Vanilla Warlock PvP Guide! Talents, Rotation, Pets, Curses

[@ExecutusGaming]

Macro: /target (your name) without () /script CastPetAction (4)

[@TheCrazyredman]

left click dispells your target right click dispells you /cast [button:2,target=player] Devour Magic; Devour Magic

[@TheCrazyredman]

a good one if your running soul link and a void walker #showtooltip /stopmacro [nocombat] /stopmacro [nopet:voidwalker] /cast [pet:voidwalker] Sacrifice /cast fel domination /stopcasting /cast summon voidwalker so you sac your void and instant sum another void great one but this macro dose have a 15min cd because fel domination

[@foxmulder8955]

@@TheCrazyredman you better don't do a macro for this because in many cases it's better to sum an other pet (most likely felhound). Assuming all the relevant spells have key binds it's really not hard to press 3 buttons.

[@janlongaver]

hi, if i tryed use this Macro, still showing me- script has been blocked from an action… why?

[@markblaze4909]

Decent video bro. Few other tips you missed: 1. howl of terror - very good vs hunter and pet or any 2on1 situation. 2. drain life range is 20 yards only or 24 with grim reach. and without fel concentration its going to suck cock in pvp. 3. shadow ward vs priest other warlocks 4. vs other warlocks its all about the fear- and banish or fear the void so he can't sacrifice it. you can't sac a void walker while it is CC. 5. swiftness potions 6. invisibility potions for world pvp to get away. never cry about being camped 7. living action potions or free action potions vs rogues 8. limited invulnerability potions 9. succy- in vanilla no cd on seduction, but her mana will go low so disable some of her auto casts. 10. one more time: use your healthstones EVERY FIGHT. so many noobs dont use them. 11. also leveling vs higher level players go in the water they can't move faster than you in the water and often cant catch you. get a swim speed potion or swim speed belt and you're golden. 12. health funnel is total shit in vanilla dont use it. 13. put on detect invisibility and water breathing all the time because they are magic buffs and when someone tries to dispell your demon armor they may dispel them instead. ALSO detect invisibility can see mages that go invisible. and in vanilla, players can not see each others buffs without casting mage spell to see them. 14. dont depend on nightfall- its so unpredictable sadly. 15. if you are not moving while casting instant cast spells you're doing something wrong. ALWAYS move towards or away from your target. key to warlock is movement and CC while hard casting. 16. get 8% move speed on boots. use movement trinket- swiftness potions. you didn't do much more in talents but i must tell you that the spec you showed is my favorite. CONFLAGRATE all the way. very good video- best tips on warlock that i've seen so far. i approve. which is very unusual.

[@ExecutusGaming]

Thank you!! Great tips from you as well!

[@motive7475]

@@ExecutusGaming when leveling this spec where do you put talents in first?

[@bradf1015]

Mark Blaze good shit, thanks for the reminders

[@JeanRausis]

Invisible mages in vanilla? lol.

[@uioup7453]

When should fear be casted? Also, how could I go against rouges?

[@Blazingwheel]

Christ Warlocks sound like they have an answer to everything, OP much

[@lihisluikku]

You forgot to mention the soul link shadowburn spec. You go 31 in demo for soul link and all the juicy stuff that brings, at least 5 in aff to get instant corruption. And at least 11 in destro to get imp shadowbolt, bane and shadowburn. The remaining 4 points can be spent on devastation for 4% crit, on supression for 8% reduced resists on aff spells, or 2 on imp lifetap for more mana sustain. This spec is like the SL spec you showed... but it can cast immolates faster, it has fast cast shadowbolts and soulfires, and it has shadowburn for bigger burst damage. With decent PvP gear you can still retain the 1 shotcombo of fear -> soulfire/shadowbolt+shadowburn, while packing the OP demonology defense. This spec is way more versatile in the sense that you can kinda be a budget mage if you sacrifice a succubus, because you got better shadowbolts and a shadowburn too. (obviously deep destro is better at being a glass cannon budget mage, but it lacks any sort of defense if you get jumped. SL shadowburn has decent burst while being insanely tanky)

[@Ejacula]

Exactly. Can't wait to play it in vanilla. I'll be running 7/33/11 (gotta have that imp ss)

[@nefarianserben682]

Great work man thx, and here are some additional notes: You can not dispel Curses with your Felhunter only Magic Effects, also CoT reduces also the DoT damage of the enemy. Also if you know you cant keep a Warrior away from you (for example you have no Succubus out and he is Fear immune which is very often the case) I would recommand to use Death Coil as late as possible. In the last moments of a fight the Warrior is most dangerous because he has generated rage and you drop low. What you can try in a 1vs1 is to DoT the Warrior such that he has to change is stance to charge you and then Death Coil his charge before he is at you (this is tricky) - movement speed enchant helps as well. That way the Warrior loses all his gap closing abilities (if he is not an Engi). If you have CoE (for example if you are SM / Ruin) and your a Gnome: You can try vs Warriors and Rogues is Escape Artist into CoE. If the Warrior is not careful you can sometimes create distance which i.e. win. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmSQZ6Z4jbara5o

[@eric6378]

I have been looking for a Vanilla Warlock PVP guide for awhile. This is excellent.

