Vanilla Westfall, and why it's so fondly remembered

[@insu_na]

Pretty sure the bag you get for the quest has 4 slots

[@Shiirow]

pretty sure it was 6 then upgraded to 8, usual 4 slots were given out earlier in the first two starter areas, and you could get an 8 slot from the treasure map quest chain item that dropped from mobs.

[@Bt3615]

@@Shiirow In Vanilla it was a 4 item slot. It was upgraded into from 4 to 8 slot bag during TBC with patch 2.4 aka The Fury of the Sunwell patch.

[@insu_na]

@@Bt3615 You're correct. It's in the patch notes of 2.4: "Increased the slots on Old Blanchy's Feed Pouch from 4 to 8." But yes, the treasure map quest *does* indeed give 8 slots

[@loosesingularity3121]

It was increased to 8 for casuals

[@bengixd]

​@@loosesingularity3121 "it was upgraded for casuals" - 🤓 found the boomer who has never gotten hof in retail. Casual.

[@itsrin868]

one of the reasons why I always roll human, I like their 1-30 starting quest zones. westfall and the leadup to the deadmines is so freaking good

[@waderoberts3701]

I remember wandering in here before finishing Elwynn and getting lost until I found Sentinel Hill. When innkeeper asked if I wanted to set that place as my home, I said, "I don't want to live in this shithole!"

[@soulextracter]

Awesome video once again. I am one of the players who love Westfall for all the reasons you gave. The music and general atmosphere of WoW truly holds immense nostalgia for me. I get an instantaneous rush of endorphins from hearing these scores, and the memories of junior high in the early 00s just wells up. For me, Vanilla is the best game ever made. Not because it is without faults, but because it hits all the right notes.

[@thefremddingeguy6058]

Wtf this video is amazing!! And your writing is beautiful. I would love more videos like this

[@networknomad5600]

And then Cataclysm hit, and with your first step into Westfall you’re greeted with the corpses of the Furlbrows.

[@animalm4st3r]

if you played through westfall, well infact also Redridge and Duskwood, you see and feel that its a well crafted experience, you will also notice that most of the quests have IDs in the low Triple didgets. They made those zones very early and put a lot of time and effort in them, other zones just did not get

[@Ty-ih9cu]

Fall weather made me think of westfall randomly which brought me here and your content finally convinced me to install wow classic. Have not played wow for 15+ years and I’ve been going back and forth debating about playing wow classic for the last couple years. So excited for a nostalgic journey. Thanking for making the content!

[@RealArtVandelay]

here are two places where I would aklways hang out come fall and Halloween time: Westfall and Duskwoods... the ambiance never fails❤

[@andremarc1275]

same

[@Farathriel]

Vanilla locations have a fantastic ludic narration. Blizzard back then used to play around so much with ambient, vast expanses of terrain, slow-paced rise of tension and the overall sensation of adventure intertwined with this weird sense of urgency despite no obvious and direct narrative. More than that, they also didn't care much for players' time, so they placed various quests in an unintuitive way, thus rewarding players for their exploration efforts.

[@Thickoatmeal]

Love these videos, keep up the great work my guy.

[@mcribenthusiast7010]

Looking back, I think of Westfall as one of those perfect zones. Remembering back to playing it for the first time in vanilla, I remember getting wrecked and absolutely frustrated. Westfall is like a father. It holds you accountable and makes you hate it when you're there, but its you're gone, you miss it.

[@larw0lf701]

“…dire need of feed for their steed.”

[@bamagrad99]

Great video! I loved Westfall! It's right up there with Duskwood and the Plaguelands on my own "best zones" list.

[@kravercramel]

I remember rolling a nelf warrior in 2005 and someone dragging me to stormwind doing the iconic wetlands run. i rolled a orc warrior originally and upon discovering durotar i instantly wanted something more greener. so after making it to stormwind on my nelf and some elwynn forest i stumbled upon westfall... and i thought i had escaped the dryness ! but it remains as one of my fondest zones i played in where lots of friends were made and deadmines was conquered

[@warcraft13mage]

One of the zones I never get tired of repeating

[@dragangugleta795]

great video, id like to see more of these zone retrospectives from you

[@marekdvorak1533]

A wonderful video, I very much enjoyed it. Westfall is one of my favorite zones in classic wow and I go there pretty much with all my characters once I hit level 14. I'd love to see more videos like this covering other classic zones :) Keep up the good work, mate.

[@ChairmanMeow1]

The music in WoW is just glorious. It sets the mood for the entire zone.

