Taping New Drywall without Damaging Textured Ceiling!!!

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Vancouver Carpenter

Vancouver Carpenter

Күн бұрын

How to tape new drywall without having to tape or texture the original ceiling!

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@markryan9688
@markryan9688 11 ай бұрын
Stop making everything look so neat and easy. No really, thank you so much for the lessons it has improved my armature taping skill immensely.
@glendavis1266
@glendavis1266 Жыл бұрын
You are the only guy that has covered this issue. I have exactly this issue.
@billm.8220
@billm.8220 Жыл бұрын
Always wondered how to do just the wall with a textured ceiling. Definitely appreciate this video. Keep ‘em coming Ben.
@johnmolnar2957
@johnmolnar2957 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos and 99.9% of the time I agree with you.I like your approach, no loud music in the background, no ego, just the facts! when I do this type of project , I try hard to use a non tapered edge so I don't have to tape.I will file the cut edge with a bondo cheese file . I run a bead of latex along the top edge of the drywall to glue it to the ceiling when you push it up. follow with a finger slick and another small bead along the corner . Did a friends reno and this fall I was there , looked at the joint I did 4 years ago & it still looks 100% . keep the videos coming. I enjoy your level headed approach , and you're a good teacher for people that are new to this .
@matthewcamelon2500
@matthewcamelon2500 Жыл бұрын
I came to the comment section looking to see if someone would say this. I have used caulk in these situations for years. Caulk it and texture over it and it looks great.
@conradcoolerfiend
@conradcoolerfiend Жыл бұрын
this method sounds great.
@stich1960
@stich1960 Жыл бұрын
I do the same but I wonder if he says that because they don't do textured walls and caulking can look bad if you are not careful on smooth walls. I have done both but generally do it how your talking just be careful installing the board
@JFreitas116
@JFreitas116 Жыл бұрын
I need to do this in my bathroom remodel tonight and was hoping you had a video on it. What perfect timing! Thanks as always for the amazing content!!!
@pototheko
@pototheko Жыл бұрын
Yes, exact same situation here! Took me a while to find the right search terms, so glad this video exists and I don't have to worry about feathering new texture on the ceiling!
@train3827
@train3827 4 күн бұрын
Ben, thanks for the additional information on moving your liftoff up. I would really like to see more on where to put liftoff in different situations. Nice Job, I have learned a ton of information from you in the last 2 years that I have been watching your channel.
@mtcrabtree
@mtcrabtree 5 ай бұрын
"It looks so slow and painful doing it this way." Proceeds to work smoother and more efficiently than any drywall work I have ever done.
@TheSamba37
@TheSamba37 Жыл бұрын
wish I'd have seen this before I tackled my DIY project. Always something to learn, and even with my mistake(s) it looks better than it did before!
@jasonharris5276
@jasonharris5276 Жыл бұрын
I've found that if u caulk the joint good and smooth then just mud over it and sand it works really well
@jeffwillis2592
@jeffwillis2592 Жыл бұрын
I use this technique where there is a ton of seasonal movement: my 2x2-unit townhouse in Minnesota has very long joists. Can't tape across the wall-ceiling joint or the wall will crack. This allows that corner to open and close seasonally without cracking.
@HotspotsSoutheast
@HotspotsSoutheast Жыл бұрын
I also ran into a similar issue when I was fixing the wall in the hallway where the new door frame was installed by a drunk guy. The top and bottom were off by almost an inch which meant I had to layer the plaster over about 10 feet of existing wall to make it look square and level. At the ceiling joint I did not add tape as it was already taped so I had to push the mud up into the corners without messing up the ceiling texture. It took a bit of tweaking but it looks good.
