Varna and Caste System: Varna is Merit Based, not Birth Based | Subhash Kak and Sanjay Dixit

[@k420-p4x]

iam a pure sanatani from birth,a kshatriya by my qualities and profession as per my aim (army officer) but an unfortunate so called sc named at documents ,not by my religion named by some aliens whether mughals or britishers to divide and abate the hindu society...i respect manusmriti which given the phenominal concept of varna sytem which was never abt one's birth in one's house..it was abt one's profession and one's qualities or gunas

[@viplavsingh009]

You are a Sanatani indeed my friend 🙏🏻

[@avartan5843]

Yes brother

[@himmatjatt2262]

Don't fall in the trap of words by pundits... pundits think they are Brahman..but they are not... Brahman is who have the knowledge of this brahmand(universe)...they even spoil manu samariti..by addition of their own..

[@paharipant2]

@@himmatjatt2262 only trust paramparik brahmin interpretation as that is only true.

[@vrishikantak12]

Karunesh hans U r hindu U r good human being U r born in Bharat U r my brother period. Simple... I dont care whether u r SC brahmin kula jati prajati... U r providing safety to us. U r my rakshak u r my brother

[@bahujanvicharmanch]

जब उसी जगह से हर आदमी निकलता है तो चार वर्ण क्यों। लानत है हिन्दू धर्म पे।

[@dineshsharma6125]

Tumm bhi toh vahi karr rahe ho samaj Todd rahe ho Christian se paise le k

[@Devine_wave]

​@@dineshsharma6125 jaise tum thoda hai aur discriminate kiya hai

[@dinhahlawat7302]

sir, jatiwad agar 1900 main aya angrezo ke karan to sant Ravidas ka pura jivan kyu bita sudro ko brabari ka darza dilane ke liye...

[@TheGreedyGamer]

The caste system came in late 19th CE AD, But in society a minuscule or general disparity over issues were always been part of every community society nation or region, Some times personal or individual basis, Sometimes community or religious basis, But in reality it has no conjuncture and relation with the true face of social customs laws and society in mass, Example today people in Bhaarat are Vegan for whom the use of animal milk is completely wrong and evil they have there own dynamics of evaluating things some are right and some are wrong but we in way say that our nation or our society represent veganism, We can not impose or accuse a society a community of something until its in there general social or national laws and it is practiced in masses in society, Going with this and looking at history what happened to us many things historically are altered and presented to us in much degraded and misleading form and history & education has became a weapon of propagating narrative to complete objectives, That is general background truth which i explained and in the case of Sant Ravidas that is what happened, And i beg you to read Sant Ravidas’s complete work to understand his consciousness in a whole instead of hoping truth and completeness from neo fake liberals communists and lefties, Sant Ravidas was born in shudra Jaat, He sought differences in society and disparity between communities, He then sought spirituality he read Hindu Vaidik scriptures and awakened the true consciousness through it which is called realisation, He became renowned for his Bhakti and was an great personality during Bhakti period So the history starts with Chamar vansh, Do you know Chamar vansh used to be a warrior kshatriya community who had an empire over Bhaarat?? You don’t because lefties letting you know this breaks there agenda, So chamar vansh historically used to be an Kshatriya community later as time passed most of chamar vansh due to there Karma(act) and situation has became shudra community which has occurred with many communities due to merit based varna system, Later it was time of Islamic invasions of Bhaarat started in late 7th century AD kicked out pf Bhaarat for 500 upcoming years started again regularly from 10th century AD, So when islamic intruders captivated land of Bhaarat and Delhi sultanate came into existence sort of till 11th century as we know of muslims for there great religion and thought process and they exalted hell on Bhaarat and Bhaartiya torture, murder, enslavement, s*x trade, R@pe, Conversion and extortion was there way forward, With that they bought bin vegetarianism in Bhaarat especially for masses and in open society for the first time in Bhaarat’s history, Animal killing, Cow slaughtering was imposed for meat eating and leather work, But no Hindu Sikh Jain Bauddh was ready to do such sin at all, For which these hate mongers gone totally brutal not objectively but also in ideological interests they did Saam Daam Dand Bhed in which this chamar community in that early 12th century came out as first to agree on terms of the invaders to work on animal slaughtering and leather work which was prohibited for so long in Bhaarat due to its negative impact scientifically psychologically culturally and socially, Which is why many communities be it Brahmhan Kshatriya Vaishya or even Shudra boycotted Chamaar Jaati and had negative opinions about them even though state of Hindus doesn’t subscribe to it lawfully, Henceforth Sant Ravidaas happened to born fortunately in that Jaati saw this negativity and division due to invaders it was not caste discrimination or oppression on Chamaar Jaati but social boycott of them just like many Hindus boycott China and muslims bit we are not casteist towards either of them, In similar way a boycott a division created due to invaders, Ravidaas Ji was not happy with it and no one could be, After he became Saint and renowned as Sant Ravidas due to his works in poetry and rest then he taught Hindu Darshan( philosophy ) to the society about importance unity and oneness and that nobody in core or truly is different from each other spiritually then we shouldn’t have hate for each other as a thing because we all are one, So social issues may exist mentally amongst humans we should not hate each other generations after generations, He actually tried to create unity and remove the generational hate, For him one should not hate each other as from core while you may have legitimate issues and differences in acts and acceptance, Chamaar did wrong that is fact but they also did out of compulsion and torture that invaders had exalted upon with, So one should work to remove differences that doesn’t means acceptance of wrong but it also should not go far enough to become hate, Which is both the entities chamaar and other communities should have accepted it which many if did and many did not, Overall it was an social difference issue created by invaders nutrition by pain society facing from invaders and later eroded by an Hindu Saint of Bhakti movement through knowledge of Hindu Darshan, Till that period no caste system or caste discrimination thing was there, Caste was not an part of any discussion at all like later when it actually became issue after 1850s where britishers recognised hurdle and enemy in there conversion and colonialism of Bhaarat which was unity between Hindus leadership of Brahmhans and faith of community and individual towards Hindu Dharma, After which britishers exploited history culture customs economical conditions to create hate & divisions and shaped Bhaarat towards caste system, Which they succeeded much after 1950s before that masses of Bhaarat didnt buy to there imposed crap.

[@MkpSingh21]

Grassroots level Information of indian soul and spirit..... Churned out of profound, intense and scholarly experience of wise men, rarely available..... though fraction of it is preset agenda...

[@gajahmada9539]

Sikhs are hindus are real blood brothers don’t support abhramic cults

[@alpeshmittal3779]

Well vedas rigveda gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal and nishadha which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination, mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means) , bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47)....with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated. So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed.

[@ramabapat]

Most of the Saints, Rishis and other enlightened beings revered by Brahmins are non-Brahmins.

[@mansoorahmad6756]

Amazing conversation. Hinduism is a very profound religion ☯️

[@TheGreedyGamer]

Dharma not religion even its not a Dharma its an Panth a Dhaarmik panth, Dharma is universal and one for everyone and Dharma is Sanaatan, Hindu panth and its knowledge its customs are said to be closest to the Sanaatan Dharma the true Dharma. Religion is completely different concept.

[@indicrenaissance8126]

Exactly.. Sikh community mai Majhabi dalit sikhs ko jatt apne villages ke gurudwaras mai entry ni karne dete.. naa hi sikh communities apas mai shadi karti hain..jabki Sikhism mai caste ka mention nhi hai..it proves ye religion ka nahi society ka issue hai

[@alpeshmittal3779]

Caste is invention of Hinduism or sanatan dharma. When people converted to other religions from Hindu eg Sikh, Christianity and Islam their social status didn't change and society didn't forget their caste. That's why you see caste in other religions in india. It's not the case for Muslims and Christians outside india. Main difference between class which you find in almost every feudal society and caste in India is 1. Caste was determined by birth with no social mobility 2. Endogamy no intercaste marriages especially with lower caste or out caste (both are different). 3. No where in the world it was sanctioned by religion like we did. Last anybody who is blaming Muslims or British for caste discrimination is purposefully lying.

[@arbhtyagi5935]

Yes exactly त्वष्टा और शुक्राचार्य भाई-भाई थे एक गुरु हुये दूसरे शिल्पकार। और दोनो ही भृगु की संतान थे।

[@snatanprivar4059]

जाति वाद खतम करो हर हर महादेव 🙏💪🏹⚔️🔱🚩

[@chandermohan1134]

Bhai, yeh saara constitutional arrangement hi jati/race, tribe, sect, Dera, Hindu- muslim, Martial races theory, peasant tribes aur land ownership theory parr adhaarit hai, so jatiwad khattam kaise ho sakta hai, yeh aap bataa dau tau behtarr hoga.

