Vaccines: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

[@susanpetty1036]

I was born in 1951. The measles vaccine wasn’t developed until 1963. I got measles as did many of my friends. One friend ended up with heart damage and another went deaf. So you bet my kids were vaccinated on schedule. For everything.

[@TheAlps36]

Everyone should read this testimony

[@LocoCoyote]

@J Paterson How much of that is verifiably true? How much is based on what you think happened? My point being, has anyone truly investigated this to verify you have the facts right? My guess is no...

[@gothontheinsidegaffeontheo3305]

@J Paterson let's say it was the measles. you unfortunately were part of that 2-3% of children who still get measles after being vaccinated. sorry, that's better than the 97-98% chance of getting measles for children who didn't get vaccinated. plus vaccines also help reduce the severity of measles, so if you didn't get the vaccine, there could have been a chance that you went blind instead.

[@scorpogee6280]

@J Paterson You're correct in your statements. I can verify this because I was born in 1950 and acquired measles. I remember being quarantined to my bedroom in the dark to protect my vision. I also remember polio and standing in line for the series of shots to protect me. I remember a friend being in an iron lung to keep him alive. You parents that don't vaccinate your children need to see the results of what happens when you don't protect your children from these diseases. I have seen it. Maybe you need to go back in time to see what the results are.

[@SAdams1996]

My mom was born in '55. When she was in the second grade she got German Measels followed immediately by mumps on both sides.. She barely survived so you can bet that I got vaccinated.

[@sushiwife429]

I remember my science teacher used to wear a shirt that said: Got Polio? Me neither. Thanks science!

[@RobWright1981]

Your teacher mustn't have been a fan of punctuation.

[@ExperiencedGhost]

Strange, I don't have polio neither and I'm even not vaccinated!

[@americantacos7618]

@@ExperiencedGhost damn you're lucky

[@jjlortez]

@@americantacos7618 Don't worry they will be dead before they can make that mistake with there own kids.

[@catkin-z8g]

they changed the diagnostic criteria and polio vanished (into AFP) thereby providing the "scientific" basis for all the vaccines under the sun.

[@taruthemenace]

Should you feed your children? I mean there's so much information out there, and where can you find a truly unbiased source?

[@danielschroedinger2090]

According to the food industry, you should feed your children. What a surprise.

[@provolonefatboy5875]

@@danielschroedinger2090 according to the anti-food industry. Nothing, they all died about a week ago from starvation. What a surprise

[@DeeJayFM]

F

[@saintstorm7]

What a stupid comparison lol very child like

[@taruthemenace]

@@saintstorm7 Someone's in the pocket of Big Food.

[@berryberrykixx]

When I was in elementary school, a new kid came to our class. We were all told in class his name, where he came from, and what he was going through. He was fighting an aggressive leukemia, and in order to keep him healthy and allowed to play and work along side with us, we had to wear paper masks and wash our hands according to the bell (she had an alarm clock set on her desk for it). If we did not feel well, tell our parents before coming to school, and if we had a fever, arrangements would be made if we were unable to stay home. This was also sent home and had to be signed by our parents and at Open House it was re-explained to everyone at once so we all understood. Everybody followed the rules. He stayed healthy (and beat it, he is 38 years old today). Nobody complained. End of story. What the hell happened to common decency in the USA?

[@whiteraven181]

I think erosion of empathy and community as cultural values with the increasing entitlement and self-centeredness of those reassured and validated by (often but not always online) echo-chambers happened. The wave of xenophobic jingoism that never fully receded following the events of September 11th and increasing political extremism (mostly on one side, lets be honest) and modern social media's ability to filter out dissenting voices when socializing sort of made it inevitable. Or it could be the naturally de-empathizing effects of late-stage capitalism and constant access to crushing news, meaning empathy for other people will swiftly drain and eventually break you if you don't just sort of emotionally shut off after a certain point. Maybe it's the endless stream of extremist, "we're always under attack," "It's Us vs Them," news that a large portion of the country is constantly seeing? It could have been the heartbreaking realization that if the for-sure-not-Nazi's 'hypothetically' started coming for minorities in our "better, modern, free country" fewer of the people we knew and believed in would have stood up and fought and more would have sold out their minority neighbors than we ever wanted to believe. Maybe it's all of them? It's probably all of them. A lot of things happened to common decency in the US. It's almost a surprise we don't have open and proud Neo-Nazi rallies openly in the streets more often. We've already gotten really into lynchings again though, so give it some time.

[@cruisepaige]

There is much less sense of “ for the greater good”

[@axa3687]

Individualism tends to make everyone more selfish over time. Look at all the billionaires in the country, while millions in poverty and suffering.

[@WhiskeyPlease-xq3ru]

“Freedom”

[@nerdygoth1688]

Unfortunately, I don’t think “common” decency is all that common.

[@lilypearl1773]

My brother was fully vaccinated by my step father from day one and has had maybe a dozen minor illnesses and has never been hospitalised. I on the other hand was never vaccinated, I was a lotus birth and I was breastfed till I was four, I've had tonsilitis, 2 lung infections(because my mother refused to believe that I needed antibiotics), chicken pox, endometriosis, and a dozen major issues over the years, including being hospitalised as a 2yo baby because I got a cut that my mother never cleaned or managed because it "had to heal naturally" and it turned into a major infection that almost killed me. Vaccinate your damn kids.

[@maygreen5653]

Lily Moore one more time for the antivaxxers in the back!

[@Inzykinz]

Wait... As a totally pro vaccine person who is genuinely curious, do we vaccinate for chicken pox now instead of making our 5 year old kids play with other kids who have chicken pox so we don't get it when we're older even though apparently after some time shingles can come up anyway???

[@maygreen5653]

Ash because 1. Chicken pox is ridiculously contagious 2. Shingles usually only pops up after you’ve had chicken pox in the past, there are some cases where you could develop one and not the other, but that’s up to how you’re exposed. The simple answer is vaccinate for chicken pox and tell people who have chicken pox or shingles to see a doctor and try to keep others unexposed. :)

[@lilypearl1773]

Yes we vaccinate because it guarantees(99% of the time anyway) that the child is immune. My sisters had chicken pox when they were 7 and 3, I, despite hanging around with them and sharing a bunk bed, didn't get chicken pox until i was 18 looking after my partners nephew who had it - and my symptoms as an 18yo were way worse than my sisters(I almost wound up in hospital because I couldn't breathe). Chicken pox is way worse for adults that children and far more dangerous.

[@itskema5975]

Judith Bellantoni Why even go to the doctor if you don't want to vaccinate? You believe in medicine when it benefits you. You legit are ignoring medicinal opinions 90 percent of the time, but think antibiotics are okay for when you have ouchies. Hopefully your kids ouchies aren't the ones that result in long hospital stays because the way herds are set up today especially in some cities your kids are bound to get something that results in a hospital stay if you live around people with the same ideas as you.

[@Spyderredtoo]

I had polio two years before the vaccine was available. It took nearly two years for me to learn to walk again without crutches. My cousin, ill at the same time, never got out of a wheelchair and became a recluse. I cannot even recall being able to run. To think that there are people calling themselves parents who would intentionally be okay with this possibility for their children, who cannot protect themselves from their parents.

[@thegamelabgaming7556]

Spyderred wow, I’m incredibly sorry for you. It’s crazy to think that a disease that did this to tens of thousands of kids a year was eradicated with some science juice in a needle. Again I’m sorry this happened to you

[@Spyderredtoo]

TheGameLab /gaming there wasn’t any vaccine then. It came two years later. I only mention it because there are people who seize on a discredited paper by a man who manipulated the results to not vaccinate their children against polio, measles and the rest. I want what I experienced to end with my generation and never cripple anyone again.

[@thegamelabgaming7556]

Spyderred I know there wasent a vaccine, I’m just saying it was crazy how quickly polio went from being a major problem to something we think about less then McDonald’s

[@lclass003]

My grandparents met working at a hospital for kids who had polio. I will get every vaccine I can. Except I almost died from the flu shot, went into full anaphylaxis and it is by grace I didn’t die, as 20 year old at a campus flu shot clinic. 4 allergy doctors have tried to analyze it, and are too concerned about how rapidly I react to test different things I might be allergic to. I still will get OTHER vaccines for exactly the reason you point out. I am so sorry at the heavy toll polio took on your family, and so grateful you spoke up on this. I am in self quarantine until there is a reliable COVD 19 vaccine. Even then, I have to get it at an allergy clinic or somewhere that is near a hospital. If I could have prevented chicken pox, I would have. My kids are my fur babies, and they get inoculated on everything. Though when they hit 7 I start asking for titers...story for another day. Polio, diphtheria, measles, whooping cough, all completely preventable, IF people vaccinate their kids. I had to trust that we have disinfected things enough, pre COVID 19. Now it is this too shall pass.

[@thegamelabgaming7556]

Lara Snider yeah, the flu shot is a tricky one. The thing with the flu is there’s so many strains so they kinda have to guess what shot to give you.

[@krisaaron5771]

Measles survivor here. It went through our neighborhood in 1955, and nobody was particularly sick except for me. 105F fevers for two days cooked my eyes and cost me permanent vision degradation, my hair fell out and I was left with hearing distortion that is crippling when I'm tired or distracted. No measles vax existed back then; we'd just gotten the Salk vax and were thrilled to have it. Several kids in my town were permanently crippled and one died, thanks to polio. I honestly don't understand how loving parents can allow their children to go through the hell of contagious diseases that our great grandparents would have sold their souls for. Visit an old cemetery and look at the little headstones. You won't often see just one; they're clustered in groups of three, four and sometimes five or six, all with dates a few days apart. These were someone's children, and they all died around the same time of the same thing: infections disease. It's not something to screw around with. Seriously.

[@yeflynne]

you are not allowed to criticize the experimental chemicals. you must inject.

[@eeeaten]

@@yeflynne you are not allowed to criticize the experimental seat belts. you must click.

[@R41Ryan]

@@jasryl661 while I can understand the worry here, keep in mind that chance of death by vaccine is still just a speck when compared to the chance of death by the diseases they were created for, like measles and polio, among others. The reason you might be seeing more reports of death by vaccines than by those diseases is because the vast majority of parents are vaccinating their kids, and it's working. Because the rate of those disease dropped, there is also a much lower rate of death by those diseases. Thus, there is a much lower rate of death by diseases and far fewer reported incidents. When put into context, vaccines save more lives than they take. Quick Edit: I remember watching a video from a source that I trust that explains this much better than I do, and more. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHPOh3aml7Ohobc

[@jasryl661]

@R41Ryan Here’s the thing about Measles. There is nothing to back up the CDC’s scary statistic that a child, infected with Measles, has a 1 in 1,000 risk of dying. Not in any of the developed countries with proper sanitation. We haven’t had any year with no Measles outbreak. They don’t always get the media recognition of the Disney outbreak. But, how many deaths are we seeing? Certainly not 1 in 1,000. It’s concerning to me that society is so willing to accept deaths from vaccines for what they perceive to be the greater good. Yet, they criticize people for demanding safer vaccines. Why? Did you know that Japan uses an MMR that doesn’t contain aborted fetal cells? Or, that other first world countries have a much less demanding vaccine schedule than the U.S.? For example, the U.S. is the only developed country that mandates a Hep B at birth. The Measles used to be laughed at on shows like the Flintstones and the Brady Bunch back before the media was owned by Pharma giants. Also, we have had Measles and Mumps outbreaks among vaccinated individuals. The effects wear off. This is why the CDC is now recommending another MMR booster for adults.

[@R41Ryan]

​@@jasryl661 As I have said in my last post, the reason that we do not have a measles outbreak in any of the developed countries is because those countries have been vaccinating and successfully preventing people from getting infected. As a result, the cases for measles becomes less and less common, and so is the death rate from them. (although sanitation does contribute it as well, it doesn't prevent it alone since, for example, measles is airborne) This is also the reason why we see more reports of deaths from a vaccines, and comparing that with reports from measles can make it seem like it's more common, and thus, more dangerous. Though, I could not find the CDC's claim for that 1-in-1000 risk. Now, I do not live in the US so I do not know the experience of going through their vaccine scheduling. Here in Canada though, I remember growing up that I had to take up to 2-3 vaccines at a time every 2-3 years. In addition, vaccines for the most deadly diseases (like measles) are publicly funded. This is neither a rebuttal nor an affirmation, but just a foreign perspective. Also, keep in mind on how a vaccine physically works. It takes advantage of the human body's immune system and how it can "remember" diseases it encounters through memory T-cells. The vaccine would contain either a dead or weakened version of the disease so that the immune system can identify the antigens, thereby making it react faster to the real disease when it encounters them before they do any real damage. As a final note, I acknowledge that I am not an authority on this topic. Although, at the same time, neither are you. I won't post anymore beyond this because frankly, this is the internet; there is no way either of us are going to change our minds here. Though, I will say that if you truly are skeptical of the status quo and want the truth, don't just look for trusted sources, but from many, diverse sources. If they all agree to the same thing, then you know that it's a universal truth.

[@mr.platypusgaming]

I love how this is relevant again because human stupidity is an endless cycle of hell.

[@late8641]

Yeah, it seems like human stupidity is the only thing we have an endless supply of.