@demontekdigital1704
@demontekdigital1704 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ben! The only thing that pisses me off about this video is the fact that I can't use the skills you taught in it, lol. In my case I have a mop textured ceiling, and the tape joints are flatout peeling off. I'm going to end up trying to completely scrape the texture off, then taping, and skim coating. to give context; this house was built in 1980, and the builders used crown moulding to hide the wall to ceiling joints. The 2nd homeowners removed the crown moulding in the bedrooms, and never replaced it. (They probably damaged it, and didn't realize how expensive it is). As a result, all the tape joints are crumbling, peeling, and hideous. This will definitely be way outside my comfort zone, but we can't afford to pay a pro to come in and do it for us. Hopefully I can pull it off, lol.
@14Sciteach
@14Sciteach Жыл бұрын
Great video! This is a great method if you plan on not texturing the wall, or if it will have a different texture from the ceiling. But if you're going to texture the wall anyway, (I live in Texas and it's pretty common for the wall and ceiling to be textured the same) it's actually not that difficult to tape like normal and then re-texture the ceiling to match. I'd prefer that to be sure cracks wouldn't happen.
@neddiesmith-
@neddiesmith- 10 ай бұрын
This was soooo helpful! I have a vaulted textured ceiling and will not be removing the texture for cost reasons. But we have all new drywall on the walls surrounding it. And this video just took the headache out of the whole procedure. Thank you and please make more of those fantastic videos. 😊
@FeelingLikeThatNow
@FeelingLikeThatNow Жыл бұрын
Vancouver Painter channel once again with the best home Drywall repair advise and methods. Caulking and Paint makes the carpenter I ain't.
@wWLoganWw
@wWLoganWw Ай бұрын
fantastic video! Thank you for sharing. Got some storm damage remediation that will need to be done and I'm confident on this now.
@267BISMARK
@267BISMARK Жыл бұрын
Beautiful job. I think you could caulk it , but using a rubber glazing or fugi silicone tool. It creates a 90 deg silicone finish that still allows you to cut the painting in nicely, while giving you a strong scructually 90 deg join
@TrevorPotjer
@TrevorPotjer Жыл бұрын
Do not just caulk it! Trust me. Im fixing this right now lol
@Aepek
@Aepek Жыл бұрын
10:08 you also can do this method when a tile backsplash was added and the gap is horrid, instead of filling with caulk; you should use “mud” and build it up and feather out the wall to make it look “flat”, and this is what I usually do, but you are painting a bit so don’t have to be extremely careful on the walls, but if near trim…..definitely be cautious to not get anything on it.
@TheLastPharm
@TheLastPharm Жыл бұрын
If I had a ceiling like that, I'd be priming it and crack filling it, just like what's going to happen in our hall and bedroom in the next couple months. Been also binge watching all your lessons on here; it's really amazing how even the smallest tips offer the most help when I'm in the middle of something. Couldn't thank you enough! But 1000x thank you!
@LastingDays
@LastingDays 12 күн бұрын
Thank you thank you, I ended up putting some mud in a zip bag and cutting the corner and injecting some mud + water into the corner to fill in the crack and following what you said afterwards.
@dougwrobinson
@dougwrobinson Жыл бұрын
I have our master bathroom drywall repair project coming up on my never ending list of stuff to do when you have a house for 37 years so thank you for the perfect timing of this video and your previous videos.
@nefariousyawn
@nefariousyawn Жыл бұрын
I just finished some drywall that my dad started years ago. when it came to joining the wall with the popcorn ceiling, I didn't even look for a tutorial in your channel because that popcorn must go, no second thoughts. Anyway I appreciate how inclusive and considerate you are of the odd person that keeps popcorn on the ceiling.
@lawrenceking4144
@lawrenceking4144 Жыл бұрын
Although Ben's videos are great for the DIYer, his knowledge and patience are a great endorsement for hiring an experienced professional for those big jobs that are scary and complicated. And he'd be great company.
@poppacore6433
@poppacore6433 Жыл бұрын
I need a lift off placement video. Necessity for life, even. Make it happen, Ben!
