of bone that was sticking into the backbone rib of the Washington mastodon was way too thin to be a tusk, and was bone, not ivory.
@shirlbristow9782
@shirlbristow9782 5 жыл бұрын
How do you know they didn't get kidney stones?
@1101millie97
@1101millie97 7 жыл бұрын
It's curious how he only mentions the Clovis hunters -is he one of those Old Guard scientists who still hold out against mounting evidence there was pre-Clovis human habitation?
@agentumsilwersilwer5310
@agentumsilwersilwer5310 7 жыл бұрын
John Miller well as what you say is not proven, he wants to talk about facts.
@erichusher9218
@erichusher9218 7 жыл бұрын
There is plenty of evidence of pre-Clovis habitation, just not much predation of megafauna. 'Clovis' is a technology, not a people.
@falsefight
@falsefight 7 жыл бұрын
If the Khoi San can hunt African megafauna, so could any human. The presence of pre-clovis people ~14k years ago would further invalidate the overkill hypothesis
@erichusher9218
@erichusher9218 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure that it 'invalidates' anything, just that pre-Clovis people didn't hunt mega-fauna that we know of as any sort of speciality, though of course there were likely individual situations where the did. Most evidence points to people living along the coasts eating seafood of one sort or another, or deep in the jungles of Brazil. The Clovis technology was specialized to do just one thing; kill mega-fauna
@falsefight
@falsefight 7 жыл бұрын
Thats... actually a reasonable point
@crockerakahops90sjumpmantexas
@crockerakahops90sjumpmantexas 2 жыл бұрын
I once heard that Mammoth wool was found in the ground and used as Barbecue meat
@andy11ink
@andy11ink 6 жыл бұрын
How does an extinct mammal never appear in North America again, unless re-introduced later on?..how can something that is extinct (doesn't exist anymore) get re-introduced at a later time??????? Serious question, and I want a serious answer!!!!
@squatch545
@squatch545 6 жыл бұрын
In the case of the horse, he means extinct from North America.
@21LAZgoo
@21LAZgoo 2 жыл бұрын
werent the first clovis people 13400 years old
@graemewight2975
@graemewight2975 2 жыл бұрын
Quite a lot of Ads.
@stitchem7
@stitchem7 4 жыл бұрын
The extinction may have been caused by diseases released when the ice age melted and released the microbes that had been dormant long enough for many species to loose immunity to them.
@ruthamos2312
@ruthamos2312 3 жыл бұрын
That is a very interesting thought, thank you. A microbiome frozen in place for tens of thousands of years certainly would present as a new set of organisms. I wonder if anybody is doing research along that line? We are just recently beginning to understand and research the microbiomes. Again, very interesting theory.
@raykinney9907
@raykinney9907 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruthamos2312 Yes, and now we are becoming much more aware of pandemic pathophysiology, and not just in humans. Immune system naiveté could play into extinctions, and just look to how European diseases devastated vast numbers of the first peoples cultures that had existed here post clovis, to get a better sense of such widespread pathogenic population decline rapidly. Think about how much indigenous oral history knowledge transfer was wiped out suddenly, and how that harmed the people that managed to survive.
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 2 жыл бұрын
There were many ice age melts exactly the same as this one during the last few hundred thousand years where the same animals made it out just fine. What caused those microbes in the last melt? I’ve wondered this myself though
@Moronvideos1940
@Moronvideos1940 7 жыл бұрын
I downloaded this Thank you
@BarracudaBoy
@BarracudaBoy 2 жыл бұрын
The date for humans in America has been pushed back recently to 23,000 years ago. So I'm still betting on human predation. That and the fact that the mega fauna in Australia also disappeared when humans hit the ground makes it seem fairly obvious why they died out. Especially when the animals had survived so many prior warming and cooling cycles before.
@sasquatchlives4261
@sasquatchlives4261 2 жыл бұрын
How long has Sasquatch existed in North America?
@donnavorce8856
@donnavorce8856 2 жыл бұрын
Watch some of the geocosmic rex vids here on YT.
@stuartphilips5008
@stuartphilips5008 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t tell the presenter !!! Probably it’ll be pushed back a fair bit more too…. He’s wasted his entire career promoting “Clovis first” because, well, everyone knows they were the first inhabitants. It’s one of the most embarrassing episodes in the field of scientific discovery. They literally DIDN’T BOTHER digging deeper 🤦🏼‍♂️ they were so wrapped up in what they knew that they forgot to look for anything else 😳
@dwightehowell8179
@dwightehowell8179 6 жыл бұрын
Um bone point he talked about has been reported to be bison bone. If correct I do think that creates a problem for his hypothesis. I am also aware of mass kill sites of Long horned bison. No question about it. Time Team America did a show about it. Osage orange and one kind of locust have nasty thorns. There is also a location in CA where the sides of a very large stone has been rubbed smooth at a height that limits the options to Imperial Mammoth.
