STRANGE LIGHTS IN THE SKY | Pilots UFO Report at High Altitude

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[@VASAviation]

Sun reflections on clouds or satellites, asteroids maybe, aliens? What's your guess? EDIT: It's being awesome to read all your comments and observations. It's great to know there are many pilots here sharing their experiences. I have only observed other airplanes and a shooting star at FL390 once that I'll never forget. Hopefully I'll see one of these strange lights some time.

[@jimidennis22]

Enough to spook the pilots a bit.

[@IWBI71]

Always swamp gas 🤫

[@selftrue670]

I would suspect a sun reflection, perhaps off the 777's wing against the clouds. But, I wouldn't necessarily discount a UFO either.

[@JDizzle1589]

Talk to any of us who cross the north Atlantic regularly and we will tell you this same story. Happens often....

[@TheMcIke]

@@selftrue670 I was thinking the same; orange would probably be sunlight off the underside of another aircraft.

[@thomasairbuspilot]

“Disappointingly, we do not see an orange strobe *20,000 feet above us* “ 😂

[@ahndeux]

He was probably staring straight at it while it was blinking and said that. Sometimes, its better not to report so you won't have to go through drug testing.

[@tylerhasabike5043]

Made me chuckle too 😂

[@biosecurePM]

@@ahndeux Or he saw it but could not process the visual information. The UFOs can be selective in who can see them when you look through all the reports.

[@bro9479]

I've seen the same thing, twice. Once over Ohio and another time over the Gulf south of Louisiana. There were two or three, moving in coordination with each other it seemed. Fading in and out, getting very bright at times, and changing direction. They were a distance away but you could tell they were moving very fast. They were usually quite a bit higher, but at one point I saw it go below out altitude before fading out when we were out over the water.

[@jamesmorris913]

I saw something about 15yrs ago, that will be in my memory; forever. It was at about 5000' AGL, moving at about 100kts. I don't what it was..but I know what it WASN'T. I was not an airplane, a helicopter, a balloon ,a bird, a kite, a satellite, or a drone. It made no sound, whatsoever; and as close as it was, and as large as it was; it should have. There was absolutely no wind, and it was about 10:00 AM. I wasn't drunk, high, tired or ill. I'm nearly 70, now; and I've never seen anything like it in my life, before or since. If it was "our" technology..we have NOTHING to worry about, from possible hostile actions by foreign adversaries. If it was technology of a China, Russia, N.Korea, etc..they would have conquered or destroyed us...LONG AGO.

[@jtbDDOepMNNVIpk]

“Oh goodness” …. 😂

[@mikelp72]

I’ve seen similar recently. At FL430 from Cincinnati to Boise, over 3 hours flying time, the lights stayed above and in front of us. They danced around each other, alternated brighter and dimmer. Still no idea what we were seeing.

[@Grizzly461USMC]

Have seen the same flying on redeyes from LAX and PHX back to ATL generally while over NM for well over 200 miles of travel, all staying in the same relative position up to the north and seemingly at high altitude.

[@PilotTalalTJ]

I swear I (we) saw the same thing flying at night FL 310 over the Arabian Gulf Sea with exact same details! The way they move and high speed must be well over Mach 2 and high altitudes maybe FL 550 or more lastly the tight diagonal turns changing levels up and down with white bright spot light like is mind boggling for me!!! Actually I saw them many different occasions same region but way off different spots but I kept quiet thinking I’m going crazy, but last flight I saw them over the sea and the other pilot opened his mouth and asked me if I see this!!!!!

[@Designandrew]

why dont you guys whip your iphones out and get a video??

[@Designandrew]

why dont you film it with an iphone? better yet why not recreate what you saw, ie, its movements with an apple or orange, obviously not to scale but guve us an iea of how its moving, ans see if the other pilots agree with your recreation@@PilotTalalTJ

[@strategysoup8949]

Please take video next time!

[@anotheruser9876]

"All right, Beatrice, there was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus."

[@timmartin6035]

“…you kicked HIM out. Now you’re gonna go to town and get you a dress…maybe some shoes…and oh yeah hire a decorator NOW…cause this place? Damn!”

