Vanilla Barrens And Why Its Remembered - WCmini Facts

[@TrevorPhilips]

1. AIM AT CROSSROADS 2. PRESS AUTO RUN 3. RUN TO FRIDGE

[@TrevorPhilips]

BTW I was pretty active beta, pre-Auction Houses and during Beta 2's Rest System phase, I basically lived at The Crossroads for like 2-3 months lol. And the speculation 'ran out of time' is pretty certain I think. Westfall was Kaplan/Tigole's baby. Duskwood and Elwynn got immense amount of polish. Even the first Forsaken areas did. I don't think they necessarily ran out of time per se because Barrens was pretty much in at the same time as the Forsaken areas -- which did have Human and Dwarf levels of quality detail IMO -- it's just it probably made the most sense that if one area was gonna, it makes sense to make it the open plains one. Which, of course, was always the counter argument -- of course it's barren, it's a Barrens! which is silly of course because the problem with the Barrens was never that it was open plains but even the content detailing within it was lacking -- the most barren plains could be loaded with alive NPCs, little nooks and crannies, story and dungeon arcs as good as Deadmines, etc. So it was never that it was an open plains; it was that it felt like they finished the art and spend 1 week randomly plotting done random quests and NPCs with none of the crafting and caring that many other zones received.

[@BrentonCherry222]

Trevor Philips Best comment 👍🏻

[@frkommers]

Just to come back and find your character stuck in a bush 10 steps away from where it was.

[@TheBinderable]

4. ???? 5. PROFIT

[@Loki2488]

Man, those were the days...

[@Conocobhar]

"well never have the old barrens again" That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

[@andrewjensen8128]

That's an overly optimistic view of the world that doesn't take into account human nature. It's like saying, "There will never be another Measles outbreak."

[@kid_ock]

@@andrewjensen8128 no he means now that Classic WoW is coming out, we will be able to experience the Barrens in their original state

[@andrewjensen8128]

@@kid_ock I figured that he was looking forward to the Barrens coming back. I was being facetious, but my hatred for the Barrens is entirely sincere.

[@ladyfibonaccii]

I'm so excited to get the Vanilla servers!

[@davidoneill2949]

The Jordan peterson inflection is strong in this here, kiddo

[@kukenballenvegavalle]

When you finally leveled out of Barrens to go to Thousand Needles, getting stunned by the landscape, to eventually go pushing towards Un'Goro to see the dinosaurs walking around is probably my fondest memory from WoW.

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

Idk why, I kept thinking Thousand Needles was a dungeon when I heard about it in the chat. I was a bit disappointed

[@fittpappa687]

And your first encounter with........... The silithid. *Shudders*

[@qunt100]

@@DivineAtheistWannabe I always wondered why there wasn't a grimtotem instance to fight those bastards in.

[@sickerOr]

Memories unlocked!!!

[@Bkn_zv]

I will never forget my first time entering Tanaris

[@Rencol666]

as a die hard horde player, i pushed a tear back into my eye socket

[@magnuschristianssen8999]

Rencol666 you would make an excellent Klingon. THRALLHAL!

[@ninjasnipe]

FOR THE HORDE

[@Jackofhearts17]

Me too friend, me too

[@matijajuric7997]

+Alexandre Larocque that music is.....wow

[@iamtheahlenius]

So many good memories here.

[@axzxxzxa8613]

Dude I dont give a fuck what anyone says. I cant wait to go back to WoW Classic just to talk shit in barrens chat.

[@alexmelik4030]

And hunt gnome warlocks around the Ratchet trying to get their succubi quest... I lost count how many of those little bastrads I murdered and cannibalized in the days of yore. Humans could go in peace, gnomes were food.

[@AvelineMelena]

Where's Mankrik wife ?!

[@jocomfiresin6982]

I'm interested to see what wow classic will be like. Will I be abandoning the vanilla servers I already play and what will the financing be like on it. I assume it might be a sub thing. Or maybe since it wouldn't be a progressive and on going game they'd make it one time or maybe even all together free it's not like it's hard to find a unofficial vanilla server. All though I doubt blizzard would do that their a company after all. I'm sure they'd find a way to get everyone to join their vanilla server instead I mean most of us only played the others because the live version had been going down hill for a long time now, sometimes they level it out but I don't see it going up hill anytime soon. At least not in the way a lot of people wish it would. A lot of people loved some of the old mechanics. Like the hunter pets. The talent tree being capable of a hybrid class. Rather then a single thing. Honestly despite the fact it would make you weaker it was the ability to be unique that I always found the most endearing towards the vanilla talent system rather then the live versions. None the less vanilla certainly will be something to keep a eye on. Hell maybe we might get to see two live versions for once lol. Maybe they will redevelop the games in a different way. Unfixing all the stuff they fixed and make a hardcore wow lol is certainly a interesting thought however theirs gonna be someone unhappy no matter what they do. While I grew up playing wow, having being a child when I first started watching my step dad on his computer half the night on vanilla wow, then finally getting my own version of wow. I'll never be able to relive that feeling the first time I got to play wow. I sucked badly lmfao I was always trying to play cacth up with every new expansion I was never able to reach cap level till it got easy the unofficial servers gave me another chance and I did that now blizzard will let me take another crack at it on a official server hell yeah lol let me relive it I'm sure it won't be the same I'll be taller and have more experience and knowledge in relation to the game I got alot better computer to lol it grew with me. It's like me and my computer get to relive our childhoods I can't wait to see how disappointed I'll be... holy shit the very last line of that could have been my entire comment and it would have been the same exact message lmfao

[@Dan-pp3qd]

Joey Collins need more fullstops

[@jocomfiresin6982]

Dan yep.

[@TakoyaKyono]

I learnt so many interesting facts about Chuck Norris while grinding through the Barrens.

[@TrevorPhilips]

I learnt so many interesting facts about *High Overlord Saurfang while grinding through the Barrens. ftfy :)

[@GrumbleGombol]

Did you know Chuck Norris is a meme, and got his ass kicked?

[@givemeanameman1]

The only thing Chuck Norris fears is Chuck Norris himself.

[@GrumbleGombol]

@@givemeanameman1 And Jackie Chan. Because Jackie beat Shite Norris in a fight.

[@MasterOfKnowledge.]

@@GrumbleGombol Pretty sure that's Bruce Lee you're thinking of, dude

[@brandenwilliams5031]

"i survived barrens chat" is a shirt for a reason.

[@jayjayson9613]

branden williams A right of passage for the Horde.

[@Heron11177]

It's almost the same as "I survived Goldshire inn"

[@Mitsuki424]

Heron Ottoni Ferreira so much erotic RP..

[@kxmode]

That's why the horde is so violent.

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

@@jayjayson9613 Alliance scum will not understand. They all pussies

[@Forge17]

We need enormous zones like this again. Ashenvale and the Barrens really made you feel small in a huge world. I miss that feeling.

[@CrayPlaySwe]

"Sure, we'll never have the old barrens again" >Me playing wow classic: "huh."

[@abiwonkenabi7027]

Except I see a lot less Chuck Norris and a lot more Keanu Reeves. Its New Old Barrens.

