Ghoul: My lord you've been in torpor for 10 years. Elder Ravnos: Oh boy, I can't wait to meet my Ravnos friends again.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
The saddest story I’ve ever read 😔
@ilnigromante6664 жыл бұрын
Boy, he'll find he's without friends.
@FordyTheConeSmoker3 жыл бұрын
I came here for lore not feels 💔
@Posturtle4 жыл бұрын
A lesson to Scourges everywhere: the mass killing of thin-bloods might actually help bring about the very Gehenna you're trying so hard to prevent.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
And yet they still keep at it. Shaking my head at this one, fam, they'll never learn.
@isaacofthales43032 жыл бұрын
Beckett says a self-imposed Gehenna warrants more vigilance than a biblical one
@onemoregodrejected93692 жыл бұрын
Thinbloods with five dots on Thin Blood Alchemy can make a potion to raise even antediluvians from Torpor. If a thinblood gets cornered, they might as well raise hell rather than get killed like a lamb
@skeletonking4119 Жыл бұрын
One of my reasons to PURGE those scourges scums . Into the face of the prince and dusty elders who send them
@keithcrook85914 жыл бұрын
I get a kick out of imagining the Tzimisce elders reactions when coming face to face with something as horrific as themselves during the beckoning...and quickly realizing they are completely outmatched..
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
"On second thought, let's not have the Gehenna Wars."
@keithcrook85914 жыл бұрын
lol RIGHT?!
@Duskwalker684 жыл бұрын
Honestly I wish they'd do more events like this, finding out what an Antediluvian (even one of the weakest) is truly capable of was really interesting.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I agree! It was amazing to read about!
@DividedStates4 жыл бұрын
Beckoning
@SilentsKillerPL4 жыл бұрын
There are gehenna scenarios (now considered not cannon) that describe what Antediluvians are truly capable of. Like The Eldest transforming himself into cancer like thing and margining with entire biosphere of the planet. Ennoia fusing herself with the planet itself and opening giant fanged holes in the ground to devour whole towns/cities.
@Chann2234 жыл бұрын
And I guess Zapathasura ( a.k.a. Ravana) is possibly also one of the Yama Kings? So it may be also a demonstration of what their power would be like too, if they incarnated on earth.
@jakobrenner22304 жыл бұрын
All of them are frickin' powerful. I was disappointed that they didn't include [Ventrue] in none of the Gehenna scenarios, that was an Antediluvian I was looking foward to see. Guess they didn't know how to turn the Dominate discipline into an effective plot device.
@ilnigromante6664 жыл бұрын
To beings so arrogant and sure of themselves as vampires, The Week of Nightmares was a frightening reminder of what awaited them in the not so distant future and that they were never in control of anything.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! A momentuous occasion for the Kindred.
@Tryone2-114 жыл бұрын
While the Sabbat was proven right they were also disheartened by seeing and hearing about the magnitude and reach of the devastation.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to understand why maybe the Sabbat's not quite as cohesive in the modern day as it once was.
@shadowvulture59924 жыл бұрын
The Week of Nightmares - beginning of the end, time when one of the eldest once again reminded about his existence, when sky has been lit up with red, when prophecies started to fulfill, when madmans got back what have been stolen from them and... my favourite event in whole WoD :D
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
It's certainly a massive event. What a way to send off the setting.
@stevenotto14564 жыл бұрын
The Antediluvian voice was cool! Great video!
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! I hope it felt appropriately sinister :)
@Iucaitus4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrimogen Almost like the sound of the reality's contortion!
@CommieApe2 жыл бұрын
Vampire the Masquerade's lore is so apocryphal and disturbing when followed to it's logical conclusions.
@edmoody292011 ай бұрын
I might be late but I Love The Week of Nightmares. I've ran a few sessions for it with my players and just hearing this makes me want to run it again. Though it was done like a short story it was still a great peice of work.