[@scottgibson807]

@@timmartin6035 hahaha. Nice.

[@GitzenShiggles]

By the way, the lemonade was delicious.

[@flyer45691]

😂😂😂😂

[@banon7853]

also and thank you VASAviation for sharing this. we need more people willing to do this. Us on our little humble abode here on earth need to wake up.

[@marklnz]

Here's something to think about as you "wake up": Assuming intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, how did it know we were here, how did it get here and why has it not made itself known to us? Think what humans would do if we discovered intelligent life on another planet...we know that there is no other intelligent life indigenous to our solar system, and therefore if there *is* something "out there", to visit us from their own home is an undertaking of such vast proportions as to be incredibly unlikely. The odds would say that surely you're right - we're not alone. Yet the same odds would say that the chances that they've managed to find us and visit us are vanishingly small.

[@banon7853]

@@marklnz I would say, as in the Contact movie, where one of the characters asked the same question, and astrophysicist do talk about that question, that because we have been radiating man-made modulated signals for the last 60 years or so, it’s like our planet suddenly turned on a lightbulb. Also, if our rudimentary radio telescopes and space telescopes can help intimate planets around distant suns, civilizations 1000, 10,000 100,000 years more advanced than us would easily be able to find us.

[@coolaidmedic5553]

@@banon7853 There are less than 700 stars that are within 60 light years of earth. All mark is saying is that the odds of intelligent life existing elsewhere is extremely high, but the odds that the lights we see in the sky are alien is very low. There are far more plausible answers.

[@banon7853]

@@coolaidmedic5553 it feels implausible because of how little we know. We’ve only really known electromagnetic theory for about 100 years. We can’t use gravity like we can use electromagnetism - that’s why it seems hard. What if we had 1000 or 10,000 years to figure it out instead of 100. And what most people don’t realize is that only one of these sightings, since we started documenting and socializing them, needs to be true. only one.

[@coolaidmedic5553]

@@banon7853 That could also be said for stories of ghosts, bigfoot, and angels. What is more likely: the lights are caused by a manmade or natural phenomenon which we do not yet understand, or the lights are caused by an alien species that flies around earth undetectable and does not contact us, and has the technology to overcome several laws of the universe that we currently understand. We cant just jump to "oh its probably aliens" just because we dont understand.

[@PilotTalalTJ]

I swear I (we) saw the same thing flying at night FL 310 over the Arabian Gulf Sea with exact same details! The way they move and high speed must be well over Mach 2 and high altitudes maybe FL 550 or more lastly the tight diagonal turns changing levels up and down with white bright spot light like is mind boggling for me!!! Actually I saw them many different occasions same region but way off different spots but I kept quiet thinking I’m going crazy, but last flight I saw them over the sea and the other pilot opened his mouth and asked me if I see this!!!!!

[@strategysoup8949]

I’ve read through the comments, and several pilots appear to have seen the same or similar UAPS. Try to get video next time, gentlemen and ladies! Glad this topics being covered.

[@execnav]

Many of us have taken video, myself included. The problem is, it's usually dark and few phones out there have the low light performance to capture anything useful. I think I have one on my channel. If not, I'll upload it tonight. It's a terrible capture though.

[@stab74]

@@execnav Cool!

[@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co]

I thought this was going to be the strange lights reported by multiple pilots north of Winnipeg a few days back.

[@VASAviation]

I got that one as well. Reported to me by one of the pilots.

[@jgrazzi]

All These Worlds Are Yours Except Europa Attempt No Landing There Use Them Together Use Them In Peace

[@MiksuPeksi]

Atleast some of these lights could be planets or stars. I checked from program called "Stellarium" that Saturn and Vega (birght star) are low on Winnipeg horizon at sunset. These can apear to be "strange lights". In any case, all observations of lights in the sky are interesting and should be investigated. When someone sees these lights they should first check from Google Sky Map or similar app if there is a known natural object in the direction of the light.

[@fn0rd-f5o]

I saw strange lights in the sky... but it was just the local casino.