[@realzachfluke1]

Fucking _literally though._

[@zenon1o15]

Part of me is convinced that earth is actually a layer of hell and we are all dead and suffering for our sins

[@mikeyfn-a6684]

Tragically comical 🎭

[@MK-xq7yu]

Yea except those diseases and viruses actually have a high mortality rate unlike Covid

[@heyyitsphil2611]

"The human body is a true carnival of horrors, and frankly, I'm embarrassed to have one" this incredible line will not go unnoticed

[@R41Ryan]

The creators of rick and Morty certainly didn't.

[@reflectiononthesea9153]

Sooo funny.. Our body is the most sophisticated nuro energetic machine known - it makes the alapathetic chemical industry look like cave dwellers..

[@reflectiononthesea9153]

The human body is a gift from God and beyond an human brain..

[@biggrocc19]

@@reflectiononthesea9153 um nah, but if you want to think that go for it. I don't mind if your children suffer from your actions. thats on you, my dear.

[@reflectiononthesea9153]

@@biggrocc19 Look - I don't want to see any more damaged children..You must have some idea of the statistics..

[@oscaramador4532]

I didn't like the remarks about fish. Many of them are actually schooled.

[@pathutchison7688]

Looooool. That comment caught me off guard and made coffee come out my nose. Well played sir.

[@maxmedford5344]

Oscar Amador .....God bless you sir! ;D

[@peterlockhart3923]

Yes and some will argue they've just been schooled again

[@ivanramirez9001]

you sir have won the internet today. Bless you.

[@mattragusa210]

I'm angry at how clever that joke is!

[@solongfairwellkim]

Fun fact. The Doctor who invented the vaccine for the polio was this guy 0:27 Jonas Salk. And he chose not to patent the vaccine or seek any profit from it. One interview he was asked 'who owned this patent?' he said: "There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?" Cool dude.

[@gerrygillman9518]

Far cry from today's profiteers, wish there were more like Dr. Jonas Salk to help us out of todays nightmares.

[@CherryBomb_Games]

As much as I love that quote, it also inadvertently implies somebody made the sun lol.

[@connerrock1164]

Neat

[@bgorski6937]

@@CherryBomb_Games umm, god! Duh!

[@awhellyeah12]

It actually wasn’t just him he just took credit

[@mask938]

As someone on the Autism spectrum, I’m insulted that people would rather have their kids die slowly and painfully from preventable illnesses than have them be Autistic.

[@TheAutisticEducator]

I once listened to a baby dying of whooping cough because of people like this. Aren't people stupid to think vaccines cause our autism!

[@kitmillionross]

I’m also autistic. People like this would rather have a dead kid than an autistic one, and that hurts, deeply.

[@J.R8765]

​@@kitmillionrosswhat's their problems with it anyway?

[@mythos2490]

@@J.R8765 Tw: discussion of ableist autistic stereotypes in media A lot of times, especially as it’s portrayed in the media a lot. It’s seen as a huge burden on everyone around. Like the autistic person is (on a good case with this stereotype) awkward and annoying af, or (on a really bad case of this stereotype) is a mentally challenged subhuman that makes the family miserable. So possibly to them, having the possibility of having an autistic child is probably them thinking they’re gonna have a burden on their shoulders their whole life. Like it’s a punishment and something affecting them and not the child. Especially socially since they don’t want the stigma of an autistic child or any disabled child. It’s really fucked and it’s just so ableist and it makes autism sound like a punishment and not just a different way a brain functions.

[@J.R8765]

@@mythos2490 damn, fuck those people

[@quentinbrown9300]

I’m autistic and I can tell you that it’s better than being dead, deaf or blind (I’m just blind to social cues😄) (That is not to say that deaf/blind people are any lesser than others, I MEAN NO OFFENCE)

[@petergershon924]

Saaaaaammmmmmeeeeeeeeee

[@AnnaP-uh3mc]

Quentin Brown Yep, I’ve got 2 gorgeous kids and even if there was a correlation, which of course there isn’t, why are they more scared of autism than death??!! It’s ridiculous and I also find it offensive.

[@MissWhiskers]

I have Asperger's syndrome and while it can be difficult, I prefer that over being dead. =)

[@cats1970]

My sister is autistic and legally blind and would prefer restored sight over erased autism every time

[@pkspalding]

Being on the autism spectrum is, as you say, Quentin, far superior to dead, blind or deaf. Add to that the fact that there is no --ZERO-- proof of any link between autism and vaccines.

[@talynhastime9343]

That immunologist at the end is right: Mothers in industrialized countries have forgotten how good they have it. The only thing stopping their kid from dying is that we have the medicine to prevent it. If you're not going to use it, women in India and Sub-Saharan Africa would be more than willing to take it off your hands.

[@samovarmaker9673]

@vishu singh It's incredibly impressive for a country with such a large territory and over 1 billion people.

[@EdwardHowton]

It's not that mothers in industrialized countries have forgotten how good they have it. Not at all, that's completely wrong. It's that mothers who had children before vaccines saw most of their kids die, so those kids never grew up, never had families, and never existed to say "Yeah no I wouldn't be dead if I'd been vaccinated they're super awesome". In other words, *dead people can't forget OR remember things.* Because they're dead.

[@lhaviland8602]

@vishu singh But Afghanistan and Pakistan aren't because the Taliban tells people that the US distributed vaccines are secretly sterilization drugs.

[@4philipp]

Vaccines save lives. We are horribly overpopulated. Seems like an easy solution.

[@AnnaWalters]

Except that most mothers (like me) do in fact vaccinate so making blanket statements about how stupid mothers are is unhelpful. I know exactly how good we have it, am fully vaccinated myself and have no concerns about vaccinating my baby. Unfortunately a very small number of people is all it takes to damage heard immunity.

[@Maracujakeks]

CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION. What every science student learns in their first month of uni. Thanks John, education is important.

[@Sammy102093]

Not just science. It's the first rule of any statistics class

[@Diamondsnake0]

*what every high school math student learns in their first year. And this is in AMERICA. Adult anti-vaxxers who lack the intelligence of teenagers frustrate me

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

Really? Cause I learned that in highschool and parts of middle school. Then again our school system isn't getting paid enough.... John, I think I found the root of the problem.

[@veronicanoriega9693]

steff i learnt this in the 9th grade

[@RAFMnBgaming]

They learn during their first month of uni, it not necessarily caused by the university.

[@avamasquerade]

"Tiny children are not horses." Well fk, I'm now overwhelmed by the monumental task of having to dismantle my entire tiny kid racing operation..

[@personalaccount707]

I mean it'll still work, change the carrot stick with an iphone at the finish line

[@fan9775]

Throw a ball in, call it ball...ball. And you’ll be fine.

[@skylark1250]

Tiny children are not horses. True or false on Trump’s annual dementia test at the White House

[@honeybabies4476]

🤣🤣🤣

[@gunsandroses896]

Damn. Now I have to cancel my order of child-sized horseshoes.

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

When my mum had me, she was hearing rumours about the MMR jab and autism. However, she had met beautiful, lovely autistic kids, and then met one poor little soul who had become a vegetable because of measles. She looked me in the eye and told me that she would rather it make me autistic, but otherwise happy and healthy than lose my sight, hearing and most control over my limbs.

[@GLaDTheresCake]

Thank God for people like your mum. I have a mild version of Aspergers, and honestly the worst part of this whole debate to me is the debilitating fear people have for their child being autistic. Like it's some sort of death sentence, like they think I'm less than them for some reason. A lot of high functioning Autistic people just think different, they might have trouble with some social things, but they surely aren't stupid or can't handle life. I know I didn't get Aspergers from my vaccines, but even if I did I don't care, it's part of my personality as much as anything else, and definitely not a handicap of any sort in my eyes.

[@siriolsen7805]

Developmental issues is often caused by heavy metal toxicity and can start after a child receives a vaccine, or can be passed through the placenta if the mother has amalgams etc. I would recommend anyone interested to learn more watch the documentary "Vaxxed". And I wanted to let you all know about the Andrew Cutler protocol if you see the need to chelate your child. I would absolutely recommend joining the Facebook group "Fight Autism & Win Detoxing Kids" (for all kids that needs to chelate) that is dedicated to chelating kids safely using this protocol, and there is a lot of helpful and knowledgeable people there. You can also join the adult group "Andy Cutler Chelation: Safe Mercury and Heavy Metal Detox». Some stories of people who chelated their kids with this protocol if you google «cutler success stories» cutlersuccessstories.weebly.com/child-stories.html . But whatever you do, never give your child cilantro, chlorella, glutathione, MSM, ALA not according to the ACC protocol, that has made a lot of people very very sick, please google «andy cutler what not to do» read here cutlersuccessstories.weebly.com/what-not-to-do.html . Wish you all the best.

[@coffeestainedwreck]

@@siriolsen7805 Thanks for sharing your advice out of goodwill. I'd suggest to any readers to also read up on Andrew Cutler and his original publication before making a decision. As with any treatment that's non-standard and rooted in distrust of the medical system, please proceed with caution and maintain your healthy sense of doubt. trove.nla.gov.au/work/34342151?q&versionId=42371647

[@GLaDTheresCake]

@PragmaMasterUrbium While you aren't wrong in that Autism spectrum disorders cause stimuli to be processed later in people with it, it doesn't mean people are slow at thinking. I know loads of people with ASD that are sharp and witty with very quick retorts. But for sure that a kid with Autism is far better than a dead one, it's really not as debilitating as some people seem to want to believe (in a lot of cases, I know people high up on the spectrum are very dependent on help and such).

[@lolomcspanky]

It's so nice (and rare) to hear someone realize how intrinsically uncomfortable it is, as an autistic person, to hear people say they'd rather risk letting their own children and/or others die from the fear that they might be like me. They're wrong, but that's all anyone focuses on, which subtly validates that yes, having an autistic child is worse than a dead one. That kind of thinking certainly doesn't make me wish I were "normal," it's uncomfortably close to eugenics. Like +GLaDTheresCake, I don't think I'm so awful. What troubles I have come far more frequently from intolerant ignorant "normal" people than autism. Anyway, thanks for your refreshing post! Have a good one.

[@bananamanxd3093]

We need to remove car windows, because in most car crashes the cars had windows

[@emperorpapltine8200]

Finally someone whos brave enough to speek out!

[@nickbeckwith8011]

Bread is the real danger - 99.99% of murderers in the western world had eaten bread in the month before they killed!

@@nickbeckwith8011 It's that "Enriched" bread that causes it.

[@hufflepuffbadger2931]

More like, “we need to remove seatbelts, cause in most crashes, the cars had seatbelts”

[@LucasRodrigues-ye3qx]

I just realized, all the people that died from cancer DRANK WATER!

[@nitrosophelin]

I am on the spectrum and hearing Karens push these bs anti-vax narratives that tap into people's prejudice against people with autism on top of lying to others, posing a risk for people to die of long curable diseases is extremely sad and perpetuates dehumanizing attitudes towards those with autism. Edit: I reworded this comment to bring across what I'm trying to say a bit better and to be less ambiguous.

[@eagle-from-aut]

Dude. I am so sorry for those idiots. That is legitimately horrible. I don't even know what to say. Just keep in mind that you these people have no idea

[@erin7818]

Same, It's really saddening when peole think their kid is better off dead than have autism.

[@lukewilliams6083]

They're just willfully ignorant. They don't even research what autism actually is because to them it's the same as Downs Syndrome.

[@PokeMageTech]

Luke Williams When they aren’t even close, or connected. ASD + ADHD isn’t that uncommon a combination, but the two are still separate, even if the combo is more frequent than would be expected.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

I'm not on the spectrum but I've had many friends over the years who were... funny thing about that? They all hate this bs.

[@tabbycatmeow1]

I have autism. Sure it makes some aspects of life more difficult for me and others need more support than I do but it isn’t something that can be “prevented.” Parents shouldn’t blame themselves or anything else for it. They should love and support their child unconditionally to make sure they have a happy and healthy life.

[@nikitatarsov5172]

But then again, parents are most likely neurotypical and can't figure out what is the reason for ther bad feelings and stress, so the kid is the punching bag of ther inability. To my expirience, the worst of autism is that you're magnetic for peoples stress, misbehave, nonsense and anger, which forms your life to be that of a solitary surviver in the jungle under constant threat.

[@flamingfoxx]

​@nikitatarsov5172 I mean autism has a genetic component, so I wouldn't be so sure the parents are neurotypical, but it does go off that deep rooted fear for perfect nuclear families of having a "weird" kid. Anything mental or lifelong is a death sentence for these people

[@jimmyyleee3333]

Ah, fictional propaganda.. these days 😢❤

[@samovarmaker9673]

Kid: "When I grow up -" Anti-vaxx parent: *"Slow down there buckaroo"*

[@ariw9405]

Samovar maker I feel so horrible for laughing out loud at this. Bravo 👏🏽

[@WAW369]

I only had 2 vaccines and somehow I grew up. Maybe if I had the 90 they give kids now, I'd be taller or something.