[@Xeno98765]

वर्ण शब्द "वृञ" धातु से बनता है जिसका मतलब है चयन या वरण करना है । महर्षि मनु कहते हैं- =>शूद्रो ब्राह्मणतामेति ब्राह्मणश्चैति शूद्रताम। क्षत्रियाज्जातमेवं तु विद्याद्वैश्यात्तथैव च। - (मनुस्मृति-10/65) अर्थात- कर्म के अनुसार ब्राह्मण शूद्रता को प्राप्त हो जाता है और शूद्र ब्राह्मणत्व को। इसी प्रकार क्षत्रिय और वैश्य से उत्पन्न संतान भी अन्य वर्णों को प्राप्त हो जाया करती हैं। =>शुचिरुत्कृष्टशुश्रूषूर्मृदुवागनहंकृत: । ब्राह्मणद्याश्रयो नित्यमुत्कृष्टां जातिमश्नुते - (मनुस्मृति- 9/335) अर्थात - शुद्ध-पवित्र, अपने से उत्कृष्ट वर्ण वालों की सेवा करने वाला, मधुरभाषी, अहंकार से रहित, सदा ब्राह्मण आदि तीनों वर्णों की सेवा में संलग्न शूद्र भी उत्तम ब्रह्मजन्म के अतंर्गत दूसरे वर्ण को प्राप्त कर लेता है । * ब्रह्मजन्म से अभिप्राय शिक्षित होने से है। शिक्षित होने को दूसरा जन्म भी कहा गया है । प्राचीन इतिहास में वर्ण परिवर्तन के उदाहरण :-- (1) ऐतरेय ऋषि दास अथवा अपराधी के पुत्र थे । परन्तु उच्च कोटि के ब्राह्मण बने और उन्होंने ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण और ऐतरेय उपनिषद की रचना की । ऋग्वेद को समझने के लिए ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण अतिशय आवश्यक माना जाता है । (2) ऐलूष ऋषि दासी पुत्र थे । जुआरी और हीन चरित्र भी थे । परन्तु बाद में उन्होंने अध्ययन किया और ऋग्वेद पर अनुसन्धान करके अनेक अविष्कार किये । ऋषियों ने उन्हें आमंत्रित कर के आचार्य पद पर आसीन किया । (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण २.१९) (3) सत्यकाम जाबाल गणिका (वेश्या) के पुत्र थे परन्तु वे ब्राह्मणत्व को प्राप्त हुए। (4) राजा दक्ष के पुत्र पृषध शूद्र हो गए थे, प्रायश्चित स्वरुप तपस्या करके उन्होंने मोक्ष प्राप्त किया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.१.१४) अगर उत्तर रामायण की मिलावटी कथा के अनुसार शूद्रों के लिए तपस्या करना मना होता तो पृषध ये कैसे कर पाए? (5) राजा नेदिष्ट के पुत्र नाभाग वैश्य हुए । पुनः इनके कई पुत्रों ने क्षत्रिय वर्ण अपनाया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.१.१३) (6) धृष्ट नाभाग के पुत्र थे परन्तु ब्राह्मण हुए और उनके पुत्र ने क्षत्रिय वर्ण अपनाया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.२.२) (7) आगे उन्हींके वंश में पुनः कुछ ब्राह्मण हुए । (विष्णु पुराण ४.२.२) (9) भागवत के अनुसार राजपुत्र अग्निवेश्य ब्राह्मण हुए । (10) विष्णुपुराण और भागवत के अनुसार रथोतर क्षत्रिय से ब्राह्मण बने । (11) हारित क्षत्रियपुत्र से ब्राह्मण हुए । (विष्णु पुराण ४.३.५) (12) क्षत्रियकुल में जन्में शौनक ने ब्राह्मणत्व प्राप्त किया । (विष्णु पुराण४.८.१) (14) मातंग चांडालपुत्र से ब्राह्मण बने ।(महाभारत, अनु0 3.19) (15) ऋषि पुलस्त्य का पौत्र रावण अपने कर्मों से राक्षस बना । (16) राजा रघु का पुत्र प्रवृद्ध राक्षस हुआ । (17) त्रिशंकु राजा होते हुए भी कर्मों से चांडाल बन गए थे । (18) विश्वामित्र के पुत्रों ने शूद्र वर्ण अपनाया । विश्वामित्र स्वयं क्षत्रिय थे परन्तु बाद उन्होंने ब्राह्मणत्व को प्राप्त किया । (19) विदुर दासी पुत्र थे । तथापि वे ब्राह्मण हुए और उन्होंने हस्तिनापुर साम्राज्य का मंत्री पद सुशोभित किया ।(महाभारत, आदिपर्व100 -101, 135-137) (20) वत्स शूद्र कुल में उत्पन्न होकर भी ऋषि बने । (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण २.१९) (21) कान्यकुज के राजा विश्वरथ राज्य को त्याग कर क्षत्रिय से ब्राह्मण बने और फिर ब्रह्मर्षि का पद प्राप्त किया और ब्रह्मर्षि विश्वामित्र के नाम से प्रसिद्ध हुए। उनके अनेक पुत्रों में से कुछ क्षत्रिय ही रहे तो कुछ ब्राह्मण बन गये, जो आज कौशिक ब्राह्मण कहाते हैं। (वाल्मीकि रामायण, बालकाण्ड 51-56 अध्याय) (22) चक्रवर्ती क्षत्रिय राजा मनु वैवस्वत का नाभानेदिष्ट नामक पुत्र ब्राह्मण बना (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण 5.14) (23) दीर्घतमा नामक ऋषि के कई पुत्र थे, उनमें से कुछ ब्राह्मण बने तो कुछ क्षत्रिय। उनके वंशजों को ‘वालेय ब्राह्मण’ और ‘वालेय क्षत्रिय’ कहा जाता है। (विष्णुपुराण 4.18 ; भागवत पुराण 9.20) (24) पांचाल-राजा भर्याश्व का एक पुत्र मुद्गल राजा था, जो क्षत्रिय था। बाद में यह और इसके वंशज ब्राह्मण बन गये। इसके वंशज ब्राह्मण आज भी ‘मौद्गल ब्राह्मण’ कहलाते हैं (भागवतपुराण-9.21; वायु पुराण 99.198) (25) वाल्मीकि निन कुल में उत्पन्न हुए, किन्तु वे ब्रह्मर्षि और महाकवि बने। (स्कंद पुराण, वै0 21) (26) सत्यकाम जाबाल अज्ञात कुल का था। वह अपनी सत्यवादिता एवं प्रखर बुद्धि के कारण महान् और प्रसिद्ध ऋषि बना। ( पंचविश ब्राह्मण 8.6.1)

[@bpp827]

@@chandermohan1134 bandharan ki wajah se.. LIPAPOTI wale Dharm granth se..ok.. bandharan ne un nichali cast ko saman adhikar diya hai..jo hamare dharm granth dete the..liken kuch hamarm khoro ne use..cast system tabdil kar diya ...aaj wahi kaam bandharan kar raha hai..

[@bpp827]

@@chandermohan1134 tum bhi ek dalit LADKI se shadi kar do tab pata chalega jati pratha kya hai..😂😂😂

[@PAL-jb2zv]

@@chandermohan1134 jati khatam karne ko bola ha darm nhi jati kya ha muslim ek darm ha hum hindu ma jati katam karne ko bol rahi ha jise se hindu darm ki ekta hoge aur darm bhi bade ga

[@VijayShankarMishra-n6x]

हर हर महादेव। आज नौकरी में कितने वर्ग बना है। क्या समान अधिकार वाले अधिकारी का व्यवहार एक जैसे होता है। ये विचार का विषय‌ है। जयहिंद।

[@neelawadke7020]

कोरोनाकाले सर्वेपी अछूत अभवन।इवम् स्थिते वयम किम करणीयम्?

[@Sahilkumar-dr4en]

Inka pura janam issi mein laga hua ki kaise varna vayavastha ko bachaya jaaye.

[@rajnarer]

To all the self pompous people here and brahmin presenter only one question no country was ruled by foreign power as much as they did India even Chinese for Japanese colonial rule call it century of shame but Indian welcomed foreign rule you know why because 70% lower caste were treated so bad if ruler is Hindu or any invader didnt make difference to thier life

[@rudramath5949]

About Janeyu Dhahran it is explicitly mentioned in Baudayana Grihyasutras any Jati or Varna Sanatani can wear Janeyu.

[@ramnirmohi9027]

which shloka ? कुछ भी बोल देने से कैसे होगा ?

[@vijnanabandhu2167]

@@ramnirmohi9027 _prabhutvādārtvijyaṁ sarva-varṇānāṁ syāt_ 'Because they possess the ability to do so, all varṇas are entitled to officiate as priests.' Mīmāṁsā Sūtras (12.4.35)

[@AnandRajappan]

@@vijnanabandhu2167 this is prova Paksha. Don't misleading. Contextual information is very important in Sanathan Dharma

[@DattaMusics]

@@AnandRajappan context was given far before , and many pujaris are not allowed to wear janeu like nath yogis , Himalayan Siddha and Acharya abhinava Gupta did not wear janeu being a kashmiri pandit !!....

[@traq4050]

@@AnandRajappan Lol, I have seen the views of uttar paksha in commentary of Mimamsa Sutras, He gave such lame logic, Founder of Mimamsa Darshana himself aclaimed the right

[@a.s205]

द्रोपति के स्वयंवर में कर्ण को सूत पुत्र होने के करना नही चुना। क्या कर्ण ज्ञान प्राप्त करके धनुर्धर नही बना था। इस पर प्रकाश डाले। क्या ये जातिवाद नही था। जब भगवान कृष्ण भी us सभा में थे।

[@alpeshmittal3779]

Well vedas rigveda gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal and nishadha which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination, mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means) , bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47)....with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated. So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed.

[@Devine_wave]

आप सही हैं। ये लोग सच्चाई को नकार रहे हैं। ये लोग अंधभक्त हैं जो झूठ के साथ इतिहास को ढंकने की कोशिश कर रहे हैं। वे निचली जाति के दर्द को नहीं जानते हैं।

[@a.s205]

@@Devine_wave sahi hai

[@studymanch4144]

Have you seen anyone who is allowed to change his Varna?? Even Caste?

[@Adonis626]

Scythians are a prominent example. And then Kshatriya son of Maharaj Vichitravirya later became a sage in life. There are thousands of more examples brother you'll find them if you only make efforts :)

[@dineshsharma6125]

abb toh vaise hi nahi karr sakte, agar vaisa hone laga sabb General SC ka certificate le k ghumenge.

[@noxious_maddy]

U have asked a wrong question! U should have asked "Have u ever saw or heard a Shudra becoming a Kshtriya or Brahmin" Bcoz no one become in last 1800-2000 years

[@chanakya2705]

Yes, that's true that in ancient India, Varna was achieved and not ascribed. But, is that the reality today? Today, caste is ascribed but achieved. The level of superiority among the upper caste people (obviously not all, but a majority of them) may vary from region to region, but is everywhere present. When upper caste people talk about equality, with the feeling of superiority at the back of their mind, it is as laughable as when lower caste people talk about equality but clinging on to reservations (not talking of the really deserving ones, but of the ones with good status and financial condition in society). This hatred towards each other may be subtle or very explicit, but it is there, and to stop it, making Bharat a purely market economy is one of the many ways, but the most prominent one. This hatred is mainly because for the greed of government jobs, but when government jobs become very very rare, then this upper caste, lower caste business will vanish within a few generations. Don't carry an upper caste superiority, or lower caste victim card (again, not talking of the really deserving ones), become an asset to the nation. Jai Hind, Jai Bharat Mata ki!!

