Vampire: the Masquerade - Followers of Set Pt. 1 (Lore)

[@lemonnomel9416]

I always found the Setite religion so interesting especially as it evolved across time. There’s a lot of ego involved in claiming yourselves the children of a god but then again what are awakened antediluvians if not the closest thing to a god on earth?

[@ThePrimogen]

Exactly! I find the idea of a clan actually working in semi-unison interesting and refreshing, considering how absolutely fractitious some of the other clans are. Set's children may have the occasional screw ups, heretics and rogue bloodlines, but at least the majority of the clan is working towards a similar goal.

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

@@ThePrimogen can he fight Cain and Lilith

[@KingOSO-wv7uc]

@@wolfsbanealphas617Yes He ate from the Tree of Life aka The Great Serpent Tiamat she gave of herself willingly combining A Primordial Celestial and God Seed Giving the power of rebirth and primordial influence

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

@@KingOSO-wv7uc thanks for responding I didn’t know he was that badass

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

Wait did n't Lilth do the same and caine has the whole mark from God So how can Set beat them @@KingOSO-wv7uc

[@Onionkid99]

If a secret snake boy pops out of a potted plant and says "You wanna buy some drugs?" then I gotta say, I'm gonna buy those drugs!

[@ThePrimogen]

I would do the Bryan Cranston's "Who, me?" right away.

[@CartesianDuelist]

Great video, thanks for reminding me that The Returned exist by the way, you inspired a last second change in one of my campaigns. The MacGuffin in a coffin talking in my PCs dreams is now a Mummy instead of a Methuselah :P

[@ThePrimogen]

That's awesome! I'm so glad to hear that! The Returned are super cool, The Onyx Path did a kinda-reboot of them recently on Kickstarter and it's super awesome

[@CartesianDuelist]

@@ThePrimogen Yeah I stumbled on Red Moon RPs Mummy 2nd ed campaign recently and fell in love with the mechanics... They make an excellent antagonist.

[@dylanknight2761]

@@CartesianDuelist Greetings fellow Red Moon Role-Playing fan! Gotta say I wasn't interested in the Mummy campaign, but after watching this episode and reading your comment, I think I'll give it a go!

[@Duskwalker68]

Great video as always! The Setites have been the hardest to find information on for me, glad they're getting covered!

[@ThePrimogen]

Thank you! I'm so glad you enjoyed it, and I agree! Many other clans you kind of absorb lore just by reading through the core books, but the Setites have always been very secretive. I'm glad I set out to cover their clan now, and I'll be honest, they're in my top 3 right now!

[@Darkthoughts-z7r]

Apparently, they have two temples in my city (in the lore anyway), never seen them in real life.

[@ThePrimogen]

That's awesome!

[@xayanlau3407]

Have you tried to find them

[@erikbergquist]

Very nice. Remy Vanroy (my tag) is a setite temple guard I'm playing in a setite campaign. :)

[@ThePrimogen]

Ooooh, awesome! :D

[@DavidParedesMata]

I really like your videos. Your knowledge is profound, your storytelling is superb, you are great, Primogen. I wish you could do more wta videos... 😉

[@ThePrimogen]

Thank you so much! I will definitely do more Werewolf videos in the near future, and as W5 comes closer expect to hear more from me :)

[@DavidParedesMata]

@@ThePrimogen I really want to hear more from you, you have a great channel. Thanks you Primogen. Greetings from Spain.

[@ThePrimogen]

@@DavidParedesMata Thank you so much, that is so kind of you to say and it really encourages me to keep going!

[@DavidParedesMata]

@@ThePrimogen I know HOW HARD it is to make this. You make a really hard work to make each video. Both reading and knowing owod and the technical issues, adding the social media and yt policies. You do a hard work. I thank YOU, Primogen.

[@Gangrel442003]

@@ThePrimogen All I can say is, it better have Ron Spencer's art in it.......

[@Gangrel442003]

Wonderful as always Primogen......keep up the fine work......

[@ThePrimogen]

Thank you so much! Your support means so much to me!

[@richardswords8540]

This was an amazing resource for Storyteller studies! Not to mention I was converted to the clan in the last couple days for my personal preference in the 20th anniversary Dark Ages. Now to subscribe and catch up on all the lore!

[@ThePrimogen]

Awesome! I'm super happy to hear it helped you out! That always makes it worth it! Hope the Church of Sutekh is doing you good!

[@fakechemicals]

Good stuff but I suspect we have a dilemma, unlike the Banu Haqim whose new name is the one they've always used; calling the Followers of Set "the Ministry" is newer more inherent to 5th edition. So will you bring the lore up to the point that they decided on their rebranding? Or will you stop just short?