[@ziroth12]

@@abiwonkenabi7027 For me they are repeating all the old 2004 memes and you'd think itd be funny. It really isn't! However, having only played alliance in classic before, the Barrens is actually kinda delightful in recreating a classic experience. I'm finding the tedium is what makes an MMO an MMO, weirdly enough. Which is probably why people whine so much about wanting WoW to return to classic and BC days.

[@LordHawkstrom]

With the modern internet, classic wow barrens is much more bearable, also I think they may have tuned the drop rates as I had no problem with the zheevra quest

[@pjtyra2106]

ziroth12 same here! Barrens chat is everything I’d ever heard of, as I was also an alliance player back in the day that dropped out around Cata.

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

Them endless Chuck Norris jokes tho....

[@CarrowMind]

For veteran Horde players, questing in the Barrens was a right of passage, the Alliance had their safe little isolated zones, while the Horde had to endure hours of running, grinding and keeping a wary eye out for any Alliance scum skulking about.

[@CarrowMind]

Ha! Not even close! Redridge is sandwiched between Elwynn Forest and Burning Steppes, ones a lvl 45-50 zone and the other is a zone containing an Alliance capital city. The easiest way to get there for a Horde is through STV, and they still have to travel through two zones. Compare that to the Barrens, one boat ride and you're there, and there's even a handy neutral town to fall back to incase you get overrun by the defenders.

[@chellnz]

CarrowMind don't forget the 4 Alliance Elites roaming the zone ready to do the work for them.

[@43CYN]

Also doing quests as shaman there, or if you wanted to go Tanaris or Searing Gorge etc. u had a long long long never ending journey, omg.... : D

[@kalathi1898]

I got ganked my fair share of times leveling through Duskwood and Redridge back in Vanilla. Lots of Horde used to screw with Alliance in Duskwood, at least on my server. I had to go there on my main more than once every time I was leveling an alt there to take care of Horde griefers. At least in the Barrens, Horde were protected from being attacked without consent.

[@VintageNarwhal]

Agreed completely.

[@berserkur19]

You know why I love The Barrens? I was questing there in vanilla and one day something happened that made me spit out the water I was drinking all over the computer screen, because it was so shockingly bizarre and silly.. I killed a giraffe. Looted his body and what I saw made me question my entire life. The giraffe dropped clam meat. WHY WOULD A GIRAFFE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BARRENS KEEP CLAM MEAT IN ITS POCKETS!?

[@berserkur19]

So, I asked Barrens Chat about it, because I thought it was a bit interesting. What happened next? Well, everything went apeshit. Some people didn't believe me and started raging, but those who DID believe me went even crazier. Everybody started to talk about mutant shrimp giraffes that were going to take over The Barrens.. And then the culling of the Barrens Giraffe's started. There were literally raid groups with high level players that started killing the giraffe menace, in order to save the horde from giraffe domination. It was the most insane thing ever and I loved every second of it.

[@eliaz1924]

xD

[@cras17]

That's awesome

[@hydromancer4916]

That never happened lol

[@berserkur19]

It did.

[@SwanCC]

"Would you even want that again?" Spoken like a true Alliance player.

[@TuhljinTampergauge]

You mean, spoken like a rational human being.

[@pwgearedturbofan2348]

Tuhljin Tampergauge No

[@primary2630]

Idk, I main Alliance and even we had shit talking in the barrens chat at like all times because of RFD, RFK and Crossroads raids. I did play horde for a couple years on another server but barrens was always alive whenever I was there.

[@5hourenergy580]

RIGHT?!!!

[@86Corvus]

No, spoken like a lazy casual with no willpower stamina or patience. In short - alliance player.

[@DraphEnjoyer]

Comradery is built through adversity. We all worked to together against all this terrible zone design and we all remember it fondly regardless of the flaws. I couldn't tell you a single memorable thing that happened to me since Cata. Its all just a boring blur because the leveling is so streamlined and fast that nothing is a threat and there's absolutely no adversity.

[@TheArnoldification]

Yeah...I am a new player who recently got into legion (fire mage currently at level 109) and I have to say the process of getting there was really fucking boring. Pretty much everything up until like WoD gets 1-shot by something that isn't an autoattack. Dungeon spamming was more fun than questing for me, and dungeon spamming is almost never an enjoyable experience in an mmo. Ugh. Legion is enjoyable, at least.

[@darion8476]

One of my favorite memories was chilling in the barrens with strangers infront of a camp fire talking about random stuff..so fun!

[@gg5115]

Yeah somebody told Activision that only raiding mattered. So they did away with the rest of the game just to get you there faster.

[@blazerashbringer2001]

wanna say that over desolance or sithlus?

[@Bolizen]

Lol nothing memorable since cata? So either you quit after wotlk, or you're a fucking idiot.

[@Melzare]

Old school WoW was legitimately the best times of my life, as sad as that sounds. It was just so goddamn addicting, I loved every second.

[@thesillypig785]

Vanilla WoW is still the best game I ever played. And probably always will be.

[@proit8453]

Google it "Elysium wow" and join to thousands of players playing Vanilla right now

[@kasperschmidt5665]

Melzare I can only agree with you, i had my best experiences in vanilla

[@gdmclean]

i know i was addicted to WoW in 2005. Would wake up at 4am with guildies in the USA to raid MC. Even got half a DP for being there 30 mins early. Farming fire resist gear and having DPS meters on my UI to track myself against other mages, rogues and warlocks. Those were the days :) So much fun. The back and forth PvP battles at Tarren Mill and Southshore as a mid-level horde player. So epic. Expansions are just a reset button, and basically make anything you have of value now be a useless item. Have no regrets quitting WoW just before

[@cjmilitarymuscle6353]

gdmclean I slept 2-3 hours a day. Going to sleep by 1-2am and waking up at 4am. I would be so pissed off through out the day and my eyes would always be blood shot lol.

[@brianviktor8212]

You forget something. The Barrens music was amazing. The atmosphere was great, the size was large, the chat was legendary -- it is exactly how the social elements of a game should be: Extensive communication for players in the early levels. It is one of my favorite zones and I never skipped it. I rate it: 5/10.

[@xostler]

I still have Groundhog Day nightmares of endlessly killing zhefras.

[@DaDunge]

@@xostler Reall? I don't recall that quest at all.

[@TheBloggme]

One of your favourites is only a 5/10 lol ya got some high standards then

[@HidingInMyRoom1989]

I miss barrens chat and the sense of community it had. It was fun casually questing and chatting about random things with strangers. I was 16 at the time with no friends and playing wow was the closest thing to having a social life that i had.

[@lpc3109]

7-14k people online, NEW 100% blizz like wow server, its a free server, dont have to pay a dime, and ANYONE, can play vanilla wow, literally the new server just started so there are like a handful of no-lifers that are 60 lightshope.org/

[@nebalui5121]

#wehateblizzardandwhatthedotothsigamethatnamedwowakaworldofwarcraftfuckblizzardandactivision!