[@samovarmaker9673]

@@WAW369 I've never heard of anyone who ever got close to 90 vaccines. Fear-inducing exaggeration. 2 was enough for you. Great. Honestly, 0 vaccines can be enough if everyone else around you is fully vaccinated and if the diseases that you aren't vaccinated against don't come anywhere near you. This is why unvaccinated people are called free-riders in herd immunity. However, vaccine-preventable diseases do still arise, meaning that unvaccinated people can contract them, get sick from them and spread them to other unvaccinated people (mostly infants who are too young to be vaccinated or people who are allergic to vaccines - these are really the only acceptable cases for not vaccinating). But I think you know all this. Basically, you're either not unlucky or you can thank your two vaccines.

[@denischungkham6779]

Brilliant dark comedy

[@jasryl661]

@Samovar maker It is actually 74 mandated shots. Many of these are repeat doses or boosters for the same vaccine. So, it's 16 vaccines and 74 shots. 31 shots are mandated by age 18 months. A Hep B shot is mandated at birth. These dramatic changes, to the schedule, were the result of the vaccine manufacturers exempting themselves from lawsuits in 1986 with the passage of the Vaccine Act. Vaccines are extremely profitable and all lawsuits are paid out by the taxpayers. So, the schedule just keeps growing. Was Scarlett Fever preventable if we used vaccines? We will never know. It was eradicated despite there never being a vaccine for it. I'm guessing the Amish are all very lucky. If you took the time to really look into this, you would realize that you are blindly defending Merck with very little information. That behavior is typical of people who belong to a religious cult.

[@michael_bullard]

As a Minnesotan, your assessment of the Mall of America is 100% accurate.

[@aydenschaffer3888]

Michael Bullard ahahaha you're right. I love the mall tho lol

[@EagleAndWolf000]

Michael Bullard Very true, even though both French foreign exchange students I've hosted loved it

[@KaseyMoore]

OK then

[@serpercival]

I can totally agree.

[@AiggEbe]

Michael Bullard The only more disappointing thing in Minnesota is the snow.

[@Slaphappy1975]

So sad. I live in Thailand. There has been huge success in getting everyone vaccinated and the difference is visible just walking down the street. You see a lot of older people limping around because they weren't vaccinated from polio when they were kids. Not because they wanted to, the country was just too poor to manage it. It's pretty tragic. But thankfully, I haven't seen a kid with polio in years. No one in my country believes that vaccines are bad. The experience of not getting shots is still too powerful in the memory.

[@Veladus]

Polio is in its death throes. Within a few years, it'll become a third virus we've vaccinated to extinction (following smallpox and rinderpest). Like how smallpox's last stand was in the cape of Africa, Polio's last stand is being held in the middle east. There's a handful (like a dozen or two) of new cases every year there, each year fewer than the last. No new cases are being found anywhere else in the world. There's some hype of "polio-LIKE" illnesses going around... at least here in America, I'm not sure if the rest of the world's news organizations are being sensationist douchebags... but it's NOT Polio, it's just in the same virus family with Polio. True Polio is breathing its last breathes in the Middle East.

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

Unfortunately, this is what happens when peace becomes the norm. The people who remember the benefits get older and the kids who had never seen what things were like before start to question whether things are better because they have never witnessed it for themselves.

[@radeemer1]

I liked your comment and am glad to hear vaccines are going well in Thailand, but I had to comment because I like your profile picture. Funny how The Laughing Man symbol is one of the most memorable symbols for me.

[@malerieayala4349]

And right now there’s a measles epidemic in Washington state in a particular county where people refused the measles vaccine. Too bad it’s not something completely debilitating that could slap those antivaxxers into shutting the hell up. They are definitely the priveledge few who have never experienced a real medical emergency

[@teja2295]

@@malerieayala4349 That's the irony, vaccines are suffering because if their own success; they have been so effective an eradicated so many diseases, that idiots are like 'polio isn't even a problem anymore!' and logical people are like yah, because of vaccines...

[@MJ-98]

"I don't know who to ask." YOUR PEDIATRICIAN!!! THE PERSON WHO WENT TO FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE AND THEN FOUR YEARS OF MEDICAL SCHOOL AND THEN THREE YEARS OF RESIDENCY SPECIFICALLY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE THIS!!!!!!

[@nscheid]

"The human body is a carnival of horrors and frankly, I'm embarrassed to have one."

[@bent404]

I would be too if it looked like that. 😉

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

It is the British Way

[@marcdemell2987]

Seek help.

[@vanjmallari7247]

... VERY SAD... Very ungrateful...

[@lucyk8935]

Okay, so my English class is very divided. The kids in there are either fairly liberal or fairly conservative, so it is RARE that we agree on anything. When our teacher mentioned that she didn't vaccinate her kid, we all united to make fun of her and it was amazing.

[@HeCometh232]

Has she changed her mind?

[@Lauren.E.O]

Good. I like to think there are some subjects that transcended political differences, and wanting kids to survive is one of them.

[@meganstewart2832]

I'm curious as to what some of the jokes were 🤔

[@esmenouvelle9439]

@@meganstewart2832 My brother loves to date antivax women. If an accident happens, he only has to pay child support for 4 years instead of 18. Why was the unvaccinated toddler crying? Mid life crisis.

[@xbjrrtc]

She shouldn't be trusted to teach children.

[@Mossy-Kat]

This whole thing really upsets me. Because here's the thing, I am autistic and my older sister (due to having had a liver transplant because of liver failure due to a genetic disease where the liver just doesn't process copper) is immunosuppressed. And basically what that means is that people are using the mere existance of people like me (autistic people) to justify putting my sister at serious risk. She can't get vaccinated anymore, the only thing protecting her is caution and herd immunity.

[@alecfangman8451]

I'm so sorry about your sister, give her a hi five for being amazing and give yourself one as well.

[@justacatwhoneedstherapy4095]

@Tricia Johnson 1) there is only 0.125 mg of aluminum and vaccines while humans on average ingest 30-50 mg of aluminum (you even breath it in you moron) 2)The "fetal cells" actually come from two aborted babies in 1900s which are still cultured today ,also only the cell membranes are used (i doubt you even know what that is) 3) there is no fucking poison you hateful #### 4) Also he isn't playing the fucking martyr he is just showing how people use people like him as an excuse to push their antivaxx agenda (like you are) 5) You cant vaccinate immuno-surpressed people because of how vaccines work. Honestly think , if vaccines are just a cash grab why would they stop people from vaccinating immuno-surpressed people?

[@kmwa1202]

Tricia Johnson OMG, seriously? Were you in a coma during biology? Too bad there isn’t a vaccine to prevent ignorance. Oh yeah, there is...it’s called EDUCATION! Gawd 🤯

[@beaub152]

@Tricia Johnson lmao the fact that people like you exist hurts

[@clairec3925]

@Tricia Johnson You can't get a vaccine for a fucking genetic disorder which is why a vaccine can't CAUSE AUTISM.

[@criptastical]

In an amazing ironic twist, my parents didn't give me the MMR when I was a kid (they were worried about crohns disease mostly) and yet I still ended up with autism lmao

[@agarsrish]

A real 4D chess move by you

[@bodowartke95]

Hahaha yeah same! I still make fun of my parents because of this!

[@fabiankuntzig6507]

@@bodowartke95 ^^

[@chromicapop4595]

lmao facts

[@TheGoldcountry]

I think that the difference between "hypothetical" and "theoretical" should be pronounced strongly in primary school. "Ideas" and "Ideas supported by research" are vastly different.

[@Arasmuss]

Thank you.

[@Chaosmage42]

the problem is that the people who need to explain this (teachers) don't know themselves or don't want to because they buy into this crap some times, i had a teacher who didn't understand this and it wasn't about vaccines but its the route of the problem. people don't understand science at all. they don't understand that you have to have the checked and reviewed and tested a lot, which is ironic as smoking was tested we knew it was bad but people denied it. we know vaccines like these ones are safe but people doubt them. its like that B5 - look a problem choose the course of action that makes the least sense and do it

[@sagerider2]

Some are creationists & are really creative about their reasons for their BS. Before having a child vaccinated, you should have a doctor test them. Because, if they have a problem, vaccination could injure them. But, hey, parents say, "eh, I can get another. And think of all the money I'll make suing the drug company. Much better than working for a living." I fear that's really the reason, plus they don't want to spend money on the brat. Any money, maybe some food & clothing. "But the little bastard already cost a lot just getting born. Now they want a fucking vaccination. And I have to pay for that too? No way, Jose. Let 'em die."

[@stephaniedorr8331]

The sad part is that the scientific community is being corrupted by industry. It isn't science when it is bias. People need to actually read the science. But nobody is actually reading through it. The write a 800 page book full of nonsense and call it science. It is corrupt, ignorant, and you aren't actually reading it. I just love when a society completely forgets why the Nuremberg laws were created.

[@sagerider2]

Stephy, Stephy, Stephy. Don't post or drive while drunk. Your whole statement makes no sense. Science only works if it works. If it doesn't work, then it's just craptastic magic. You are also saying that you don't read science, but that it's also nonsense. Please make up your fucking mind, preferable when it's sober. The Nuremberg laws have nothing to do with science & everything to do with keeping Germans pure..hahahaha. I guess you didn't read that either. I'll bet you haven't read the bible either. Have you in fact read anything but a post? I worked for a laboratory, we worked on many things. The Zika virus was one. It takes a long time, with all the precautions just to get a lab set up. Unfortunately, idiots don't read precautions on how to avoid getting the Zika virus, because that's *just nonsense.* We worked on a cancer cure. Our Boss & his wife got cancer, her first & she died, our boss got it later & survived. Science works bitches. It's sad, because they were such a happy couple.

[@zoeclara6933]

I find it hilarious that John Oliver calls the human body a "Carnival of Horrors", and in the episode of Rick and Morty he guest starred in, he was a guy who ran a carnival inside the human body.

[@MrTheDerper]

Wait, he was in the episode?! As the doctor within the body?!

[@fxvg7091]

Awesome bit of trivia, that!

[@finnneedshelp6653]

Pirates of the Pancreas

[@djoakeydoakey1076]

"WAAITTT! IT'S OKEY NEVERMIND I WANTED TO SACRIFICE MYSELF ANYWAAYYYY"

[@simplyecksplicit]

+Zoe Clara That show didn't look interesting to me and the art style didn't appeal to me either but I'm a fan of John Oliver so now I might have to check it out.

[@pulchrare2]

My grandma brings up her friend from childhood who contracted polio, and always expresses how lucky she and her sisters were that they never caught it. She can't understand vaccine hesitancy when it saved so many lives.

[@kevinsheldrick917]

See what Granny thinks of the article "More polio cases now caused by v than by wild virus" by ABC News

[@Sara-mf3px]

My grandmother had polio as a child. Was on crutches for the rest of her life. She was an amazing women. I had no doubts protecting my child and getting her vaccinated.

[@pokemaster123ism]

@@kevinsheldrick917I think what his comment is saying is that his grandma can’t understand why people are hesitant to get vaccinated, because from her perspective they are incredible things that save many lives

[@franktheexpertstrenchclub9025]

Well, sport, granny would probably say, “Wow, at its peak, polio was sickened, often permanently disabled, and even killed over 58,000 kids a year. Having LITERALLY 1 or 2 cases of polio a year, or none, out of millions of vaccines given sucks but is so, so much better than the alternative. And since people are less likely to get vaccine-derived polio in areas with more robust polio vaccination, all the more reason for everyone to be vaccinated.” Because granny would be a sane adult and not a selfish, ignorant, child-like anti-vaxxer.

[@gmailuser3740]

@@franktheexpertstrenchclub9025The issue with polio is that most cases are asymptomatic, and when one case of symptomatic polio appears that means that there are approximately 200 asymptomatic cases, making it spread fast.

[@abbyb2752]

My mom didn’t vaccinate me, I am proud to say as of today I’m fully vaccinated. I’m 24.

[@hannahbloom]

That’s awesome! I’m glad you recognize the necessity of being vaccinated.

[@veganearthling4670]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@weesalikesmilktea4829]

Hell yeah. You go girl.

[@themercifulguard3971]

God bless herd immunity for making you stay alive all those years lol.

[@rubyrangitsch5248]

Good job, taking control over your health!

[@elizabethpinkerton9866]

In the 50's I grew up in an area in Australia where polio was rife, children just dissapeared from our classes. They went into hospitals and we werent allowed to see them. It was terrible, really frightening.

[@mjbaricua7403]

@So What haha wow you love these right, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🖕🖕🖕🖕

[@ruby-cc4ds]

So What haha they won’t bc they’re vaccinated

[@mjbaricua7403]

@So What That type of logic can be summed up to "oh no the bridge has 99.99% success rate guess I'll swim"

[@mjbaricua7403]

@So What go catch something, I can't because I'm vaccinated

[@mjbaricua7403]

@So What chemicals, these "chemicals" don't poison your body, they train your immune system to fight invaders, so when a real infection starts your immune cells already know what to do. That's why you need to get vaccinated to prevent the part where the foreign microorganisms have a head start on the infection stage.

[@DreyriAldranaris36]

“The human body is a carnival of horrors.” As a medical student I can totally confirm lol.

[@UnsolicitedContext]

As a fellow medical student, I support this statement. I’d also like to criticize some design decisions, looking at you the knee, the lumbar spine, and external testicles.