[@sarozkumar3939]

भारत के चारों मठ रूढ़ीवादी है। 😢

[@kenishaakrishna9231]

So true in southern India there is Brahmin n shudra n other sc st how is that only shetty are vaishyas but not any others how gowdas naidu reddy nair are all shudras these are rajputs/ Kshatriyas not given the name but made shudras???

[@S1ddhartha1978]

What a beautiful discussion! Exactly what I needed today. Thank you so much Jaipur Dialogues!

[@rameshmaddala9982]

It will be better if we bring all this knowledge into ground level action. Most important is how this is reflected in the day-to-day actions. If that does not happen, discussions like this are useless.

[@yagyabhushansharma1008]

Varna vyavastha is different from Jatie vyavastha. The origen of cast originate by the work or proffession which the person occupied.

[@chandermohan1134]

Yes, Varana, Caste, Jati/Race and tribe all are different. So far as Varna, it was totally rejected by the Constitutional arrangement since its very beginning. So it is irrelevant now. But it is the foreign word Caste which has been most misused by the colonialists and their Macaulay children. They have messed up it with Jati/Race wherever it suited them. But at other places, they used the correct word Race as in the Theory of Martial Races which is still in force. The point is that they always confused the foreign and Non-Indian word Caste with Jati/Race with ulterior motives to divide the people on various grounds.

[@IndianPeoplesCongres]

Sri Aurobindo is a great authority on Yoga in the contemporary world and he wrote many books from a level of consciousness, which is above and beyond mind - including on Gita. He said that "Psychic Being" - a living spark of God (Purusha) - lives within everybody, deep within heart and behind mind and one can by "Sadhna" become aware of its presence, and even identify oneself with IT to make it the master of our work in this life. Now about "Varna" or castes: This Psychic Being lives hidden and behind but it constantly "tries" to have its way (something like "voice of our conscience") in our life on our acts and conduct, which "work" is interfered with and censured by our mind and vital cravings and physical demands (which are lower planes of our consciousness). Now, there comes in our life a balancing of "this voice of our God (Psychic Being) and our interfering mind", which becomes our "propensity", that is, our VARNA or caste. One who always listens to this VOICE in one's acts is a Brahmin and the best of human being - all Rishis and Yogis are Brahmins because they are guided by this VOICE. And, there is gradation in one's life to the lower side (Kshtriya, Vaishy and Shudra) comensurate with the "amount of command" that one's this VOICE exerts on his acts. This interpretation of VARNA by Sri Aurobindo fully accords with Gita, where it says that VARNAS are according to one's conduct. Varna or caste by birth is a distortion, which is patently motivated by self-interests of the so-called "upper castes". Incidently just see the Manusmirti - it says a Brahmin has to live by begging only, he cannot own property, he has to see God in every creature, he has no fear of death etc.

[@rashtrabhakt3002]

पहले बडे वैज्ञानिक तरीके से बीमार, नव प्रसूता ,नव जात शिशु की देखभाल होती थी ।पहले शौचालय करने बाहर मैदान मे जाते थे तो छुआछूत नही था ।फिर ड्रेनेज सिस्टम की शुरुआत हुई ।जो इस कार्य को करते थे या बहुत लोगों के सम्पर्क में आने का कार्य करते थे उनकी साफ सफाई तक हम उनसे दूर रहते थे ।आज भी जब हम अपने घर का शौचालय साफ करते है या बाहर से आते है तो पहले स्नान करते है फिर कुछ छूते है । ये था तो बडा वैज्ञानिक पर बाद में इस तरह के व्यवसाय से जुडे लोग स्थाई रूप से दूर हो गये ,ये बडी विडम्बना है ।

[@imonistic]

ऐसा है श्रीमान कि आप सनातन के लिए बहुत अच्छा कर रहे हैं विद्वान भी हैं जाति का अर्थ ही जन्म से होता है आपको समझाने की आवश्यकता नहीं है। नहीं मानना है तो जाति मानिए ही मत कौन जबरन मनवा रहा है लेकिन अर्थ का अनर्थ काहे कर रहे हैं। दूसरी बात ये है कि वेद और शास्त्र परंपरा के कारण ही हमें और आपको आज उपलब्ध हैं जो जिनके कारण आप यह प्रवचन दे रहे हैं उनको ही परंपरावादी कह रहे हैं। शास्त्रों की व्याख्या परंपरा प्राप्त आचार्य ही उचित कर सकते हैं आपलोग जिस कार्य मे प्रशिक्षित हैं वही करें तो अच्छा है।

[@mahadevbhardwaj8334]

धर्म-वर्ण-कर्म योग्यता-क्षमता प्रधान सनातन धर्म सभ्यता-संस्कृति की वर्णाश्रम व्यवस्था सिर्फ प्राचीनतम ही नहीं अपितु वैज्ञानिक आधुनिक व्यवसायिक व्यवहारिक पारिवारिक सामाजिक आध्यात्मिक दार्शनिक शैक्षणिक राजनैतिक राजकीय ऐतिहासिक न्यायिक शासकीय चिकित्सकीय, +++ हर दृष्टिकोण से सत्यापित है 🙏🚩 मनुष्य जाति हेतु वर्ण व्यवस्था बनी है जिसके तीन मुख्य भाग हैं १) प्राकृतिक वर्ण २) जन्म-वर्ण ३) कर्म-वर्ण वर्तमान जीवन में कर्म-वर्ण प्रधान है किन्तु जन्म-वर्ण जाति है 🙏🚩 चारों वर्ण एक दूसरे के पूरक हैं, सहयोगी हैं> विरोधी नहीं हैं 🙏

[@Xeno98765]

वर्ण शब्द "वृञ" धातु से बनता है जिसका मतलब है चयन या वरण करना है । महर्षि मनु कहते हैं- =>शूद्रो ब्राह्मणतामेति ब्राह्मणश्चैति शूद्रताम। क्षत्रियाज्जातमेवं तु विद्याद्वैश्यात्तथैव च। - (मनुस्मृति-10/65) अर्थात- कर्म के अनुसार ब्राह्मण शूद्रता को प्राप्त हो जाता है और शूद्र ब्राह्मणत्व को। इसी प्रकार क्षत्रिय और वैश्य से उत्पन्न संतान भी अन्य वर्णों को प्राप्त हो जाया करती हैं। =>शुचिरुत्कृष्टशुश्रूषूर्मृदुवागनहंकृत: । ब्राह्मणद्याश्रयो नित्यमुत्कृष्टां जातिमश्नुते - (मनुस्मृति- 9/335) अर्थात - शुद्ध-पवित्र, अपने से उत्कृष्ट वर्ण वालों की सेवा करने वाला, मधुरभाषी, अहंकार से रहित, सदा ब्राह्मण आदि तीनों वर्णों की सेवा में संलग्न शूद्र भी उत्तम ब्रह्मजन्म के अतंर्गत दूसरे वर्ण को प्राप्त कर लेता है । * ब्रह्मजन्म से अभिप्राय शिक्षित होने से है। शिक्षित होने को दूसरा जन्म भी कहा गया है । प्राचीन इतिहास में वर्ण परिवर्तन के उदाहरण :-- (1) ऐतरेय ऋषि दास अथवा अपराधी के पुत्र थे । परन्तु उच्च कोटि के ब्राह्मण बने और उन्होंने ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण और ऐतरेय उपनिषद की रचना की । ऋग्वेद को समझने के लिए ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण अतिशय आवश्यक माना जाता है । (2) ऐलूष ऋषि दासी पुत्र थे । जुआरी और हीन चरित्र भी थे । परन्तु बाद में उन्होंने अध्ययन किया और ऋग्वेद पर अनुसन्धान करके अनेक अविष्कार किये । ऋषियों ने उन्हें आमंत्रित कर के आचार्य पद पर आसीन किया । (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण २.१९) (3) सत्यकाम जाबाल गणिका (वेश्या) के पुत्र थे परन्तु वे ब्राह्मणत्व को प्राप्त हुए। (4) राजा दक्ष के पुत्र पृषध शूद्र हो गए थे, प्रायश्चित स्वरुप तपस्या करके उन्होंने मोक्ष प्राप्त किया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.१.१४) अगर उत्तर रामायण की मिलावटी कथा के अनुसार शूद्रों के लिए तपस्या करना मना होता तो पृषध ये कैसे कर पाए? (5) राजा नेदिष्ट के पुत्र नाभाग वैश्य हुए । पुनः इनके कई पुत्रों ने क्षत्रिय वर्ण अपनाया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.१.१३) (6) धृष्ट नाभाग के पुत्र थे परन्तु ब्राह्मण हुए और उनके पुत्र ने क्षत्रिय वर्ण अपनाया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.२.२) (7) आगे उन्हींके वंश में पुनः कुछ ब्राह्मण हुए । (विष्णु पुराण ४.२.२) (9) भागवत के अनुसार राजपुत्र अग्निवेश्य ब्राह्मण हुए । (10) विष्णुपुराण और भागवत के अनुसार रथोतर क्षत्रिय से ब्राह्मण बने । (11) हारित क्षत्रियपुत्र से ब्राह्मण हुए । (विष्णु पुराण ४.३.५) (12) क्षत्रियकुल में जन्में शौनक ने ब्राह्मणत्व प्राप्त किया । (विष्णु पुराण४.८.१) (14) मातंग चांडालपुत्र से ब्राह्मण बने ।(महाभारत, अनु0 3.19) (15) ऋषि पुलस्त्य का पौत्र रावण अपने कर्मों से राक्षस बना । (16) राजा रघु का पुत्र प्रवृद्ध राक्षस हुआ । (17) त्रिशंकु राजा होते हुए भी कर्मों से चांडाल बन गए थे । (18) विश्वामित्र के पुत्रों ने शूद्र वर्ण अपनाया । विश्वामित्र स्वयं क्षत्रिय थे परन्तु बाद उन्होंने ब्राह्मणत्व को प्राप्त किया । (19) विदुर दासी पुत्र थे । तथापि वे ब्राह्मण हुए और उन्होंने हस्तिनापुर साम्राज्य का मंत्री पद सुशोभित किया ।(महाभारत, आदिपर्व100 -101, 135-137) (20) वत्स शूद्र कुल में उत्पन्न होकर भी ऋषि बने । (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण २.१९) (21) कान्यकुज के राजा विश्वरथ राज्य को त्याग कर क्षत्रिय से ब्राह्मण बने और फिर ब्रह्मर्षि का पद प्राप्त किया और ब्रह्मर्षि विश्वामित्र के नाम से प्रसिद्ध हुए। उनके अनेक पुत्रों में से कुछ क्षत्रिय ही रहे तो कुछ ब्राह्मण बन गये, जो आज कौशिक ब्राह्मण कहाते हैं। (वाल्मीकि रामायण, बालकाण्ड 51-56 अध्याय) (22) चक्रवर्ती क्षत्रिय राजा मनु वैवस्वत का नाभानेदिष्ट नामक पुत्र ब्राह्मण बना (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण 5.14) (23) दीर्घतमा नामक ऋषि के कई पुत्र थे, उनमें से कुछ ब्राह्मण बने तो कुछ क्षत्रिय। उनके वंशजों को ‘वालेय ब्राह्मण’ और ‘वालेय क्षत्रिय’ कहा जाता है। (विष्णुपुराण 4.18 ; भागवत पुराण 9.20) (24) पांचाल-राजा भर्याश्व का एक पुत्र मुद्गल राजा था, जो क्षत्रिय था। बाद में यह और इसके वंशज ब्राह्मण बन गये। इसके वंशज ब्राह्मण आज भी ‘मौद्गल ब्राह्मण’ कहलाते हैं (भागवतपुराण-9.21; वायु पुराण 99.198) (25) वाल्मीकि निन कुल में उत्पन्न हुए, किन्तु वे ब्रह्मर्षि और महाकवि बने। (स्कंद पुराण, वै0 21) (26) सत्यकाम जाबाल अज्ञात कुल का था। वह अपनी सत्यवादिता एवं प्रखर बुद्धि के कारण महान् और प्रसिद्ध ऋषि बना। ( पंचविश ब्राह्मण 8.6.1)