[@1337dude]

Wow's probably the reason you didn't have a social life I'm watching this shit out of curiosity, and I do want to play.. but I'm not going to.

[@pravdasircone1691]

Keven N you’ll never understand

[@Ninja563]

Same lol

[@michaelrandold4656]

Local Defense: “Crossroads is under attack!” Can’t fking wait. The dream is real.

[@Kt4nk]

It's surreal to watch this video, spending my entire week in the Barrens in Classic..... it's all true...

[@marc789]

i hope they change the location of mankirk wife in classic just to make us look around.

[@TheZoltan-42]

She will wander around the Barrens trying to collect 4 Zhevra pelts for her clothes, but gets knocked out by them and lay there for 10 minutes before moving on. The Crossroads is under attack!

[@dorharp]

Best comment

[@server1ok]

The corpse will be burnable and have a spawn time of 15 min.

[@abatele]

"She's in my basement"

[@Zack_Wester]

@@server1ok the corps will be in one of several different places picked at random when the player start the quest.

[@HonakoGreen]

It shall return...

[@fizziz_1035]

Trucker Woody been there done that

[@xeinex]

It won't be the same when it does south park member berries taught me that sadly

[@smithers4420]

@@xeinex maybe not, but it will still be allot more fun than current wow.

[@eridinthevirgin4191]

Play on lights hope,it's still there

[@chucknorrisok5412]

God damn 1 year ago

[@Rain-Bow]

Leveling from lvl 10 to 30 in the barrens before achievements were introduced should have awarded a feat of strength once wotlk launched.

[@FenerocityGaming]

how do you even dare to say barrens was a bad zone lol?

[@rnelson1415]

The Barrens was there to weed out the casuals who would never see Molten Core and beyond. It separated the men from the boys.

[@jocomfiresin6982]

Ricky Nelson yep... Cause their was no group of people who never had to go-to the barrens unless they decided to go their at Max level.

[@maxrobert88]

Horde Dogs! I'll raid crossroads!

[@genesiswan4018]

Barrens was the appetitser, Tarren Mills was worse, at least in my server back then. Haha

[@cthulhu_original]

Okay boomer

[@fodens3678]

Was in the barrens last night: the chat was lit. 10/10

[@jenkseboy]

same

[@Spamhard]

Barrens chat is still amazing. So nice to see it back to it's glory days.

[@jenkseboy]

Nothing beats fishing at ratchet and talking about male circumcision in general.

[@Spamhard]

@@jenkseboy Or fishing at the oasis for deviate fish while listening to discussions of anal fisting.

[@Flufferz626]

Keanu Reeves memes now apparently.

[@TheBlaert]

Damn there used to be some absolutely epic pvp battles at the crossroads.

[@Rhapsheet]

TheBlaggert insanely good. God i miss it

[@TheRealAb216]

I got my first hk off sitting back and waiting for high lvl horde to show up and hitting alliance play right before his death.

[@chrisdest270]

one time, a lone high level paladin decided to attack x-roads (Dentarg server, shortly after it was added). all the low level questers, probably 20-30 of us, tried to fend him off. it took several minutes, many of us died, ran back, kept up the fight. but we did it eventually. some low level guy /shouted 'for the horde' after he was killed. yeah, you could say how lame it was that it took so many to kill him. or you could say, the horde players defended their town, and the lone alliance player fought 1 vs many, never asking for help or quarter. this is the old way, we will not see it again. this is old school WoW

[@Wwllmm_]

Yh it even was on the game box :D

[@j.r.mocksly5996]

That would have been me ahaha, except I was a mage and often recruited players to join my raids :D

[@silvinator5061]

"where should i go at level 15?" "OUTLAND" YOUR MOMS HOUSE" "ATLEAST I'M NOT 12, i'm 13!"

[@Granolie]

wowcrendor vic

[@merebrillante]

And then you couldn’t get a flight in or out because the flight master was dead.

[@garzila]

The battles to this day....epic!

[@galanie]

and if you complained about that everyone just said Dang dude, run to Ratchet!

[@p0rtugazz]

I only leave barrens once, when I realize was lvl 40 already

[@cras17]

I really loved the old barrens. First getting to this giant zone as a lowbie tauren and needing to make a death defying run up the road to Crossroads is so memorable. And I loved the rolling plains and gentle music. I really felt at peace there. I would even take undead alts there asap to do all the quests.

[@Rhapsheet]

I know exactly what u mean. Could never get passed the giant 4 legged dinasaur things that shot lighting bolts at you at low lvl lmao

[@Axgoodofdunemaul]

I miss the Old Vanilla Barrens. It had a wide-open peaceful feeling that I found refreshing. I quit WOW during Lich King. The game became just too much about bean-counting at that time. But I might go back to Vanilla WOW if I had the chance. It's where I met and "dated" my wife. Roaming with her across the moonlit Barrens with me as Axgood the orc and her as Chela the troll -- I'll never forget that. We were both in our sixties at that time. A real love story in a virtual world.

[@timothygibney159]

Wow classic coming August bro! I know this is a very old comment but if you read it go youtube wow classic. Old is coming back

[@Dethkingvjackson]

Now u can both play classic wow. 👍👌🏼 and old barren again

[@sebastianioanpop3895]

sixties? wow..

[@gscgold]

Great story 💯

[@draggy76]

JOKES ON YOU NERD WE HAVE THE OLD CROSSROADS AGAIN! damn i love WoW classic..

[@Memo-cu8er]

And im killing some horde members there :D

[@GamzaLive]

Hmm I never had any troubles with Mankrik's wife and I actually liked the quest back then. But I do remember being a poor tauren warrior who couldn't afford food or his repair costs lmao. Barrens chat was the best for Chuck Norris jokes.

[@blazed_sins9192]

It's such an easy quest to do if you just read the quest.

[@piplh]

The quest description gives you no indication on where she was location.

[@Aenygma_]

I spent way too much time in Barrens because of constant trolling and shit-posting in the chat.

[@jterrell8965]

Need help finding mankrik's wife

[@jordanparker7407]

The dude is completely wrong, the consumed by hated quest after Mankrik's wife is the cancerous quest, you needed to collect FOURTY quillboar tusks.

[@Nerazmus]

That's exactly why I loved old Barrens all those beautiful quests like Mankrik's wife - which felt like actual quest, not like these "quests" in Legion: Solve these very difficult and tricky riddles, or just look at map and go to marked location. all those quest that made me feel like lowly peasant noob I should be at that level - "you random orc, go over to the other side of the zone and do something" not "aaah mighty level 10 hero who nobody should know about, but I for some reason know of all your heroic deeds, go kill 1 mob behind this corner"

[@TheVsagent]

+

[@Gilpow]

This is a serious problem with any RPG these days.

[@kasperschmidt5665]

Mr.Vojtik So true, and i hate the holding hand through the game and everthing gets delivered on a silver plater. The graphics are getting better sure (in new zones that is) but the gameplay gets worse.

[@michaelkeha]

Mr.Vojtik Blame the meta sheeple they the ones that bitch about this stuff the most and ruin the fun for everyone

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

Basically make the quests harder to complete but give more exp Instead of spoon feeding a huge number quests that they make as easy as possible to pass. And you just trying to burn through them.

