V8 Swapped Miata vs Ford Mustang GT Drag Race & Roll Race

Thanks to Sarasota Super Sport Performance (3SP) for sponsoring this video. Go to ( www.sarasotasupersport.com ) to learn more about 3SP's performance packages for the current generation (ND) Mazda Miata!
( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! You wouldn't exactly call the Mazda Miata a star drag racing car, considering it's set up for handling and agility above all else. But what happens when you swap a rip snorting V8 under the hood? That's a different story, as Tommy and Kase find out drag racing this LS-swapped Miata against the brand-new 2024 Ford Mustang GT and our equally new Porsche 911 Targa 4S!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Intro
0:25 First drag race: V8 Ford Mustang GT vs V8 Miata
3:38 More on the 3SP's V8 Miata
10:22 Drag Race #2
12:31 Bringing in the equalizer: The Porsche 911 Targa 4S
16:02 Porsche vs. V8 Miata drag race
18:29 Roll race: Porsche vs. V8 Miata
20:07 Closing thoughts
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Thanks to Sarasota Super Sport Performance (3SP) for sponsoring this video. Go to ( www.sarasotasupersport.com ) to learn more about 3SP's performance packages for the current generation (ND) Mazda Miata!

[@NWI_Steel]

I didnt catch "V8" in the title, clicked on it, and was so confused what tommy was driving 😂

[@SkyyMi]

A V8 go kart with a full interior with a Vin and Plates. I mean what more could you want in life

[@Pilot545]

A Porsche, apparently.

[@NycX360]

@@Pilot545 Exactly! I'd like to see it vs a 718 now

[@Kclerie]

A LS swap with a curb of 2790lbs, and 50/50 is insane.

[@gofetchdesignllc2235]

Hate to sound like THAT guy, but it's the most impressive part of buying something like a used c5z or c6z. 3080 or under with zero weight reduction, 50/50 and a FAR more capable chassis. Even a regular coupe isn't far off and its not difficult at all getting them to 2800-2900 lbs. I was very close to LS swapping my last but the smart money is on the vette. That said, the experience in a car like that is pretty non trivial. I've driven many cobras, own a blown vette and a viper but an LS3 Miata would be an entirely different animal.

[@92rednotch]

Not 50/50 anymore. As a GM guy, I love the LS, but the swaps are tired.

[@Arcaged]

@@gofetchdesignllc2235 also its 2790lbs with everything in it, and it's 51/49 like he said, there is room to lose some weight, a vette striped won't have that weight distribution and at the end of the day you lose the sleeper factor. do this swap in a ST miata and you lose another 160lbs, and you still have a modern car with a decent interior, options...

[@BrHH772]

@@gofetchdesignllc2235 well the reason old corvettes are comparable in weight is due to old chassis and body being less safer than modern cars by a lot. plus unterior is a garbage, and cutting it out wouldn't exactly be the correct comparison. my c7 gs 1lt with forged wheels, full unterior is ~3400 lbs. That car would be more or less comparable to ND miata in terms of safety/modern interior. And soft top v8 Miata would be 750 lbs lighter... but c7 gs would cost you just ~60k, which is way less than 100k Miata

[@Cloud30000]

That Miata is one of the few cars that actually needs a big rear spoiler to have any hope of utilizing the full power

[@Cloud30000]

I would love to see that Miata with giant summer race slicks and a spoiler, then rematch the 911 to see the difference.

[@trixkid27]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@williamgentry3427]

Spoilers are for turns, not street cars in a straight line. 11’s in nowhere near fast enough to need a wing for straights.

[@thesaltysergeant4103]

I was going to say this as well. It would make it ohh so much better. !!!

[@propertypreparedness6846]

Love seeing a guy who gets to live out his passion. We all should aspire to do that.

[@chiemekaa]

Most impressive is shoehorning a 6.2L V8 inside a Miata!

[@NBSV1]

That’s why LS swaps are so common. Old style pushrod engine makes them more compact. I’d like to do one with a short stroke LS built for high rpm. You don’t really need the high torque in a light car so making it a high rpm screamer would be fun.

[@_shreyash_anand]

@@NBSV1 A screamer LS Miata with 650-700hp? I'd pay for that

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

It's physically not that crazy large. The 5.0 Coyote is a physically larger engine

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

There is a guy in Texas that drag races an electric Miata that he built for under 20k with forklift batteries and motors. He is running in the 8 second quarter mile now...