@RichterBelmont22354 жыл бұрын
From my experience with Vampires, I'd like to think that these Antedlivian can't just drop dead in a traditional sense. Just as I suspected that Ventru Antediluvian just used his 10 dot Dominate to fool everyone INCLUDING the readers into thinking that he died. Ravnos who can turn any imagination real with his 10 Chimerstry could probably do the same with ease.
@Helltamirre4 жыл бұрын
Technocracy would be like: NO SELL, DEVIANT.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I think in a sense it *kind* of cheapens the story a little to say that he made it anyway, meaning that WW would more or less declare that Vampires are on the top of the food chain, but I see where you're coming from.
@Gangrel4420033 жыл бұрын
@@Helltamirre Fuck the Technocracy. Authoritarian bastards...
@breakerofrocks2 жыл бұрын
@Primogen said it in his comment, but basically the world (and its stakes) are sometimes low in value because the vampires - especially the Antediluvians - are so insanely and shortsightedly OP. The whole thing about the Sabbat is that they want to destroy the Antediluvians before they awaken to feed on them all (before, what, going back to sleep?) and they feel empowered to do this because the two clans that made up the bulk of the sect at its founding had, through their own will, organization and elbow grease killed off their own clan founders. Doesn't it mean the Sabbat are utter shit at their whole raison d'etre if the aforementioned two Antediluvians actually 'cheated' and waka, waka, waka are still scheming somewhere or other.
@crazymanmot Жыл бұрын
I do not htink it cheapens the world as a whole, there are also other creatures from other splats that can match up with an Antediluvian. But I do not, for one second, believe that the Ravnos Antideluvian is truly out of the picture, dead maybe, but gone, not for one second.
@nocturnGER3 жыл бұрын
The awakening of this ancient, vampiric being was so devastating, Sabbat Elders around the world were wearing "See?! We were right the whole time!"-T-Shirts for weeks!
@Treyvah4 жыл бұрын
What is even more terrifying is that Ravnos was *weakened* from the beginning. He'd woken up from Torpor and needed to feed, and hadn't even completely replenished himself. Now consider, where are his other siblings right now? The other ... ten? Where are they? Are they all asleep? Or have they been awake this entire time, and planning to do something far worse ... or prepare for something even more horrifying? And then, there is this Beckoning we've heard about in the Middle East ...
@Chann2234 жыл бұрын
Well Lasombra for sure was destroyed during the 1st anarch revolt, taken out by his own children and some Banu Haqim i believe. And yet, with the new V5 plot it appears that some cainites are reporting to have actually encountered and fought him in some areas where the Gehenna War is going on. Whether its really him, his ghost, or just another very powerful Lasombra running around it is sending alot of cainites into madness with terror. Lasombra was one of the most powrful Antediluvians, so him coming back would be a very big problem. I for one would love to see Set come back. He was a terror in his own right and caused alot of mayhem in and around Egypt.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
It certainly is an interesting time to be (un)alive.
@Treyvah4 жыл бұрын
@@Chann223 I always saw Lasombra has having faked his own demise, much like his sibling the Eldest of the Tzimisce. I mean, how can you truly destroy the embodiment of darkness itself? It is fairly clear to me that the Sabbat are just another tool of the Ancients in the Jyhad. As for Set ... I get this feeling he is a lot craftier than people give him credit for, if his constantly adapting and evolving progeny are anything to go by.
@Chann2234 жыл бұрын
@@Treyvah Well i do believe there is a thing with Lasombra's consciousness still existing somewhere in the abyss. Some believe he allowed himself to be killed so that he could become one with the abyss, turning into a monstrosity of the void. But the abyss itself is not too happy about that.
@rjp38373 жыл бұрын
@@Chann223 as of Shadows of new York I think it's Canon he did do that so yeah unless you xount saulots situation [Ravnos] is the first dead antedilluvian can't wait for the Sabbat to realize how utterly screwed they are
@EloquentTroll2 жыл бұрын
And again the Technocracy are the true heroes of the World of Darkness.
@jamiadixon3314 жыл бұрын
This is the content I crave. Fighting over cities is cool but I want more of this level of madness.