[@MusicalBasics]

You know you're a vanilla horde player when you tear up just by listening to Barrens music.

[@Jotun90]

God I almost started crying over this, I would litrally give my right nut to do vanilla through wotlk again with a fresh memory

[@AmericanViking14]

Right on, "with a fresh memory", that's the key I think a lot of the old timers forget when they complain about how things have changed. Even if they could revisit the servers exactly as they were, it still wouldn't be as good, because you can never recapture that feeling of discovering something for the first time. I've always thought that one of the reasons WoW made it so big was it came in just at the tail end of when the very concept of an MMORPG was still magical to most people. It was far enough along to reap the benefits of lessons from earlier games like Everquest, but people were still enchanted by the concept of a multitude of people playing in the same world.

[@PaulEwog116]

Same here. I still love wow but I just cant hardly play it anymore. If I could go back to that magic time it would be fantastic. Oh well, at least we have the memories. The game was truly magical at one point.

[@VictoriaRamos-lj2ee]

Its okay to let it go you are not the only one who feel that way trust me!

[@pungimungibungi560]

Jotun90 same here. the years have gone by too quickly.

[@fthis1234567]

same here friend....same here.

[@Cahejo]

How many times must players tell Mankrik where his wife is before he does something about it?

[@IvanMana]

Jonathan Gréen LMFAO!!!!!!

[@ProtoNeoVintage]

You are assuming hew actually wants her back. He's just keeping tabs on her so he know its still safe to drink.

[@Balaskh]

“Would you even want that again?” B*tch please old Barrens js the only thing that might make me finally buy Classic

[@curiositykilledthecat5118]

Barrens was great back in the day. I remember Barrens chat quite fondly

[@MoneroMac]

Curiosity killedthecat how is it different now? did the expansions change the landscape?

[@kabrozkabroz]

The zone is cut in half but that's not as important as the fact that all of the quests are much easier. Even though Trolls, Goblins, Tauren and Orc's are all funneled there at once now, it doesn't matter because you can blow through the zone, so nobody needs help, and everyones out pretty quickly Leveling also took forever in vanilla, sometimes quests werent enough for you to outlevel a zone and you'd either go to another zone of similar level (there were usually at least 2 once you got past level 20) or you grind mobs. Back in Vanilla there werent even enough quests in the game to hit level 60 and you basically had to grind the last 5 levels... anyway im getting off topic. Also, now alliance isnt as inclined to attack horde settlements and vice versa... you only ever get lone pranksters now. That's about it. I fondly remember getting corpse camped by a gnome mage level 60 while questing from tarren mill.

[@michaelcox9855]

Dancer of the Boreal Valley I started during the Burning Crusade, and even then playing on a PVE server, I remember the bloody body pit that was The Crossroads. I remember Alliance players trying to provoke you into attacking and thus switching to pvp mode by killing your quest givers (which is how me and a fellow warlock ended up facing and slaying a level 25 gnome rogue twice at level 18, we each solo killed him once after the other was stealth backstabbed after he forced us into pvp by backstabbing our quest giver multiple times preventing us from quest completion)

[@fthis1234567]

thats what im saying...it was super fun and emotionally attaching.

[@GrandGoblin]

THE CROSSROADS IS UNDER ATTACK! THE CROSSROADS IS UNDER ATTACK! THE CROSSROADS IS UNDER ATTACK!

[@JohnStephenWeck]

Wow was the Barrens. Now only their only forgotten pieces fill the map. The people that designed the Barrens knew exactly what they were doing in creating a savanna and its atmosphere. A well designed mini-world that was better than most of the rest of the game combined. When Blizzard did the world update that destroyed the Barrens, they basically cut out the heart of the game (when you see magma coming from Blizzard, it means their creative people are gone). The original Wow game design should never have used obvious small zones. The only region to fight this stupid idea was the Barrens, a place you could actually live in. Ratchet and Crossroads were the capitals of this mini-state - they were nothing like the awful over-sized major cities in the game. A lot of people were moving large distances on foot as well - this gave the region an almost Asheron’s Call like open-world feel to its spacing and movement.

[@pizzaturtle6226]

John Weck RIP Asherons Call. Will be missed

[@mariomares6572]

Tanaris and Stranglethorn were beyond awesome too, during BC (when I started playing). Ridiculously high amount of mobs, ridiculously long quests, ridiculously dense concentration of Alliance and Horde players in the same place. It was mayhem all over, everyone was camping everyone and that was a huge part of what made the game great.

[@kefkamadman]

Every toon I levelled in Vannilla after the first always levelled in the Barrens, even my undead toons levelled in the Barrens. You could find literally everything there. Every tradeskill was covered, there was frequent world pvp, and chat was always moving when waiting for WSG to pop, once it was added. Even when I played on Nostalrius, I still levelled my toons through the Barrens.

[@sanghelian]

I dont know how silly this sounds but blizzard changing barrens in cata was a major reason in my decision to quit the wow back then

[@mdm32746]

Not silly at all, it was the beginning of my losing interest as well.

[@justwalkaway9915]

I have old barrens back and im loving every minute of it.

[@blazerashbringer2001]

How the fuck can you forget one crucial detail about the barrens? what about the deviate fish?

[@43CYN]

Yh , even the receipt drops there afaik xD

[@blazerashbringer2001]

43CYN is not what i meant, cause people fish in the lake for that deviate fish hell back then, that was the shit still is

[@blazerashbringer2001]

Genes i feel you ,bought my first tuxedo by the deviate fish, also as a horde every time you try and farm it you get spam by ''cross road under attack'' also in alliance AH the recipe is like 3 gold but the fish is like 99 gold i don't get that logic

[@daytonasixty-eight1354]

I made so much gold as an alliance player farming those fish then selling them.

[@vyg55]

Yes!

[@GuhdarN]

"Crossroad Defense" -guild inbound!

[@ProtoNeoVintage]

You could empty the City with a simple phrase. From the Alliance side you knew that, from the first attack, you had X amount of time before you got steamrolled.

[@mullenio4200]

"Sure we'll never have the old Barrens again..." August 27th 2019 baby!

[@MyViolador]

0:00-0:13 that god damn nostalgic music

[@nikolalutov8898]

name? :)

[@leafyisherelostchin6253]

MyViolador it's still playing on the barrens to this day

[@sdwone]

Ha!!! I've never degraded myself to play Horde EVER! (Ally FTW!!!) But I do remember good ole' Vanilla Barrens ;-))) A nice, chilled out place, with lots of yummy Horde meat to eat. Oh yes, I have participated in raids on The Crossroads... Killing ALL on sight... Horde NPCs, players, rats, fish, cats, dogs, birds... ALL!!! Ah... Those were the days ;-))))

[@michaelcox9855]

John Doe And you have the nerve to call us Horde barbaric. Tssk, filthy murdering Alliance. Make a nonaggression pact only to break it and slaughter women and children with glee.

[@0nliineeGG]

I knew I had smelled ALLIANCE PIGS there.