[@dylanf4725]

Thanks. I didn't know what class I wanted to play but I think I might go with Warlock now.

[@Andrew-vt2wq]

1:05 Heads up. The improved drain life talent does not increase your total drain life damage after spell damage has been added. It only affects the base values, I've tested this. This means that at final rank you won't drain 71 life per tick but 78, and then spell damage will be added on top of that. Overall, bad talent.

[@Sammysapphira]

It's not bad, it has double value because drain life deals decent damage and heals at the same time. Using it when you don't have time to fully cast a shb is great.

[@Andrew-vt2wq]

@@Sammysapphira i'm saying the talent is bad, not that drain life as a spell is bad.

[@jerseyj2]

Cool vid. I definitely leaned a few things. Warlock is a new class for me.

[@Auld17]

Great video man. As a new Warlock, this was extremely helpful. :)

[@Tarran7777777]

It even says in the tool tip that you can't use doom on players. God dammit xD

[@ExecutusGaming]

I didn't read that, sorry!

[@pedroj3432]

Yeah that was the only wtf moment in the whole video. He is 100% right in everything else

[@ZoraleePvP]

Pedro J 11:55 felhunters can not dispell curses

[@azzinoth1995]

Lol, the paladin felt familiar at first sight :D

[@sheldonvern]

i think he did a lot of research and is actually trying to help people but made some mistakes

[@TheAdoris]

Curse of reckless is very good during PVE especially with mobs which are runing in fear with low hp. Just put curse of reckless (rank 1) and instantly they are comming back. It's very good against murlocks :D

[@ashnikko2141]

Warlock rotation circle: a) fear b)if feared, dot c)fear d)if feared, dot e)if you are hit use 1million hp healthstone. Also fear. f)if feared, dot. Note that at any point in between a->f, you can use life drain and depending on spec immolate conflag for 10k damage. g)If you fell asleep and died midfight, you can self rez.

[@wildwest1832]

yeah sure until fear gets resisted. Also fear has a decent cast time if someone is on top of you

[@pendragonshall]

Affliction warlocks always trump destruction spec. If both are equally talented/skilled. I don’t know how many destruction locs talk about how they eat up affliction locs so I duel them I destroy them and they can’t figure out why. But I had a ton of fun with destruction just watching the damage melt players. In that moment you out DPS a mage on destruction is awesome.

[@jubjub2m6]

In Vanilla I always ran a 7/31/13 build to get the shadowburn...nightfall is great and all but garunteed shadowburn can be awesome. I thought that build was the best by far.

[@mannejohnsson2995]

7/31/11 u mean i guess

[@anthippo91]

Is there addon that shows the duration of fear or howl of terrror has left haven’t played played in many years and looking for some help with add ons.

[@jenkinsleeroy4164]

Man im stuck between leveling a Lock or Shadow Priest on classic, I need the SP guide pliz :D

[@connermcmahan5528]

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14frM-4XUgGfUv0RbRZVcJg32R4rqhTSDTNeBL2YH8-U/edit#gid=118447046

[@jockek46]

Seduce > Soulfire > "dots because target is 50%"?????? > be a total noob Seduce > soulfire > seduce > shadowbolt > seduce > shadowbolt. Fixed it

[@Mr91Jmay]

It annoys me how many downvotes you get, cool video - liked the in depth on Pets for newer players.

[@ExecutusGaming]

Thanks man

[@georgeluminari2511]

1:12 drain life to heal BOTH you and your pet??? Could you explain how that can be done in classic please?

[@fenriswolf8655]

No Felguard ?

[@billyjoefrancis]

This was a fantastic vid, good job man

[@holymountains818]

How do you manage all those spells? I ran out of room on my keyboard XD

[@zylle1993]

I got 33 keybinds on my lock + mouse. So 36. 12345+shift+ctrl thats 15, then add EQRTFX+shift+ctrl 18 more. Warlock life, you get used to it

[@tirke6599]

Good video. But why you put hunter in a melee category?