[@DreyriAldranaris36]

@Ian Magruder absolutely XD

[@hyruleprotector6897]

Soon I shall understand that to

[@Sweet.peach21]

@@UnsolicitedContext as a non-medical student who knows enough about anatomy, knees, lumbar part of the spine and testicles are fucking WACK. Who designed this shit? I need to have a discussion with them.

[@OutruntheWind]

@@UnsolicitedContext Don't forget the vagus nerves/recurrent laryngeal nerves... Oh yeah, and our inside out eyeballs!

[@booth6421]

For those who don't know, hbomberguy did a really great video about Andrew Wakefield. But for those who don't wanna watch a video that's 2 hours long, here's a very brief summary: There was a lawyer who wanted to sue the government and vaccine manufacturers on the behalf of one mother because there could have been lots of money in it. The lawyer hired Wakefield to find a link between autism and MMR. Of the 12 children in the study, not only did he lie about when the autism symptoms first presented, but some of the children didn't even have autism. He made up much of the info in the report. He blamed the measles in the MMR vaccine, and at the same time he began developing an alternative measles vaccine, which would have made him lots of money if people suddenly wanted it. He's a disgusting man who lied to hurt people.

[@HOOTwheelz]

don't forget to add that during his fraudulent investigation into whether the MMR vaccine was causing autism, he was giving very young children colonoscopies that even for adults is a rather risky procedure. but multiple children suffered from punctured and bruised intestines as a result of this procedure which, if it needs to be remembered, was ENTIRELY FRAUDULENT FROM THE START. Those children suffered from severe medical abuse, all so some scumsucking lawyer and a dirtbag doctor could try to steal taxpayer and investor money to their hearts' content. and unfortunately, Andrew Wakefield still landed with a golden parachute because he lives in a gigantic mansion as he peddles low-grade conspiracy theories related to vaccines, and speaks regularly at conspiracy conventions with such high-falutin topics like "bigfoot is real."

[@Moved506]

He also committed child abuse on several occasions in order to find proof of the disease he was trying to make up.

[@crystalcrusader711]

I was wondering why someone would intentionally fuck with the data. Absolutely vile man.

[@redjed100]

And he abused some of those children by not giving their parents the opportunity to give him informed consent and putting them through a long list of procedures that are a lot for even adults to go through. In fact, I’m pretty sure he left Britain after the BMC hearings because he knew that criminal charges would be coming for him if he stayed.

[@CollegeBinary]

So many talk shows age like milk but Oliver consistently ages like wine

[@mgoblue9389]

This is a really good point. His Trump segments especially look good in retrospect

[@nikajinpusno9563]

Milk turns to kefir when it ages, and then it tastes even better.

[@justinhamilton8647]

@@nikajinpusno9563 spoiled milk is not kefir, lmao.

[@nikajinpusno9563]

@@justinhamilton8647 it essentially is

[@MohammedZiyaadHassen]

This isn’t a talk show

[@Chewbaccafruit]

These doctors spend at least four years in undergrad, at least four years in med school, and three years minimum in residency plus more if they want to specialize. But hey, Karen spent fifteen minutes on Google so I guess she knows what's best for her kids.

[@kimin3286]

This is about vaccines, no doctor is wrong about vaccines.

[@kimin3286]

Uh- Maybe you NEED that shot because you could be the ONE person in the entire country that gets the virus by being a dumbass I've had 6 vaccines in a day, most of my school had 6 vaccines in a day, the only person getting seizures has a condition and doctors should know how to handle that

[@peng7771]

TheBookWorm1718 hm... that's interesting. I wonder why nobody is getting that disease? really weird. oh right, it's because of the fucking VACCINES. use your head.

[@AlexeiIgnavich]

TheBookWorm1718 epilepsy is a neurological disorder that can be there from birth or from physical trauma to the brain (like after an accident) you dumb fuck

[@chandlerschneider1452]

@TheBookWorm1718 Who is paying you, corporate shill of the devil? The power of non-fuckery compels you!

[@Thesaurus_Rex]

As an autistic person, my parents freaked out and worried a lot when they found out about the potential "link" between autism and vaccines. To which I responded: A. Dad, you are also autistic. That's where I got it from. Not the medicine that saves people's lives. B. I'm honestly happy to be autistic. It lets me see the world in a way that not many people can, and it's beautiful. C. I'd much rather be autistic than dead, and I'm pretty sure that most people would agree. Individuals with high functioning autism can lead full and happy lives. Individuals who get these illnesses that we vaccinate for can be crippled for life, if not killed by those illnesses. I understand that low functioning autism is a whole different beast, but I'm betting that most of them still want to live, and, if not, there are ways to end their lives that don't put other people at risk. And, after much investigation, D. The scientific community agrees as universally as is possible that there is no link. I think that many parents who have grown up themselves in a vaccinated society, without the plagues that have devastated populations throughout history, think that those plagues entail a light fever, a stuffy nose, and a few days outside of school, since that's all they've ever experienced (or at least, all that they remember). The life-threatening reality of those illnesses is so distant that they cannot comprehend it, unless something like what happened in Minnesota happens to them, and then it becomes all too real. They don't understand the deadly risk of these illnesses, and so "autism" (a condition that can be very difficult to understand) seems much scarier than something with a cute name like "measles", even though Autism, even in extreme cases, very rarely leads to serious injury or death, while measles can easily have serious and permanent complications. But the best part is, they don't even need to make a choice, since *vaccines don't cause autism.*

[@AlexKnauth]

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[@jennafer2327]

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[@specodust8770]

Great speech! :)

[@alexalexalex92]

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[@dheeladheel]

amen

[@susanforeman8168]

As an autistic adult, I find it offensive that so many parents would rather a dead child than a child like me

[@nobodyinparticular983]

I had chronic health issues. As a result, I did get most of my childhood vaccines in middle school. I also an autism spectrum disorder. Which I had before I received the vaccines. The rise in autism rates is due to improved awareness and diagnostic testing. That's it.

[@Flareontoast]

Hello pal! I am autistic and I was vaccinated as a small kid, and was diagnosed with autism super late in my 20s. I cannot believe people still think that - in the UNLIKELY case autism and vaccines are even remotely connected - autism would be worse than diseases that have died out ages ago and could potentially kill their child and even others.

[@DoctorWhoKage]

So...are you saying we should *stop* studying and being aware of it? 🤔

[@hareecionelson5875]

@@Flareontoast Should we disprove the existence of unicorns and fairies while we're at it? I've read the wakefield study, there's blatantly a conflict of interest which was not stated in the research paper which was that he was developing and promoting individual vaccines for mumps, measles and rubella which he tries to encourage people to use instead of the combination MMR. There's a tiny population cohort, with a selection bias and no control group. It's a pile of shit not worthy to be called research.

[@nobodyinparticular983]

@@DoctorWhoKage I'm saying that children will develop autism with or without the vaccines.

[@DoctorWhoKage]

@@nobodyinparticular983 uh...okay.

[@rachieru382]

Shout out to the nurse I yelled at when I was little after she gave me a vaccine shot. I appreciate that you still gave me stickers after an adorable dressing down and kept doing your job. I also really appreciate not contracting a highly communicable, potentially deforming and/or lethal disease. You're an MVP in the fight against childhood diseases. Thanks.

[@mrsmime4055]

Stunning and brave.

[@jonoxes8662]

This is wholesome.

[@pebachooplayz476]

Shoutout to the nurse i bit when i got my shot. I was young and a little shit and i appreciate that you didnt punt me across the room

[@reneemazour3467]

[@JK-gh7qz]

i punched a nurse and i have to live with that guilt for the rest of my life.

[@avedic]

It's genuinely interesting how there are MANY Last Week Tonight videos from years ago.......that become re-relevant years later.

[@whobitmyname]

I think the re's cancel out, so now they're just levant.

[@KingQwertzlbrmpf]

You remember the one about Nuclear waste? Do you remember that during the research part for that show they coincidentally discovered a news report from 1977 that was brought up pretty much exactly the same points they did? The reason why so many Last week tonight shows from years ago become relevant later again is simply because the US government is used to only act in an emergency and only if and as long as the public is pressing the issue. And even then the two party system and the flatour ridiculous freedom ideal in the US pretty much locks the entire political system of the US into a standstill.

[@bofty]

Because the right wingers are still alive and still dumb as fuck

[@JuICyBLiinGeR]

Pablo Came here to say that lol

[@lasvina3610]

@@JuICyBLiinGeR and you can't blame them one bit 😂😂

[@indycolt2017]

I received a bone marrow transplant and had to have all my vaccines over again. I also wouldn’t have been able to go back to school without herd immunity. I am beyond grateful for the science that has kept me healthy!

[@dawnwilliams8920]

I had a Stem cell transplant and I actually didn't have to get my MMR again but my daughter had to wait on her 4 year old shots until my immune system recovered, I was very grateful for herd immunity for our family.

[@ellielouiseroberts8602]

My cousin contracted measles while pregnant with her daughter. Her daughter was born profoundly deaf because of my cousin having measles while pregnant. Infants and pregnant women are exposed to people who carry measles. It's a real danger for this part of the population.

[@katwernery6505]

I am a parent of a nine-year-old who is autistic and nonverbal. Vaccines did not causes autism, and I am sick parents using fear of autism to justify not vaccinating their children leading to an increase in epidemic diseases. It also says to me that these people would rather their child be dead than like mine. Yes, we do have difficult days but by my child is a wonderful boy. If you constantly focus on his disabilities you missed out on how wonderful he is. Everyone needs to vaccinate their children, not only keeps them safe but to keep entire communities healthy

[@LogisticalHurdles]

My autistic nephew just graduated from high school and is going to college soon. We're all so proud of his accomplishments. Keep up the good work!

[@candkw3272]

I don’t blame vaccines for autism. I believe the people that see a day and night difference in their children are in fact seeing a sensory processing meltdown - triggered by sudden unexpected pain. They just consider the vaccines the problem, not the pain.

[@hitsugatatsuro9978]

@paul8kangas Omg, what you said is so damn offensive! I don't care how long ago this comment was made. Hers was a subjective expression of discontent that anti-vaxxers would rather let their child be in danger of potentially crippling if not lethal illnesses (which is unethical parenting, mind you) as opposed to autism, which though on a spectrum, produces fellow human beings that can think and feel same as you and me -not scum to be made examples of to scare others. That is the majority of what she said essentially. Goddamn.

[@savagedragon79]

You know that 9 year old is going to be living with you till you die right?

[@MOTLMom]

+savagedragon79 Funny, I know several autistic adults that live perfectly fine on their own. Not sure where you get the idea that autism = incapability.

[@franz6047]

There are two things that just never get old: Jokes about anti-vaxers and the children of anti-vaxers

[@vesperentgroup]

Still laughing two minutes later. I might need to borrow this joke pls.

[@everythingdibs344]

Peter McSweeney yes you will be punished greatly if you say this joke without permission and he will know because he is omnipotent

[@elibrainstorm5961]

Underrated comment.

[@suryamohan3410]

oh damn

[@kaytrovert]

This comment is Gold

[@MakotoKamui]

Rewatching this during the 'debate' about COVID vaccines and masks.. and continuing to beat my head against the wall over people who still try to find excuses on all this. If you are medically able, get your vaccines, and if you are able, wear your mask during a pandemic. And if you can't get your shot or wear a mask, there are services available so you can stay home and not keep this pandemic going!

[@ykMMD]

I know oh my god. I'm trying to be empathetic, understanding and kind.m...But as ICUs in Quebec are overflowing and patients have to be denied non-urgent care because there's just too much work, I just want to tell the anti-vaxx to go f*ck themselves. And if they get really, really sick from covid, they should stay home and die at home if they don't trust science and doctors. Ughhhhhh. But this isn't the solution.

[@kadenlogghe752]

As an Autistic person: Do you know how horrible it is to constantly be told that people would rather have their baby die than be autistic? Autism is not a broken brain it is a different one.

[@antoniosantos9669]

Autistic people are actually way smarter in so many fields than othere. So many famous and renowned people are successful qnd recognized on their fields of expertise

[@millanferende6723]

@@antoniosantos9669 I always say "The advantage of autism is that we are right about most things that we talk about (or else we wouldn't be talking about them.)" "The disadvantage? Almost nobody listens to us."

[@sleeplikeababy1456]

An autistic brain is so much more analytical than a typical brain could ever be. Autism is an evolutionary step, not a disability or something you should take pitty on. Sure, evolution has kinks to work out... like with my son who is autistic, epileptic, adhd, non-verbal, intellectually delayed... but otherwise he is happy, healthy, and makes connections with the world that completely blow my mind. You cannot change without changing the way you think and the autistic brain thinks differently... let that sink in.

[@benjamingrezik373]

Lack of vaccinations doesnt kill people fool lmao

[@benjamingrezik373]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21623535/

[@maynardk1]

OMG I can't believe John Oliver is anti-fish. It just sickens me that this kind of prejudice appears on HBO still.

[@oribennett6520]

Kurtis Maynard +

[@MidoriGal17]

you should see what he said about birds.