[@AnnieBee43]

this video was AMAZING! I would absolutely kill for more content like this. So well produced!

[@RaiderDave42069]

lol I have fond memories of taking fireballs to the back as a Defias Pillager sends me to the grave

[@juanrodriguez-ng3rb]

Same here lol.they hit like a truck in vanilla.

[@Dahcuesta]

Great video, really captures the simplicity of WOW and what it once had, as you pointed out in your "Eras Of world Of Warcraft" video, it's fundamentally the same thing, just leveling up and getting loot. But the way it was captured in this era of the game is something else, an ever expanding adventure in a mythological world.

[@TheFourtHokage100]

during my childhood as a wow player i had a problem and it was i couldnt get past lvl 27 i dont know why, but when i got to lvl 25,26 i wanted to reroll another race, class so i ended up playing westfall hundreds of times, what a good game

[@corksterx1]

Deadmines was my first dungeon ever and I was blown away - even getting into the dungeon was difficult b/c you had to fight through mobs for a while. What an amazing experience - I'll treasure it forever. Back then I played with a group of friends who have not played the game in a very long time - here I am still in Dragonflight all these years later lol.

[@kallefar5509]

It was mythical. My first time seeing Deadmines I followed a full group clearing mobs before entrance - made it aaaall the way to the portal with them, and when they ran inside I couldn't understand why they disappeared, so I thought the hid behind the pipes just inside the entrance lmao. Spent a good 20 minutes trying to locate them there. I was 11. Those were the days.

[@mrillis9259]

When I was first leveling a minor pvp battle began in west fall. And a max level showed up to break it up. Was insane. Dude had a mount.

[@Cynidecia]

This was literally peak WoW. Nothing came close outside of Roleplaying from this game.

[@FillerAccount818]

Great video! I love intresting and insightful videos on the more soulful parts of WoW I shall watch your channel with great interests from here on! Keep up the good work and editing!

[@MichZilla90]

Big same

[@bviszokai]

Thank you for this beautiful video! Came from recommended, watched till the end, subbed. I would watch any Vanilla or TBC zone in this style.

[@aurun1015]

Love these videos dude, thank you. More please 🙏

[@joshtheryuk]

Personally i love every single Vanilla zone. Don't think there's any bad zone in vanilla honestly. My favorite zones tho are Thousand Needles and Winterspring. Cataclysm ruining Thousand Needles was a crime against humanity.

[@Zack_Wester]

Desolace I would say is pretty bad, there was no life anywhere in that zone, the quest was for the most part a pain and the leveling there was slow as heck whit many basic kill quest having you run across the map kill 10 targets then run back whit nothing to look at or a road to follow for a safer journey. Never leveled in The Barrens so can´t speak for that. Stranglethorn Vale the biggest problem was that for alliance player there was no Flight point (except in dusk wood or in Booty bay meaning horde had a somewhat easier time getting around for many of the quest especially for the Boty bay quests). there was also one or two other zones I was not a big fan of dont remmber what zones thought.

[@joshtheryuk]

@@Zack_Wester I actually enjoy the fact that some zones are... desolate. It makes the world feel less like a theme park and more... real. Weird huh? Azshara especially has got an amazing atmosphere. It truly feels like you're traversing a land forgotten by everyone. And makes the tragedy of the Night Elves much more poignant. Desolace is also cool the feeling you get when you reach Shadowprey Village, the only place that feels like it has any life. And at least Desolace has Maraudon. Holy s... that dungeon is so good.

[@Zack_Wester]

@@joshtheryuk i was a Alliance player I heard that for hords it was a lot better.

[@Xylarxcode]

@@Zack_Wester Desolace doesn't have a ton of things to do, but if you started there when you were supposed to (level 30-31) and you knew where to pick some of the additional quests, you could milk that zone for a level or 2, possibly even 3 and then occasionally come back there for the quests that were a bit beyond your reach every once in a while after that. Not amazing, but if you had skinning as a profession, there's a lot of beasts roaming around there and because it's so desolate, your chances of running into competition for the mobs you need to do your quests is minimal, as are your chances of getting ganked if you were on a pvp server. I preferred doing my level 30 start up quests there so that when I strode into STV after, I had a few extra levels on me to help deal with the heavy competition/ganks you're much more likely to find there. It won't protect you against level 60 griefers, but if you're doing quests or of your own level, you'll be slightly ahead of them if you took some time to do your Desolace quests first. There were upsides to going there. If you were a herbalist, I wouldn't have recommended it, though. Not a lot of good things to pick there. STV or Arathi highlands would be better places to go for the flower pickers.