@davidvoorhies812
@davidvoorhies812 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. Just added a shower pan and surround and had to put in 6" of drywall up to already painting/textured/ceiling.
@chrishart7818
@chrishart7818 Жыл бұрын
I use to just caulk it when i first started mudding but now I do exactly what you demonstrated
@Ariesphoenix1
@Ariesphoenix1 Жыл бұрын
I can’t begin to tell you how much this episode has & will help me! My bathroom is in need & it’s a 12 foot vaulted ceiling! I will take these lessons and go! Pray for me! 😂😂
@stich1960
@stich1960 Жыл бұрын
I have done both, light textures if you put your upper board up first with a non tapered edge and tight joint will finish fine with caulk you just can't smear it all into the upper texture. (We don't usually do smooth walls here though so that may be the difference.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 7 ай бұрын
I always do corners, vertical or horizontal, this way, even when I don't have to, though if the gap is really narrow, I prefill it with caulk before putting the mud and tape on it. I got into the this habit because most of the corners I've done abut walls or ceilings that I don't want to re-paint, but I also like the slightly crisper corner you can get from this method. Also, if the wall shifts a little, I'd rather see a corner crack a little on a straight line than see the tape bridging that gap pull away from both surfaces and make a long hollow bubble. It never seemed that slow to me, but that might be because I don't worry too much about getting the mud on the painted or textured surface; it seems to come off with a wet paintbrush. If the texture were water soluble, that wouldn't work as well and I'd have to be more careful, but so far, I've never run into that.
@I-sed-no
@I-sed-no Жыл бұрын
The MOST important things I've learned over the years with drywall repair/mudding/texturing... Be patient. Let it dry all the way. Don't try to perfect each layer. You can sand imperfections out if you leave enough material. Multiple coats. Be patient. If I did this for a living I'd be starving and broke.
@RC_Cola2020
@RC_Cola2020 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I was wondering how I could add it a divider wall between mine kitchen and living room, without having to repaint the whole ceiling.
@skylark4901
@skylark4901 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, I have this exact situation to do today, gonna mix some 45 minute "mud" and try to finish!
@DriedMoss
@DriedMoss Жыл бұрын
I have found everything I have needed to remodel my bathroom with this channel's videos! THANK YOU!!!!
@lubama
@lubama Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video! Exactly the instructions I was looking for! 👍
@number1pappy
@number1pappy Жыл бұрын
This scenario never even crossed my mind as I installed crown molding throughout my house when I renovated my walls. I also received some ribbing because I actually taped and finished the drywall where the ceiling met the wall. I did it because I wanted to do it the right way! I'm not sure if I would have done it on someone else's house as nobody would know ,and honestly, just like you always say ,"it would have looked fine from my house!" Lol!
@WanJae42
@WanJae42 Жыл бұрын
You can always tell people it helps stop air migration 😅
@dixoncider7256
@dixoncider7256 5 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
@degillard
@degillard Жыл бұрын
This is a very useful technique that I have needed in the past and will need in the future. Thank you! Been following your content for a long time and learning a ton.
@305liveandlearn
@305liveandlearn Жыл бұрын
A very particular situation in the trade. I haven't been asked to do this before but I agree with your technique 👌🏽 Nothing fills gaps better than compound. Caulking is not a good filler here
@HotspotsSoutheast
@HotspotsSoutheast Жыл бұрын
I had the tape come off in several places in my bathroom. The humidity I assume weakened it. Just on the ceiling. It stayed on the walls. I considered for a while how to reglue it but decided against. I carefully cut it off the ceiling and left it on the walls then just patched the few gaps here and there with mud. It’s up high so you don’t notice much.
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 Жыл бұрын
…I am not painting the ceiling… the best motivational mantra to go slow and careful ever
@reddawn402
@reddawn402 Жыл бұрын
Man I was racking my brain on how to do this with a new wall and this helped immensely.
@Moethemad70
@Moethemad70 Жыл бұрын
So happy you made this, I'm doing reno in my basement, but after i have a that kind of fix i need to do on my main floor.