[@ThatGirlWithTheCoffee]

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[@seanmurphy3357]

Kurtis Maynard as he should #makeameticabreathagain

[@wkbeats]

#FishLivesMatter

[@elikorthase6426]

I remember going to the movie theater with one of my friends when I was in high school. We couldn’t see the matinée because I had a doctor’s appointment to get some vaccines and my mom told me not to tell my friend why we had to see that movie later and reschedule because his parents were anti vax and didn’t want to ruin our friendship. Mom was like, “if you tell him, his parents may make sure you never ever see your best friend ever again.” And I didn’t tell and I sobbed for a while because I was scared of losing my best friend in the whole world because I was immunized. That’s how crazy that 1% of people are.

[@mathewdeering]

Why did the antivaxxers 3 year old kid start crying? Mid-life crisis.

[@topazxy5809]

Mat Deering actually a midlife crisis would be 1.5 years old everyone knows polio kill at exactly 3 😂

[@mariaquiet6211]

That's the most horrible joke ever. I'm impressed XO

[@Theokrist]

Oof

[@anjananatarajan4949]

Am I allowed to laugh at this joke? It kinda sounds inappropriate to laugh at this but I can't help it!

[@bananamanxd3093]

jeff sweet wtf

[@komrookmetmy465]

Going against thimerosal because it contains mercury is like going against salt because it contains chlorine.

[@yeflynne]

even the CDC website admits vaccines use thimerosol as a preservative..

[@robbiehartless8512]

Except its not like that at all

[@komrookmetmy465]

@@robbiehartless8512 Care to explain how?

[@shaylafey]

​@@yeflynne people have an issue with thimersol because its based around ethylmercury which is similar methylmercury, which can be poisonous, however, the trace amounts even if it was methylmecury would be questionable but most likely would not cause any real harm. However its even more so true for ethylmercury as our body breaks it down nearly as soon as it enters the body. While many vaccinations did use thimersol at one time, according the CDC, "Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal. Influenza (flu) vaccines are currently available in both thimerosal-containing (for multi-dose vaccine vials) and thimerosal-free versions." The CDC also states that "Thimerosal use in medical products has a record of being very safe. Data from many studies show no evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines. " The ingredient was removed from most vaccinations when the anti-vaxx movment began to cause a decline in vaccinations, this as an attempt to present a show of good faith, presumably in hopes to increase public trust and midgate lack of vaccinations. Although, like with most medications some minor complications while uncommon can occur such as, "The most common side-effects are minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. Although rare, some people may be allergic to thimerosal. "

[@wanderingtravellerAB99]

@@yeflynne you say that like it's some sort of shameful secret that noone wants to admit. It's not.

[@nadiyao.3537]

Also, can we talk about how much anti-vaccine rhetoric stigmatizes the lives of people with autism?

[@iantkach6640]

Absolutely. Like, let's say for the sake of argument that vaccines DO cause autism (they don't, but let's say they do)... if I ever have a kid, I would much rather they have autism than die from a preventable disease.

[@valeriafonsecadiaz1527]

@@iantkach6640 I don't think just anybody could easily do the same reasoning, but I definitely support ditching this stigma just for the fact that autism is not a disease

[@gokubroly12009]

@@iantkach6640 ok let me first say that as a man with a mild form of autism I appreciate the sentiment you and the lady who replied to you have said. Second I agree completely. What a lot of people tend to forget is autism isn’t something you can CATCH. It’s something you’re BORN with. But more than that as you’ve mentioned the stigma that comes with being autistic. There’s nothing wrong with autism

[@corbeau-_-]

autism is an insanely broad term to begin with. At any rate, people with autism who are also very aware (like me) will have the stigma at any rate: Being different is what we humans don't like. That's the basis of all of these problems, like racism, sexism, etc. A instinctive need for conformity, to a certain extent (because bigger is often better). It is of all times - it forms a huge part of evolution. Birds etc. toss the weak out of their nest. Women only mate with the prettiest, strongest (or to are just taken by the most muscular...). Most of nature wouldn't allow autists to live. All my life I have felt like a weirdo. Highly intelligent, emotionally very different and unable to take in a lot at once. It's baffling to others. And I'm rarely able to connect. My point being, I couldn't care less about this so called stigmatization they seem to cause. They are nutters, living besides reality, but they should be allowed to do so... Otherwise you go towards fascism. Educate people. Don't feel offended by everything. For a lot of people, I'm too logical, I talk too much, I'm boring. So be it. That shouldn't be such a bother to people. The fact that I like blue, doesn't mean people who like red and hate blue are 'wrong'. Unless they attack me over it. But... this is basically why people have fought wars all throughout history. 'Stigmatized' by the fact that some people like red, while I like blue. So no, please don't talk about it. At least, not in a direct manner. Growing a spine will help a lot in life, it is made up out of small victories and huge defeats. Focus on the small victories. Not on trivial pursuits. People won't ever all get along, unless, like said, you force them. And as you can see, divided we fall. Education helps a lot... Also on autism. In most cases it isn't that bad, but I wouldn't want my child to be like me at all. My life has emotionally been very hard to deal with for me and I don't feel a lot of pleasure in life itself. I like simple things though (painting, drawing, sculpting - mostly creating something visually pleasing relaxes me. Nearly everything else in life sort of upsets me). But I can get very frustrated over seemingly small things - which I'm aware of (with, or without society). So the stigma is there at any rate. The things I do to myself, emotionally, are way harder than any stigma. Because my instinct too, wants me to be normal. But I am not - that is very apparent to me and it has been ever since I was very little: I don't act like the others. I'm 35 and very, very alone. Safe for one other autist I know - who is a lot like me. Still feels like we're alone together... Very long point short (I tend to do that...): it's not that weird people don't want that for their children... Just like being gay is ok, but can be very hard as well. I'd rather have a straight child than a gay child, though I'd love both equally. It's not about that... Because a lot of people want to be 'normal', like instinct prescribes. Children start mocking others around 5-8 years old, when they notice these differences in themselves and others. This is also why I've known since forever that I'm different - and no one could tell me why. This proces also builds character and it creates identity... It's not something you can destroy, or do without. I sort of hope you don't appreciate my comment, just to rub it in. That tells you something about me ;)

[@corbeau-_-]

@@iantkach6640 this is also true, though. I've been vaccinated at any rate - in Febuary - cause I'm a health worker. I see many autists there (just not like me, like said, autism is a very wide term)... These people work to help others because they know how hard life can be and it makes them feel good, gives purpose. So no autism isn't all that bad... Still, I can imagine people would rather do without when given the choice ;)

[@gabrielley1242]

My son was immunocompromised after having Kawasaki Disease at 9 yrs old. One of the scariest things about it was having to trust herd immunity. He couldn’t have any vaccinations for a year and having to send him back to school was terrifying.

[@ebonylady]

Wow, that was an emotional roller coaster and that's why vaccines need to be required across the board unless someone has a valid medical reason.

[@andybray9791]

Won’t the motorcycle brand have to change name

[@ryanluther5785]

The kids then: I don't know why I need to listen to these Biology and Geography teachers, I'm never gonna use the knowledge. Those people now: vAcCiNeS cAuSe AuTiSm AnD tHe EaRtH iS fLaT

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

And Ryan Luther, you're a fool. I don't know of any antivaxxer who believes in a flat Earth. Antivaxxers FYI are actually ex-vaxxers who stopped having their children injected after one or more of them developed serious health issues. Antivaxxers tend to be more highly educated than the norm and also have higher incomes. They are mostly very well read and have looked at the true science once their child became autistic, developed encephalopathy or became paralized. Do you realize many doctors don't vaccinate their own kids?

[@ryanluther5785]

@@OceanFrontVilla3 "Antivaxxers tend to be more highly educated than the norm..." Source? "...and also have higher incomes." Again, source? "They are mostly very well read and have looked at the true science..." They have spent time on google. These people literally funded a study to find a link between vaccines and autism, and it came up against them. "...once their child became autistic, developed encephalopathy or became paralized." Your failure to spell "paralyzed" tells me a lot. But I'll take this claim at face value and say this: CORRELATION =/= CAUSATION. First off: Autism. Autism SYMPTOMS show at around the time vaccines can first be injected, but there's so much against it. Not only have unvaccinated people "become" autistic, autism is a physical problem with the brain, and is something people are born with. And again, look at what happened, I straight up said it right before this. Okay, now for encephalopathy. You literally just took a word that means brain disease, damage or disorder. Causes of such things include: infections, trauma, metabolic problems, and the like. All entirely physical things that cannot happen through vaccinations. Why don't you google it, since the internet supersedes any actual medical knowledge? Finally: becoming paralyzed through vaccination. There is no proven link between getting vaccinated and Guillain-Barre syndrome (which I'm assuming is what you're referring to). Like I said with autism, symptoms simply show up at about the same time. "Do you realize many doctors don't vaccinate their own kids?" Like I've said before, source? Why am I even trying, you'll probably just say I'm wrong, or a government sheep, or attack something superficial, like my profile picture, because that's how hard your argument falls flat. By the way, the whole "flat earther and anti-vaxxer thing" was simply a joke. I, too, have never met someone who believes both of those, since that's a level of stupidity that would cause brain cell implosion, I was simply referring to both movements. Come at me.

[@williamlevy6964]

@@ryanluther5785 You're being deceived by the Devil. John Oliver is exploiting your pride, your sloth and your fear for survival if you go against the authority figure (John Oliver) who is the alpha of the group. Hence the audience's synonymous laughter. You don't want to be laughed at because you're a coward who needs people to think you're one of them. Find the motive for the lie ($$$$) and you can find the liar. Follow the money.

[@Olivia-wx4tq]

@@OceanFrontVilla3 No, a large amount of anti-vaccination people have been fed false information about vaccines being harmful, when in the long run not getting them is harmful. You do realize that not vaccinating your kid, literally opens the door for diseases like Measles to come to them? Measles can result in your child being blind, or deaf. If its Autism you're worried about, let me be the most likely 100th person to tell you that vaccinations do not cause Autism. There is no science proving it, all the 'proof' you have is the fact that Autism develops around the age when children start getting vaccinated. One of the most common causes of Encephalopathy is heavy drinking.The other causes of it are infections, anoxia, metabolic problems, toxins, drugs, physiologic changes, trauma, and many others. I don't know about you, but I don't see 'vaccinations' on there. Paralysis is caused by damage to the nervous system as well as stroke, trauma with nerve injury, poliomyelitis, cerebral palsy, peripheral neuropathy, Parkinson's disease, ALS, botulism, spina bifida, multiple sclerosis, and Guillain-Barré syndrome. I do not think many doctors don't vaccinate their children. The amount of doctors who REFUSE to work on children because they're unvaccinated is very high. They refuse to, because it could be harmful to them, other members of the staff, or other patients. Also, I'm just going to dispute the claim that 'Antivaxxers tend to be more highly educated than the norm' using the following corrections to your comment. - Tend to be more educated. 'more highly educated' makes no sense at all. -*Autistic -* Paralyzed -You're missing several commas, not even gonna correct all of those. FYI, the last time an article has been written about Encephalopathy supposedly being caused by/relate to vaccines, is 2011.

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1636]

Christine Paolini T. AntiVaxxer

[@AkseerKhanFiji]

Didn't get polio again today! SO LIT!

[@gillythafish1774]

Akseer Khan you are so lucky just yesterday I was wearing a yellow polio.

[@alientezari6344]

galetaf eid Mubarak to you too

[@AnEvolvingApe]

But, Akseer... you should be alarmed by the sudden absence of spiders.

[@azizadam3819]

eid Mubarak

[@burakhezar112]

I saw this comment before I watched the video and I thought you were an idiot

[@alyssinclair8598]

someone on this show had the job of googling stupid pictures of fish. I wish I was that someone

[@thegodofimagination]

I just want to find artist who made the chocking minion as i need to give them a medal

[@sufimuslimlion4114]

@Hiram Abiff ... Ok...

[@kimberleymckay5949]

@Hiram Abiff No they were tRumps ass kissers🤮

[@Jonnyg325]

But they also have to deal with pictures of naked John Oliver

[@MubashirullahD]

I want you to fulfill your dreams.

[@jackiejanes7555]

Just a reminder that we don't need a "cure" for autism.

[@JejuIju]

there is, it's called abortion 🤣😎

[@cleffa173]

THANK YOU!

[@andybray9791]

People are already divergent

[@bobbysworld281995]

It was never the needle, it was always antibiotics.

[@Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr]

Please look into more stories about people with higher levels of autism who frequently abuse themselves and their caretakers either physically, mentally, emotionally, or all of the above and think about reconsidering ur opinion. I don't believe the people with autism are at fault or in the wrong but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and find a better way forward in life for them just cause u don't like the way curing autism sounds.

[@danh6950]

Two things never get old: - Dark humour - Children of Anti-vaxxers

[@johnlosh5221]

Damn, well to be fair I didn’t expect to live past 35 anyway so I guess that second point is true.

[@jackkotter4401]

Dark humour is like food. Not everyone gets it!

[@watchvidjedi]

Best comment EVER!!!! Love it!

[@counterfeit1148]

Jokes about unvaccinated kids never got old, just like the kids.

[@counterfeit1148]

@NSA I think that's the best one of the three anti-vaxx ones in this thread

[@manospondylus]

The United States of America, home to both: -NASA -The Flat-Earth Society Something somewhere went terribly wrong.