[@Akbar_Friendly_in_Cherno]

Yes. This was also us. If you do not ask Lorraine to the Enchantment Under the Sea dance we will melt your brains

[@bluehorseshoe9216]

We've been seeing this a lot the last few years. I've seen it 3 times myself

[@slee7394]

Experienced same thing on Jan 19th at around 2000 local time south of MEM (probably was with memphis center). There were multiple same reports. My route was westbound from ATL.

[@lamsmiley1944]

I saw “something” on 27th Jan around 1830 AEDT, it was a white sphere moving east at altitude (it almost looked like a satellite but I’ve never seen a satellite in daylight). I checked to see if there were any weather balloons in the area but couldn’t find anything.

[@jonathangentile3447]

Houston Center told us that they were getting lots of reports of lights in the Little Rock area spring of last year.

[@kinkin1830]

@@lamsmiley1944they are referred to as “orbs” in the UAP community. I saw a white sphere last December probably around 1-3000AGL moving at a high rate of speed, they are being spotted all over the world at all altitudes.

[@GilangWardhana]

I've seen those things twice. Enroute eastbound from Bali to Sydney, at around 2am. Not only 1, they are like 3-4 uav blinking bright orange-white before vanished. After few seconds they become visible again, then disappeared. They flew very fast, i really mean fast, then it turned 90 degrees in direction, left right up down. My First Officer and I tried to filmed it but it was too dark.

[@SuperMrObserver]

Maybe light from afterburners

[@execnav]

I've been flying commercially for bout 20 years. I've done a lot of flying at night. Up until recently, I never saw anything out there and chuckled at anyone who ever asked about UFOs. Twice in the past few months, I've seen lights (usually 3 to 4) "orbiting" in a circular pattern high up in the atmosphere with no anti-collision lights, first heading east talking to Houston center and most recently, westbound talking to Minneapolis. The first was over Texas heading east at around 4am central, the lights were moving in and out from each other, occasionally crossing paths rapidly changing direction. The range in our windscreen was maybe 11 to 1 o'clock and it appeared at the same vertical angle for about 45 minutes, so it wasn't anything in our atmosphere as the viewing angle would've changed at least a little over 450 miles while multiple objects are formation flying and changing direction. Our groundspeed was about 550kts. The second occurrence was an identical formation at nearly midnight. So have fun explaining that one with the sun's reflection. No other pilots mentioned anything on the radio for the first but a United queried Minneapolis on the second and the controller kept responding with something along the lines of, "no we're not painting anything on (weather) radar", but never addressing the lights.

[@bro9479]

Yep, same here. I've seen them twice in the past 6 months.

[@roadkillavenger1325]

I caught some things flying across the sky in long exposure photography last year around midnight/1AM. They were side by side I ruled out planes and satellites for various reasons. They were something else. Skeptics kept trying to tell me they were satellites, but I kept reminding them that you can't see satellites at that time of night.

[@codyspangenberg8051]

Same exact thing for, over Texas as well. Like you said it’s very high altitude and fast speed. I would assume unmanned.

[@CC-br9qg]

Starlink

[@karend1577]

Okay. My theory is that due to international uneasiness (Moscow, Ukraine, Palestine, Israel), the US is testing their secret warcraft. Lately, North Korea (and China?) have been sending out missiles periodically in the past few months. So maybe it's a top secret aircraft?

[@CANFlight]

NORAD just posted air traffic control feed recently of multiple aircraft reporting a triangular pattern of lights moving rapidly at about 60,000ft around Winnipeg and across the prairies overnight.

[@coolaidmedic5553]

link?

[@algernonftw42]

Pilot seemed pretty convinced he saw it change directions on a dime, and rapidly ascend. Starlink does often appear to strobe, but there's many of them and they hold position. This sounds like something else.

[@miguelr1784]

I've seen the starlink, but that's a lot of satellites running in trail. Very impressive tho

[@TrekzoneMedia]

sounds like he saw it change on a dollar or a cent ;)

[@vbscript2]

Starlink does not hold position (they're in orbit and not geostationary,) but they also definitely don't do 180s (nor does any other satellite.)