[@arachniawebz6176]

Yep... almost 100K for this Miata is quite pricey, IMO.

[@AceCyberstarGaming]

“Should have a 2 Liter Naturally Aspirated Squirrel underneath the hood “ 😂

[@mikeyc8139]

$100,000 Mazda after car+mods is not really my thing but hey, the Miata crew... maybe.

[@AmericanDuck]

If they brought the price down about $40k, you’d have a tons of these on the road. Great idea, but executed to a ridiculous price point.

[@dub88acc]

I think thats the point. Considering a Lotus Emira with 400+ hp and even a cayman gt4 are all north of 100k. So this is around that ballpark. You're paying for someone else doing the research and putting in the sweat in order for you to daily drive it.

[@spcneary]

@@dub88accvery true, people try to put these in the same box as a stock Miata or a mustang GT, it’s so much more than that. Honestly what a value, if I had 100k-140k to buy a fun car and already owned a a daily and a pickup this would be in my top 3. I used to work at a Mazda dealer, the RF is a very good car from the factory and much more worthy of a v8 than older models.

[@AmericanDuck]

@@dub88acc I understand what you mean, but this is not a Porsche or Lotus. Much of the engineering has already been accomplished by Mazda and Flyin’ Miata. The cost and labor of the parts is at a premium. There is no reason to buy this car if you can get those cars with loan and a full warranty or a lease. It’s a very expensive novelty otherwise that most people that enjoy Miatas are going to balk at. If you undercut those cars with a better price, then you’ve got a great opportunity to make even more money because of a value that will increase the company’s profits through volume. Everyone wins. Maybe they are doing it that way, but it doesn’t seem like it.

[@carlospacheco8640]

@@dub88acc Audi RS3 and a BMW M2 are 400hp+ and both cost less than $70k. Even the new Supra which is a 2 seater sports car has almost 400hp and costs $60k. Plus, these are all brand new prices with warranties and 0 miles on the chassis and engines. The price for this Miata is too expensive. But to each their own.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

That's never happening unless the partner with GM or something.

[@Cloud30000]

I would definitely get myself in a lot of trouble with that Miata.

[@impurfekt]

That Miata needs an exorcist.

[@AceCyberstarGaming]

V8 Miata sounds epic!!!

[@larrycuritsjr7289]

Guys, I appreciate that you got on with the drag race right away! You filled all the info in the middle & finished up with an additional race. Awesome pacing of video!

[@ScoobyFermentation]

Nice write-off for Roman’s personal $150k Porsche 911.

[@phillyhump]

So, the way I understood it was $75,000 on top of the price of the car. Lol. So over 100,000 for Miata? A MIATA!?!?

[@tealchief]

twenty bucks this guy own a pig fat american car.

[@user-jw1fp8vl8e]

SWEET! thanks' for keeping these alive

[@MidwestMotor]

I WAS SO looking forward to watching this video but after the very first 10 seconds I'M OUTTA HERE!!!!! The SCREACHING man imploded my head!

[@dannyphamous]

Really fun and amazing review!

[@joyroc885]

Remember seeing one of these on The smoking tire channel a while back. I wanted one then and I still want one now. lol

[@justinstiff5641]

Naturally aspirated squirrel 🐿️🐿️🐿️🐿️ hahaha 🤣

[@LeslieGreenberg]

Stang runs 12.4_115. Stock. Meata. 11.26._123...any questions ????

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Seems about right but idk how easy it's gonna hook up. No traction control on the car

[@dougpendleton1266]

Great job guys!!!

[@lokinocmrperfaq4two175]

Wht about driver safety features like tracion n stability, do they work?

[@wackit6756]

Geez, you would think they would put the top on in the Miata to reduce drag, seems like a no brainer for better acceleration times.

[@bryaninnc5511]

Awesome video! Reminds me of the Scarab Z cars

[@dannykennedy5885]

Love this content!

[@GTStuning-]

I've tuned a few older Miatas as well as 350z and FR-S cars with 6 speed LS swaps. Super fun combo

[@markspence3750]

That is alot of work to put a Camaro rear diff in that car. That's almost more work than the crate engine....

[@ctbtyper]

Tommy's reaction in the drag race made my day! :D

[@MrDinodane]

That car is awesome. Love the sound

[@Davepq100]

The way the Miata should be with at least an Ecoboost 4 or a 6 cylinder

[@Nellie-H]

Great job! Sarasota my hometown! His location is actually in Bradenton 😉

[@sombut415]

That’s hella krazy! So badazz!