[@RafaelMonteiroMaia]

Disappointed Turtle The educational system.

[@manospondylus]

Rafael Lopes Most likely

[@VolvagiasBlaze]

Rafael Lopes or the south.

[@rasjeff1]

Something is not like the others... why putting NASA with the other ones? I thought NASA was good thing, wasn't it?

[@daianmoi8528]

As much as I want to blame the school systems, it is hard to do that because it's really the parents who harass the schools and the schools have to bend to their will. I wish I knew what to do to fix this.

[@southsider9638]

So creepy that I'm watching this now in 2020, considering what's going on now...

[@MubashirullahD]

Covid-19 should make it clear.

[@deliam02]

@@MubashirullahD I hope it does. Otherwise... well, what else has to happen in order to make people understand that there are pandemics, if there's no vaccination?

[@ericwall6219]

Delia Metzler If Trump says it was no big deal that 80,000 American deaths weren’t bad-were actually a good job? The same people who don’t vaccinate for MMR will be the same people getting us all sick from COVID-19 for generations.

[@89Keith]

Anti-vaxer want to live in a world without vaccinations; well congrats! You're now living in a world without just one? Having fun?

[@imranzosh97]

@@89Keith nah. They still not gonna get vaccine.

[@Rogue_Vigilante]

"Tiny children are not horses." Someone might want to tell the Ivermectin crowd that.

[@chaitrikanagwekar2688]

This horse reference did not age well😂

[@pugachevskobra5636]

Lmao good one

[@65avo65]

Don’t tell them. Let em learn the hard way

[@northtxhomes.]

The one effective against covid is the human form given for parasitic infections. For some reason, that important point is left out of many articles

[@AlecThePirateKing]

@@northtxhomes. First, the articles mention that the Ivermectin people are using is DOSED for horses. You need a prescription to get a dose designed for humans so these people have been using what they can get their hands on, livestock meds. Second, Ivermectin has NOT been proven to be effective against COVID so a news source should not report it as such.

[@Grimlock1979]

Didn't get polio again today. So lit!

[@Amundstvoll]

Mom: "I don't know who to listen to" Everyone: "The pediatrician."

[@DoctorWhoKage]

Except, not even doctors are unbiased. Everyone has their biases and this extends to professionals like doctors. Add the usual financial chumminess with big pharma corporations, then you get a 100% compromised healthcare system with no real point to it other than to profit off medication advertising, and off their patients' suffering. Telling people who live in fascist countries like the U.S. to "Ask/listen to a doctor", is like telling a christian god isn't real. They've asked/listened to those doctors and those doctors might've told them the same things those unbiased online sources told them because whoever's paying the doctor in question might not be unbiased themselves. Healthcare in the United States has become about advertising solutions to problems--the solutions being something that these doctors have read about online or heard from the big pharma corps who pay them that may sometimes have a 50/50% chance of actual success than giving someone solutions off fact-based knowledge that they've received from years of either doing their own studies or, looking for other fact-based studies done by other physicians to make an educated decision.

[@DoctorWhoKage]

And, this also brings up a great side point: *there's no such thing as an unbiased source anymore.*

[@nejlaakyuz4025]

@@DoctorWhoKage while doctors arent 100% unbiased source (nothing is) they are the best we have, but if you doubt what your doc says you can always consider consultomg another ,medical professional

[@Amundstvoll]

@@DoctorWhoKage still doesn't change anything. Parents should listen to the pediatrician. If you feel the doctor is lying, change pediatrician... and vaccines are not the same as the experimental treatments for something that might have a 50% chance of being cured. Vaccines work.

[@m.h2247]

Dr. Kira oh stop it. From the moment you are born as something you ARE biased because none of us are omnipotent and omniscient gods whose point of view is unlimited and infinite. Doctors have studied medicine for decade. You’re telling me you wouldn’t go to the emergency room because the doctor might be biased? I’ve heard a lot of stupid arguments but this « doctors are biased » is literally the worst, because it’s so effortless. Trust centuries of scientific research that led to our current modern knowledge rather than your intuition, no matter how great you think it might be.

[@rotempeer-raviv4859]

"I'm debating the age" said the woman holding a baby with EARRINGS.

[@tegantalks9612]

Ugh… yes because Tragedeigh absolutely needed those earrings but doesn’t need the life saving vaccines.

[@coaxill4059]

​@@tegantalks9612 "You can't poke my young child with a tiny needle to inoculate them against deadly infections! I'm going to pierce my child with a much larger needle that might infect them instead."

[@shoelesshipster]

🤣

[@VulsikDoSurilim]

@@coaxill4059 🤣

[@JuMiKu]

Oh my god! I hadn't even noticed that. That is just art.

[@actownsend7288]

God bless John and The Oliver family!! You celebrate Kate and your boys everyday when you aren’t making us think and we laugh. Last Week Tonight is an excellent program.

[@MariBelle0220]

It makes me cry every time to hear children dying for something that the parents could have prevented.

[@syashadeed7552]

It makes me sad everytime I hear of babies dying from vaccines that did not have to be injected onto their tiny bodies

[@rachelr5654]

@@syashadeed7552 Yeah... I don't really hear that second one so much...

[@starscream3441]

It doesn't make me sad. Polish them off already it will teach their Anti-Vaxxer Parents a lesson. A lesson not learned in blood is soon forgotten

[@spicecrop]

MariaBelle0220 Like Abortion? I'll bet your sorry ass doesn't cry for those children.

[@goytothaworld3860]

@@starscream3441 So if you get vaxed and I don't it's me who gets sick right? Brainwashed moron

[@jenhernandez9657]

John Oliver is my favorite part of waking up for work Monday mornings. At least I can watch an educating and thought provoking comedy piece before I go to the office. I am massively grateful HBO is allowing the main story to be posted each week.

[@superleipoman]

Me too, I get superexcited about this every week still :D Plus, it's kind of nice to have something to be excited about Mondays too, given that Mondays are... well, Mondays.

[@Shierajackylnsword]

Jennifer Hernandez who knew he had a son, I'd almost cried

[@arrow_awsome]

what, they don't post the hole show!?!?!?!?!?! my childhood is rund

[@mortis3270]

Me too. I get HBO but like watching these on KZbin Monday morning before I start my work week.

[@gbubemia]

Jennifer Hernandez You call this bs educating????? lol

[@FishyFisherSwag]

On behalf of all fish, I'm offended

[@SabreenRezvie]

fuck you fish! did someone type this for you? go back to the sea!

[@firetarrasque4667]

On behalf of people who like fish, I am offended.

[@jessicaandsahara]

NO! If that is all you have to say, do not presume to speak on behalf of all fish! As human irresponsibly continues to lead to growing radioactive waste in our oceans, and their synthetic clothing adds micro-plastics to the soup with every washing cycle, while the dyes that coloured them seep into the environs of our fresh-water brethren as the leading cause of fresh water pollutants, you shall not speak on the behalf of all fish-kind and say meekly "I'm offended" to the corruptly-clothed carbon-snorting land sharks. NAY! Has our civilisation fallen so low that this is all you can muster in these dark and dire days? Or have you allowed your mind to run ashore in shallow waters and you are merely gasping in the hot airs of an oily shore?

[@parkertheone6942]

On behalf of all fans of the FishyFisher KZbin channel I say, hello fishy.

[@JensSchraeder]

What would you know. Your a fish and fish are idiots

[@deathXbyXlight]

Lord, the very second the HPV vaccine became available, my mother called and made a doctor's appointment for literally as soon as I was eligible for it. I think I got it on my 11th birthday. HPV can cause a bunch of cancers, multiple of which run in my family. So, it was super important that I get the thing that means I can't get the thing that causes a bunch of cancers.

[@shannsimms9072]

Same here.

[@graceylela3853]

As someone with a terrible immune system this affects me greatly. And seriously I’m asking you to please immunise your children. I am someone who when in public spaces such as school, the grocery story, at friends places or anywhere else (even my own home sometimes), has to be careful because if someone around me has a cold or coughs or even sneezes I can get very sick. My lungs might decide to stop working or my throat might start bleeding or I my eyes might not be able to work (this sounds ridiculous but all of this has happened to me and I’m barely 16). I have trained my body to hold my breath for up to 3 minutes so if someone near me is sick I can stop breathing and get out of that situation so I’ll be safe. I go to, what seems like, ridiculous lengths... but it’s because I have a shitty immune system. I’m so greatful that I live somewhere where vacations are so widely available and used because I would be dead without them and without others using them. So thank you to everyone who does immunise their children because you’ve help save my life and others like me. And to those who don’t, you’ve put my life at risk and I understand that you “have your reasons” but that’s insane and honestly it’s really ignorant of you, because it’s not just your child your affecting. It’s us too.

[@omnichrome9784]

Gracey Lela I am a parent of two vaccinated children, one with an autism diagnosis...I continued with recommended vaccinations after the diagnosis. I believe my child’s autism is mostly hereditary.

[@vincenzoditrolio6985]

And you are the reason why there is a reason for making national laws about vaccines.

[@maggiee639]

It pisses me off when people don’t wanna vaccinate for others safety. It’s so stupid and selfish... I think it’s the combination of the two that makes my brain hurt.

[@maggiee639]

ole555 you are literally the problem. Stop spewing your pseudo science. You are scientifically illiterate and it shows.

[@ole555]

​@@maggiee639 If you are going to reply to someone making a serious argument, could you at least do everyone the courtesy of indicating some sort of responsive counterargument? People who think the wrong thing are not the problem; The problem is people like you, presuming to tell others their opinion is invalid simply based on existing bias without addressing the substance of their argument at all. Those people exist on all sides of any contentious issue. You are not wrong because of your opinion but because of your arrogant and overbearing attitude towards discourse. If you really want to convince anybody with your pretentious virtue signaling, why don't you just go ahead and prove how "scientifically illiterate" I am? I dare you. Incidentally, I will go out on a limb and predict that your concept of "scientific literacy" is virtually synonymous with "deference to consensus."

[@graememercer8527]

my son is autistic its not caused by vaccines but at a genetic level please vaccinate your children and my son is a polite and intelligent young man in college now

[@whobitmyname]

Well done, both of you.

[@joeycrooks6217]

I also have autism and for me it was caused by pure chance. I had no genetic evidence of autism. Also if someone like me can go to college, and I’m confident that I could to.

[@Dhugon]

so? :D

[@briantreston2199]

mercury aluminium formaldehide aborted fetal tissue are good for children

[@tacot4352]

Brian Treston ever read the ingredients on artificial foods? Those acids and additives sound scary too. Doesn’t mean it’ll kill you.

[@111111hakar]

The fact that parents are so afraid of their children getting autism that they are prepared to risk them contracting life threatening diseases is frankly depressing and is a clear example of how misinformed people are as to what autism actually is.

[@kimwarburton8490]

you do realise that only after WW2 did the strict hygiene practices we now use become widespread? so yes, over the years people got measles less, they learned n understood how disease spreads, hospitals started using sterile gloves etc to reduce cross contamination, campaigns to alert the populace of symptoms n first responses (i.e. isolate the patient so they cannot pass on the illness/disease) thus the contact spreading part of the diseases' cycle occured at much lower rates, hence just b4 vaccines came out, lower numbers of measles related deaths compared to 1910 Also, the reason why there wasnt much difference noticed between immediately pre vacc n post vacc years is because herd immunity protection takes time if there's always 20+% of population floating about not immunized (as there would have been 1st few years while vaccine programs first ran) the numbers were gunna stay much the same, because the herd effect hadnt kicked in

[@Scrubjay457]

Jennifer Paige Wait, then what kind of site do you *want* me to take information from? A commercial site? An organization? A network? Because those all have the same(and arguably worse) problems than a government site.

[@MW-dr3nl]

Jennifer Paige I don't think you understand what the issue is.The problem was never about if the unvaccinated harm the vaccinated. The problem is that some people, for any number of reasons, cannot be vaccinated and THOSE people are the ones put at risk by the ones who choose to remain unvaccinated. I don't usually comment on youtube videos and I'm not going to fight but I wanted to be the first to point out your blatant misunderstanding of the situation.

[@MrClickity]

+TheBookWorm1718 "Would you care to show us the statistics on how many people in America died from measles the year before the measles vaccine came out, vs. the measles death rate the year after the vaccine came out? Let's see how massive that difference is." Go to academic.oup.com/jid/article/189/Supplement_1/S69/2082538 Scroll down to the graph. The vaccine was first made available in 1963. Between 1962 and 1967, the number of measles cases dropped from roughly 250 per 100,000 people to around 10 per 100,000 people. The death rate for measles was about 0.2% at the time. The US population in 1960 was about 180 million. That means that, right after the vaccine was released, we went from 450,000 cases (and around 900 deaths) a year to 18,000 cases (and around 36 deaths) So... long story short: about 900 deaths the year before the vaccine came out and around 36 four years after the vaccine came out.

[@Lunapixel_]

111111hakar Autism isn't actually a debilitating disability in more cases than not. It's often a social or minor learning disability rather than the equivalent of mental retardation.