@@ThePrimogen Fortitude 10, Protean 10...She'd be the last one standing...
@lolbots6868 ай бұрын
@@ThePrimogenconsidering she was a kinfolk before embrace,yeah. Vampiric werewolf monster form. Survive that lol
@leonardhollsten81456 ай бұрын
We get more details on her in Gehenna. She literally merged with the earth and eats whole cities.
@juliagoodwin34614 жыл бұрын
It’s the end of the world as we know it It’s the end of the world as we know it It’s the end of the world as we know it And I feel fine...
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I'm imagining that song going through the head of every "lesser" supernatural living through those events.
@Onionkid994 жыл бұрын
Great effects in this one! The week of nightmares is a very cool event in the WoD, especially because it brings in all the major lines of the books. You've got kindred, lupines, and mages all getting in on the apocalyptic action!
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It really kicked off something extraordinary!
@badgeleys4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the Ravnos destroyed themselves,here I was looking forward to playing one😔
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
There are still a few of them around, but they can be considered more of a bloodline now than a full-fledged clan.
@AdmiralShamayam6 ай бұрын
@@ThePrimogenis he really dead or did he use his powers to fool everyone he had perished.
@nineflames28634 жыл бұрын
So an Antediluvian was killed and took his entire clan with him, except for the youngest generations whose blood was too diluted to be controlled by him. Kind of makes you wonder what the future direction of the setting is. Maybe at some point old school kindred will have died out completely, with thinbloods becoming the new norm?
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I know right? The ripples of this event are surely still felt in the Vampire community.
@ssjjshawn Жыл бұрын
Vampire blood does thicken over time, remember 13th Generation used to be a Generation of Thin Bloods. Given time the 14th and 15th may give way to new 16th and 17th Generation thin Bloods as their Blood Thickens to that of a True Kindred.
@TheBall12 Жыл бұрын
@@ssjjshawn "thin bloods" and weak generation vampires are diffrent. "Thin bloods" can walk in the sun, many dont have to drink blood at all and can eat normal food etc. . There are barly more vampire then a normal Human in Cosplay. There blood is already so weak that they can not create new vampires and are incapable of strengthening just by themselfs. They would have to for example use diablerie to become full vampires. A weak generation vampire is still a full vampire but his initial power is weak. And therefore much more likly to (at first) create "thin bloods". And since the rest of ravnos vampires are all thin bloods (as far as we now) the bloodline is essential dead. Thats why some vampires fear what they call the time of the "thin blood". Its suppost to be an end times event.
@ssjjshawn Жыл бұрын
@@TheBall12 Yes and Thin Bloods are 14th and 15th generation Vampires, as of V20 and its Generation Chart, I speculated that given time 14th and 15th generation Vampires would lose that ability and become weaker generation Vampires (Like the 13th did) if Gehenna and the Withering didn't happen or V5 didn't fuck up a lot of the lore
@TheBall12 Жыл бұрын
@@ssjjshawn no... not all 14-15 generation vampires are "thin bloods". It depends for example on the age (strength) of the sire. But these generations are much more likly to be since there blood is already very thin/weak to begin with and alot of 13 generation vampires are not of significant age (strength) already. "thin bloods" and weak generation vampires are diffrent.... .
@TheHunterD694 жыл бұрын
This is some of my favorite lore. It was so impactful to all of the world of darkness, and it showed just how powerful the eldest vampires could be.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I know right? I loved reading it the first time.
@tylerpetersen6226 Жыл бұрын
I know this is pretty old lore but considering the Antediluvian's rampage literally damaged the wall between the mortal/spiritual world and how in wraith the oblivion material it was mentioned that people used to physically be able to enter the land of the dead makes me think that the veil between worlds was damaged from the last time all the antediluvians were all fully awake. While for the past few thousand years the growing divide between the two realms has been old wounds slowly healing up.
@KosmataBradva Жыл бұрын
True, but they weren't in frenzy in ancient times. Probably saw a lot less action than what Zapp would have seen, if he didn't get wasted. Also, I think Zapp just responded to spirit attacks with spirit attacks. And every andie has his own set of gimmicks, no not everyone will go spirit holocaust when awake. Look at Tzimisce, they guy just wants to become a tree, doesn't even want to bother anyone anymore.