[@_Chev_Chelios]

He said that engine has a cam… That is incredible.

[@dustinleonard3408]

you guys must have never heard of the Monster Miata's from back in the 90's...

[@cup_and_cone]

Would have liked to know what the 0-60 and 1/4 figures were.

[@MrCarGuy23]

Why do all these car channels use the slower 6 speed mustang when they race against other cars

[@ihvthn-yfxefv]

I wish miata was available in my country

[@jeffreybalandra8891]

Now that’s a nice little fun car to drift

[@WaveManMike]

They should do this to a Lotus!

[@nickmorris9383]

They did....it's called Hennessey venom f5, currently the fastest production car in the world and has driven over 300mph!.....they started out using lotus cars, now though, I think all production is done complete in house with carbon fiber.

[@GODEYE270115]

Never thought I’d see a miata that actually looks intimidating The fact that it hooks off the line is nuts

[@TheLuis1108]

Dont know who these guys are or anything about them but I loved this video lol it was awesome also I think the guy that owns a Miata should send it to the Florida guy to get it built and show us lol it would be sick

[@stevenarseneault1972]

What if you launched the Miata in 2nd gear? Should hook up with low torque then max HP in high rpms.

[@davidholcomb9961]

That car is wild!

[@weegeemike]

I would LOVE to own one of these...im sure theyre at least $60k, dude has a LOT of parts and labor involved in a build like this.

[@herbwheeler4470]

I'd be happy with a GM 3.8 V6 turbo in the Miata. As long as it's manual.

[@chrism869]

that v8 miata is something else

[@jamesonpace726]

Ok, now that's the dern coolest sleeper, ever....

[@billnorblat4047]

Thank you for actually launching the Targa! So frustrating to watch Roman just roll the throttle on.

[@TFLcar]

Roman says he does that just to piss you off🤔

[@Roddy451]

I lived in a place where engine swapping was very common. The craziest ones I watched were a Volvo 240DL with a big-block V8 and a Suzuki Forsa with a 1.8 Toyota engine. Needless to say, the Miata is my cup of tea.

[@NycX360]

That PDK gearbox in the Porsche!

[@markspence3750]

I just watched "Ford v Ferrari" and I have always wondered why nobody makes a modern version of the AC Cobra with a roof, preferably with a 289, not a 427. Kit cars are one thing, but a factory-built car would be awesome.

[@aluminumfalcon552]

He looked like he was going to throw up with excitement that first run.

[@rogerj412]

People have been stuffing V8's in Miatas since the NA was brought to the US. It's still a hell of car though.

[@kwjr.9569]

Love that miata. Wow.

[@BigAl22]

Love when you guys do modded stuff!! That's when the Toyotas especially get really fun 😎😎

[@tfcooks]

If I had that car I'm sure I'd get myself killed... but I'd die happy. 😁

[@grpptuning281]

Tommy is definitely an ls guy now lol

[@SolveFixBuild]

I wonder if a Whipple would fit under the Miata’s hood. 🤔

[@NBSV1]

The small/medium ones would. Seen a few with centrifugal superchargers too.

[@SolveFixBuild]

@@NBSV1 wow that would be an incredible experience driving one. Probably 600-ish hp.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

Miata has the Heartbeat of America but that German engineering 🏁

[@_Chev_Chelios]

Damn, the curly head guy really isn’t cut out for driving performance cars. Looks like s/he pooped from a 14 second quarter mile! 🤣🤣🤣 Then rayban uses the word “fierce”… I held back an embarrassment barf.

[@sbklvr]

Pretty awesome Miata, wondering if maybe a turbo Kswap would be a better route, less weight, .more room for activities. How about the 911 running low 12s , a mile up. That rear motor set up has all the grip. Geeat video, guys.

[@bendito7417]

Why Tommy didnt raced with the top up? Its was removed to save weight?👀😎

[@vinnie460w2]

He said dragstrip😂😂😂

[@ewoggerts]

He had the roof off its pretty much a giant parachute.

[@tilmonr]

Why didn't they use the automatic GT they used to compare the manual GT to?

[@mistersecret88]

Cause makes too much sense

[@kenjiwenji]

​​@@mistersecret88Exactly! They make some really dumb decisions on this channel. That blue GT ran a 13.89 at 109. It would've hung with that Miata.

[@dmart29]

Never thought I’d say this…that Miata sounds so good 👌

[@Eklectic1]

A wild third party engineered Miata-Vette is still no match for Porsche's precision passion.