[@ElizabethWilliamsBushey]

I have two daughters; the younger is autistic. When the HPV vaccine became available, I overheard them discussing whether or not they wanted to get it (I was strongly encouraging it.) Finally, the younger one deadpanned: “I’ll go for it. What have I got to lose?” After a beat, the two of them fell out laughing; they both ended up fully vaxxed.

[@chromicapop4595]

i like that kids logic

[@Paulski25]

But but, HPV is transmitted via via intimacy, now your daughters will see this as a permission to go wild! 😵 Well, yes at some point in their future they will, but most likely not because they are now vaccinated. Good for your daughters!

[@madisonpheonix1628]

Man, today was a good day! Woke up, didn't get polio, didn't contract measles, didn't die of an easily preventable disease. SO LIT!

[@frankreed7560]

Madison Pheonix then commuted suicide

[@avenpreston1104]

Madison Pheonix plays ice cube song today was a good day

[@alexandrapedersen829]

Same. I do have autism, though. It's not that bad, really.

[@aviendha1154]

Fresh air you can’t cure autism.... how stupid are you?

[@jewelmarkess]

Fresh air -- stop lying. autism is a neurological condition, you cannot cure it, certainly not with diet and "woo" you seem to love. I wonder - you don't trust "pharma" because they make money, but you trust vitamin-sellers, "detoxing" treatment sellers, as well as homeopaths? Do you know that they make money too? A lot more than "big pharma" because "big pharma" needs to prove treatments work and get FDA approval, homeopaths can just claim it works and idiots like you fall for it. Yet, you believe them. BTW - do you know that Wakefield made millions from his fraud and lies?

[@EriBerry737]

Hey John, doubt you'll see this comment, but you should know this segment changed a few anti-vaxxer's minds. I've seen it. You may have just saved some children's lives. Keep being amazing.

[@LogisticalHurdles]

Thanks for keeping an openmind! 👍

[@criskp6861]

That is amazing !

[@luisojeda682]

I was born in the 1970's my grandmother was born in the 1930's, and died in the 1960's from complications of Polio. We never got to meet, wish vaccinations were available back then.

[@yeflynne]

polio is caused by poor wastewater treatment. if you go near shit all day you will get polio with or without a vaccine lol. injecting experimental chemicals into your blood is bad for you

[@luisojeda682]

I'll will not be taking advice from an internet doctor, but my dead grandmother still passed from it and she lived in NYC where plumbing was readily available. Read the "How the Other Half Lives" Book by Jacob Riis, he details and documents the polio epidemic..When medics with MEDS came into the regions the disease was for the most part eradicated. You prolly don't understand but that was the Greatest Generations disease and science(chemicals or MEDS) helped. Now todays disease killing us is the stupidity to not get vaccinated. @@yeflynne

[@caleb7420]

I don't believe we are talking about the polio vaccine alone, we are talking about the myriad of inoculations. Such as immunization against HBV, although most infants are not at high risk for becoming infected with HBV, come on....let's talk respectfully to each other about the choices that should be available to parents and caregivers of children.

[@lukelim5094]

@@yeflynne lol experimental. Why would anyone listen to you quack. The fact that human population grow 3 times its size as compared to 2 billions during WW2, medical advances play a HUGE part in population growth. And apparently you don't know what the word experimental means. All drugs have their parent prototype drugs to be referenced from, whole class It is a process to constantly review, refine and minimize danger to patients. The big pharma might be trying to rip you and me off money. But their drugs still works, they just want to charge you high for it. If you have ever taken Zyrtec, Anti Histamine, Penicillin, Panadol or any store drugs since you could make the decision you are being a hypocrite. Because guess what... Penicillin was an experimental drugs too. Heck don't even use alcohol swaps on your wounds. What makes you think those are safe. Be careful about even your fucking detergent

[@SJ-cs7uf]

@@yeflynne My grandma's neighbour's daughter got a polio at the age of 2 and it was in the late 1960s. They lived in one of the best suites at a time and she was not "around shit" all day. Her mom was a nurse and a cleaning freak. But her daughter was not vaccinated at a time, not sure why. Luckily and thanks to her mother who did exercises with her, she was able to walk again.

[@feywildheart2878]

After the deep-dive that Hbomberguy did regarding Wakefield, John's practically pouring praise onto him. Wakefield is a man who, when hired by a lawmaker hoping to profit from vaccinations, abused children, altered findings to claim an apparent connection between autism and an intestinal disorder after patenting his own measles vaccine that was so flawed, it would never have passed testing. Given the resources to further expand upon his findings, he waffed it, because he knew he could not replicate his study under strict scrutiny. When a reporter, Brian Deer, investigated, Wakefield tried to silence him in a lawsuit, then dropped it when the judge ruled that Deer would have full, unredacted entry into Wakefield's notes and findings. This was a man that was PRO vaccine wanting to make money, now stuck with an ANTI vaccine audience to survive and remain relevant, even appearing on Infowars, a man who also makes up things in order to make money.

[@CmdrShepard95]

Yeah, looking back after H. Bomberguy’s recent video about this, I wish John had gone more in depth about Wakefield and his “study” and just how flawed and bad it really was.

[@mortuos557]

to be fair to john.... he's gotta keep it to less than 30 min.

[@pugachevskobra5636]

He didn't have nearly enough time to dive into the Wakefield/British antivax movement so he just covered the basics, which are: Wakefield is a dumb shithead and his medical license was taken due to that and he got a lot of people killed via misinformation.

[@colbyscornerYT]

​@@mortuos557Exactly. Also Oliver's team only has a week to research things, not years.

[@maevef9097]

I live in Minnesota. And once I had a cut and had to go to the Emergency room. A little boy and his mom came in and the little boy had measles. I wish the people who don't vaccinate saw that little boy and how miserable he looked and how scared his mother was. Just saying. By the way, the Mall of America is more disappointing than I am to my parents.

[@ADerpyReality]

My brothers sister doesn't vaccinate. Her daughter has gotten whooping cough, measles and gets sick more often than other kids.

[@willdenham]

TheBookWorm1718 Asolute bullshit, vitamin A does not prevent measles. Why would a renowned clinic espouse this kind of junk nutrition based non-science? Totally unethical and irresponsible to be spreading garbage like this when kids can be killed with such ignorance. BTW, here's a link to what mayo and all major clinics/hospitals actually recommend. It is, rather only pointed out that vit A deficiency will cause more severe symptoms, not actual contraction of said virus, you either misread that part or have deliberately distorted it to spread pseudo/non-science out of vaccine hysteria. I included the article with mention of A. www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/expert-answers/getting-measles-after-vaccination/faq-20125397 www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857

[@fargoth7]

@@offmeta273 are you a fucking robot? You realize that vaccines are a complete and total scam right? Have you ever read the ingredients on these things? You should go read section 13.1 on the insert for all these vaccines. Under that section it will state that literally none of these shots have been assessed for carcinogenic potential, mutagenic potential, or potential to impair fertility. Sound safe to you? You fucking simpleton?

[@finalcut612]

@@fargoth7 Package inserts are NOT gospel. Scientific consensus across the entire world is that vaccines are safe and SAVE LIVES. We know that vaccines don't cause these issues because we've studied the formula for making them at an incredibly in-depth level.

[@fargoth7]

@@finalcut612 you fucking moron, you've never read a single piece of scientific literature in your life. I HAVE. I work in a NEUROIMMUNOLOGY lab. I understand how the immune system interacts with the brain. Did you know that in 1986 Congress made it illegal to sue vaccine companies? And since then the number of vaccines on the CDC schedule has gone from 10 to 56. And the autism rate has gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 36. And its NOT because of "better diagnosis"

[@scottpreston5074]

My dad took a flu vaccine shot every year from the age of 61; it finally killed him at age 106. May your son live long and prosper.

[@kjartanruminy6297]

Scott Preston I don’t... I don’t understand

[@michaelrose4444]

BS

[@lenguamuerto]

cool story, bro

[@OfftoShambala]

my dad got one flu shot and within 2 days he died .... your dad was much better at russian roulette than mine

[@greenspringvalley]

A long time ago my Aunt's friend went into a permanent coma from a flu vaccine. My Mom used to visit her in the hospital.

[@siennaross6704]

So re. the whole, "the age when kids get the MMA vaccine is the age that diagnosable signs of autism start to appear". I have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). I have severe insomnia, which is common for ASD, and I'm told I had it from basically day one. Mind you, that's anecdotal, and it's difficult to distinguish signs of autism from normal variations in infant sleeping habits. Still pretty interesting to consider that you might be able to observe subtle indications of ASD in preverbal children, possibly another route to consider in terms of proving there's no correlation? Not that I want to encourage more pointless studies, but I'd like people to vaccinate more and if that's what it takes.

[@jayjonas]

I can't believe he insults the poor little fishes. He probably lives on his own, surrounded by jars he's to weak to open by himself.

[@Googles_Hands]

@@richardsmart4988 He was making a reference to a joke from a previous episode.

[@mainmast8955]

he probly eats pickles with glass shards because he can only open the jars with a hammer.

[@patricknealon6472]

Tomorrow he will be sued by a group of fish for defamation of character.

[@vincentiaklunyuie8563]

medical vertues of water melon

[@wilsonrandolph540]

You're probably a dumb fish.

[@FoD117]

This was fucking hilarious. You should have more upvotes.

[@burystan]

it is school of fish not group

[@ManfredDudesonVonGuy]

"There's no such thing as an unbiased source" Yes, there is. It's called "scientific consensus" and it's the best metric of truth as we currently know it that exists. Consensus is the aggregate of what we know with multiple lines of evidence pointing to the same conclusion. When the evidence proves the same thing time and again, we reach a solid consensus that is separate from bias; all the biases of individual researchers cancel out and we arrive at the closest approximation of truth available. That is an unbiased source of knowledge.

[@Aethelia]

...we can all just ignore the nutjob who thinks that knowing science makes you a "sheep" right? Unfortunate that he was the first to reply to you.

[@ManfredDudesonVonGuy]

@VERBALMILITIA As much as I hate being goaded into replying, I must. Science is not what we know; it is the process of how we know. At first, scientists look at individual aspects of a question. Each experiment either confirms or refutes the underlying claim. Then more scientitsts look at the same question, develop different tests independently, and test again. This process repeats over and over, and the results do one of two things. In one case many well designed and well controlled experiments and studies point to the same root causes of a phenomenon, at which point evidence to the contrary requires extraordinary proof to be considered; this is the case for things like evolution, general relativity, cell theory, germ theory, the efficacy of vaccination, and many other things. In the opposite case, the evidence diverges, and either alternative explanations must be explored or the cause and effect relationship be dismissed;this is the case for things like homeopathy, spontaneous generation, the four humours theory of medicine, and many other disproven ideas. I suspect from what you say that you are a soverign citizen. If true, I concede that you are not worth responding to in future.

[@thelifeaquaticwithrobbull2930]

@VERBALMILITIA dude, you are deranged....seek help immediately. Seriously. Also, I find it amusing that your name is VERBALMILITIA, yet your command of the English language is so poor.

[@adrianpip2000]

That's an impressively incoherent 26-comment one-man rant.

[@MadmanZachary]

VERBALMILITIA do you need a hug,or something?You sound really upset for no reason. Let people be people. Except when people make decisions that can kill others, are told that the decision can kill others,but just say”ItS My ChOIcE,AnD OnLY AffECTs ME”. Then we need to inform them of the science that shows us the reality of a world that has people believe in illusions and deception of the human mind. Science can lead to a truth,blind faith is the death of science and reason,but having trust and the ability to tell what’s the truth ands what’s a delusion and what’s reality, both faith and science must live and work together,or death will follow us all to the bitter end.

[@late8641]

3:57 Imagine back when only 1% of parents didn't vaccinate their kids. Those were the days...

[@john2477]

I was vaccinated as a young child and now that I am past 60, my hair has begun to turn grey and thin out. I now am gaining weight and I'm having trouble losing it. But at least I am grateful that I DIDN'T DIE AS A BABY!!!!

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

All vaccinated people go trough that. It is because you where vaccinated as a child that is happening to you.. 🤣🙃

[@hareecionelson5875]

I'm tempted to post "I didn't get Polio today" on my facebook

[@mokeymale8350]

So what I got from this is that John Oliver has no proof that he doesn't live alone surrounded by jars that he can't open. We're on to you Oliver

[@sirdeadlock]

Ryan Jacobs Bet you they're olive jars. He is John, the Oliver.

[@vikio452]

Ryan Jacobs - Well he has that adorable baby photo. Which at the very least proves he lives with a baby, surrounded by jars neither one of them can open.

[@alexlawson9950]

Ryan Jacobs I saw a picture of him sitting around a whole bunch of unopened jars. That's proof enough for me.

[@Lordlose123]

Well 26:46 is kind of a proof, i guess?

[@AllyZieMage]

so i scrolled down to check comments right as he said that line, and read your post while he said it. It was uncanny.

[@logidodoplyz7302]

The reason more people are autistic is because 30 years ago we didn't know what autism was.