[@fromtheflightdeck252]

Russia has recently put nuclear weapons in space, there are often UFOs around nuclear sites like around the silos in the past. There will probably be a big announcement about a national defense emergency as the US has nothing similar to match this threat at the present time.

[@jwm6314]

Starlink isn't geostationary. They rise and fall in a low earth orbit and while satellites can look fast, they don't do anything like what he reported.

[@XetraRewop]

The “switching directions” is usually 2 or 3 star link chains passing each other. The first time I saw the “light dance” it sure looked like circling UFOs. But after watching for a bit you could see the chains. But I also have seen lights that were clearly not airplanes, starlink, satellites or meteorites.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

flashing an orange light, doing a 180, going from 1 coast to another in 1 second? nice try fed

[@GPenn09]

I agree. While camping, in just about the same spot in the sky I've seen dancing lights. Going dim, appearing nearby, giving the illusion it's the same objects. I'm virtually certain it's intersecting satellite chains that reflect the sun for moments at just that small section of the sky. It's why all these pilot reports have them staying in the same section/ angles in the sky, coincidentally with the sun below the horizon in that direction. Pilots should familiarize themselves with satellite tracking apps that use phone accelerometers to point the right way. It's possible their speed and altitude make them less accurate though.

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

@GPenn09 if pilots are gonna radio something possibly risking their career I'm gonna take a safe guess and say they know it's not a satellite

[@bitcoinyoda8321]

@@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing no, that´s swamp gas

[@UnderGroundPhishers]

I work at a center, I won't say which, but on guard a few days ago a couple GA guys were talking about some weird UAP sighting in broad daylight. Everyone was kind of asking eachothers positions and what not trying to deduce the information but it turned out they couldn't explain it. Weird stuff.

[@jonahfinademz8646]

That is unusual. I wonder what it was.

[@DouglasTechReviews]

good sighting and handled professionally and well by all involved no x-files music is a nice thing to see as well

[@tfaudree]

I’ve seen something three times now; three lights, two of them orbiting around the center one, with the two outer ones becoming brighter and dimmer throughout their orbit. WAAAAAY higher than any aircraft flies.

[@chaseehrgott3313]

Airline pilot here. Been seeing these for the last 3 months. Saw some over Boston 2 weeks ago. Have some decent videos if you guys are curious

[@matthewdoll1110]

You should upload them to your channel!

[@marks4058]

Heck yes! Please upload

[@shaunasingh9353]

I saw the same over DC!

[@lex1945]

I've been doing grave yard shifts for 30 years and i've seen many strange things in our atmosphere or skies that couldn't be explained. Sometimes it looked like debris falling down from space, but sometimes i've seen planes that flew silent and went incredibly fast, faster than anything i've ever seen. I've also seen strobes in the sky, moving at crazy speeds or making incredible manoeuvres. What is is? Dunno, but there's lots of things we don;t know about, both human made or from outer space.

[@avlisk]

One night, I watched a "star" do a zig-zag pattern for a couple of minutes until it got so far away I couldn't see it any more. That was outside of Flagstaff, AZ. in 1997. Haven't seen anything since.

[@akiko009]

Flying between RNO and LAS one gets to see stuff every now and then. But so far it's all been of obvious terrestrial origin.

[@ChrisSnowFox]

I saw similar on my flight to Fernadina Beach around 5,500 feet (target was ~4,500 and 11 ‘o clock with me being on a heading of 335*). Bright orange glow through the haze and seemed stationary in the sky.

[@BoeingJetJockey]

Flying airliners for 30+ years. I have seen some weird things a few times. Once, a strange orange object, turn out to be the moon with some unusual clouds and/or reflections effects. Another time, strange light moving so fast at dawn. Later found out in the TV news after I woke up that afternoon that Japan JAXA had just launched a rocket on that very morning. So no UFO sighting yet. Darn it! Just a few more years left before I retire…hope I see something worthy to tell my grand son.