[@ProfRavenSteel]

_There was an idea to bring together a group of remarkable people to see what they become and when the time comes they will fight the battles that we never could_ 🙏🔥🕉️🚩🇮🇳

[@jhonsmith4553]

Yes Varna is Birth based but U need to Have Guna and Sanskara along with it........... Varna with Karma is false theory...... I hv simple question.......Dwijas are Born with Dev,Rishi and Pitru Rin.......how non dwijas gonnna get that ??????? And If its With Karma That why we hate Mughals and British ????Varna by Karma.......They did karma of Kshatriya.....They were Kings ......why dnt u accept that???????

[@benjishona2248]

.. first of all your idea of karmaphal is based upon your own desert Cult lens which has no contextual understanding of the pramanick system now I have pratyaksh Praman of Shivaji Raje becoming one of the greatest king but his forefathers were farmers !!!... Now how did he become such a great king and became Dharmik as opposed to being aDharmik like Aurangzeb??? no I have pratyaksh Praman of matanga Maharshi becoming Maharishi being from the Chandal community I have pratyaksh Praman of of Swami Vivekanand becoming a monk without being of Brahmin kul now I have pratyaksh Praman of how people went to the state of perfect parabhakti from the oariah community under Chaitanya Mahaprabhu I have pratyaksh praman of sadhak Ramprasad becoming one of the greatest shakta Giants without being from any Brahman community... I have the biggest pratyaksh Praman in the Mahabharata that even people like Dronacharya who was descendant of Maharishi Bhardwaj and Bhishma was the son of Ganga fought for Dharma and got destroyed because of it and at the same time the fight for Dharma was also continued by by someone like ghatothkach who was designated as a Rakshas most of his kula karma including the karmas he inherited from her mother and the surrounding in which hi grew up became a Protector of Dharma and virulent one!!! I have pratyaksh Praman that even ashwathama who was the son of Dronacharya and also the son of a Brahmin wife of Dronacharya became Monstrous even with the boon of Lord shiva and I have a opposite context of vedvyas becoming one of the greatest Rishi even though he was brought up by a fisherman mother and a fishermen community now you tell me????... now let me come to to the nature's and the Avinash both the matches and the owners did not respect sakriya Dharma they attacked civilians both of them did not respect the fact that you should not take away others wife which Maharana Pratap and Shivaji Raje maintained yavanas and mlechhas destroyed the education system which is depriving people from Vidya so the possibility of moksha is alienated!!!..... endlessly now we are in a state of Total War get ready

[@dineshsharma6125]

Brother Islam means kill the infidel where you see him. I mean how can you say that's ok. Your mere existence as Non-muslim is unacceptable.

[@sudipshettynoojjis7851]

The best way to deal with this is to NOT have these acronyms like Brahmans.. Kshatriya etc.... Identify yourself as your community.. Like fathers name and mothers name

[@sourashisbanerjee7166]

क्या है कि लोगों यदि यह लगता कि कर्म के हिसाब नहीं जन्म के हिसाब से होता है तोह कृप्रिय देखो कि वोह पुनर जन्म है की dwijanma है फिर बकवास करो

[@ashokvijay1144]

Okay , tell me how you will assign varna based on merit . And let’s validate against scriptures .

[@kundanthakurfiem]

Sir kindly invite Mrs. Karolina Goswami on this channel.She runs a KZbin channel named 'INDIA IN DETAILS'.She is from Poland but supports India and Hinduism a lot.

[@vijnanabandhu2167]

_prabhutvādārtvijyaṁ sarva-varṇānāṁ syāt_ *'Because they possess the ability to do so, all varṇas are entitled to officiate as priests.'* Mīmāṁsā Sūtras (12.4.35)

[@Kvish20]

I have seen many Patrika of same caste people but Varna were different of those people. My Varna according to Patrika is Kshatriya and I show some characteristics of this Varna, so I think it depends on your Karma and you can choose appropriate work according to your Varna.

[@karna_kayastha]

Kindly explain the Kayastha community and its history from the prism of Varna and jati

[@sspunch9886]

If i am a professor(teacher, aachaarya) i should consider myself a brahmin, eating satvic food and continue learning, teaching.. then if i join miltary during a war i should consider myself a kshatriya, eating raajasic food with focus on defeating the enemy.

[@aviralsharma7744]

yes

[@nitinjoshi3842]

Wonderful session.

[@vijnanabandhu2167]

"O honoured Yaksha, hear (me) doubtless, the actions alone and not lineage, perusal of sacred books and Vedic knowledge are determinants of Brahminhood. " "What is noticed in a Shudra doesn't exist in a Brahmin. A Shudra is not necessarily a Shudra, nor a Brahmin- Brahmin. O Sharpa, only he is called a Brahmin in whom such actions are found, where these are lacking one should designate him a Shudra." _Vanaparva_ , Mahabharata

[@jtta8282]

My comment is not related to this video but something came to mind and that is, Muslims could increase there poulation in america and once they reach a significant number, they might demand a seperate country, like they did in india.

[@405miranda]

European countries too...

[@py12367]

अरे जब उन्होंने अमेरिकन को अलग देश नहीं दिया तो मुस्लिमो को ख़ाक देंगे।ऐसा genocide वे करेंगे की सब नामो निशान मिटा देंगे,वो भारत नहीं है जो बटवारा जो जाए।

[@jatinderbhan]

They will....it is a matter of time! :(

[@mahadevbhardwaj8334]

कास्ट को समाज, सम्प्रदाय के पर्यायवाची शब्द के स्वरूप उपयोग कर सकते हैं > "जाति" कास्ट का पर्यायवाची शब्द कदापि नहीं है 🙏🚩

[@chandermohan1134]

Yes, Jati ka dictionary meaning Race hai.

[@mahadevbhardwaj8334]

@@chandermohan1134 अंग्रेजी में अर्थ ढूंढते रहेंगे तो पथ-दिशा-भ्रमित हो जायेंगे हिन्दू-भेष में बहुरूपियों-राष्ट्रद्रोहियों क्रिप्टो-क्रिश्चियन हिन्दूओं ने सनातन सिद्धांतों ज्ञान-विज्ञान, संस्कृत भाषा और हिन्दी भाषा के साथ देशद्रोहियों षड़यंत्रकारियों विघटनकारियों से मिलकर षड़यंत्र रचे हैं सनातन धर्म सभ्यता-संस्कृति में दलित, हरिजन, धर्मनिरपेक्ष नामक कोई शब्द होते ही नहीं हैं सनातनी हिन्दूओं को विभाजित करने पथ-दिशा-भ्रमित करने हेतु ऐसे-ऐसे प्रपंच प्रोपेगंडा नैरेटिव गढ़े गए हैं> जिनको बिना ईश्वर कृपा के समझा पाना असंभव लगता है 🙏🚩

[@advaitdarshan18]

आप लोग गलत हो पूर्वजन्म के कर्मो के फलस्वरूप वर्ण और जाति दोनो ही जन्म से ही होती है हरे कृष्ण

[@sourashisbanerjee7166]

अबे वोह द्विजन्मा होता नकी पूर्ण जनम

[@pradipmistry6666]

To aap khusnasib ho

[@cambs643]

Can you provide your contact mobile no or your working email?

[@dineshsharma6125]

Bewakoof aadmi. Karm se hi Varna hai, agar koi gadhi hai toh vo brahmin kaise ho sakta hai.

[@prbaana2419]

नमन ह आप दोनो ऋषियों को ।।। हर हर महादेव ।।।

[@aloksahu5660]

Yaha jis rudiwadi logo ki charcha ho Rahi hai. Unke guru hai Karpati Maharaj aur Swami nischalnand from Puri Goverdhan math.

