Value In The Knife World. What is it?

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-Expanding on some further thoughts on this knife and the value it represents in the industry and some aggravation with what is considered a "value". Rock on!

[@jmbwashi]

They just came back in stock and now have a tip up carry clip placement.

[@j-rush2266]

Where did you find the tip up crry option for sale? I have not been able to find it yet?

[@davidmathews2124]

I recently got the black stonewashed version. I’ve got lots of really really good knives and this is the one that I now carry around. Brilliant!

[@KGatLC]

I don't know, Jon. I think I'd have to put the Spyderco Byrd series right in there with the CRKT and Kershaw knives. They're all wearing the soft 8Cr13MoV steel.

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

KGatLC thanks for commenting! You’re right for the most part however the Byrd Raven 2 has BD1 Steel which is a killer value for $40 ish. I think one or two of the other models also have BD1 at the same price point now as well. Not to mention Sal is talking about making the switch over to BD1N soon on those knives which will represent a HUGE value if the price doesn’t jump too much because of it. Rock on!

[@KGatLC]

Ranger Jon Outdoors Thanks, Guess I'll give them another look.

[@bladecentered2264]

I just got this knife and did a video on it and completely agree with you. I think this is the best knife for the money you can buy.

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

Thanks for watching and commenting Blade Centered! It makes you wonder what we are going to start seeing in this price category in the next couple years, or if everyone is holding back what they can really produce for us at this price point. LAPG isn't a knife company, or really a well known company for anything so seeing a knife this good come from them was a total shocker of the year last year. Rock on.

[@frederickj.7136]

Agreed completely, in my experience to date. People who turn up their noses on this one are missing out. And it's a great complement to my Slip-it & backlock Spydercos (Urban sprint run; Chaparral 1; Native 5 LW; Stretch 1-LW) for hours of insanely great flippin', drop closin' fun.

[@pmunson7063]

This was a good deal. It is, "out of stock and no longer available".

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

Wow. I figured they'd run out eventually. It was a great sleeper knife for sure.

[@demitrisolvinski]

I agree that this knife and the Ruike p801 are arguably the best value in knives under $50. BUT.... Kershaw Dividend M390 - $75 Kershaw Camber S30V - $50 Spend a few bucks more and USA made Kershaw knives hold their own in value and performance. Also love the RAT2 in D2 for $40

[@robreadinger5340]

I agree with you 100% about major US knife manufactures stepping on their game with their knives( at least adjust pricing for what you actually get). Especially with the quality competition now from overseas. but I just doubt that will happen because hey 'made in America'

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

American Labor is just expensive. Thats the way the world works. However Kershaw made some decently affordable knives in the USA last year with M390 steel for under $100 so if they can do it to a decent degree, then I am sure the other big companies can figure it out too. Made in USA isn't terribly important to me though. If it is an option of course I'll take it but the world functions as a global economy and thats just the way it is sometimes.

[@jmbwashi]

Which would you recommend this one vs the Byrd Raven2? It would be cool to see a comparison of this knife to the Byrd Raven 2.

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

John Baker that would make a really great video! I’ll have to do that actually. The two really compare well and compete well with each other just for totally separate reasons. I’d say if you value blade steel above all else, then the TBFK. But if ergonomics and attention to details are more important to you, and BD1 steel won’t bother you ( I really enjoy BD1), then the Byrd Raven. Thanks for the comment and stay tuned for that vid now! Haha

[@jpulli1509]

Amen, I'm done buying 8cr13mov knives. There are too many options out there.

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

Yeah no reason these days for that steel to exist anymore I think.

[@pop4803]

Thanks for the head up ,this is a killer. How much does it weigh? Thanks Harry

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

Hey Harry sorry for the late reply. It's a little weighty, probably somewhere around 4 ounces or so I am not to sure I haven't weighed any of my knives. Thanks for watching!

[@frederickj.7136]

My example (and I love it!): 138 grams / 4.87 ounces. You could do a sensibly measured skeletonizing job on the painted steel liners yourself if you've got the chops for that. This knife is worth the effort, if you've got one as spot-on as mine. In any event, this knife carries much more comfortably in the pocket than you might think (the scales contouring helps with that, I find); and I'm normally a gram counter, for sure.

[@MrAliaspostmortem]

You are missing one important thing. Bladesteel isn't worth a damned if not correctly heat treated or with a good geometry. It's more important than the steel itself, to a certain point of course. This "Super steel" thing in pocket knives is getting ridiculous.

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

MrAliaspostmortem I’m not going to disagree with you. However none of the knives I mention as great values including the TBFK have any issues with poor heat treat or geometry. Ruike, Byrd, Kizer, Real Steel, and especially this TBFK are all very solid in that regard.

[@eldridgeyoung2763]

That s35vn is fake not real at all

[@rangerjonoutdoors6429]

Eldridge Young I’d beg to differ. I’ve used the knife extensively as an actual owner and it performs exactly how S35VN should. Good ole Pete did his usual rope test as well and got similar results. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3K6eoKuqKeNras Thanks for watching!

[@frederickj.7136]

I might suggest that your bereft of evidence public opinion is what is fake here, Eldridge. Thank goodness our best scientists, as politically beleaguered as many are under present circumstances, don't operate the way you do to model reality.

[@nkill1565]

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