@eliotbarnhart28104 жыл бұрын
Damn, I can't imagine how the Masquerade stayed intact after something like that.
@ThePrimogen3 жыл бұрын
It was a huge collaborative effort between the Camarilla and the Technocracy, I believe. Even so, the Camarilla are still suffering the after effects of it, in particular how it rekindled Vampiric faiths amongst the Ivory Tower.
@setsunatenma94672 жыл бұрын
the technocracy blamed the nuke to pakistan
@thashadowspawn3 жыл бұрын
Flash backs of being a player in one of the official white wolf gaming seasons for this back in 1998/1999! Surviving with my 1st character who I used at various events. And now to return in 5th edition. This storyline was 1 of my last games ever! Man it was great to eat a sandwich while listening to this. Crazy great times! And to have modeled for some of the artist having my likeness in a few pictures was both a blessing & super fun! I'm looking forward to bring my Lasombra back into action very very soon! Keep up the great work Primogen! Aloha!
@Ezojazol3 жыл бұрын
This video is pure gold dude, no lie. I'll show it to my players so they'll be aware of the kinda shit they got into.
@ThePrimogen3 жыл бұрын
So happy you like it! The Week of Nightmares was honestly a pretty crazy event, still shook whenever I read it.
@kikodejesus91924 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your telling of the week of nightmares that happened in the floodplains of bangladesh. Appreciated. Mabuhay!
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
It was my absolute pleasure!
@Gangrel4420034 жыл бұрын
Or maybe, just maybe, the lord of illusions just pulled off the greatest illusion of all time...Nevertheless, my dear Primogen...Magnum Opus...Magnum Opus...
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, that's definitely within the realm of possibility! *hats off* Glad you enjoyed it!
@lolbots6868 ай бұрын
Something emerged from the ruins of the prime chantry. It was...seemingly human. Saulot staggered up. He looked around. Then to himself. Saulot looked...himself. the progenitor of clan salubri had this aura about him,a presence of utter zen and calm. The first enlightened saw it. Visions of it all. After all,he saw much. "Hm...a shame. It seems...ive been gone a long...long time." Saulot looked at the ruins. He saw ashes and slightly torn clothes. He looked archaic. If he was not careful...house tremere would make a fools errand and more would too. Come night,saulot would finally move. Not through reality though. With a gesture,saulot walked into the umbra. It was...changed. rotting. Yet that would be for another night. The grandchilder of caine would eventually end up in a woodland area. saulot breathed in and out. He did not need to,yet felt so. The smell of earth after the rain recent. Perfect. And so, saulot sat and meditated. After all,what was the point? He has time. Time to think. Time to contemplate...
@TheCourtsOfLove2 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing, the Ravnos Antediluvian can't be dead? The Ravnos still are suffering the Beckoning which are tied to the clan's antediluvians being active...the only clan not tied to the beckoning is Hecata because all of their antediluvians are chronologically and fully truly dead - Augustus, Cappadocius and with Chimerstry 10 it could just as easily fake it's own death or create an entire battle slaughtering mighty opponents only for them to discover that it was not even the real thing.
@johnvladman94254 жыл бұрын
Awesome video ! ! ! 💯 More of Gehenna topic would be nice, keep up the good work, your channel is awesome.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I will definitely revisit Gehenna in the future too! I've still got many stones left untouched!
@dragutciprian73584 жыл бұрын
Some people say that vampires are the weakest creatires in Wod.Imagine if a more powerful one awoke.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@derkrischa37203 жыл бұрын
What if that was only a chimerstry illusion of zappa...
@leandromol4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I Love these videos with the Metaplots!
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like them! :D This one was a blast to make as well!
@leandromol4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrimogen Will you do more metaplot videos? For werewolf? For Mage? :D
@alexanderlaplante54773 жыл бұрын
Spreading the word on you primogen.good stuff,OWOD sage right here people.