@edover50
@edover50 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes this needs to be done and I’m really thankful for this video Ben. Totally going to use it!
@AMM0beatz
@AMM0beatz 10 ай бұрын
Ive been looking for this tutorial!! Thank you!
@Aepek
@Aepek Жыл бұрын
14:53 I’d use big stretch or even lexcel by Sashco to caulk that “joint” as like the products & get excellent results from them. They really hold up well & lexcel sticks to ANYTHING & comes in clear or white, big stretch comes in many colors to match best as possible the paint. ✌🏻
@dhammer5645
@dhammer5645 Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing for a job I did except I used tear away bead on the wall at the ceiling.👍
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter Жыл бұрын
That would work pretty well too. More time consuming though probably.
@dhammer5645
@dhammer5645 Жыл бұрын
@@vancouvercarpenter true, but it would protect the ceiling more with the tear away strip.
@brandonbdl
@brandonbdl 7 ай бұрын
7:00 laughed so hard here 😂 i like how you go from causual to more serious with every anserr 😂
@mynamehere812aa
@mynamehere812aa Жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from your videos! I’ll be using this tip in a month or two when I remodel my en-suite. Thank you for the great videos!
@marcopepe
@marcopepe Жыл бұрын
I have been looking for someone to do this video as I currently am doing the basement walls over but keeping the existing ceiling. I cannot thank you enough.
@WanJae42
@WanJae42 Жыл бұрын
My parent's house got an 8" "accent stripe" of flat ceiling around the edge of their popcorn ceiling 🤣
@TheBaz568
@TheBaz568 5 ай бұрын
This is pretty common in my area actually
@alanalcala4506
@alanalcala4506 Жыл бұрын
You know, that would make a good video, If you show difference of caulking a corner vs a taped corner. 👌
@Mrsockmonkie
@Mrsockmonkie Жыл бұрын
Dang...wish I'd had this video 6 months ago. I just ended up with 6" of flat feathering along the edge of my textured ceiling lol
@vivian9803
@vivian9803 Жыл бұрын
My sister-in-law bought a house with popcorn ceilings where all the walls were replaced with new Sheetrock. The solution the remodeler used was to install crown molding throughput the entire house. I would love to peek behind it to see the gap they probably hid. 😈
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 7 ай бұрын
I've seen Australian videos in which they use crown moldings that are made of gypsum and use mud to put them up, sort of killing two birds with one stone. It seems clever, but I've never seen moldings like that here in the USA.
@TheBoydClan
@TheBoydClan Жыл бұрын
I have a question about painting and the cutting in process. I have seen many painters use additives to paint like Flood Penetrol with oil based paints on cabinets to reduce brush marks, and I have seen a similar product for latex paints. I was watching you cut in that wall (which sounds super creepy now that I am reading that out loud) there were significant brush marks and I was wondering if you used any additives to the paint when cutting in or of you just let it buck. on a side note, you have helped me up my finishing game significantly where I am no longer annoyed about finishing drywall, but even a little excited about it because I get to apply some concept you introduced me to on your channel. Keep up the great work!
@valeriemaridor9505
@valeriemaridor9505 Жыл бұрын
Just buy a good brush, and of course, use a good brushing technique. You can also dilute the paint with a little bit of water, no need to spend money on paint conditioner/extender. It’s only really useful for diluting paint for spraying.
@stich1960
@stich1960 Жыл бұрын
For anything other than trim or special situations good paint and good brush is all you need. Honestly I wouldn't ever use additives unless doing high end doors or cabinets and then spray is better. A good latex will flow out enough if you don't touch it while it's drying and a good trim paint will flow out after a few seconds.
@stich1960
@stich1960 Жыл бұрын
Oh and a weinie roller immediately after cut in will help take wall painting to the next level
@NWSanta
@NWSanta 5 ай бұрын
Another great video!!! Can't wait to get started at home! Thank you for this great video!