[@IamChidanand]

1:37:00 ब्राह्मण not भ्रामन; ब्रम्ह and not भ्रम

[@chandermohan1134]

Varna was an ancient and vague notion which had no legal force. But Jati, tribe and traditional Hindu muslim and Shia Sunni divides are integral parts of the constitutional law. In other words, they are letter and spirit of it. From it, We get a glimpse of divisive and myopic mind of the bourgeoise colonial masters and their successors Macaulay children. Jai Sri Ram.

[@ar-yw9nc]

i highly disagree jati is birth based . by neglecting jati from birth u r directly denying the karm phal darshan of hindu dharm.

[@rajnarer]

Exactly can't wish away bigotry by dogging it

[@benjishona2248]

.. and by doing nonsense you are doing the bigotry of neglecting pratyaksh Praman karamfal darshan is not a static idea which is absolute tent that wish you only e able to decide pratyaksh Praman is Chandragupt Maurya was a better King than dhanananda pratyaksh Praman was Shivaji Raje was one of the greatest Kings pratyaksh Praman s Maharishi matanga could become Maharshi of great might and the Goddess event took birth in his home pratyaksh Praman is the kul Sanskar that Shri Krishna got from Yashoda and Nanda was far better than what he could have got from kamsa who was a kshatriya

[@zedwarrior1866]

There are and will be class systems in all societies. But Hindu caste system is unique in a way that their is no mobility among themselves. Neither intermarriages. The discussion is just whitewashing major faults and single most reason for fractured and disunited Hindus who cannot stand against Islamic onslaught. There are ample examples in history. Like Eklavya, Shambhuk, Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj who was declined for coronation.

[@dineshsharma6125]

But those can be job related discrimination. Exisited all over the world. Peasant class was peasant in France.

[@anjangaon]

Naag Paash as an allegory was perfect Prof Kak. In one word the gravity of the stranglehold on our thought process is described.

[@rabilochanmahato1630]

What about marriages ? can inter cast marriage right or wrong?

[@anandsaini]

Sir ...Jati ka current rup kab bna ...Like isme rigidity kab aayi ..agar ye rigidity aayi to galati kiski hai ?? Muslim to 1200 me rule start hua ...Usse phle jati nhi tha ?? Usse phle shudra or aaje ke sc st ko discriminate nhi hota tha ?? Angrez to 1700 me aaye the ...

[@brockthegod3357]

Hota ta tha kyuki ye Kaliyug hai yaha bharaman apne app ko kehne walo ke karm khud shudro jese honge aur wo garv se kehte hai me bharaman hu

[@Vigyandarshan]

Ved ki upyogita sarvakalik h...🙏 uska mahatv kabhi km nhi hota h..

[@kissabazar]

Well this is a sad commentary. Let assume for a second that caste has never been hereditary, even then what would justify the inhuman oppression of the people at the lowest stratum ? Even if it was purely on basis of occupation, what justifies ill-treatment of someone who carries a carcass just because some priest is too pious to touch a dead cow although he drank her body fluids while she lived !! It looks even more sinister if it’s purely based on occupation!!!

[@Adonis626]

Manusmriti doens't mention doing such. You will only find answers if you try to mate, you can't expect an equation to be solved on its own nor you can directly write an answer without doing solution. There are dozens of version of manusmriti in the sub-continent alone. When the British came they researched about Hinduism they had come to know that mughal rulers couldn't turn the Hindu society upside down in four hundred years. For capturing India & properly ruling it, they had to end this societal system hence they attacked the religion they picked the version which suited them best, further more wrongly translated it & then published it on large scale. The main battles British fought against Marathas, they used dalit. It's depressing to see you still believe the white men more then your own thousand year culture.

[@omnmhsivay488]

Kyun na samaj ko purus prdhan se mahila prdhan kiya jaye,jisse kulgotr ka janjat hi khatm ho jaye.kyun ki mahilaye sadi ke bad apne kul or jati ki pahchan ko tyag deti ha.om

[@surendratiwari3097]

Dikshit ji, aapka karykram jankariyon se bhra h. Aap jis prakar jagrukta faila rhe h. Nmn krta hu

[@himmatjatt2262]

Much awaited topic and no one touches this topic even many profound hindu leaders and many hindu babas....thanks..for discussing this topic...jai Arya samaj..jai Santan dharma..

[@SHIVAM-qe8uo]

Jai arya samaj

[@theybecameus]

Yogi Ji future Prime minister 🔥🚩

[@jtta8282]

Chances are all this covid wave has been started to defeat yogi in UP so that he can not become future PM.

[@सत्यंवदति]

इसके लिए आपका बहोत बहोत धन्यवाद

[@jaybharat3677]

👌🏻👌🏻🙏🏻

[@ratneshshrivastava6444]

Shankaracharyas to Varna by birth mein vishwas Karte hain aur merit ka saath nahin dete. Mujhe correct Karen agar me galat hun to. Agar me correct hun to kya Shankaracharya by merit Shankaracharya baney hain?

[@Devine_wave]

Watch puri shankaracharya videos on" varna based on birth or not " . He says varna is based on birth only .these 2 guys are misleading brother .I'm a hindu myself but I'm ashamed of our social evils like caste system .these things should not be justified but removed .that's how we unite all Hindus

[@ratneshshrivastava6444]

@@Devine_wave Well said. Hinduism badly needs meritorious Shankaracharya !

[@karanbajpai-iv4cv]

What is Varna sankarta then?

[@abeer6383]

Varna Vyavastha is based on Janma+Karma+Sanskar. You get a body of particular Varna because of karma in past life.

[@benjishona2248]

. Matanga Maharshi got the body of a Chandal become Maharishi Ved Vyas got his body from a fisherman mother brought up by the fisherman and he became vedvyas similarly Ravan got the body of a Brahmin because he was the son of which should have become a demon so that relativity is too complex for you to understand

[@abeer6383]

@@benjishona2248 changing varna requires a lot of tapasya which everyone cannot do.

[@benjishona2248]

@@abeer6383 .. as I said I do not do Shastrart that even in the slightest manner without the Praman system now let me tell you you what is the upamana , now I don't know from which Varna you belong suppose you belong from a Brahmin ,further you have done no Tapasya , you did not achieve to the moksha and you did not understand the vedic knowledge in its appropriate manner and you died an ignorant and suppose another person who went to Ramakrishna Mission because Ramakrishna Mission does not believing jaati Pratha obviously because of Sri Ramakrishna Dev because he included people from many Varna sect so on and so forth now he goes there he does Brahmacharya he does Tapasya and he achieves Moksha and you did not then I cannot call you are Brahman because I do not feel like there is no pratyaksh Praman anumanik upman anupalabdhi which can justify such logical nonsense now you will tell me the example of Mahabharata , which Brahman in today's age is a Ved Vyas?? or someone like Maharshi vasisth?? no one so you are born to a person who may be a Brahmin who talks trivial stuffs about purana, Shastra and kathas but himself does not have any anupalabdhi any tapas or any Sadhana then you are on the same page as anybody I do not care for what happens!! what is practiced!! what is what !!!the pramanas stand strong nothing else !!!!!!!././ So by Sadhna nobody changes Varna they become the varna so understand the difference when narendranath Datta became Vivekananda he became Vivekananda he did not have to change nobody needs to certify because he has realised the truth himself similarly Brahmananda whose name was Rakhal Chandra Ghosh was not a Brahmin he was absolutely Soumya and Satvik in nature as opposed to Vivekananda who had sattvic nature and Veera Bhav together and there were brahmins who were absolutely Aadharmik were supporting the British system what are you talking about Sister Nivedita should be considered as vidharmi according to our understanding , she became one of the greatest freedom fighters she became the student of Vivekananda ..... jatindra Nath Mukhopadhyay was born a Brahmin but became Bagha Jatin who defeated the tiger with his hand what is the description of Brahman given by Parshuram??? that a Brahmin cannot take the bite of a Scorpion !!!!that is what is said to karna ,Bagha Jatin defeated a tiger with a knife and their hands now he is a chhatriya, Shivaji Raje was born in a farmer's family from childhood he was interested in Dharma and chhatriya Dharma by the time he was a teenager he was a great chhatriya by the time he was nearing adulthood became a great Warrior by the time he was an adult he was a king so what kind of punarjanma he had ???what kind of Karma he did in the janma??? in which he existed even he assisted in the family where his fathers were working for mlechha Kings but that became a positive thing for his growth ,because he got frustrated more than anybody ,he had direct exposure to the kind of nonsense that was going on , now his Karmic system was absolutely fine for the kind of work he could achieve if you take any piece out of the puzzle there is no Chhatrapati Shivaji Raje... so you can do your nonsense I don't believe in nonsense....!!

[@abeer6383]

@@benjishona2248 my knowledge is limited but I accept only what Dharmacharya say.

[@DattaMusics]

@@abeer6383 then you are blind without Vivek who cannot judge or even grasp what is being said !!.....how do u question by the authority of a small dharmacharya with a giant like Ramananda ??....Maharshi Abhinava Gupta ??....Guru matsyendranath ??....Maa Sarada , Siddha Boganathar .....so if u accept a small time dharmacharya's words with the audacity to cancel out and cross-question avataras , ayonij rishi but you do not do that to your acharya .....either it is stupidity , mediocrity , nonsense or hypocrisy !!.....stupidity is a trait of posing trads or raitas who are neither traditional nor liberal !!.....let me get this once .....Ashish is the trade guy , he will tell you that Kashmiri Shaivism did not give deeksha based on varnasharama neither does any Nigama sect nor does pashupata traditions , Nathas , yoga upanishadic panths , Siddha kula or Kaula and panchtantr ,Shaiva agamic or bhairava agmaic !!....because not only varnashrama but the Puri interpretation is against Tantra , kashiri shaivism , Shaiva siddhanta , Sourya upasana even Sourya agamas says it is acrime Papa and will turn the one who deviated one from Sourya sadhana because of smritichaar , Varnashram will be turned blind and will be deemed unworthy of Surya Narayan the nest birth shankaracharya is only the Acharya for jnana vedantins but not Yogis, yoga vedantins , agambagish panths , Vallabh sampradaya , vishishtadvaita , Panchatantra , Ramanandi , Kashmiri Shaivism , Ramcharitmanas among others he has no authority ....