[@ExecutusGaming]

Trueshot Aura benefits other melee dps

[@tirke6599]

@@ExecutusGaming ok, but that doesnt make hunter a melee class

[@dmitryperman9586]

4:05 but how do you give order to the pet while you are in loss of control?

[@ExecutusGaming]

Because the pet is not stunned. The pet is still able to attack and use its abilities even if you are CC'd.

[@dmitryperman9586]

@@ExecutusGaming i know this but then you are CC'd game doesnt let you give command to the pets even aggresive pet stands still.

[@csac1979]

I have a question: Why do you not like 31 points in demonology? Already the soulbound effects reducing the damage you get by 30 % means, that the enemy has to deal 42,8 % more damage to kill you. Example: Both have 1.000 health and do 100 dps. So one of you dies in 10 seconds. With soulbound he needs 14,8 seconds to kill you. And that does not include the pet bonus like the 60 resistance or 10 % melee damage reduction!

[@Sammysapphira]

Because your kill potential without conflagrate will be very low. PvP isn't about dps it's about bursting when you have windows to in cc

[@Sebastian-S]

Shadow priest, loved to play it against warlocks

[@throttle1000]

Could you make a guide for Shadow Priest please?

[@ExecutusGaming]

For pvp or pve?

[@throttle1000]

@@ExecutusGaming PvP

[@dargorwarrior]

There is a guide for early pvp gear?

[@Suhdudeb]

Thoughts on R13 gear as lock? If you compare it to Mage, it's garbage, literally only stam, int and some spell damage.

[@ExecutusGaming]

It's not too bad, bwl gear is semi comparable though. I just think r13 set looks so good on ally and horde.

[@Suhdudeb]

@@ExecutusGaming Can't dissaprove, it looks insanely good, my favorite R13 gear.

[@JEL625]

Thanks for the Info. Does the spellstone need to be equipped to dispell debuffs? If so are there macros for unequiping current equipment and using the stone before re-equiping?

[@ExecutusGaming]

You can make a macro to equip your offhand again, but it would have to be on a separate keybind, don't think you can do it in the same macro.

[@DedHaymaker]

Спасибо за гайд, дружище! :)

[@Ozolz]

how u defeat warriors? i get off one death coil but they immune to fear got nothing to cast xcept corruption and agony then drain life

[@ExecutusGaming]

cast immolate or searing pain, if they kick you on Fire, cast shadow bolt. drain life, or shadowburn. Engineering also helps.

[@MrMariy0]

Is it possible to use a macro that when you use spellstone, another offhand gets equipped? at least this would get you some more spell damage after use.

[@jeremiahsmith8499]

Great guide! The only thing is that I play an alliance warlock. And 99% of horde rogues are undead. So like.. I feel pretty helpless when they just ignore my CC and murder me

[@hordegaming8652]

Very informative, Thanks!!!

[@AndreMag89]

Cai i use this demo spec for levelling is good ?

[@АлексМихайлов-ч6э]

very good guide ,thanks !

[@忘れ雪-o7h]

Do you think it's worth playing Warlock on alliance for PvP? Or are they too gimped from WoTF and Shamans?

[@ExecutusGaming]

I still think its worth it, locks on ally are always in need.

[@blkmrrs3111]

Which race is better for warlock, Orc or Undead? I know UD get WoTF and cannibalize , but Orcs get 25% chance to resist stuns.

[@LazyMasquerade]

I vote for orc, simply because melee classes are a bigger threat to Warlocks. Rogues might even think twice about targeting you if there's a non-orc nearby. Undead do look better in dresses though.

[@macp988]

orc for pvp since ure a melee magnet

[@leroo7031]

@Executus Gaming How do you activate PVP although GM mode is active for the demonstration? If I activate the GM mode I can't attack pvp targets anymore?!

[@ExecutusGaming]

If GM mode is on, you cannot attack players. You don't have to be in GM mode to spawn in gear or items.

[@leroo7031]

@@ExecutusGaming Thanks for your quick feedback, but I mean something else. I mean the fact that in minute 17:52 you damage the Warrior, but he doesn't die even though his Life Bar drops to 0. It seems to me that he is immortal even though he is not in GM mode?! I ask so precisely because I am looking for a way to use an immortal training dummy for tests.

[@ExecutusGaming]

@@leroo7031 That character is actually me, I'm just dual boxing. All GM accounts (with a GM of level 3 or higher, max 6) have a default God mode. The command is .god off or .god on i think. Maybe try .godmode off/on. You don't have to be in GM mode to activate this. Regardless, it should be defaulted though.