[@NorthernBeard]

This hit me right in the nostalgia. Thanks for this video, man. Great work!

[@pudgeypigeon]

"would you even want that again?" Yes.

[@ligit2758]

To be honest, I believe that due to gamers standards being so high these days, stuff like old Barrens would be instantly demonized today. The unnecessary challange was what made it so good. Leveling isn't what it was. I myself prefer PvE and just making a character, wondering through these awesome landscapes, meeting weird and wonderful characters and slaying fearsome beasts. Now a days, most players are focused purely on endgame stuff and Blizzard has accommedated for that. It really detracts from the experiance when I venture to take on this legendary beast and see some random orc in armour far too high for his level just one-shot the thing like it was a bloody critter and just move on. I played WoW for a few weeks at WotLK and only REALLY got into at WoD, but even I miss Vanilla :(

[@turbotrup96]

Doomhardt high standards or being overly comfort-focused, rather. Like, the most liked games these days are the ones that require not much effort from you, like the narrative-focused ones (Uncharted 4, GoW, TWD, Witcher 3). Sure, there are exceptions like DS series, but it's popular exactly because most other games focus on the player's comfort rather than challenging them.

[@The80sWolf_]

Vanilla Barrens chat veteran here

[@kxmode]

But did you survive? ;)

[@aussie870]

They must have KZbin access in the coffins now. Ahh, technology.

[@Abraksas112]

@Darth Digital That explains why all the trees suddenly disappeared and there's nothing but sand there now

[@kieranklein2527]

I survived!

[@violetlight1548]

My husband and I recently remade our mains in Classic. There wasn't even a question as to where we'd be leveling :) Brought back memories for both of us.

[@DaDunge]

It won't be the same though because one part of what made the barren sunique was that before linked flight paths the crossroads was the one flight path that linked to pretty much everything. That's a big reason why Barrens was thw way it was.

[@PeterNielsen-ov2is]

@@DaDunge was crossroads never linked to the other fp in other zones in early vanilla?

[@DaDunge]

@@PeterNielsen-ov2is Linked flightpaths wasn't a thing in early wow. You had to do one hop at the time and crossroads sat in the middle of the network for the horde in Kalimdor.

[@chazhartwayne6493]

I miss the old pre Cata Overworld.

[@CaedaFera]

I do as well; I remember playing this back in the day...

[@ithila6712]

Chaz Hartwayne did someone mention...........

[@thethirdsicily4802]

THUNDERFURY BLESSED BLADE OF THE WINDSEEKER????

[@Nooplies]

Chaz Hartwayne Shimmering Flats :(

[@rackkarungen]

+ LOTR SOLDIER did somebody saaaay?...

[@smilly456]

"We'll never have old barrens again" months later wow classic

[@joshcboy]

Classic wow? has blizzard released a classic wow ?

[@vladnicolaeradu905]

They announced a Classis WoW server on last Blizzcon. It will probably launch after the release of the next expansion Battle for Azeroth on 14,08,2018.

[@Fenronin]

probably in 2 or 3 years I would say

[@itchydez]

smilly456 - It won't be the same, though. People are more experienced at the game and have a much better understanding. You'll never get it like it once was.

[@xeinex]

It won't be the same sadly

[@Iroquoiz]

I loved the Barrens back in the days , the peacefull music and watching the full moon when running around searching for quest locations.. ...damn i miss the Barrens!

[@silverhand9965]

Where's Mankrik's wife?

[@lazthope8156]

The Silver Dragon follow the gold road south, after the bridge, turn right

[@lazthope8156]

The Silver Dragon was the good answer back in the days

[@matthewcarson3736]

Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

[@MrMonkeeHat]

Only Barrens chat knows.

[@greyleaf]

I last heard she was turning tricks in Westfall.

[@cb-ns2xy]

Barrens Suck is exactly what made the game so great, thats what blizzard hasnt figured out. It built the back bone for future friendships with your fellow horde players. Someone who played allience or started playing after the bulk of the player base had lvl'd to 60 would look back on the barrens in a negative light, but a horde player who started early in the game would probably look back on the barrens and wish they could recreate that experience again. I remember creeping my way around pig people tryin not to get killed by wondering packs and all of a sudden seeing "crossraods is under attack" spammed. Saving HELL YA and bee lining it over to defend my house. I LOVED early barrens its right up theres with early raiding MC and BWL and vanilla AB,WSG and 8 hour AV battles. Show less

[@SkyEdge85]

8 hours a.v? In oceania server i was in.. a.v last more than 13 hours before the cross-server bg.. u could literally go to school and come back to rejoin defending the bridge lol

[@mdm32746]

Right on. Made so many friends defending crossroads back in late vanilla-early bc. People that no longer play but are still friends to this day.

[@Weltall8000]

I still remember how a fellow guildmate and I worked jobs at the same restaurant on the weekends and on a few occasions we joined AVs on Thursday nights, we'd log out late Thursday/early Friday, go to work, come home, join the same AV, play into the night, go to work, come home and join apparently the same instance through Sunday evening. I don't even care about the medallions or whatever thing they put in to encourage spamming AV victories or losses, the battleground was fun and playing it was itself the reward. Barrens was also fun to go to, even though I was a little more interested in the Forsaken thematically/lorewise, I did enjoy coming over to the rest of the Horde's territory for that zone. Additionally, I eventually got a Chuck Norris Fact Generator mod and whenever I would travel through the zone on a flight path or mount, I would activate it like every 30 seconds to keep Barrens Chat alive.

[@pauls4522]

Early vanilla has strong nostalgia for me. It was as released at just the right time of the year :)being released late 2004, it gave me plenty of time during Christmas break in school to play it. I remember leveling my first character from 1 to 53 in just 5 weeks. However then I deleted my mage because it was a crappy rpg server, and started a warrior. It took me until June to hit level 60. Then I remember raiding all summer. I was on a shysty guild where they would screw over everyone besides the top 8 players though so all I ever got from mc was wrath boots sadly.

[@notevenjoe]

I loved the Barrens and Crossroads.. this brings back good memories of my childhood. I always went to Barrens once I was lvl 12 even as undead.. so much to do and even had a dungeon wailing caverns.. that white lion echeyaki I always tamed when lvling hunters.. and the chat was hilarious too. I quit playing wow around the end of burning crusade.. once in a while I would buy a months subscription just to low lvl pvp a little, through wotlk.. was that like over 10 years ago? I've recently been watching vanilla wow videos and now really considering to start playing when the classic wow server gets launched. I think I'd roll a warlock or a hunter again. Those were my two first lvl 60s.. I focused on my hunter and eventually got full giantstalker, for the %15 multi shot increase, with marksman build, the av crossbow (I really wanted the bwl xbow but my guild never got past razorgore).. back when weapons weren't normalized.. and the wolf pet furious howl and the damage trinket, trying to make my multi shot do as much dmg it became an obsession.. I solo farmed the cenarion hold reputation to get the better damage trinket by first farming mobs for those papers.. then going into maraudon and farming the bosses solo for loot to vendor for gold to just buy the papers from the ah.. brings back memories. I got exalted for cenarion hold, and all I had to do was kill one of the four elite bosses for the quest to get the trinket.. I tried for weeks, at that time no one else was in silithus.. I gave up and quit wow. Then grew up and became a miserable adult whose probably dying of some illness.. I want to go back..