@adammelling95644 жыл бұрын
And this is why as strange as it sounds as evil as the Sabbat are, they are a necessary evil
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
:D
@grandsome12 жыл бұрын
Except the Sabbath is wholefully incompetent spilling tons of shovelhead blood around like the Ravnos did.
@mavis...4 жыл бұрын
The ravnos are by far the most intresting clan to me, as an independent clan from both sabbat, camrillia and anarch they are an intresting group, as well as their relationship to western 'gyspies' and werewolves, all of it appeals to my inner vagabond . Plus i might just really want to prank a venture into drinking from a homless person.🙃
@Chann2234 жыл бұрын
3 Bohdisatvas vs. Zapathasura = The 5 Kage vs. Madara. A valiant effort, but pointless.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Omae ha mou shindeiru
@TheStatisfiedOne3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrimogen how strong is a bohdistavas??
@ScumbagKazuela3 жыл бұрын
@@TheStatisfiedOne at the very least as powerful as a methuselah
@TheStatisfiedOne3 жыл бұрын
@@ScumbagKazuela how powerful is a methuselah???
@ScumbagKazuela3 жыл бұрын
@@TheStatisfiedOne enough to be considered almost gods by other cainites. And that's still several orders of magnitude below antediluvians like ravnos or even giovanni (one of the weaker ones)
@sashaviper96824 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Thanks for this video!
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@simonward2444 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Enjoyed it as always
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again! I'm glad!
@matthiasgrewe37154 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF... the Lasombra are still Sabbat in their undead hearts and only try to involve the Camarilla in an inevitable war against the left clanfounders before it's too late? They are called puppetmasters for a reason...
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
It would be cool, but it would also be a bold move considering quite a few Sabbat elders had to be executed for the Lasombra to join.
@matthiasgrewe37154 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrimogen Well, and if those who witnessed the events of those death were either fooled or members of the Talmahera? I mean THE REAL ONE, of course?
@dylanknight27614 жыл бұрын
I knew of what happened, but wasn't sure how. Now I know, thank you!
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Just doing my job!
@dylanknight27614 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrimogen and you do it perfectly!
@JoeStoryteller4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this event will be interpreted by the current V5 meta-plot? Could Ravnos still be around or will they become a bloodline?
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Bloodline probably. There are two Ravnos in the Chicago Folios, apparently.
@Fintago4 жыл бұрын
I would love more stuff like this!
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
:) There'll be more.
@Demolitiondude4 жыл бұрын
I guess your on the abyss side of the hell debate.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
Demon: the Fallen is one of my favorite supplements, so hell yeah!
@TomasMosca4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Wanna cover the Avatar Storm in another one?
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
It will be in a future episode for sure :)
@Shotta02022 жыл бұрын
@The Primogen What clan would you say is your favorite? To play as and lore wise if they are not the same
@joaopedrooliveiradecastros28784 жыл бұрын
Pfft, dudes think they killed the RAVNOS Antediluvian. I call it bullshit.
@ThePrimogen3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, something as old as that? I doubt it. ;)
@ortizon3 жыл бұрын
What would you adjust in this video since the companion book release about Ravnos?
@GohnwithaG4 жыл бұрын
AWWWEEEEE SHHHHIIIIIDDDDDD It's about to go down.
@ThePrimogen4 жыл бұрын
This was so amazing to read about back when it first happened too!
@GohnwithaG4 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrimogen i could never find much information on the week of nightmares, your video told more than. I knew before. Like I didn't know the Camarilla elders were aware of the Antediluvians.
@abrahamgarcia91042 жыл бұрын
I was listing and the death jus happened….. what killed it
@skullman-us7wn Жыл бұрын
It’s the end of the world as we know it. And i feel fine
@MrChupacabra5552 жыл бұрын
I played WoD when it first came out and was the 'hot, new' RPG. By the time of this 'Genre Wide Apocalypse', though, we had gotten tired of the doom and gloom of the setting, and went back to D&D and Champions ^_^