[@midnitest0rm]

LogidodoPlyz and because fifty years ago we just threw them in a padded cell in a straight jacket. Not only that but people have kids at older ages now, which is literally proven to have a direct link with neurological disorders

[@gredn8413]

Exactly, you were just the odd person 50 years ago. I recall the Tumblr post where it said that mothers 500 years ago who thought that faes stole their children in the night and replaced them with their own children were really just autistic, it's just we didn't know what autism was 😭 or you were just thought of as "well, Jeb's a little special and he don't like to talk much, but he gets his chores done so he's a good boy" basically 😭

[@danasmall6104]

My whole thing with the autism argument is would you rather have a kid with autism or a kid who's dead? There is a correct answer and if you get it wrong you don't deserve to be a parent

[@logidodoplyz7302]

@@danasmall6104 I know someone who is Autistic and he is a really good person and loves things. He has trouble with some things, but he's at least alive and having a happy life.

[@crotchrocketXx]

I believe there was a myth in japan that mental disorders of all kinds were the results of being possessed by yokai or foxes.

[@quetzalthegamer]

I love that he talks about his own child at the very end.

[@mushu_beardie2556]

I feel like he wanted an excuse to show off his adorable baby, and I'm all for it!

[@agarsrish]

@@mushu_beardie2556 ikr!!! And i was amazed by how LITTLE that boy was! John's face looked huge in comparison

[@actownsend7288]

@@mushu_beardie2556Yeah my guess both.

[@actownsend7288]

Me too and now he has a little brother. Hope John and Kate remind them it’s important to be funny smart and compassionate.

[@lukewarmsoup3686]

my grandmother remembers visiting her brother at an institution for children with polio, she remembers losing cousins to measles, she remembers the relief the vaccines brought to her parents and the whole community. she says she'll be first in line for a Covid19 vaccine. And yet, her daughter/my mother, is antivax because of "studies" that she can't source. I got mostly caught up on vaccines in secret, over time, and out of my own pocket when I was 18-19. vaccines are safe, they work, and they should be required.

[@richardgregory3684]

Yep, the anti-vaccine movement is driven in part by the success of vaccines. Grandmother remembers how terrible those epidemics were, how many people got sick, disabled, or died from them. People queued up to get vaccinated as they rightly feared disease. Your mother grew up ina vaccine world, and so experience the epidemics. So she doesn;t fear disease as she hasn;t experienced it...therefore he fear of vaccines is greater, espescially as there is so much garbage on crank websites designed to frighten people. It's sad but the only thing that would work on you rmother is a major epidemic and where the unvaccinated people get sick and die but the vaccinated people don't. We have an example righ tnow of what the pre-vaccine world was like. The current pandemic would have been considered quite normal. Measles routinely infected pretyt much everyone and killed at least two m,illion people every single year.

[@richardgregory3684]

@Lizzie Allen _In the 1950s measles only accounted for 500 deaths in the United States of America which then had a population of 150,000,000._ And after vaccination that number dropped radically, and in many years was actually zero. Moreover, you don't mention the fact that the annual average of people made sick enough to require hospitalisation (most of them children) was 48,000. And of course, even a mild case of measles is a pretty nasty thing. Don;t you think it;s worth preventing 500 deaths and almost 50,000 hospitalisations every year? Now of course, you're only talking about measles, which is for most people a _relatively_ mild illness, we vaccinate against much worse things that measles.

[@ingridakerblom7577]

@Lizzie Allen "only 500", how can't you understand that (low number) is thanks to a vaccine being avaliable & used for years & years.. 🤦‍♀️ without a vaccine it would be much higher..

[@anonymousunknown5812]

Nah fuck recommending they have to be forced

[@kristiallman5676]

Your an asshole! My child has vaccines at every appointment when her brain should have been growing and her immune system building itself. At day one of birth she had hepatitis b which is not needed for babies who aren't sexually active. Each shot has aluminum and listed side effects like SIDS. At her 2 month visit she received 8 vaccines all with aluminum at levels higher than the fda deems safe, DNA protein, lactose proteins in each shot. When you are young the brain barrier is open and your more able to be brain damaged. Measles is bad when your immune system can't defend against it. Yet a tiny baby is injected with 8 weakened viruses and other ingredients known as unhealthy and expected not to have a bad reaction? Your mom might have saved you from autism but you are going to load up on aluminum filled vaccines anyways huh. Goodluck developing an autoimmune disease which are really common now. Goodluck kid. Idiot!

[@rosellaaalm-ahearn1760]

Before measles vaccine I had measles when I was seven years old. It was a miserable disease. I had a rash all over my body, a headache that lasted most of the time I was sick, staying in a darkened room, as measles was known to affect your eyes. I would have preferred a shot. When the polio vaccine became available, when I was nine years old, we were lined up at school and given the shot. I also received a smallpox vaccination, somewhat earlier. No one fooled around in those days. Anything was better than the diseases that I was vaccinated against.

[@lawrencesmith4960]

Rosella A Alm-Ahearn Look into the highly controversial topic of vaccine shedding. After a vaccine is used, a person may remain a source of contamination for up to two weeks as the body tries to shed off portions of the vaccine. This is real and admitted but never really considered, most are not even aware. You will always get denial of any wrong doing about vaccines on any official medical site... Right.. thats why billion dollar funds providing payout to litigants exist, on the signed condition they remain silent. Everything is potential and everyone is different. The best you can do is minimize your odds by avoiding what you don't need. For instance, its a trade off on catching a serious illness, if i don't vaccinate vs putting the crap into your body they use to preserve or stabilize the vaccine such as mercury or aluminum. Why would i do this for a common flu when admittedly most dont work anyways because a virus will mutate, so by the time the vaccine is sold, the virus or contaminant has changed. Follow the money trail, bribes, political lobbying, corporate greed.

[@Scrubjay457]

Lawrence Smith I'm very confused about the relevance of this comment.

[@Naychikayabun]

Lawrence Smith i’m curious. May i know the source of whatever ur saying?

[@kieran6315]

"Shedding" is only possible with live attenuated vaccines (many are killed or acellular), isn't very common, and is through feces only. So unless these people "getting infected by shedding" are eating feces, they were not infected by shedding. The mercury type used as a preservative is ethylmercury, which fully clears from the body in ten days. Methylmercury is the type found in tuna, and it sticks around for decades. I bet you don't shy away from eating tuna or other fish, do you? In which case, you are consuming the dangerous type of mercury in massive quantities as compared to the harmless kind of mercury in a tiny dose. Your body naturally contains more aluminum in circulation that is in vaccines. And before you pull out formaldehyde as a problem, you should know that a pear contains 100x the amount of formaldehyde of vaccines. I bet you still eat pears, though.

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

I'm 53, there were no MMR vaccines when I was a kid. I had measles and rubella (fortunately not mumps). I made damn sure my kids got vaccinated. They are horrible diseases and I was damn lucky I never had any long-term problems. My kids are grateful I made sure they're all immune to all of the diseases for which there were vaccines for.

[@OrionoftheStar]

A sudden and mysterious lack of spiders is, in fact, something to fear.

[@gravemind883]

yyyyeeeahhhhhhhhhhh even with arachnophobia that's not a good thing to notice...

[@JamesShore1990]

Ya because it means the basilisk has waken up.

[@jakenasewich490]

OrionoftheStar it could be the basilisk... everyone get your emergency rooster

[@OrionoftheStar]

Well... true, a basilisk is a pretty scary monster to discover. But a more important consideration is... if the spiders aren't where you can see them, _where are they?_

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

I love you JamesShore1990.

[@censusgary]

“Trust me, I used to be a doctor, before my license was revoked.”

[@SueRosalie]

@lcyw20 I prefer to describe him as a narcissist and psychopath who has never shown remorse and is directly responsible now for the deaths of hundreds of children.

[@drkushajagadeesh6347]

If I was the one investigating him, I'd've totally done the Lethal Weapon "Just been revoked!" bit. 😂

[@KCRycePatty]

I lost my medical license after I ran away from my patient who’s skeleton I had removed

[@ninjawiz7932]

@@KCRycePatty Don't worry, ribs gros back!

[@baron2062]

" I wish there was someone to ask, I wish there was an unbiased scource." I have on for you, its called a doctor, with actual medical credentials, how about starting there

[@midnitest0rm]

alex moller well technically speaking, there is no such thing as an unbiased source because there’s some degree of bias in literally everything, but the concept still applies. Doctors have received years of training and they know what is best for you. But what you forget is that anti vaxxers have this strategy- it’s called not listening and ignoring facts

[@ashleygoggs5679]

@@midnitest0rm Very true, i had an argument with an anti-vaxxer here on youtube a few months ago. No joke they listed about 20 links of "proof" vaccines where damaging too children. I read through every single one and not one listed in any way that they where seriously harmful. She game me one from the CDC explaining side effects, most of them where allergic reactions. She tells me well what about the one which says extreme brain damage i tell her ok well it says incredibly rare and shows cases are so small that they are too hard to connect to the vaccine, so must have been maybe 10 - 30 cases in the US maybe. But every source she would give me it was like you skimmed it all and picked bad words like brain damaged, death, vegetative, extreme whatever without reading odds or seeing that cases where so damn rare that it was impossible to link them to vaccines due to the amount of people who had suffered these "symptoms". I was utterly amazed at the fact that every single source given literally disproved the paragraphs of disinformation she hurled at me wrong.

[@darklordcbooty8378]

Like god forbid a person spends 7 years studying the human body and have people skills and even worse student loans. They are biased for human life

[@carolinebender61]

Ashley, with that attitude, they should invest at the casino because they honestly think that their child will be the one that gets the reaction. 😕

[@lilowhitney8614]

@@ashleygoggs5679 You have my respect for trying to engage with them in a way that would be meaningful if they weren't braindead

[@CMGThePerson]

As an autistic man it feels really normal actually. Doesn't really feel like a disability at all. I just suck at social cues a bit but that's it

[@benjamin7328]

CMG The Person yo same. I’m on the spectrum and i suck w cues but I never blame it on vaccines

[@elliekennedyy]

my twin sister is on the spectrum and she HATES when people put their child’s lives in danger because of the autism excuse

[@rmrevoir]

And good friends don’t give a shit. One of my good buddies is on the spectrum and I know and understand that and I don’t judge him or really give a shit. Just like I’m partially deaf so I’m really loud sometimes. People know that about me and if you’re my friend you don’t really care. The autism argument is moronic, even if it did have any scientific validity

[@MasterArchfiend]

The only real struggle with being autistic is dealing with people who don't understand. It doesn't matter where you are on the spectrum, as long as you have people who understand you, then there are no obstacles too great to conquer.

[@rmrevoir]

Krys Williams great explanation man. I feel similarly as a person with pretty crazy ADHD. I’m super hyper but all my know this and understand I can’t help it and it’s just a part of my personality. Good friends don’t care, and people who do care aren’t good friends, you know? It’s all good, we’re all different in our own ways, and that’s what makes us special

[@flamingfoxx]

My grandma (92) frequently talks about how people lined up in excitement for the polio vaccine. She still has the scar. Her friends have gotten shingles, and one of them recently died from complications. You don't fuck with measles, it is extremely serious She has seen multiple wars, genocide, multiple pan and epidemics, the Great Depression, emigration to the US, being half Persian during 9/11 and the war on terror, and her home city being bombed during the blitz. Her husband (my grandfather) watched from the upstairs bedroom while the neighbor across the street was flattened by a bomb. I saw it when I was in England, and it's maybe 15-20 meters from his front door This woman has seen all the shit humanity has to offer, and every time we talk she sounds so disappointed in this country. Deeply, deeply disappointed. She jokes about how Trump is too ugly or Biden is too ancient to run (her words), or how she's glad "I'll be dead before then, good luck", but it's truly a horrible thing to witness. She has lost so many people to diseases that are now preventable, and she has to watch these people throw all that away

[@ducheswannabe]

I should call my mom and thank her for regularly vaccinating me. She is a good mom...

[@arcanegianterinokripperino9945]

you forgot mothers day right ?

[@ducheswannabe]

Arcane Gianterino Kripperino LOL I wouldn't be alive right now if i'd forgotten Mother's day

[@malikoniousjoe]

jocaguz18 Yuwotm8?

[@michaelfixedsys7463]

Being competent isn’t being exceptional. But you should thank her

[@Pvp10v]

OnlyThe Ghosts where did you find the link between vaccines and allergies? The mechanism that would cause this does not make sense. How would the mast cells be affected by vaccines? Why would they be hypersensitive to allergens that werent in the vaccines? The mast cells are on a completely different system from the memory cells that form your specific immunity

[@thehighnoonsaloon7794]

"This bomb strapped to my chest is just a personal decision, the only person I'm endangering is me"

[@reflectiononthesea9153]

cool..

[@thehighnoonsaloon7794]

​I like the 2 periods.

[@thehighnoonsaloon7794]

@@tonyhursit9757 I sometimes forget people like you exist tbh, thanks for reminding me

[@fanny45641]

Tony Hursit please say sike right now

[@thehighnoonsaloon7794]

@@fanny45641 He wont, sadly

[@kilroy987]

May your son open many jars for you.

[@thatbadplayer2243]

kilroy987 yes. Just so much yes

[@calebmauer1751]

And may you have a daughter who can fit her hand into a Pringles can for you.

[@shadymello9146]

The "not horse" part has aged like fine wine 🤣🤣🤣

[@KayleeFarnes]

Oh my gosh ☠