[@Zekzak-w3k]

mAN, that's dark.

[@joshuaabe4832]

Vanilla Barrens was, and still is my favorite zone in WoW. It made the world feel huge. It made it feel alive. The quests were neat and tidy, it had an amazing instance, and the general chat was amazing. I still remember my first run through on my very first WoW character. I was Undead, and the game came ALIVE once I got to the Barrens.

[@naer3513]

But not your undead though 😂

[@Rpground]

I would argue that the old barrens, despite me not being a horde player, was better then the new barrens. Getting people together is important for an MMO, community is one of the support beams of the MMO whole. The Barrens had that in spades. The only thing you see now are people around "rare" spawns...and even that has died down quite a bit.

[@Rpground]

It's funny because you go to a vanilla server, I was on Nost before it was shutdown, community was vibrant and full of life. People everywhere doing quests, helping each other actually DO the quests because you weren't fucking GOD at level 1. Enemies were hard, hell even a small group had trouble in loch modan at the kobald caves! I made four friend there because we accidentally spent 4 hours there just talking and killing the things. You don't see that anymore in current WoW, you don't see that almost anywhere anymore.

[@gg5115]

I think you had some of both back then. The need to group up made people nicer and want to group up. But then with places like the Barrens being so vast, often you were the only toon for miles around. Helped you fall into the role of the lone hero saving a village or something.

[@blazerashbringer2001]

YOU WILL GET A GARRISON AND YOU WILL LIKE IT what's this community? the fuck you thinks this is some sort of mmorpg? what are u gay here is your own artifact now go be a solo cowboy

[@blazerashbringer2001]

FeyWinter Fox you say you are a fox but i see a picture of a wolf i don't trust you anymore, also SOONtm for real wow has gone a long way it kinda is better but now i feel is a bit repetetive and too much i do so i go on steam instead of whining on the like internet because what will be the point of it but yeah i hope it get better

[@madcroc111]

There is Elysium right now. I've enjoyed it as much as I did vanilla back in the day.

[@Myname-jy9pb]

My absolute favorite thing to do as horde in the barrens: 1) Wait for the boat at ratchet 2) Get on 3) MC any alliance players and throw them off as the boat nears the zone exit 4) ??? 5) Profit

[@dasse1588]

How is that a profit?

[@AzraelThanatos]

WotLK did improve that with the DK's being able to send enemy players hurtling across the entire continent to the ships of the damned for a while.

[@danortiz]

WoW was great, not because its Graphics, Mechanics or even gameplay... it was great because their social interactions. You were sucked to this bizarre place where you laugh, rage, cry, and get all kind of adventure and tales... The Barrens was the first place where you met your friends and companions, when you get invited to a guild, to Wailing Caverns, to world pvp... It wasn't the perfect leveling map, but who cared, it was wonderful place to just be there. And I miss every single moment w/o it. We will miss you Vanilla Barrens. The most hated, and loved leveling zone in the game.

[@sargentwaag1483]

Right on. I played a few years more than most of the cool people I started with. It was more than just a grind it was a party.

[@rosebeforehoes9829]

We're back

[@de14jabs]

oh the memories of barrens chat...god i miss playing in BC

[@amazing00019]

Check out WoW Hellground. They will release a new TBC realm in the first week of March. All scripted, the Kharazan Chess board works perfectly and everything works amazingly and almost perfectly ( so far i have not encountered any bug )! The realm is open until 28 february for testing - you get instant 60 and you can either chose to level in outland or just level until 70 from a vendor. You can get items and start doing dungeons and raids. It will be a blast and I can't wait for them to open the new realm !

[@zalgradis1564]

why are all these scrubs missing playing the game, when theres plenty of fantastic private servers out there?! its annoying to see how stupid you all are. check em out and forget about blizzard singleplayer facebook game.

[@fthis1234567]

i miss vanilla and wotlk. For some reason i never really like bc too much.

[@amazing00019]

Vanilla: elyssium project ; WotLK: Warmane ; TBC: Warmane ( new realm starting at 20 may, it's gonna be as good as Lordaeron, the best wotlk server there is ). Cheers

[@Diehard4182]

is there anyway to transfer a char from elyssium to warmane?

[@eddiewinehosen6665]

I had a friend that summed up Cataclysm perfectly "Some fires and a crack in Barrens. Is that what they call a fucking Cataclysm???"

[@RAZRfreak]

Never played WOW but this video made vanilla WOW sound so much fun. I was planning on playing WOW for the first time on the Classic server as a human, but after watching this I might go with Horde. Hopefully the experience will be the same as it was back then.

[@akoww1000]

I hope all questing and leveling in Classic will be the same as it used to be. The Barrens was my favorite leveling zone.

[@NathanFostr]

RAZRfreak I was Alliance but I had a Horde on another server and Loved Barrens.

[@Rhapsheet]

It wont be. Itll never be the same again. Rip

[@ledeasoakenbough]

RAZRfreak do both!

[@DarthRevan260]

RAZRfreak It won't be the same as it was back then

[@TatsuMainframe1]

Took years to walk from one end of the Barrens to the other, plus there was no flight master in Camp Taurajo when the game first launched. Then when Warsong Gulch was introduced we had to walk all the way from Crossroads or Splintertree Post in Ashenvale to get to it.

[@joshi2381]

Did somebody say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of The Windseeker]?!?

[@RoboticsNShenanigans]

Jesus could walk on water, but Chuck Norris can swim through land.

[@balintkristof8442]

RoboticsNShenanigans the usinverse is expanding because everything flees from Chuck Norris

[@nismojutsu]

Chuck Norris gave the baby Jesus the gift of beard. He wore it until his death.

[@赴大家惡化不得好死時]

Chuck Norris can walk on Jesus

[@XraygogsTV]

I liked Wailing Caverns

[@mika9937]

the door➡️

[@commander_fu6457]

The atmosphere in the barrens was really good. The music and the vastness of the zone was just great, sometimes you felt so alone and lost wandering around when you played late at night. It felt like a real place, tedious to travel through but so satisfying to explore. I think this zone is what really pulled me into the game a long time ago. But the state of the game at the moment is horrible in my eyes, its so easy and you just follow UI-elements that point towards whatever you need to do. It devolved almost into an idle-clicker type game, it feels meaningless and dull. I never thought I will play again but I can't help to be a bit hyped about the classic realms, going to experience some nostalgia I hope.

[@aarongerste3755]

before watching this i say chuck norris chat had better be on this list i will report back

[@aarongerste3755]

good

[@javaguy418]

Aaron Gerste Zombies prep for the Chuck Norris apocalypse.

[@DaRealRoachDoggJr]

You should do old AV next.

[@Nerazmus]

No, No, not the bridge, I don't want to go to the bridge, please ...

[@hirumaredx]

lol, thats actually a planned video similar to this one

[@DarkClown06]

Depends on which side you're tying to cross from. Red does NOT enjoy the bridge.