[@carlmanu]

It’s a modern day Shelby Cobra!

[@1FiftyOverland]

Tommy, you dont have to be so dramatic FFS. Lol

[@mistersecret88]

Scream like a little girl dude

[@KZ-se4ik]

yeah, 13.6@114 is not exactly take your breath away acceleration...

[@dub88acc]

​@KZ-se4ik its the exhilaration of driving basically a mini corvette. He's driven a model 3 perf and has shown less enthusiasm. Goes to show you its not all about straight line speed. As he stated "its unhinged and raw "

[@Darren-su2gm]

So it only wieghs 2879 pounds costs over $100 k and is a little faster than a stock $50 k mustang.I still would go with the mustang Gt.I also like that there is more room in the mustang and a back seat area.

[@gaivoron]

How tall his Tommy?

[@mistersecret88]

Three foot five

[@djsnoopmike]

The Miata sounding like a Corvette is breaking my brain

[@thebagnechannel3183]

Can a Fiat 124 Spider be converted? It’s basically an ND Miata.

[@KZ-se4ik]

They said no. Different computer architecture and they don't have the electronics to make the GM computer work with stellantis stuff.

[@andrebrooks9719]

The 5.2 from the GT350 would be a great idea

[@MrBillsfishin]

I think that block might be to wide for the Miata engine bay. Those Coyote motors are pretty huge compared to an LS.

[@stephbarbershop2518]

I haven't seen Tommy in a while and all of a sudden he looks more like his dad.

[@killakam123321]

Still couldn't justify spending 100k+ on a miata

[@chandleredwards]

Sweet modern version of a Shelby. Maybe find a Miata EV AWD conversion to compare. This Miata looks to be a blast to drive.

[@canalesivany]

Tfl need to try automatic 10 mustang

[@bm9074]

Nice!!!!!!!

[@PsgamingliveMistaT]

I have a V8 swap miata in gt7 also, Monster of a car.

[@dtruth5769]

I own a Miata. And love it. Even with the V8, you can't compare it to having a Cobra SC. Imo

[@antartorres7594]

Power to weight ratio. 😂 that is the answer

[@electric8668]

The Miata's aerodynamics suffered due to the missing roof which creates a parachute effect hindering top speed.

[@absoluteclownworld]

The NC ( previous generation ) miata 6 speed would hold that power I'm sure.. but ya the ND trans is definitely not gunna cut it here lol.

[@TevinWeatherspoon]

The automatic mustang would've had a better chance but that miata is insane!!!!!

[@gage5650]

The v8 Miata is cool AF but I'd rather buy a used Porsche 991 or 992 for the same money and retain a decent resale value. What's the resale value of an LS swapped Miata in 5 -10 years? Probably not great.

[@ALMX5DP]

I dont think you should buy for resale. Buy for smiles and enjoyment with a plan to keep it for as long as you can work a wheel and a clutch pedal.

[@lowtunedg9211]

The 10 speed Auto smokes the 6 speed

[@Tony-hf9mv]

When you truly think about it the miata with a big engine would be a modern Shelby Cobra

[@InvestBetter.]

A V8 Miata? There's love in the room.... I live in Miami, and drive a C7 Z06 with a 7-speed, so this is right up my alley

[@Gbus85302]

Tommy just became a man in this Video 😂

[@luisbarraza9709]

When we getting the 911 series? Ordering, Delivery video, full review, etc. I know it’s Roman dream car. We are fan of TFL ans Roman let’s share in his joy.

[@spartanchirho]

If they brought that car all the way put I hope Paul gets to take it around the track!!!

[@relentlessenterprises9238]

Pretty badass! Sucks it's still a miata lol

[@redtesta]

LS3's are monsters. Very cool what was done but $75k is pretty steep. Just sayin.

[@anthonysourdiff1835]

The Miata should be called muscle car killer.

[@johnraygun9868]

I've never been much of a Miata person but the last few years i started thinking it could be fun but this, this i could 100% have fun in lol now that i am retired from the army the cogs are starting to turn :D i have a naked bike with 200+hp and 150ftlb of torque that weighs 400lbs wet with no rider aids but i am 45 now so maybe this would be more mature of me lol

[@VictorPitstop]

That’s all the Miata is, fun. You should at least drive one.

[@BrHH772]

there is no 400lbs wet 200 hp naked on the market, never was What bike are you referring to?

[@datN.O.Colombiano]

That V8 blew his back out!!