[@blancolirio]

Starlink. 2 different satellites, 2 different orbits.

[@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere]

The controllers mildly shocked voice to Piedmont's request as he damn well knows the Aurora's out flying tonight.

[@ahndeux]

Yeah, but something in me thinks the Auroras can't do 180 degree turns in mere seconds at those speeds. It's just a hunch.

[@patrickinottawa27]

I can't remember the Astronomer's name. It was two or three decades ago. He said something to the effect "if you think the entire universe was created just for us, a tiny planet on the spiral arm in a single galaxy, then you must be pretty self-centered and vain".

[@Whoiam146]

Because they saw it in their own eyes, but then the government doesn't want us to know because of the religion. The United States is based on God since day one - Declaration of Independence. God created us. That's what they want us to believe. 😂

[@coolaidmedic5553]

Odds that aliens exist: extremely high. Odds that aliens are the explanation for the lights we see in the sky: very low.

[@free_spirit1]

​@@coolaidmedic5553I wish I could live my life with your level of confidence when it comes to speculating on matters we know absolutely nothing about.

[@chatchaweewong1071]

The thruth is out there...

[@sixpackpilot]

Indeed...but what truth: a Chinese or an American truth, a balloon-shaped truth, a burning-up-piece-of-rock kind of truth, atmospheric phenomenon or something even more out of this world. Let's add it to the pile of UAP reports, add a few thousand more reports, then maybe AI machine learning can find us some kind of pattern when laid next to weather logs, aircraft activity, space craft orbits, anything...

[@braedan51]

I want to believe.

[@redcapote4760]

@@braedan51 You stole the words right out of my mouth. :)

[@TheCarnivalguy]

You can’t handle the truth! 😉

[@ald1144]

Mulder, is that you?

[@n0jy]

The most interesting thing to me, is the way the story/description changed each time it got relayed controller to controller, and lastly to the AAL. Not that they did anything specifically wrong as far as ATC, I would expect a bit more accuracy unless it were seen as so "crazy" that it was not given any credence. In the UFO phenomenon in general it may be easy to see how an initial sighting gets lost in the inability to describe beyond interpretation what actually occurred, making the number of crazy sightings water down the actual. Anyway I've never seen one that wasn't an airplane but I've seen airplanes that could have been thought to be a UFO by someone who had no external idea of what they do and especially look like with lights on approach especially around dusk. OTOH they are all UFOs until I determine that they are an airplane, right?

[@chaitanyak4455]

I have seen the same thing over middle east enroute towards Asia. Lights moving in all directions. Have been flying for close to 1.5 decades but never seen anything similar. I am a Captain with a middle eastern International carrier.

[@vincentr4190]

Been hearing about this on guard quite a bit about 2 months ago or so... People will say star link or meteors, but the fact is it switches directions, disappears, then reappears... Starlink goes a straight line only and becomes invisible once in the Earth's shadow, you won't see it more than 2 hours after sunset because of that, yet I would hear about those sightings some 4 hours into the night... Have yet to see it sadly I was in IMC going the opposite direction when guard would light up

[@lamsmiley1944]

I see starlink all the time at night, they’re easily identifiable as satellites.

[@n003lb]

My brother and I have been seeing strange lights like this almost every morning around 0400 over Kansas City. Orange-ish colored lights that randomly appear and disappear, and some appear to be maneuvering. Most logical explanation is its satellites, but I've used various sources to try to locate satellites in the area and can't find any that correspond to what we're seeing. Additionally, I've seen a few that were moving north or south, then literally stop and start moving straight down or up without any brightness change. I've also seen a couple that were clearly turning as they moved. Satellites on different trajectories would both still be visible in those situations. We are west of KC seeing these, so the sun is not far below the horizon. I'm hard pressed to explain it with anything other than satellites, but it just doesn't fit.

[@lucasporte4067]

From where I live here in the Southeast of Brazil, I see a lot of lights coming E to W and W to E always between 1145PM to 01:00AM. It always happens, have tons of video material of it. It's definitely satellites reflecting sunlight, don't even overthink it anymore.