[@anjangaon]

The best discussion on Varna -Jaati vyavastha in recent times. Thanks - Sanjay Dixit & Prof Subhash Kak. Many controversial subjects touched upon and clarified quite beautifully.

[@chandermohan1134]

Lekin iss sambandh mein yeh partit hota hai ki Sanjay ji bhee parda-poshi karna chaahtey hein. After-all 200--300 varshon sey chali aa rahi colonial avm neo-colonial parampara sey baahir aana itna aasaan nahin hai. Jai Sri Ram.

[@seekerseeker4112]

Today so called Intellectual/ teachers/professors consider themselves superior and want respect but bash Brahmins who were true intellectuals and worked to uplift the community. Today Soldiers are given respect because they fight for the safety of the state but bashing Kshtriya is in fashion? 🤔

[@chandermohan1134]

Excellent. But what else can be expected from an old fashioned colonial legacy and its votaries? Early bourgeoise scholars predicted it to be a thing of 20--25 years.

[@akhilupadhyay1732]

Hmm ...what about demeaning and discrimination on dalits and obcs.....and how many brahmins preached knowledge to lower caste ?

[@chandermohan1134]

@@akhilupadhyay1732 The real Dalits in these days are former caste Hindus who have lost their everything in this vote politics, because of less vote power.

[@akhilupadhyay1732]

@@chandermohan1134bruh u jumped on my question dude...were these dalit were given fair share even something as primal as dignity in past 1500 years atleast....we brahmins and swarnas kept them devoid from so many things...who would be accountable for that?

[@chandermohan1134]

@@akhilupadhyay1732 Obsession with the past is not a good thing. Present is more important where former caste Hindus are suffering a lot and have lost everything including their caste and may totally disappear in coming one two decades. These said democracies work in this way where racial or Jati or sectarian majorities eat up the miniorities sooner than later. These said democracies are not a dependable way of life either economically or politically.

[@jayantmishra3360]

Vedic scripture models any system in purush form because in our knowledge human form is the best form. So we read purushsukta while puja or shraddha when we offer ball of consecrated rice called pind dan. In purushshukt one sloka reads as under. ब्राह्मणस्य मुखमासीत् बाहु राजन्य कृतः ऊरु ऊर्धस्य तद् बैश्यः पदभ्यां शूद्ः अजायतः। In purush the countenance portion is brahmin, the hands are khatri, the mid torso is vaishya, the legs are the sudra. जन्मना जायते शूद्रः संस्कारात् द्विजः भबति।

[@UnbowedUnbentUnbroken91]

In 12th century Maharashtra, there was a great saint Sant Gyaneshwar. He was from a Brahmin family. But his entire family was outcasted by the puritans. They were treated like Dalits. So my takeaway from this is untouchability was irrespective of your caste but it rests entirely on your karma

[@chandermohan1134]

@R SS Tales and fables as history.

[@DattaMusics]

@@chandermohan1134 Brahmins opposed Sri Ramakrishna , Brahmins oppsed Buddha , brahmins opposed Sri Aurobindo , gorakhbaba ,avatar purush Machindernath , lahiri mahasaya , Sant peeps , Dhanna , Ravidas , swami Vivekananda , Krishnananda agambagish , chaitanya mahaprabhu , Swami prabhavananda , Guru govind Singh , Kaulantak sages , Basavanna , alamma mahaprabhu , Ramalingaswamigal ....rurhivadi conspiracy is real just it is over exploded by ambedakrites who curse swamiji I hate both !!....

[@nkmahale]

This is beating around the bush by brahmins. Ask for the perspective from a Shudra on how he/she feels about this.

[@chandermohan1134]

But Indian constitution and connected cheap vote politics have totally rejected all these notions of Varna system from the very beginning. In has replaced the Varna with Jati/Race, tribe, traditional Hindu Muslim divide etc. As such some Jatis/Races and tribes and sects have got far more superior place as compared to dwindling former Swarn Jatis who are now a forlorn people. In addition to Indian constitution, there are many other dated colonial theories and legislations which are still operating as powerful laws in respect of army recruitment and land ownership in this Modern Indian State. But Macaulay children and paid media and syllabus scholars have always hidden these bare facts for obvious reasons. Nazar aati nahin manzil, Tadpney sey bhee kiya haasil, Takdeer mein ai merey dil, Andherey hi andherey hein, Nazar aati nahin manzil. Jai Shankar, Jai Sri Ram.

[@vijnanabandhu2167]

Mountstuart Elphinstone in a written reply to the House of Commons in August 5, 1832 on mobility in India despite the caste system : *"Notwithstanding the institution of castes, there is no country where men rise with more ease from the lowest rank to the highest.* The first nabob (now king) of Oude, was a petty merchant; the first peishwa, a village accountant; the ancestors of Holcar were goatherds; and those of Scindia, slaves. All these, and many other instances, took place within the last century. Promotions from among the common people to all the ranks of civil and military employment, short of sovereignty, are of daily occurrence under native states, and this keeps up the spirit of the people, and in that respect partially supplies the place of popular institutions. The free intercourse of the different ranks also keeps up a sort of circulation and diffusion of such knowledge and such sentiments as exist in the society. *Under us [i.e. in Britain], on the contrary, the community is divided into two perfectly distinct and dissimilar bodies, of which the one is torpid and inactive, while all the sense and power seems concentrated in the other… "* Source: Dow, Alexander, The History of Hindostan, vol. I, Today & Tomorrow’s Printers & Publishers, 1973, first published 1870., page 32

[@rohanvyas9887]

1:40:00

[@ramyabhat4242]

Varna merit is birth based to clean body through karmayoga to achieve salvation. Casteism is to promote particular quality to protect hinduism.

[@rajnarer]

To.protect biased and raciest society lol

[@DattaMusics]

The day you tell me how , Jyoti Basu is a kilin kayast , Mamta Banerjee is a Brahmin and how her brothers are drunk , druggies ...I will accept , the lowest birth is of Mamta and his brothers .of asuric and tamasic pravritti , impure body , impure mind , impure actions , low birth !!

[@1585pj]

महोदय जी पंडित महेन्द्र पाल आर्य जी से साकार और निराकार पर चर्चा कब करने वाले है

[@py12367]

😁

[@rex007king]

Gender Fluidity thus is an advanced form of Varna fluidity. Because at different different times the same person can manifest male and female qualities. Birth has no role. And in current times we also see examples where Males have become Females and then again became Males. It's all good in silos when you are in your bedroom alone. The problem occurs during inter-gender interactions or inter-Varna/Jati interactions. If an accused can change his Jati/Varna and become the Judge whenever he likes, how is the Law supposed to work ?? These are the issues which goes unanswered in all such debates. All we are told again and again that it's not by birth it's not by birth. How it worked if not by birth nobody knows ?

[@kamalkant6135]

Commenting on gita wow ....prof might be a product of guru shishya parmpara ....can you tell us about your guru???

[@ram4226]

Schindhia bhi kunbi, Holkar bhi shepherd... Baaki bhi sabhi Maratha Raja OBC

[@sheshbharat2014]

आज पहलीबार मुझे सुनने में ज्यादा आनंद आ रहा है।2007 में 3 बार श्रीमद् भगवदगीता पढ़ने के बाद4 थी बार में इसी अध्याय के इसी श्लोक पे रुक गया था।बहुत सोचा समझा,समझ आया।हम कितने गलत हो गए।गुण कर्म की जगह जन्मजात वर्ण करना कितना घातक हुआ।आज हम सिर्फ और सिर्फ शेष भारत में अंतिम सांसे गिन रहे हैं।

[@cambs643]

अब क्या समझ आया? और पहले क्या समझ आया था? थोड़ा खुलकर लिखिए तो फिर चर्चा हो सके!

[@sheshbharat2014]

@@cambs643 हा जी ,पहले सोचते थे कि समाज में हर बिरादरी के लोग जन्म से ही ऊंच नीच पैदा लेते है।हमारा धर्म ग्रंथ भी यही कहता है। लेकिन श्रीमद् भगवदगीता पढ़ने के बाद मुझे मालूम हुआ कि सच्चाई क्या है।सनातन वैदिक विज्ञान में जन्मजात कुछ नही है।सब कुछ हमारे गुण( जो कि हम बचपन से युवा तक सीखते हैं) और गुण के अनुसार किए गए हमारे कर्म ही हमे अपना अपना वर्ण चुनने का अधिकार देता है।

[@Xeno98765]

