Valiant Pacer engine teardown!

[@billyhong5071]

Don’t give up on that donk so easily. All of the cool factor will be gone if you drop something else into it.

[@lancertheprancer1505]

Get it cleaned up and talk to an engine machiner, you will probably be surprised what they can do. That car and engine belong together

[@vintagetintrader1062]

Having a 4mm rust flake is not 4mm of missing cast iron, when steel rusts it expands considerably (there must be a calculation to work it out) I would be pulling it apart and getting it hot tanked. Fit a T5 from a XF 6 cylinder, simple to fit and usually just a simple spacer plate for in front of the gearbox between the bellhousing to space the input shaft. Just call up Dellows or a gearbox swap specialist like that.

[@jason2533]

Get the block chemically cleaned and assessed, worst case scenario you may have to sleeve the bores. It’ll probably be fine.

[@oldskoolonly]

I almost feel like I need to rescue that car from you!

[@oldskoolonly]

Don’t over think it dude, I seriously doubt there’s anything wrong with that block.. that’s if you want to keep it OG. Easy rebuilder. I’ve played with much worse. Plus I still recon you should go for full rego on it.. I would for sure

[@andrewkirk8687]

+1 for this. The slant 6 core would be saveable. Strip it back and drop the block and crank into a machine shop. Hot tank will do wonders, 30tho on the bores and linish 10tho on the mains and big ends on the crank will be good as new. New set of pistons and rods, get another head with some port work. Will be sweet runner. Also I’d get a single rail 4speed to put behind it.

[@oldskoolonly]

Gearbox is toast but there’s a million of them around.. don’t give up on it man

[@andrewkirk8687]

The slant 6 core would be saveable. Strip it back and drop the block and crank into a machine shop. Hot tank will do wonders, 30tho on the bores and linish 10tho on the mains and big ends on the crank will be good as new. New set of pistons and rods, get another head with some port work. Will be sweet runner. Also I’d get a single rail 4speed to put behind it.

[@jaceNZ75]

I had to wait 2 days for the old man to get back so we could both watch. He's been waiting since the first Pacer vid. He has the same car in a garage "on blocks" surrounded by "parts" for over 20years now, watching you gave him "inspiration" to organize parts "again"👍

[@AutomotiveKarnage]

awesome dude. That's what its about aye, getting this old cars back up and running to be enjoyed.

[@paulorchard7960]

DJ, its a pacer man, dont give up on it! Try hard to keep it all! Drop the block and gearbox in an open top drum, fill it with diesel and let it soak for a month, you will be surprised! Worth saving mate!🇦🇺👍

[@bruceaskin9645]

The gearbox , just taking a guess, Borg Warner ??? could actually be the same box used in old holdens etc. Which would mean that you would only need the bell housing.

[@philb386]

I put an F100 6 cyl and old 3 speed from an XY into a VE wayfarer ute. The column change linkages fitted straight on the falcon box ,( same B/W 3 speed)and I only changed one side engine mount on the cross member, cut it of and welded on a bit of box section.The Val drive shaft went straight back in. Only took a weekend to do.

[@johnvender]

My first thought was a modestly worked 225 with a refreshed three speed box like the dead one, but then I thought VG Pacer 245 with either Option 34 or Option 35 and the Pacer manual gearbox on the back of it. I feel it would be more cool with all Pacer parts than with engine and gearbox from something not Valiant.

[@bruceaskin9645]

Here is the thing with rust, it swells, that 4mm rust flake is likely to only be a mm or two of actual steel , this old engine will have plenty to spare. Go the original, and a rego rebuild.

[@gashy1000]

Agree and what do you think about the gearbox, strip it and acid bath ? Andy from Adelaide.

[@bruceaskin9645]

@gashy1000 I think the gearbox is toast, but is possibly the same as a Holden or Ford, just a bell housing change

[@reganmcn3899]

I could see it having a mild or heavily worked 265 with a 4 or 3 speed

[@stib7365]

No doubt,original bores can be sleeved,cranks ground,head reconditioned, im in wa been around cars for 50 years,you blokes should know all this,original,original ,now days

[@scratchmibolzitch5002]

Gearbox can be saved. Keep all the cases and source another box with good internals. Ford's used the same box. Reco kits are cheap. I hope you can save everything and keep it all matching. Good onya.

[@ScottElliott152]

This should be interesting pulling down an old Valiant engine ... be great if you can get it going one day.

[@bryanoconnor3510]

Valiant 3 speeds are dime a dozen and cheap as they’re normally ditched in favour of 4 or 5 speed. They’re not numbers matching to Pacers either. Maybe set the 225 aside and put in a 245 or 265. Touch base with Dave (Y.T channel Coopzcarz) he’s in NSW though.

[@brianandglendaharkin9457]

Owned a VF Pacer in dark blue in 79 plus a mustard VG pacer and a VH factory 4 speed Pacer in 1980 man do I miss pacers .

[@lukasmalcolm1522]

Loving the pacer content but keen as to see the little Corolla all done!

[@frankno2plus1]

I've got a 4 speed single rail g/box minus shifter in Melbourne you can have, came of a Falcon 6cyl condition unknown?

[@brianandglendaharkin9457]

VF Pacer sat a bit lower and came with 5 half inch rims . I had 7 inch alloys with TA tyres . My bother had one with 60 thou over 350 Holley and extractor split into twin 3 cylinder out one and 3 out the other man did it sound great . Sounded a bit like a hot V6 Capri 🤔. It sat low all round with 7 inch black rims . It put my other brother 307 HK to shame . RIP Scott . There is other tips to get these slants to fly.👍🏻💯🇦🇺⛽️.