@jaymartinson
@jaymartinson 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding! Thanks for solving a problem for me that had me worried!!
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd Жыл бұрын
You don't appreciate how skilled he is until you have some experience doing diy drywall work.
@Andrew-cp3ki
@Andrew-cp3ki Жыл бұрын
Dang, I could have used this method last week on a job lol. Better late than never I guess, thanks Ben! 😁
@alexandervol214
@alexandervol214 Жыл бұрын
greetings from Russia , thanks for the vid, I sometimes use this way in joint between window slop and window sill
@segaquartet
@segaquartet Жыл бұрын
what's the point of taping over no joints?
@mikebonello7494
@mikebonello7494 8 ай бұрын
Did you listen to the video?
@bradp5107
@bradp5107 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the videos. They are very informative. Even to build a fake wall. Awesome.
@PeterTrimboli
@PeterTrimboli Жыл бұрын
How did you read my mind I was literally Google searching this yesterday and I found a comment on a forum saying to flat tape it so then I watched one of your videos on flat taping then this popped up in my feed and I was like why didn't I find this when I was looking for it lol
@Stahlmankustomkarpentry
@Stahlmankustomkarpentry Жыл бұрын
Like 2 weeks to late..I needed this video for my partial remodel
@thomasc3337
@thomasc3337 Жыл бұрын
Ben- can you do a video about how to repair tape joint on an inside 3-way corner? I’m guessing the best way (not the fastest…) is to simply cut out the damaged sections of tape and redo the corner.
@randypowell4799
@randypowell4799 Жыл бұрын
Vancouver. I would think that would show a crack in the future. Thank for video.
@fastmover45
@fastmover45 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Ben learned a new trick !
@JV-pu8kx
@JV-pu8kx Жыл бұрын
On "heavily textured ceilings," please have more discussions on stippled ceilings.
@andrewpirie9215
@andrewpirie9215 Жыл бұрын
I love your work and videos. From Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@EugenioFranklin
@EugenioFranklin Жыл бұрын
In cutting anything with paint, always plant your brush from dry to wet.
@CarvedTop
@CarvedTop Жыл бұрын
So glad I found this video! I'm faced with the exact opposite problem. I'm replacing some water damaged drywall Ceiling with a painted texture, that meets have of wall space. THis room was just repainted 3 weeks prior, and I would like to avoid having to re texture and paint part of the walls. So I'm guessing that your Flat Tape technique would work?🤔
@valeriemaridor9505
@valeriemaridor9505 Жыл бұрын
You can use caulk, but only if you are great with a spatula. Would probably have to caulk several times, though.
@user-wr8pq8dr4m
@user-wr8pq8dr4m 5 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
@zackerydupuis6724
@zackerydupuis6724 Жыл бұрын
keep up the amazing work Ben you always do such an amazing job on your repairs and on your videos.
@NickRgibbs
@NickRgibbs Жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for years. Thanks for all the help. Have you considered putting tint in your mud especially in the garage demos to make it easier for us noobs to see?
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter Жыл бұрын
I've considered it. Just never done it.
@FCCTabor
@FCCTabor Жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. Thank you
@greenmoxy
@greenmoxy Жыл бұрын
Neat, I need to do this in the very near future. I don't understand what the tape is doing in this situation but it looks great!
@gabrielbrophy-maclean7138
@gabrielbrophy-maclean7138 Жыл бұрын
Hey I really like all the advice you have on your channel it’s really helping with my basement Reno’s, I do have some interesting situations going on if you could spare a little time to give some specific tips I would really appreciate it!
@DaveGoesKarting
@DaveGoesKarting Жыл бұрын
How does this process change if you are planning on painting the entire ceiling?