वर्ण शब्द "वृञ" धातु से बनता है जिसका मतलब है चयन या वरण करना है । महर्षि मनु कहते हैं- =>शूद्रो ब्राह्मणतामेति ब्राह्मणश्चैति शूद्रताम। क्षत्रियाज्जातमेवं तु विद्याद्वैश्यात्तथैव च। - (मनुस्मृति-10/65) अर्थात- कर्म के अनुसार ब्राह्मण शूद्रता को प्राप्त हो जाता है और शूद्र ब्राह्मणत्व को। इसी प्रकार क्षत्रिय और वैश्य से उत्पन्न संतान भी अन्य वर्णों को प्राप्त हो जाया करती हैं। =>शुचिरुत्कृष्टशुश्रूषूर्मृदुवागनहंकृत: । ब्राह्मणद्याश्रयो नित्यमुत्कृष्टां जातिमश्नुते - (मनुस्मृति- 9/335) अर्थात - शुद्ध-पवित्र, अपने से उत्कृष्ट वर्ण वालों की सेवा करने वाला, मधुरभाषी, अहंकार से रहित, सदा ब्राह्मण आदि तीनों वर्णों की सेवा में संलग्न शूद्र भी उत्तम ब्रह्मजन्म के अतंर्गत दूसरे वर्ण को प्राप्त कर लेता है । * ब्रह्मजन्म से अभिप्राय शिक्षित होने से है। शिक्षित होने को दूसरा जन्म भी कहा गया है । प्राचीन इतिहास में वर्ण परिवर्तन के उदाहरण :-- (1) ऐतरेय ऋषि दास अथवा अपराधी के पुत्र थे । परन्तु उच्च कोटि के ब्राह्मण बने और उन्होंने ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण और ऐतरेय उपनिषद की रचना की । ऋग्वेद को समझने के लिए ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण अतिशय आवश्यक माना जाता है । (2) ऐलूष ऋषि दासी पुत्र थे । जुआरी और हीन चरित्र भी थे । परन्तु बाद में उन्होंने अध्ययन किया और ऋग्वेद पर अनुसन्धान करके अनेक अविष्कार किये । ऋषियों ने उन्हें आमंत्रित कर के आचार्य पद पर आसीन किया । (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण २.१९) (3) सत्यकाम जाबाल गणिका (वेश्या) के पुत्र थे परन्तु वे ब्राह्मणत्व को प्राप्त हुए। (4) राजा दक्ष के पुत्र पृषध शूद्र हो गए थे, प्रायश्चित स्वरुप तपस्या करके उन्होंने मोक्ष प्राप्त किया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.१.१४) अगर उत्तर रामायण की मिलावटी कथा के अनुसार शूद्रों के लिए तपस्या करना मना होता तो पृषध ये कैसे कर पाए? (5) राजा नेदिष्ट के पुत्र नाभाग वैश्य हुए । पुनः इनके कई पुत्रों ने क्षत्रिय वर्ण अपनाया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.१.१३) (6) धृष्ट नाभाग के पुत्र थे परन्तु ब्राह्मण हुए और उनके पुत्र ने क्षत्रिय वर्ण अपनाया । (विष्णु पुराण ४.२.२) (7) आगे उन्हींके वंश में पुनः कुछ ब्राह्मण हुए । (विष्णु पुराण ४.२.२) (9) भागवत के अनुसार राजपुत्र अग्निवेश्य ब्राह्मण हुए । (10) विष्णुपुराण और भागवत के अनुसार रथोतर क्षत्रिय से ब्राह्मण बने । (11) हारित क्षत्रियपुत्र से ब्राह्मण हुए । (विष्णु पुराण ४.३.५) (12) क्षत्रियकुल में जन्में शौनक ने ब्राह्मणत्व प्राप्त किया । (विष्णु पुराण४.८.१) (14) मातंग चांडालपुत्र से ब्राह्मण बने ।(महाभारत, अनु0 3.19) (15) ऋषि पुलस्त्य का पौत्र रावण अपने कर्मों से राक्षस बना । (16) राजा रघु का पुत्र प्रवृद्ध राक्षस हुआ । (17) त्रिशंकु राजा होते हुए भी कर्मों से चांडाल बन गए थे । (18) विश्वामित्र के पुत्रों ने शूद्र वर्ण अपनाया । विश्वामित्र स्वयं क्षत्रिय थे परन्तु बाद उन्होंने ब्राह्मणत्व को प्राप्त किया । (19) विदुर दासी पुत्र थे । तथापि वे ब्राह्मण हुए और उन्होंने हस्तिनापुर साम्राज्य का मंत्री पद सुशोभित किया ।(महाभारत, आदिपर्व100 -101, 135-137) (20) वत्स शूद्र कुल में उत्पन्न होकर भी ऋषि बने । (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण २.१९) (21) कान्यकुज के राजा विश्वरथ राज्य को त्याग कर क्षत्रिय से ब्राह्मण बने और फिर ब्रह्मर्षि का पद प्राप्त किया और ब्रह्मर्षि विश्वामित्र के नाम से प्रसिद्ध हुए। उनके अनेक पुत्रों में से कुछ क्षत्रिय ही रहे तो कुछ ब्राह्मण बन गये, जो आज कौशिक ब्राह्मण कहाते हैं। (वाल्मीकि रामायण, बालकाण्ड 51-56 अध्याय) (22) चक्रवर्ती क्षत्रिय राजा मनु वैवस्वत का नाभानेदिष्ट नामक पुत्र ब्राह्मण बना (ऐतरेय ब्राह्मण 5.14) (23) दीर्घतमा नामक ऋषि के कई पुत्र थे, उनमें से कुछ ब्राह्मण बने तो कुछ क्षत्रिय। उनके वंशजों को ‘वालेय ब्राह्मण’ और ‘वालेय क्षत्रिय’ कहा जाता है। (विष्णुपुराण 4.18 ; भागवत पुराण 9.20) (24) पांचाल-राजा भर्याश्व का एक पुत्र मुद्गल राजा था, जो क्षत्रिय था। बाद में यह और इसके वंशज ब्राह्मण बन गये। इसके वंशज ब्राह्मण आज भी ‘मौद्गल ब्राह्मण’ कहलाते हैं (भागवतपुराण-9.21; वायु पुराण 99.198) (25) वाल्मीकि निन कुल में उत्पन्न हुए, किन्तु वे ब्रह्मर्षि और महाकवि बने। (स्कंद पुराण, वै0 21) (26) सत्यकाम जाबाल अज्ञात कुल का था। वह अपनी सत्यवादिता एवं प्रखर बुद्धि के कारण महान् और प्रसिद्ध ऋषि बना। ( पंचविश ब्राह्मण 8.6.1)

[@sheshbharat2014]

बहुत सुंदर विश्लेषण

[@rajnarer]

How does all the gyan matter as on ground we have so much discrimination I suppose its like one of my friend used to do pot to justify he used to say even god men do its like justifying ur ills all this program mean nothing ..

[@rudramath5949]

Sir,Intellectually storming session indeed.Once at our home my described a very interesting incident at her workplace.Once a elderly person from her native village met her at market when she was coming with her colleague.My Mataji went into conversation by paying respects as Doddappa or bade papa.Then her colleuge asked her whether he is really your bade papa.Then my mother told that we respect elders of our village like our own family members.I was amazed to hear that civilizational value.

[@abhijitbose8487]

Sanjay ji namaste, Dr Subhash ji ko bhi mera naman,

[@pranavchandra9134]

श्रीमान ने बहुत सुन्दर एवं प्राचीनाधुनिक विवरण दिया।

[@KrishnaKumar-ce8te]

Yadi Ek Caste Yaa Jaati ko Le Toa Usme Bhi Ye 4 Varna Honge CASTE Ke Saath Vrna Ko Jod Toa Kya Harj Hoga Jaise Eak Pariwar Ke Sadasya Alag Alag Varna Likh Sakate Hai Jaise Singh Yadav TriYadav ONLY Yadav Bal yadav K K Gupta Banda U P

[@brockthegod3357]

Phele sirname nahi hote the British nikale hak

[@ashokmotivaras157]

Namaste the hay power hindu Sriman Subhash kaka Sat Sat Pranam Jay Bharti

[@vivekp4070]

Great sewa oh dharma. Allays perverted beliefs. Pranaams

[@abhijeetsingh738]

गुरूजी प्रणाम कृपया एक सेशन योगेश्वर कृष्ण जी पर करें

[@ansh9314]

This is the most confusing and ambiguous discussion on the Jaipur Dialogues. It is sad to have this.

[@zangbuddha5541]

Varna theoratically is not birth based but ability based, but unfortunately on ground it is exactly the opposite.. What is the reason, why in practice in India, varna has turned into birth based... People do not touh, eat with lower cast people.. Is it only the fault of foreigners, or it was our own Bhramins who wrongly interpreted varna on the base of birth.. In Mahabharat, Soot cast were not allowed to learn weapons ..

[@Adonis626]

That's completely wrong. Read mahabharat stop watching it from television dude. Karna learnt under Guru drona just like arjuna & other sons of kshatriya kings

[@Xeno98765]