[@ethanwilliams1880]

@@Zack_Wester As an alliance player who went to play horde for the zones and experience, I can confirm that is 100% BS. Horde zones are pretty lame. I was especially disappointed with the undead zones I had heard so many good things about. Grass was not greener, maybe in Cata idk. Edit: Not to mention getting in and out of the undercity was a pain in the ass until you had a flight point.

[@saulgoodguy1840]

Idk how ur channel isnt huge yo. Every one of ur vids is a banger

[@Shmandalf]

Defias kicking your ass is some PTSD every classic human player has.

[@a_o2966]

I remember pulling those Mages and not knowing about LoS 😂 painful times

[@Xylarxcode]

That human male 'Ha' aggro sound is seared into our brains in the same place where the murloc gurgling cries are.

[@ViciousLamp]

Its thematically simple and fitting for a young kingdom which is what sells it to me. Its not some crazy new zone with demons invading or some other wordly planet.

[@Coliteral]

Great vid. Your narrative speaking and flow from story points where great to listen too. Only nit pick I have is the Blanchy quest line bag is only a 4 slotter so the treasure map quest line is the only early 8 slot bag available for free in the zone.

[@thrallin771]

DEADMINES!!! that was my first dungeon ever, so i'll always have a soft spot for westfall.

[@erwinmulder1338]

While you didn't have to go to Duskwood for the Defias quest line, there is the 'Dry Times' quest that you undoubtedly picked up while doing the Defias quests in the Redridge inn to collect a drinks from all these areas.

[@Chicken-x6q6d]

My first ever character was a human mage so I remember that zone well, I had my first experience meeting horde there as there was constant world pvp around sentinel hill on my realm back then, something which continued in an albeit diminished form all the way into wrath. It has always been a favorite zone of mine which I've always quested through with other races as well. Fun fact, the first time I ever ran deadmines I was so taken with it that I forgot to loot Vancleefs head at the end and had to get a second group to complete the quest chain! I can see why you've had that Mandella Effect moment, you're thinking of the quest chain from Magistrate Solomon in lakeshire which sends you to both stormwind, westfall and duskwood, that chain happens not long after finishing with westfall so it is easy to think of the two as one and the same. Plus I always went through duskwood on the first quest from Stoutmantle as I could not be bothered with the safe route through elwynn.

[@hata6290]

what an underrated video. well done

[@jofvenom]

incredibly well made video. westfall is one of my favorite zones of all times.

[@unhingedcrouton]

You forgot the dude in the hills that needs you to bring him hops

[@officialWensonMusic]

I can see this becoming your most viewed video yet, and I’m rooting for it 🤞🏻 Would love to one day listen to your detailed explanation about the nostalgia of the Barrens too!

[@Shaono]

Great video. Nostalgia is so potent, almost makes you shed a tear

[@slapshot0417]

I remember back in vanilla only having 2 hours of pc time after or before school, glad I did because duskwood and west fall are my 2 favorite leveling zones before I got ganked by rouges all day in STV I was also 8 when vanilla was current

[@Kottery]

Loved this, hope you do more like it. Perhaps follow the natural zone progression for the various races. Vanilla WoW's lore has always been my favorite and I love hearing/reading about it. The addition of the gameplay aspect of the zones and its occupants adds a nice fresh spice to it that I personally haven't come across. Also for a fun fact, the Defias Pillagers hit so hard due to having a Fireball spell that's one rank higher than they should have or something along those lines. Essentially a level 18 player Mage's spell on a level 14/15 NPC. And apparently back in vanilla it was found the Defias Pillager was the second deadliest enemy in the game, second only to a fucking raid boss.

[@tamteetleytoo4532]

I could listen to you say "Furlbrow" forever, I love the way you pronounce it ^^

[@ghoraxe9000]

It was the best for leveling... Horde often all got funneled into the barrens ... But many also took refuge in silverpine / sepulcher.. That's why Hillsbrad was so contested... It was an amazing quest spot for both factions

[@Chicken-x6q6d]

Indeed, I loved Silverpine on my Hordie even though I never rolled one until just after TBC came out.