[@DaRealRoachDoggJr]

hirumaredx Holy shit!

[@KevinChanderpaul]

that was the best, games went on for days making it damn near impossible to get the unstoppable force.

[@TheSolidTyler]

I have a lot of nostalgia about The Barrens. I'm actually excited to re-experience it again. I was young at the time and having created a lot of alts and had multiple accounts I spent a lot of time in The Barrens. Oh how I missed it.

[@Wespa64]

does anyone know where mankriks wife is?

[@Zineus]

Wespa64 VASH'JIR!

[@Artrysa]

And if she's not in Vashj'ir try Silithus.

[@Nankeroo]

Maybe you should try Uldum?

[@themanfromutopia4743]

at my house

[@Artrysa]

Well you're quite the hostile one aren't ya?

[@Terminus_4]

I get nostalgic about the Barrens... Like I want that experience again, I can't explain why. But I do.

[@Torontogal1973]

LvL60 was a stand up and pump your fist cheer.

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

Barrens was something unique that came about due to several intersecting factors. Having experienced barrens chat makes one feel like part of something bigger. It's was a rite of passage for all horde😌

[@BlueberryDragon13]

When I started playing wow in legion, I loved the barrens. Now, knowing the zone's history, I like it even more.

[@Hurtydwarf]

I hate all these shortcuts to leveling. It was so fun going through all the zones, doing all the dozens of quest lines per zone, running into all the players. Now, you're lucky if you even see 5 players while going through a zone. Also, did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?

[@redgeoblaze3752]

and if it wasn't so fun? then you can just say "screw it" and have an alternative to get to max level while having fun, that being the dungeon finder

[@Hurtydwarf]

I'll never understand how playing the same dungeons over and getting 3 levels per dungeon to skip all the hours of content they put into the game is fun. Going out and exploring is so much better than farming dungeons. But whatever floats your boat.

[@maxben3391]

I'm with you, as someone who loves leveling alts I don't even bother with low level dungeons. Going through quests chains, stories great and small, exploring the nooks and crannies of Azeroth, that's what got me into WoW in the first place. I can't imagine wanting to get around that just to sit in Ogri and click LFG/LFR all the time.

[@tremedar]

Current content is by far more interesting, and if you feel like experiencing old questing, that's what alts are for. This from a player who got in at late vanilla, with just enough time to get a 60 before tbc. Nowadays I have one of every class on both factions. Vets have seen it all before, we don't need to see it again. If that's your thing, great, do that, but all the alternative leveling methods are there for those of us who don't want the old slow way.

[@DubmanicGetFlazed]

I

[@tinas4389]

This makes me feel so many things. I used to go on the swings at my elementary school, squint my eyes until I could barely see anything, swing as high as I could and look at the ground pretending to be in The Barrens because the woodchips sort of resembled the ground in the game when I squinted hard enough lol. It was super fun. I was about 9. I love hanging out by Wailing Caverns to this day lol.

[@jamesgames4142]

I personally have very fond memories of the Barrens. I learnt so much about my class, the game, the kindness and sometimes not so kindness of other players, and how I could genuinely never see myself leaving this game. There's a deep feeling of nostalgia whenever I think about it. All of the people we passed, those we spoke with, those we cursed... I hope they're happy, wherever they are. Great vid. ❤

[@JDKillin240]

I cant wait to quest here when they release classic!!!! I started in wrath but i remember spending quite some time here

[@akoww1000]

Me too, I was just thinking that. And doing my warriors class quest there :) no more dungeon finder , easy leveling and walking every where until 40 :) I miss the days of fear of being killed while leveling or just heading to do a quest

[@JDKillin240]

yea i feel the dungeon finder made leveling way too easy, nice to level alts but really easy. I cant remember any significant moments leveling my alts but i remember a lot with my main. I haven't played wow since the end of cata and i'm looking forward to coming back. I think ill reroll my main in classic

[@argentorangeok6224]

I've been going through these "good ol' days of WoW" videos. They put a grin on my face. Can't wait for classic.

[@bigmonke2899]

I loved nearly everything about the zone except for that stupid quest, were you had to kill like a hundred of quiboars just to get 3 weapons. But the ambience, the danger and the feeling of wilderness was absolutely mood. If the zone design was only done that way by accident, then it was a lucky shot. I had the best time of my leveling phase in this zone. The openness, the variety of hostiles just developed a very horde - like feeling to me. And in some weird kind of way, the zone Feld pretty cozy. The chat was awesome. Ever questet in the barrens at Friday night? It was so funny. So many jokes. And I once encountered two people discussing life in a very deep way and I joined the conversation and we told storys of our childhood and then got into a group for the caverns. The zone felt like wow was the real world. And there is no alliance zone that can compare to that experience

[@auca3473]

I honnestly cant wait for vanilla servers and these shitty quests. Im done with boa instant gratifaction, all the levels are belong to me bullshit. I want the lvl 40 expsenive mount and i want to grind and save to get there and afford it. I want this shit man, ive played every expansion alot. Theres 0 challenge now.

[@CreamyPesto505]

The thing about "bad zones"... I believe a big part of WHY server communities died was because of the Cata re-design. Yes, gameplay wise, Barrens might not have been the best. Though the difficulties of being there are what spawned the chat that it did. People looking for groups for the THREE dungeons in the zone, help with quests, Crossroads defense, trolling, memery, or just chilling. The same thing applies to Arathi Highlands, Duskwood, Mulgore, and to a lesser extent, Stranglethorn Vale.

[@Retov9]

I agree, strangely enough Barrens, Duskwood and STV were some of my favourite zones..

[@kasperschmidt5665]

jrmurphy505 When blizzard trues to fix things, they destroy everything around it in the process, and they never learn

[@xaviervega468]

LOVED Stranglethorn Vale. Never cared much for the Barrens though.

[@fouronetwo813]

The first time I went through STV and entered Booty Bay was mind blowing. Good times.

[@JapanForSale]

Exactly. Barrens, being as big as it was, was a little mini world that you and dozens of strangers, sight unseen, could live in and truly experience. Then when you wanted to, you could group up for the dungeons which had branching paths and took hours to complete. Everything in that zone was a mini representation of Blizz's design philosophy back then: focus on the journey, not the destination.

[@picassoimpaler3243]

"The Barrens is under attack!" Jesus im so excited for classic

[@EJsGameplay]

If they ever introduce scaling to old world zones, the Barrens is one place I think I'd like to stick around till completion.

[@Mycenaea]

Why? It's so different now.

[@EJsGameplay]

Because I still like it, and never fully explored all the changes. Not that I really need a justification though.

[@Steelflight773]

I hated The Barrens back then. I am probably one of the few that misses the old Hillsbrad Foothills though.

[@ghoulunathics]

i loved it so much, the cata rework looks absolutely horrible. same with silverpine forest and tirisfal glades.

[@andreadamon2197]

I loved when Alliance could level there through Southshore

[@jamesscott7944]

Same i love the Hillsbrad Foothills especially the towns there.