Shudra and Vedas❤️ 🌺शूद्रों का वेद अध्ययन एवं उसके प्रचार का अधिकार🌺 - यथे॒मां वाचं॑ कल्या॒णीमा॒वदा॑नि॒ जने॑भ्यः। ब्र॒ह्म॒रा॒ज॒न्या᳖भ्या शूद्राय॒ चार्या॑य च॒ स्वाय॒ चार॑णाय च। प्रि॒यो दे॒वानां॒ दक्षि॑णायै दा॒तुरि॒ह भू॑यासम॒यं मे॒ कामः॒ समृ॑ध्यता॒मुप॑ मा॒दो न॑मतु ॥२ ॥ ( यजुर्वेद » अध्याय:26» मन्त्र:2 ) अर्थ - हे मनुष्यो ! मैं (ईश्वर ) सबका कल्याण करने वाली वेदरूप वाणी का सब जनों के लिए उपदेश कर रहा हूँ, जैसे मैं इस वाणी का ब्राह्मण , क्षत्रियों, शूद्रों और वैश्यों के लिए जैसे मैं इसका उपदेश कर रहा हूँ और जिन्हें तुम अपना आत्मीय समझते हो , उन सबके लिए इसका उपदेश कर रहा हूँ और जिसे पराया समझते हो, उसके लिए भी मैं इसका उपदेश कर रहा हूँ, वैसे ही तुम भी आगे आगे सब लोगों के लिए इस वाणी के उपदेश का क्रम चलते रहो. ____________________________ 🌺शुद्रो से समानता का व्यव्हार🌺 - रुचं॑ नो धेहि ब्राह्म॒णेषु॒ रुच॒ꣳ राज॑सु नस्कृधि। रुचं॒ विश्ये॑षु शू॒द्रेषु॒ मयि॑ धेहि रु॒चा रुच॑म् ॥४८ ॥ (यजुर्वेद » अध्याय:18» मन्त्र:48) अर्थ - हे ईश्वर ! आप हमारी रुचि ब्राह्मणों के प्रति उत्पन्न कीजिए, क्षत्रियों के प्रति उत्पन्न कीजिए, वैश्यों के प्रति उत्पन्न कीजिए और शूद्रों के प्रति उत्पन्न कीजिए। मंत्र का भाव यह है कि हे परमात्मन! आपकी कृपा से हमारा स्वभाव और मन ऐसा हो जाए कि ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य और शूद्र सभी वर्णों के लोगों के प्रति हमारी रुचि हो। सभी वर्णों के लोग हमें अच्छे लगें। सभी वर्णों के लोगों के प्रति हमारा बर्ताव सदा प्रेम और प्रीति का रहे। ____________________________ 🌺शुद्रो व अन्य वर्णों के पापों के लिए छमा याचना 🌺- यद् ग्रामे॒ यदर॑ण्ये॒ यत्स॒भायां॒ यदि॑न्द्रि॒ये। यच्छू॒द्रे यदर्ये॒ यदेन॑श्चकृ॒मा व॒यं यदेक॒स्याधि॒ धर्म॑णि॒ तस्या॑व॒यज॑नमसि ॥१७ ॥ (यजुर्वेद » अध्याय:20» मन्त्र:17) अर्थ - हे विद्वन् ! हम लोग जो गाँव में , जो जङ्गल में , जो सभा में ,जो मन में , जो शूद्र में , जो स्वामी वा वैश्य में ब्राह्मण या क्षत्रिय में , जो एक के ऊपर धर्म में तथा जो और अपराध करते हैं वा करनेवाले हैं उस सबका आप छुड़ाने के साधन हैं, ________________________________ 🌺शूद्र यज्ञ कर सकता है🌺 - अ॒ग्नेस्त॒नूर॑सि वा॒चो वि॒सर्ज॑नं दे॒ववी॑तये त्वा गृह्णामि बृ॒हद् ग्रा॑वासि वानस्प॒त्यः सऽइ॒दं दे॒वेभ्यो॑ ह॒विः श॑मीष्व सु॒शमि॑ शमीष्व। हवि॑ष्कृ॒देहि॒ हवि॑ष्कृ॒देहि॑ ॥१५॥ (यजुर्वेद » अध्याय:1» मन्त्र:15) अर्थ - मैं सब जनों के सहित और काष्ठ के मूसल आदि पदार्थ विद्वान् वा दिव्यगुणों के लिये उस यज्ञ को श्रेष्ठ विद्वान् वा विविध भोगों की प्राप्ति के लिये ग्रहण करता हूं। हे विद्वान् मनुष्य! तुम विद्वानों के सुख के लिये अच्छे प्रकार दुःख शान्त करने वाले यज्ञ करने योग्य पदार्थ को अत्यन्त शुद्ध करो। जो मनुष्य वेद आदि शास्त्रों को प्रीतिपूर्वक पढ़ते वा पढ़ाते हैं, उन्हीं को यह होम में चढ़ाने योग्य पदार्थों का विधान करने वाली जो कि यज्ञ को करने के लिये ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य और शूद्रों की शुद्ध सुशिक्षित और प्रसिद्ध वाणी वेद के पढ़ने से है . ________________________________ 🌺शुद्रो को नमन एवं सत्कार करना 🌺- नम॒स्तक्ष॑भ्यो रथका॒रेभ्य॑श्च वो॒ नमो॒ नमः॒ कुला॑लेभ्यः क॒र्मारेभ्यश्च वो॒ नमो॒ नमो॑ निषा॒देभ्यः॑ पु॒ञ्जिष्ठे॑भ्यश्च वो॒ नमो॒ नमः॑ श्व॒निभ्यो॑ मृग॒युभ्य॑श्च वो॒ नमः॑ ॥२७ ॥ (यजुर्वेद » अध्याय:16» मन्त्र:27) अर्थ - हे मनुष्यो ! जैसे राजा परिश्रम करने वालों को धन देके सत्कार करते है उसी तरह मट्टी के पात्र बनानेवालों को को नमन है अन्नादि पदार्थ और खड्ग, बन्दूक और तोप आदि शस्त्र बनानेवाले तुम लोगों का सत्कार व नमन करते हैं वन और पर्वतादि में रह कर अन्नादि देते , कुत्तों को शिक्षा करने ( कुत्तों को पालतू बनाना) तुम को अन्नादि देते और अपने आत्मा से वन के हरिण आदि पशुओं को चाहने वाले तुम लोगों का सत्कार करते हैं, वैसे तुम लोग भी करो . ___________________________ 🌺ईश्वर की नज़र में सभी एक सामान है कोई बड़ा छोटा नहीं 🌺- अज्येष्ठासो अकनिष्ठास एते सं भ्रातरो वावृधुः सौभाय । -(ऋग्वेद 5/60/5) अर्थ:-ईश्वर कहता है कि हे संसार के लोगों ! न तो तुममें कोई बड़ा है और न छोटा।तुम सब भाई-भाई हो। सौभाग्य की प्राप्ति के लिए आगे बढ़ो।

[@vrishikantak12]

I need clear definition and corrology In words like ethinicity race caste creed Wansh kul gotra jati varn And What would be varn of modiji? He is politician. Which warn does it come in? Neta- Raja? Will it b kshatriya?

[@umashankardandotiya2452]

He's in Brahmin category right now, jd se hi sikha he

[@KaartikGor]

In Jyotisa/Vedic Astrology we always follow "Karmasya Brahmana" and Varna is based on 4 types of planet. For Example:- Jupiter is Satva hence rules Brahmana/Consulting professions, Mercury is Rajas planet hence rules Vaishya Varna, and so on. This is seen from Varnada Lagna, karma one will do in this life. It is more like an HR department that does a talent test and then offers a post in a related department. Hope this helps.

[@Kvish20]

I have seen many Patrika of same caste people but Varna were different of those people. My Varna according to Patrika is Kshatriya and I show some characteristics of this Varna, so I think it depends on your Karma and you can choose appropriate work according to your Varna.

[@Kunal-yn9xs]

वर्ण का मतलब रंग होते हैं , पता नहीं कहा से इसको गुण धर्म से जोड़ दिया ।

[@dineshsharma6125]

Varna ka matlabb Rang nahi hota tau. tamil mein vamma ka matlabb rang hota hai. Varna ka matlab classification hota hai.

[@neurographs9740]

Shudra were the richest varna before British. They became poor because of industries britishers started which destroyed their business.

[@ASHOK898]

They became poor because shatriya never fought against British and became there agents and started collecting huge taxes, only Maratha and Sikhs fought against British there was no Rajput Anglo war happend in past, angreszon ne hume loota aur humaree shatriya samaaj ne unki madad kari lagaan wasool kar, apnee je prajaa koo loota

[@dineshsharma6125]

@@ASHOK898 Brother Sikhs were the best pets of Britishers. Look up Jatt Sikhs were used by brits to rule along with Gutkhas, pathans, parsi, sindhis etc.

[@dineshsharma6125]

@@ASHOK898 British came in only after death of Raja Ranjith Singh's, the court of Sikh had factions fighting, the factions who were disadvantaged were recruited by Brits. Also, it was the British who made the Jatt Sikh Code in effect, they went to scriptures and set a code of 5 kakars as strict entry level requirement. Before that Sikhs were not following it strictly, also the Surname Singh was optional but for British recruitments they were all made mandatory.

[@omnmhsivay488]

Sabhi sanataniyo ko jorne ke liye aarh bhot mahtv rakhta ha,ham sabhi ko ek sistam khara karna chahiye ,or arth niche se upar ki taraf bhega to samsya jald sudhr jaye.om

[@RBSingh-um9bl]

संजय जी वर्ण शंकर की परिभाषा जो काक जी ने बताई मैं उस से सहमत नही हूँ ।थोड़ी बहुत गीता जी को मैने भी पढ़ा है ।

[@RBSingh-um9bl]

@Abhishek Triphati जी श्रीमद्भागवत के अनुसार वर्ण शंकर का अर्थ कुछ और है और अगर आप अपना व्हाट्सएप्प नम्बर दे तो मैं आपको उस पेज की फोटो भेज दूंगा । बाकी मतलब खुद समझ लेना ।

[@sarozkumar3939]

वर्ण संकर का अर्थ है स्वभाव का असंतुलन 👍🙏

[@chandermohan1134]

Whole this debate about Warna is undesireable as this was vehementally cancelled by this old fashioned republic and its western educated grossly foolish Macaulay children who replaced the warna with so many highly divisive constitutional questions of Jati/race, tribe, sect, dera, Hindu-muslim etc ., as also with a strange British theory of Martial Races and Non martial races {as per which theory, the said non-martial races are just a surplus lot of urban idlers and cowards) and still with another equally far-fetched British theory of Peasant tribes and land ownership. So far as Caste, it is totally a different word having nil or little relevance with India. Jai Sri Ram, Jai Sri Hanuman.

[@tejasa8429]

You should read in original Sanskrit not in translated version.

[@Devine_wave]

Varna is by birth only .these guys are justifying a social evil .nothing good in this hindu varna system .it is is a social evil .I myself a hindu and I'm ashamed of this system. Shame on these people for justifying or trying to say it is not by birth. It was always by birth.

[@sspunch9886]

I think varna is svabhaava, guna, aptitude and action based. A person’s varna can change in own’s lifetime. The duties are determined based on the varna the persons considers he is in and not determined by others.

[@nwstfd]

Subhash sir ko hriday se Pranam 🙏🙏

[@sushilpatel9429]

🙏🙏

[@SachinSharma-wq2ym]

Jai hind

[@sunilfauji]

Bahut badiya. Har Har Mahadev

[@paharipant2]

Bilkul galat salat vyakhya hai iss vishay par aaj. Varna toh janmjaat hi hota hai....arthat Brahmin, Kshatriya etc. janm se hi hota hai. BrahmaGyaan kisi ko bhi ho sakta hai parantu Varna janm se hi hota hai. Paramparik Vidwaano ka paksha bilkul सुदृढ़ hai and yahan kiya gaya khandan bahut disingenuous hai.

[@chandermohan1134]

Ho sakta hai ki warn janam-jaat ho, lekin pichhley 100 warshon sey constitutionally cancelled hai. Aaj kall jati ka bol baala hai. Jati Samvidhan ka sarvoch angg hai. Waise Firka, Kabila, dera, hindu muslim, martial races theory, peasant tribes theory bhee kuchh kamm nain hein. Jai Sri Ram.