[@ghoraxe9000]

@@Chicken-x6q6d I was Undead Rogue in vanilla.. was in a guild of all rogues .. about 10 of us.. Pvp server Cromaggus ...So much fun.... Switched to Orc warrior soon later... Still Warrior till this day

[@Chicken-x6q6d]

@@ghoraxe9000 The first horde main I levelled to 70 was a warlock, blood elf, I figured mana tap and life tap combined would be a winning combination, though I never did much of the belf starting area and headed straight for the glades, hence me ending up in silverpine. I later transfered my alliance rogue to horde and never went back. Warrior is an ace class and another one I first started with in bc though mine was draenei, I've since made another warrior on a WotLK classic server so I could experience levelling one again, except this time it is a dwarf with that racial to remove infuriating diseases and such, it's amazing how powerful arms is at low levels in wrath, you can basically one shot most mobs with a decent weapon enchanted with crusader and that glyph for the extra crit on victory rush. I randomly got that dragonslayer buff on me at level 15 so I spent all two hours of it running around near the deadmines portal actually one shotting absolutely everything, I gained 5 levels doing that before the buff ran out, was epic fun.

[@peterkroger7112]

A yes, Westfall. WoW was the first MMORPG I ever played back in 2006. And it was at night during the killing Defias for their hankies when it happened. I was wispert for the first time by another player. I was so exited because I had never played an online game before. And what did this stranger want to tell me? "Hi dude. Don't you think you should put in your talent points? Why don't you use heroic strike? Cloth is the wrong armor type for a warrior.".....

[@tajblessner5659]

Really great video. Please make this a series

[@heatrayzvideo3007]

Silverpine forest is my nostalgic place. That sweeping music works so well.

[@ilikemetroid]

You should make more videos about other fondly remembered zones

[@Travybear1989]

Yeah, like Desolace. Amazing zone with great questlines.

[@Srpicklez]

I remember feeling so bad ass on my warrior with that hammer from Smite and even more bad ass dual wielding van cleef's sword with full defias on my rogue. I loved Westfall so much that I missed out on end game Vanilla because I loved leveling so many characters there. You should do a video about the journey of the Nightelf noobs like myself who wanted to make it to Goldshire to level. I had someone nice enough to try and escort me and party full of other noobs, we died so many times, especially in the wetlands, but in the end we made it and that's now one of my core memories from early WoW.

[@Forcy1989]

Here before the Baldmangold reacts

[@Tamamo-no-Bae]

It is the type of video he would react to, yeah. xD

[@dominikfittschen2955]

If i remember correctly than Captain Graysons Quests can be done by horde players too. But as old horde player i has to say that there is nothing better than 4 Zevra hoofs...

[@jansvajka7487]

They have 4 legs, so killing one should be enough, right? RIGHT?!

[@brnmcc01]

Yes I did that quest on my Undead mage way back in the day.

[@illya0000]

i love your writing man keep it up

[@boskee]

it was the atmosphere - the setting, graphics, music

[@hachi9404]

ah westfall, my favorite leveling zone :)

[@Eppilicious]

Unless you're specifically talking about WotLK Westfall then it's wrong that you get an 8 slot bag from Poor Ol Blanchy quest. It's a 4 slot bag.

[@Jp808]

Fabulous work

[@plankton832]

Such a nice video good job!!

[@ZeroG_Bandit]

Westfall is the first "hard" area, where even without mistakes you can legitimately die. Hardcore is proving this since defias pillager and defias trapper are two of the top 5 deadliest mobs. People bonded over this and this is where people grouped more for quests/lvling.

[@ethanwilliams1880]

The zone music is also some of my favorite in the game, it's amazing.

[@spagmon]

wonderful video

[@storm4life]

Love your vids man

[@j.d.5626]

My favourite area of the game where most of my Ch retire. I love it cause of the music and cause it looks like the area of Spain (Castille) where I grew up so much.

[@DJcrossPT]

Subbed ❤ hoping for more like these with different zones

[@mkmmkm9471]

I still love Westfall. I level there in retail, but Classic is so nostalgic. It is arguably my favourite zone.

[@blueskiesflyer]

The main difficulty of Westfall is bag management with the gulash and other plethora of gathering quests lol

[@kasegiyabu5030]

Westfall is where we went to beat up Sentinel Hill, hoping to taunt the allies to come out and fight. It often worked and slaughter reigned over the zone. _For the Horde!_

[@dommguard]

Maaan, hearing elwyn and westfall's music teared me up...

[@Sanguivore]

+1 for the “bruh think he david attenborough 😂😂😂” bit

[@janodefenua4603]

Getting Livers from thoose boars was a pain in the ass.