@tjthreadgood818
@tjthreadgood818 6 ай бұрын
Exactly what I needed! This was a huge help‼️
@JohnSmithh644
@JohnSmithh644 7 ай бұрын
You make it look so easy
@nomadnowhere1818
@nomadnowhere1818 Жыл бұрын
Why not use a time set base coat? Like 45 / 60 min joint compounds? Better than waiting 2 days for it to dry
@Compulaser3D
@Compulaser3D 9 ай бұрын
Hello, I love your drywall videos. I have a question. My cousin suffered flooding from a hurricane in Florida and had a company come in for cleanup. The company removed the 4' lower half of drywall of every intior wall. My question is; would it be better to hang the new drywall tapered end down to the floor and just tape and mud all joints as butt joints? Or, hang normal and fill in the tapered edge with mud prior to taping? Thanks for your response/advice. Ill be sure to leave a donation for your time. -Tim
@markarita3
@markarita3 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work Ben!
@Red8675309666
@Red8675309666 Жыл бұрын
"Dont use caulk, try it and see why" proceeds to use caulk LOL. i'm teasing. great vid
@305liveandlearn
@305liveandlearn Жыл бұрын
I would use easy sand 20 for that 1st coat and subsequently top it off with all purpose
@joelhord3699
@joelhord3699 Жыл бұрын
Could you do this on an inside corner where new sheet rock meets an already painted wall?
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 7 ай бұрын
I always do.
@starblazers01
@starblazers01 Жыл бұрын
Nice fade, couldn't help it. 💇
@steverayner4677
@steverayner4677 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always Ben, was thinking it might be quicker to use a tear away bead in this situation.
@milansobocz8684
@milansobocz8684 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for video, it gives me a really decent know how for my job. Thank you for your videos !!!
@stanbinary
@stanbinary Жыл бұрын
Folks fill carefully and with *paintable caulk* and that's it Works like a charm - small tight bead
@69420maaan
@69420maaan Жыл бұрын
Sweet thanks. Helping a neighbour with a little bathroom reno after having got out of tiling awhile back and we were just gonna caulk it. But ill give this a go. On another note, ive met you before. But cant figure out where. Are you from nanaimo ? I also lived on the mainland for a bit and if your not from nanaimo i think i might have met you on a job. Lol
@scottdeason2940
@scottdeason2940 Жыл бұрын
Great job. Oh, and unless Dapp is paying you, almost any caulk is better.
@jamalramz7897
@jamalramz7897 Ай бұрын
Nice work and video
@ryanstratton5895
@ryanstratton5895 6 ай бұрын
Would suggest blue taping the ceiling in case a sloppy newb like me gets mud on the textured ceiling?
@Holdfast
@Holdfast Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! I am building my first DIY partition wall so will use your method. Crown moulding is expensive and my labour is cheap. Do you have any videos or tips for doing the same in a corner to an existing painted wall?
@konstantinusstoyanov9749
@konstantinusstoyanov9749 Жыл бұрын
Good techniques, thank you
@kyleucf
@kyleucf Жыл бұрын
Hi VC, first of all you are my hero. Thanks for teaching and sharing. I have unrelated question, hoping you can opine… my taped joints in the sheet rock in the garage ceiling are all failing/cracking. Sheet rock has a lot of play as they don’t meet at beam. I know how to fix cosmetically based on your videos but since I can get above it, is there a good glue/adhesive I could apply to the seams from above to seep into the joints so it holds better and doesn’t crack again? I feel like applying some thinner construction adhesive (so it settles in the between sheets) from the top to fill the would make it super strong so my tape joints won’t fail again. Thoughts?
@otiscampbell3795
@otiscampbell3795 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Would inside corner bead with the tear away tape also work?
@TrapperBV
@TrapperBV Жыл бұрын
Well done. Another great lesson
@rtaskyy
@rtaskyy Жыл бұрын
I also live in the Vancouver area. We bought a house recently and the ceiling is popcorn. Is this worth paying someone like 10k to remove, skim, and paint? Seems like way too much work to diy. Do you think removing it would someday add a bit of value to the home?
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