[@JeffreySambell]

a VF pacer gearbox should be pretty easy to find. if you can't find one. the ratio's were just a standard ratio. so i wouldn't be too worried about the gearbox. hopefully you can save the motor.

[@morantaylor]

Soak the transmission in diesel and let it soak, Graham did the same with the tanks transmission. You could always try vinegar first to disolve the rust.

[@ashfrye8312]

Definitely keep the 225. You might be able to do a complete rebuild in the 3 speed with all new internals, if not buy another 3 speed.

[@Bobbyelijah]

The 225 in that condition probably fire up these engines are very hard to kill 😅

[@brianandglendaharkin9457]

VF Pacer had a higher compression head . And a free flow exhaust mine had 3.23 lsd .

[@brucebird133]

the engine will be saveable... but wont be cheap... scary dollars.. Depends what your plans are - bring it back to showroom condition or just driveable... The gearbox would be easy to find

[@GoneFalconcampin]

The Windsor v8 from that fairlane a few vids ago would fit alright

[@ryanford8702]

Pretty sure the guts of the P76 3 speed are the same. They share clutches many common parts.

[@OldCaravans]

The first Hemi came out in the VF. Code VFX. Infact 2 came out in VF Pacers station wagons. VFX 7 S 45 19 and VFX 7 S 45-20. Pity I can't post photo's.

[@StormHawksHD]

3sge beams swap. You did say you knew where to get them cheap. Dream 3s build would be 5sfe 2.2L block with 3sge beams head and a nice turbski.

[@AussieGarage]

that sux mate, I was hoping you could get that one rebuild for the Pacer. Maybe go period correct engine instead?

[@riptwan]

Is is worthwhile to do this? I don't know old Aussie cars hardly at all, but I like the vids you make

[@keithbutler3920]

A Toyota 2 JZ Engine would suit it nicely

[@George-gv8ny]

Just sleeve the block. That'll cure both problems. Back to STD bore and nice thicness of metal btween the cyl and water jacket.

[@savocurlija2168]

That healthy V8 Fairlane driveline you've got waiting to go. Was it NA or NF from memory?

[@Cabalero24]

замочи блок в солярке, посмотрим что будет через неделю. этот двигатель стоит сохранить, у него большой запас прочности, не вкладывай мног денег, просто попробуй починить простыми способами.

[@RagdollRacingInc]

Fix the Bloody original engine mate keep it ridgy didge 👌

[@davidnetherway4734]

that might be slick 50 coating everything it was common to be used back in the day

[@waynethompson5895]

350 sbc and rock crusher with headers and small blower! That should fix the Ole girl

[@bigears4014]

They can resleeve any bad bore

[@waynesummers7384]

Hit up Scott at Street Machine and maybe he can point you in the right direction

[@bengepp9314]

Barra Pacer home job turbs set-up . *edit , it is an OG Pacer worthy 💙🇦🇺@5000#home#birth

[@downtheshedwithbyron]

Bro id get that block and box cleaned up they check it out again

[@bigears4014]

Even the box , get another one and swap the guts

[@aaronobrien322]

Awesum cars awesum persentation. . .you should rename to awesumotive karnage🤘🏻😂cheers!🍺

[@dogmatix2008]

318 or 360 V8

[@EricaMTB]

Rust is seven times the thickness of the metal corroded.

[@markhorrell9213]

That engine block can be resleaved, n with acid dipping it would be salvageable. Old pacers with matching number's are worth good money. Gearbox's are available n it's nicer to keep it period correct than fuck about with it. That said..it's your baby n u call the shots.

[@benni727]

if it'd not going on the road just slap a runner 265 in it. and keep the std block aside if ya end up selling it

[@austincjett]

I'd rather see goopy and oily, than rust.

[@brianandglendaharkin9457]

Find a VG Pacer motor and 3 speed the way to go 👍🏻💯🇦🇺⛽️

[@neilallen1403]

245 Hemi and 3 speed manual transmission very cheap option and the vfx model

[@dallasstepto8409]

Do something other than an ls conversion put an iron lion in it

[@malcolmyarnold6172]

Hi mate I would put a 265 4 speed

[@OldCaravans]

Leave the engine bay Hemi Orange. If ya want a black engine bay, buy a Holden.

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[@billdingpermit9847]

LS THE WORLD

[@OldCaravans]

The original; VF Pacer gearbox wasn't anything special. Just drop a 3 speed out of a Centura in it or out of any plane Jane Valiant.

[@-Scotty]

318 fireball

[@peterbelyea8280]

acid dip

[@brettgordon8142]

just add oil your out there in mad Max land make it work giving up is for quiters

[@unokarpa4405]

иметь кузов и двигатель на одних номерах - большой шик, помой родной двигатель кёрхером, если двигатель не дырявый то можно сделать бюджетное восстановление запчастями бывшими в употреблении, когда двигатель запустится будет понятно есть ли смысл вкладываться в новые запчасти на двигатель или вскроются скрытые изъяны и будет понятно что двигатель мёртв окончательно.

[@R.T_Go_Your_Own_Way]

Barra swap

[@daveg1640]

318

[@paulriggers1558]

you have probably lost 1mm off the block, ie no sweat, nice hot acid bath, keep the car original if you can as long as you replace gbox with original type, no problems there crappy original cars are worth more than modded ones, hell knows why...

[@stevenbullock9274]

Ls1

[@stefantrnacek1394]

I know it is rare, but try and find an aluminium slant 6 from the States and attach a 4 speed.