[@Itukaaj]

Scott Wittie I think this is a part 1. See title. There are other clans that have different sections as well

[@ThePrimogen]

That is a really good question and one I struggled with. Usually with my main lore videos I try to cover all the way up to v5 (or v20, depending on how much there is of it) for a few reasons: 1. I don't want to cover too much in detail stuff that's in the more modern books because I feel like that would spoil it for people getting into it. 2. I want these to be companion-pieces to V5 to give a deeper insight into the previous lines of the game. 3. I started out not covering V5 and I feel like I shouldn't yet, since a lot of my older videos don't cover V5 lore at all. So as you can see, it is a HUGE dilemma for me right now, but most likely I will stop right before the Ministry is formed through the Rebranding.

[@fakechemicals]

@@Itukaaj I'm just teasing him over his unwillingness to dig into v5 lore. I watched the video, it ends before the middle ages, there obviously has to be a part 2 at least. But I understand his hesitance to dig into v5 lore. White Wolf keeps a notoriously shaky canon and that's entirely by design. Not a lot of information has been released on what's happened since 2000 save the most important things and of what has been released is liable to be retconned in a later printing nevermind the fact that it's all still completely incomplete what with no answer as to if we'll even see the Ravnos return for this edition and still nothing on my beloved Tzimisce. So I completely understand I'm just teasing because having to create things based off of White Wolf material in a public space such as the internet is always asking for trouble.

[@TekZombi]

V5 is an abomination, I disbelieve as many others have.

[@Demolitiondude]

A Garou/mummy alliance would be awkward when it comes to fight set.

[@ThePrimogen]

Haha, well y'know, the enemy of my enemy... ;)

[@Demolitiondude]

Garou: rip and tear Mummy: your grounded!

[@Glyff3083]

Not if edfu sent a bunch of sefekhi and kher minu... They'd get along well enough if the werewolves could get over feeling like prey around the unbandaged.

[@sanguiniusse434]

Spoilers below In one of the canonical endings of VTM Set doesn't wake up during Gahanna because he got killed by another antediluvian eons ago and like 90% of the Followers of Set commit suicide when they realize daddy is not coming home.

[@Jfa77]

Another antideluvian? Who?

[@MrCaduceo]

Yeah, and in another ending Set is alive, so fuck that shit that completely invalidates the story of an entire clan and thousands of pages of lore

[@duemender9780]

How in the hell do you diablerize your self??

[@ThePrimogen]

He let himself be diablerized by someone else, or perhaps even manipulated them into doing it. This wouldn't be the first time a Methuselah has been diablerized, only to have taken control over the person who did it.

[@Glyff3083]

I'm going to go with "Very carefully"

[@dustinbloominger6707]

what is very interesting Typhon is an Abyssal Exalt

[@ThePrimogen]

That is very interesting indeed considering oWoD and Exalted is supposed to be a shared universe!

[@lolbots686]

​@@ThePrimogen And terrifying since if such is the case it implys more exalts exist.

[@bjhan73]

well done

[@ThePrimogen]

Thank you! :D

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

In terms of a Setite's mummify discipline, how indestructible is "nearly indestructible"?

[@gorge2786]

Only susceptible to fire and sunlight “nearly indestructible”

[@wolfsbanealphas617]

Caine vs Set vs Lilith who wins?

[@billfred9411]

Silly question. Its Caine easy. He is first generation and that means a lot. Set is only third generation and if the stories are true Lilith is second generation after she forced Caine to embrace her through a blood bond. Then again if certain stories are true Lilith is already dead because Caine eventually found her and tore her apart for what she did. If you arent aware Lilith and the original Crone are very likley the same person. Baba yaga also goes by the name "the crone" but she just took that name likley out of admiration and the reputation it gives.

[@josephbeckett2330]

V1-V4: Very few folks take this Clan seriously. We gotta do something.... V4 (Revised): I got this idea. Lets make it work by making it make sense without a major overhaul. We can expand on a few a few things, build into the lore, ... V5: Yah, lets just present this idea that the Clan NO FUCKING ONE trusts, and players are more willing to have characters die than bargain with, you know, thile single Clan many cities will declare auto Blood Hunts on, and LARP-magic wand them into the guys and gals wveryone entrusts their spiraling Humanity to. Sounds great, right. We can even change their name to something 50% cult, 50% atheist metal. Will go over great.

[@gorge2786]

Don’t forget they took away Settite Sorcery and gave them a shoddy reskin of animalism