[@jimgaither5430]

You cant curse of doom players, and im pretty sure fel hounds cant eat curses off of you

[@kovoksgaming]

Awesome vid bud especially Bc warlock is my main ♥️

[@stefenleung]

in organized pvp (10vs10 or 15vs15), all warlocks should either use felpuppy or suc-sex-doll. a successful on seduce and fear opposite team's healers or un-sheep ur team's healer mean a lot more

[@dunndarmdickdarm4060]

In short- Fear Dot Dot Dot Drain life Fear Drain life Skillcoil /spit /laugh

[@captainbattlaxe4535]

Wohl keine andere Klasse in World of Warcraft hat von den Entwicklern so viele Werkzeuge an die Hand bekommen, Unheil anzurichten, wie der Hexenmeister.

[@Redstripe921]

Yes that works in theory, until u get silences or interrupted while trying to cast that damn fear, u can't cast it due to pushback or the targets get too far away =P

[@hanscakestealer8546]

I want the macro that keeps Esfand invincible

[@uioup7453]

Great video, can you make seperate videos on classes, i'd like one against rouges and warriors since they are ugh.

[@flamechicken415]

man i keep getting rekt by hunters, what pet is best against huntards?

[@ExecutusGaming]

Voidwalker or sucubuss. Fear the pet and get full dots on hunter.

[@nenadstevanovic4608]

This was my favourite armor back in the day damn it looks good! too bad on retail we can't transmog it :(

[@01salmaso57]

you can if you buy the Replica item by the rbg achievement :)

[@ntma]

you can use spellstones when poly'd.

[@Regenschein91]

Can u make a Video like this for resto, restohybrid druid please?

[@ExecutusGaming]

I don't know enough about rdruids, sorry my man

[@luargambino]

Teacher, is the orc better for racial for pvp?

[@joshuaroe1402]

luargambino I think it is. A 30% chance to resist stuns can save you a lot but WOTF is good too so either choice would work fine.

[@wildwest1832]

how do you fight rogues? what if they get the first hit?

[@Gymkhana86]

RIP...

[@woot672]

Use seduction while being stunned, sit out the stun, death coil, fear + dots.

[@saeedhct80]

Thank you for this amazing video Now i have a question: i would like to know what is a good talents for pvp and dungens at same time, like i can use this talent for both, if its possible 😊

[@Tarran7777777]

For that you want SM/Ruin. Your shadowbolt still hits hard, and you're very viable in PvP, if lacking the survivability from Soul link. You can raid with this specc, while it's fun and good for PvP too. It's also your go-to leveling specc.

[@danielhernandez2575]

@@Tarran7777777 Goto level spec is drain tank

[@Tarran7777777]

@@danielhernandez2575 which is sm ruin. You go into affliction first, and then into destro after 40. Has always been the optimal leveling spec. So far as wrath at least.

[@zeljakis817]

can you purge sl lock soul link from his pet with felhunter?

[@perjyboy]

nope

[@yappyzk]

Macro not working on blizz wow classic for me. macro script has been blocked

[@TJ-2067]

Ya I was wondering what's the fix for macros with scripts in them

[@colocode6979]

make multiple healthstones!

[@Cube420]

Fairly sure curse of doom is only pve and cannot be used in pvp. But then again I could be wrong.

[@jenkinsleeroy4164]

Thx man was looking forward to this.. If you can make Ele Sham next

[@ExecutusGaming]

Maybe

[@Freyii]

I cracked the fuck up when your felhunter walked away. Do you think that undead is better than orc for pvp?

[@Spottswoode]

how is warlock pvp on alliance? How is dealing with WotF?

[@Haps_q]

Its a different play style but its doable.

[@Mammel248]

its gay because not only do you have to deal with wotf, in bgs there are going to be shamans with tremor totems

[@Spottswoode]

wow that sounds really annoying to deal with. such a shame

[@ExecutusGaming]

Its hard, but it definitely is still cool. The video I linked in the comments shows a r13 human lock.

[@parranoya100]

It's raining in the Gurabashi area.

[@DRGNSLR]

Isn’t it illegal in America?

[@hhhgggds]

Lol curse of idiocy reduces intellect and spirit🤣🤣🤣 love it

[@naruclarke]

No Love for SM/Ruin? or too mainstream, it was THE cookie cutter build for vanilla lock

[@4ff3]

The question is... warlock or mage for pvp?

[@coffex]

They both have pros and cons, both are quite strong for pvp. mages have a very high skill ceiling, they control the battlefield through their blink/slow/poly etc, but are super squishy, they have excellent aoe potential for groups but you have to get in the thick of it. When you fail as a mage its _usually_ your fault. Warlocks in contrast have very little maneuverability (you've basically gotta face-tank enemies), but much bigger health pools (plus healthstones!). DOTs and fear are legit amazing in 1v1, and for blanketing big bg groups, and as a bonus your pve tier gear doubles as pvp gear. I'll be running a lock for classic launch but its been a hard decision :(

[@ondamixtape]

Orc or undead ?