@nwofoe2866
@nwofoe2866 2 жыл бұрын
who came up with all these animals? Gotta have a chat with Him someday for reconciliation of conflicting time lines.
@garyavey7929
@garyavey7929 5 жыл бұрын
How did all the Mammoths get in siberia and not rot and if it was a permafrost how did they chissel themselve into the permafrost?How did they get there unless by flood.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 5 жыл бұрын
It seems that Siberia was mostly free of ice until the YD, and most mammoths found weren't positioned to indicate that they died in floods, but rather froze or suffocated to death.
@garyavey7929
@garyavey7929 5 жыл бұрын
@@slappy8941 Most Mammoths and other animals are buried in mud and people are tunneling through the mud to find Mammoth tusks which they sell ,all sorts of other animals are found including Tiger cubsand other animals that were living in a temperate climate before they were buried then frozen,and as is suggested by the name are in permafrost since that time.This all agrees with a global flood described in Genesis.There are many other places around the world where animals and fish have been buried in a global flood.
@somedude9528
@somedude9528 3 жыл бұрын
In places like Alaska the thawing summer muck slides down hills, slowly burying animal bodies. This is how Alaska's mammoth mummies preserve. Something similar might've happened in Russia.
@garyavey7929
@garyavey7929 3 жыл бұрын
@@somedude9528 Completely wrong as usual how did all the animals across Siberia get buried and frozen after it being a warmer climate ,what gave the sudden change in temperature ? only the fall of the water canopy that used to exist in the thermosphere.SIMPLES.
@janjohnsonamarillas3386
@janjohnsonamarillas3386 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was excellent thank you !
@k.t.ingram375
@k.t.ingram375 4 жыл бұрын
i'd like to know what happened to Cape Island on your map, i guess who ever made that map has never studied geography, lol
@MrChosenmarine
@MrChosenmarine 3 жыл бұрын
He said the Ice age lasted 2.5 million years ago to 10000 years ago, but it hasn't actually ended. The last major glaciation ended 10000 years ago. We're in an interglacial period of the same ice age. There's still ice sheets on the poles today, thus, it's still an ice age.
@idunusegoogleplus
@idunusegoogleplus 2 жыл бұрын
Don't think presence of ice at poles is how ice ages are defined.
@MrChosenmarine
@MrChosenmarine 2 жыл бұрын
@@idunusegoogleplus How would you define it?
@idunusegoogleplus
@idunusegoogleplus 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrChosenmarine glaciers would have to cover far more than just the poles, with vastly more land covered with ice except the warmest equatorial/tropical regions. So no we are not in an ice age, in fact we are much warmer now than 10000 years ago and thus why we can have widescale agriculture. If we were in an ice age most farms would have frozen crops in Europe.
@zenolachance1181
@zenolachance1181 2 жыл бұрын
re-watched this today, I was a little upset about some of his facts, but seeing how it is 6years old I believe I can overlook small inconsistencies with what they teach today
@twstf8905
@twstf8905 3 жыл бұрын
The answer, "We Don't Know" may drive people nuts lol but that's completely separate from whether or not it's true. Sometimes, usually, the most HONEST answer is; "I don't know." Pretending we do inserts a placeholder, at the very least, in the answer spot. Which stunts further examination, especially the amount of examination some topics deserve. That's why it's ALWAYS better to admit when we don't know an answer, despite how "nuts" it drives us, because it keeps that spot as open as possible for everyone to continuously try to fill with open, honest investigation.
@raykinney9907
@raykinney9907 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and that is what scientific method is. But even scientists are human, and subject to confirmation bias degrees and funding biases that can be strong inducers of denial of the vast amount of mystery that we just don't know yet. As usual, assumptions abound, but many are false summits on the path ahead.
@iambodybuildingyt221
@iambodybuildingyt221 3 жыл бұрын
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@iambodybuildingyt221 3 жыл бұрын
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@iambodybuildingyt221 3 жыл бұрын
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@Smason432
@Smason432 2 жыл бұрын
54:45 snorts of derision- as noted by professor Randall Carlson
@ericschmuecker348
@ericschmuecker348 Жыл бұрын
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