[@brandonkellner2920]

Hillsbrad Foothills was basically just a death trap for Horde players, at least in the early days. I miss that zone too.

[@FirstLast-gk6lg]

i miss Tanaris and Eastern Plague Lands

[@WillShackAttack]

8:52 "Sure we'll never have the old Barrens again..." WoW Classic launches. "Oh. We have the old Barrens again."

[@Synystr7]

I still have my "I survived Barrens Chat" t-shirt.

[@Corristo89]

I miss Vanilla WoW for its clunky design. Vanilla WoW is like your first car you actually owned and didn't borrow from your parents: It wasn't fast. It wasn't comfortable to be in or drive. And it sure as hell wasn't going to attract ladies. But you persevered because you knew every part of it, from the last rusty bolt to the dirty footmats with gallons of beer and vomit in them. I had so much fun in the Barrens. Not because of the zone's design, but because of the people I endured them with. Basically every Horde player could relate and that shared suffering created bonds which lasted for quite some time.

[@sargentwaag1483]

I was on one of the largest Horde servers and got to know the big dogs of our server when they came to defend crossroads. Everyone was cool.

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

@@sargentwaag1483 lol the big dogs being basement dwellers with sweaty armpits, and Cheetos stains on their old unwashed tshirt. Good times 😢

[@sargentwaag1483]

@@DivineAtheistWannabe Dont forget the "Stadium Bags"

[@garrettvenn9022]

"What do you remember about old Barrens?" Me: "Chuck Norris jokes."

[@gurtthedwarf]

It's not really "bad design", it's a different design doctrine. Places like Tarren Mill and the Barrens were hotspots for world PvP because Blizzard wanted it to be, back in the first patches of Vanilla there was no notion of "World PvP" because "World PvP" was PvP, no bgs no arenas no nothing. So we have zones were Alliance and Horde control overlaps, like hillsbrad and barrens. They were the battlegrounds, by design, they were geographycally important. (If you think about it, the first bgs were conceptually placed in similar zones... that ,I feel, is a strong argument for my idea about this). Sure Blizzard might have done something better, like creating a way to direct people to the actual fighting rather than just saying that the barrens is under attack. Believe me when I say that Vanilla wow can bring back those experiences, it's not just the novelty of the game back when it came out that makes you feel nostalgic about it, all of the design choices made it a very engaging game, and that's why we need it back, because it's a game that does not exist anymore. WoW Legion and BfA might share the name, but the experience is so changed that I now feel they are completely different games. We want both of them now.

[@aussie870]

Addressing why classic is good and needed without trashing modern WoW. +1 from me.

[@Jayremy89]

Blizzard being so obsessed with fine tuning and scripting of this game i feel ruined the culture, immersion and general adventure/epicness of it. Vanilla days were less predictable, reckless and they were far more adventurous. Blizz wasn't afraid to do things like Highlord Kruul city massacres or even at the end of TBC with the player spread Plague. Or have crazy ass dungeons. None of which were conventional in their design and parties could spend hours in them. Come TBC and especially WotLK, everything was made like it waslike a cookie cutter or out of a factory assembly line and Blizzard wanted players to get a specific experience and play a certain way because all of the anal competitive/pro players and wannabes started to get a hold of WoW dev's ears and cried for all of it to be so and noobs wanted to experience what the pros did... This all cheapened the memorable world experiences. The only good things WoW produced since were scripted to be what we got and convenience features and new cheap fun things to kill time, merely keep their game alive for old and new players would have been riding on the fence of quitting/playing. They focused to much on the game tuning, not the experience. I thing they could've fixed/tuned it all better and still kept authenticity if it wasn't so much intended on controlling (limiting) the player's experience (just to streamline the game).

[@mindydottellis4339]

Oh my god, the plague spread was one of my favorite memories of the game! So, so fun. I don't think we'll ever see something like that again. People got too butthurt. :l Oh, and I remember spending freaking *years* in Sunken Temple back in the day. When I got that one I knew it'd be at minimum a 2 hour time commitment, lol.

[@eliot7189]

Millions disagree.

[@kyledonahue536]

too true

[@gorgorgorgorgor1]

Millions more agree.

[@ElectricHDx]

Eliot Williams how do you know. They dont even release the player numbers anymore lol

[@1hpOutbreak]

I miss Barrens Chat so much! I knew you'd mention Chuck Norris also, gives me chills!

[@samljer]

i think barrens was fantastic in vanilla.

[@XanCrews]

Fuck those zhevra hooves! Easily the worst part of the zone I can remember. Barrens chat was my favorite though.

[@likira111]

Man I remember playing this game when I was like 8. I somehow got stuck near a healer in the barrens surrounded by predators and it took me literal days to finally be able to run out of there.

[@thefakejoew]

Well Dreanor was kinda a zone you were forced to go to, I had a dreadful experience in each and every area. my how warlords of dreanor sucked

[@hydromancer4916]

not as bad as that one place with all the bridges in highmountain with mobs at every corner and that one stupid rare deer running around

[@thefakejoew]

v0ider Well if you did Highmountain last you could pretty much skip everything, you got 110 before getting halfway. In Dreanor I had to do every fucking quest in every fucking zone.

[@PurpleZebras150]

Yeah WoD sucked for a lot of things for sure - however I do have to give it credit for how awesome the PvP was. Best PvP since WotLK, perhaps even better.

[@Golemoid]

Actually leveling in WoD is awesome.

[@DJstarrfish]

Yeah, I'm gonna say that questing in WoD was better than in Legion too. I miss a couple of things from pre-Cataclysm WoW, and rep grinds are NOT one of them.

[@VeggehGaming]

The counter-argument to your final point is this: Is it not better to feel something about the experience, regardless of if it is positive or negative, than to feel nothing about the experience? Because that is the difference between the vanilla Barrens and the post-Cata Barrens. Both zones are just bland and generic and wholly uninteresting now because the old flaws that would otherwise distract you from it are gone. If you have made content that people would rather skip by doing something else then that content is a failure.

[@ghoulunathics]

agreed with such a force.

[@lugnut1827]

Barrens Chat alone is like half the reason I roll Horde

[@ReyReyzzz]

I never experienced vanilla wow, so classic wow to me is going to feel like how vanilla players felt when they played vanilla for the first time, im so fricking excited

[@percnowitzki1724]

Ik ur comments old but unfortunately it wouldn’t have been the same. Vanilla WoW was a very different thing to Classic community wise

[@pauls4522]

This video may be over a year old. But it hypes me for wow classic more. :)

[@Marshal_Dunnik]

Killing the flight master at the Crossroads was the best way to get some revenge against the Horde

[@simbadas1234]

weird, i somehow never had trouble with alliance players in the barrens, but i have had trouble with horde players in darkshire.

[@timothygibney159]

That's because Horde would go to Stranglehorn to PVP and some were tired of of the dry barrens. Duskwood is one zone away and filled with noobs and low level players and sparsely guarded. Same reason crossroads was attacked often. Crossroads and Stranglehorn sucked on PVP realms

[@LetsGoGetThem]

Alliance bias dood alliance bias