[@mrmatch276]

Undead for pvp

[@senuashie]

Wait isnt that paladin EsfandTV's character?

[@ExecutusGaming]

yep :)

[@bh-0330]

pc spec on twitch still the same?

[@ExecutusGaming]

Ya for the most part

[@bh-0330]

detail just looks very clean, guess videos like this arent processor intensive to film but love your vids man

[@ExecutusGaming]

They are not, they are GPU intensive. I just record at a very high quality and render at a high quality

[@AdamNicholsMusic]

I'm a human warlock and I just can't beat undead players. It feels impossible with their racial ability

[@ExecutusGaming]

Try for more damage. Get up dots right away including immolate. Start casting searing pain or use coil or try to fear him to get the cd out of the way early. Have you been using felhunter pet and using CS on shadow school? Also dispel yourself of his dots if you think you are undergeared. You can also use a spellstone, great for countering magic players.

[@parranoya100]

at 13:20 it started raining again

[@raider707ful]

You should make a rouge guide

[@ExecutusGaming]

Maybe, there are a lot of rogue guides out there though...

[@blummel97]

Nice felhunter.. 8 second disable IF YOU ACTUALLY LAND IT. Thanks vanilla.

[@simonsky7828]

why you play not mage

[@brainfreeze70]

amazing video

[@basillah7650]

I got high warlock with destruction/affection build back in vanilla just be careful of rogues.

[@danieljacobs666]

None of his demons have skills. He never played warlock, atleast on this toon. They are all how u get them initially without any training/skills. Not to say he never played warlock, but atleast this toon hes only got gear.

[@Tolmonster]

Demon or Destro for PvP?? How odd. My walock in vanilla was nigh unstoppable as affliction in PvP.

[@galacticfederationofficer]

poor esfand, had to take all the hits xD

[@DRGNSLR]

Hey man where did u get vanilla?!

[@papytoxik7364]

to catch a predator

[@romey37685]

1st build i just cant stay and play😂 the Sm/ruin build is my fav

[@jimmy_iKoN]

You can’t curse of doom a player...

[@bh-0330]

5:48 "A Wild Esfand appears?!"

[@Redbaron_Gaming]

xD I remember corpse camping Goth after she was trying to gank lowbies.

[@markblaze4909]

shadowburn is god. . lol at warlocks without it. lol.

[@markblaze4909]

personally i like AFTERMATH. its a low chance to daze but daze is so god damn good its not funny. in vanilla we don't have daze on conflag like in TBC so its our only slow other than gay ass curse of exhaustion which is pretty shitty tbh sorry to say.

[@Az-rg8gk]

loooool bro u cant cast curse of doom on other players

[@ndecarteret4003]

4:08 LOLLL

[@scotsan3857]

20 minutes of tooltips audio

[@JackSprat2323]

Anyone else think this dude sounds like Kevin Bacon?

[@Checkmate54321]

CoD cannot be cast on players.

[@gringgles2633]

spends 15 seconds talking about curse of doom in a pvp video when it has that neat little line in its text of CAN"T BE USED ON PLAYERS.

[@zocks7969]

"i dont know why i am having a stroke today" you have a stroke every time u make a video xd stop looking at the notepad on second monitor also sm/ruin best spec =D

[@Herogames2022]

What i see here is that Warlocks and Mages are retardet OP and should be NERFD !

[@joshuaroe1402]

Biggieboss power How can you nerf classes from the past? It would be like going into a museum and saying “those caveman tools need to be made better”. This game is like a museum piece and can’t be altered because it has already happened. No class in Classic is unbeatable anyway.

[@Herogames2022]

@@joshuaroe1402 NO Its a remade of an old Game its actually not legit Classic WOW its not even the first Patch its the last Naxxramas Patch but for Mc and other Raids makes it easy ass fuck !!

[@jimmy_iKoN]

I should make a video covering the same thing. I feel I was one of the best private server warlocks. Check my channel for some pvp videos

[@larrekato9978]

5 in improved drain life and 1 point in fel concentration..................... on a pvp and even worse a actual duel spec. DONT MAKE MORE GUIDES THANKS!

[@ExecutusGaming]

Sorry, this is a few old and outdated guide. My newer guides have much more thought and knowledge put into them.

[@kylel5526]

Con-flag-a-rate Jesus...