[@timhaugen6410]

The deep dive for my Druid's Aquatic Form

[@wave641]

in dire need of feed for their steed. we have found the scottish shakespeare

[@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo]

Pay your craftsmen.

[@lawrence7632]

YungPitLord love that name

[@Shaabhekh]

Always liked Westfall, its a shame they kinda messed it up with Cataclysm

[@accessthemainframe4475]

And Darkshore. And Loch Modan.

[@ethanwilliams1880]

@@accessthemainframe4475 And Redridge. And Duskwood. And...pretty much every zone it touched. I liked Cata gameplay, but it was the moment Blizzard started shitting on the lore and never looked back.

[@yawanoc]

Gotta be honest, the only bad thing about this video is that you don't have a whole series of these already!

[@nameofthegame9664]

Don’t ask me why but I always played nelf in vanilla but my favorite zone was Westfall, so every alt I made was leveled to 10 then I made the horrible Ironforge run dying 200 times in the Wetlands.

[@dishware2336]

wow great video thanks

[@Jordan-ws5vn]

Really nice video!

[@riskymaulana9046]

one of many scary place for hardcore player

[@Jkaninteangemittnamn]

Actually in vanilla the only 1 level higher mobs in westfall compared to Elewyn were much harder to kill ,, since not obl were they higher they intrudused a fear of now you die , they not only like the Harvesters had restiances - they were like 2 levels higher , the coyotes ,birds - If the presious zone were hard this suddenly became harder with same as your level -This has now been changed by Blizzard and are no so much the case - they feel like only 1 level higer instead of 2 if they are 1 level higher

[@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz]

i remember it for the colors, open field and the rain.

[@usermarongoany5616]

Vanilla Tirisfall Glades, and why its so fondly remembered: -💀🐻

[@eliashjelm8685]

Great video!

[@draphking]

Only issue with the zone, like a lot of Vanilla zones was the level spacing. They clearly intended for you to go from Elwynn to Westfall, assuming you're level 10 but once you get past the Saldean farm quests you start running into quests/mobs that have massive level jumps. Min level of Deadmines should be 18 but if you're lucky you're 15 by the time you're done with everything

[@ykonratev]

There is no zone flow in classic you're expected to go to lock Modan or wherever else and keep going back and forth

[@Yungshamgod]

@@ykonratev as someone who bounced between the two very recently, it wasn’t THAT bad.

[@mcfarvo]

Zone clusters and some hopping around along the occasional long distance trek or intercontinental quest or quest chain adds a lot of flavor to the world

[@SvendleBerries]

By the time you're 15 you should have at least one quest to head over to Redridge, which was 15-27 give or take. Vanilla liked having everyone zone jump, which I kinda like.

[@Gabe4D]

I always went to Darkshore until level 14-15 then came to westfall and did a bunch of quests. Then left for Red ridge and then came back to westfall and then back to Red ridge

[@Spaceglidah]

Banger

[@DS-MartianManhunter]

Great video

[@stethemortal6667]

Vanilla Westfall was where boys and girls became Men and Women!

[@Pomodorosan]

cute video, nice quality, good job

[@lord_razur]

Only a little over 1k for this?! Criminal!

[@Spaceglidah]

Also my lvl 18 paladin died here rip

[@edhahaz]

Yep that's how I remember it

[@EstevanValladares]

As a horde player for the most part, I barely ever heard about Westfall through TBC even. Only knew it was "a thing" in Wrath.

[@anders.2259]

In these days (2005-2008) most realms was packed with players, today you hardly see 15-20 people in the major city’s of Stormwind or Orgrimmar. The rest of the city’s is ghost towns. The city’s with some people is the ones in the latest expansion. WoW started to die with the burning crusade and wrath of the lich king when the players got scattered all over the world but we didn’t understand it then as we had our huge guilds and WoW friends from all over Europe. And then the lore and reruns of old content with new bad guys and locations it got more and more confusing and then cataclysm hit and later on mists of pandaria. Here the player count was dropping rapidly!.

[@Secretsofsociety]

The Barrens as well

[@strat6956]

those harvest watchers dont play

[@JackGhetto]

the werold of warcraft

[@benlehmann4080]

Whole Lotta them animals were missing critical anatomy....

[@ShadesApeDJansu]

【Light Head Finns】Oh another youtuber with Skull & Crossbones, hail those who raise the Jolly Roger (The Pirate Flag)

[@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286]

Vanilla hillsbrad foothills and why its remebers