[@SQK1261]

Allot of starlink sightings recently.

[@GRosa250]

A few years ago I saw a blueish green orb come straight down extremely fast and into a lake without making a splash. Most bizarre thing I’ve ever seen.

[@SuperMrObserver]

Also saw 3 of these bright yellow orange lights somewhere above northern Italy about 2 months ago, looked sometimes as being above FL500, moving up down left right at a quite fast pace, reported to the ATC they said no military activity they knew of.. another aircraft also reported seeing the same lights, said looked like afterburners, lasted about 30-40min. Slowly came into existence and became brighter, then faded away.

[@TheFlyingKiwiNZ]

Yep been seeing them around the pacific islands and tasman, nz and Australia

[@rudiklein]

"It looks like I've pick the wrong week to quit sniffing glue."

[@cherokeerookie]

The family and I encountered a translucent segmented sphere about 30-50ft in diameter outpacing a southwest jet. We were on the departure phase and the sw jet was on approach

[@davidbelcastro4438]

I see them every time I fly into US. Definitely way up north, no way to estimate altitude or distance, but circular patterns, bright as a welding torch dancing round each other. I’ve got pictures from iPhone but video is not light sensitive enough. I know we’re not crazy and that everybody is seeing the same thing. Maybe a few reports may bring forth what they actually are.

[@l_mene_]

I got two really strange videos , once was from my go pro during night rating , I was on short final and than I recorded a very fast white light crossing the sky. Second a my airline pilot friend sent me a video of an object during night which was changing in some bright colors but on radar there was nothing

[@luke6575]

Dash cams in planes are needed😊

[@A.J.1656]

As long as they don't have microphones. lol

[@jakeoesterreich8037]

@@A.J.1656there are already many recording devices in aircraft cockpits today

[@imzanky6321]

@@A.J.1656 Audio recorder already in the cockpit.

[@A.J.1656]

@@jakeoesterreich8037 There's one. Nobody knows what we talk about unless there's a reason to go back and pull the voice data from the DVDR.

[@A.J.1656]

@@imzanky6321 I know we have one. And nobody pulls the last 25 hours of voice recordings if you see a UFO. Duh.

[@axelust]

It is quite common to see flashing lights in the night sky, especially before dawn. Once I was flying over Kazakhstan and saw how in one part of the sky, at an altitude of about 60 km, there was a bright flash of a star, then again, but in another part of the sky in the east. Then there were a lot of them and they began to blink chaotically and fly across the sky. At the end of the performance, one of them began to strobe and disappeared. Then they disappeared. I, the commander and the flight attendant saw it. This is definitely not Starlink and not of earthly origin

[@George-xb5ey]

I've seen the sky light up in two very fast flashes of green color just before sunrise still dark out very peculiar indeed.

[@allangillis2033]

Saw something that was a lot like what he describes several years ago from the ground to the north east in Nova Scotia. When did this happen?

[@Megalomaniac2005]

Maybe something related to space flight somewhere? If you go pretty much to the east from Boston you reach Kazachstan, whete Russian capsules used to land. Also, the plasma cloud forming around a ship or capsule on re- entry would be of a soft orange color and flickering.

[@EssaAlshammari-r9e]

That’s a Cessna 172 doing power on stalls

[@lamsmiley1944]

At 40,000 above their flight ceiling, impressive.

[@EssaAlshammari-r9e]

@@lamsmiley1944 yeah , I’ve always done it when I was doing my PPL

[@SpatchcockRat]

About 15 years ago one summer, I was sitting in the garden looking up and saw a small white object slowly zigzag side to side heading SW. It was a very regular zigzag and I initially thought it was a Seagull or a Swan, but then I realised it was much too high. I’m an amateur astronomer with a 10” reflector so I quickly set it up, but all I saw was a white blob, no wings, etc. After a good 5 minutes, it shot off directly West. I’m used to seeing satellites, and the space station, but this was way faster. From being directly overhead to vanishing to the East was under a second.

[@Lanes100]

They just saw something like this in canada, manitoba if im not mistaken

[@donQpublic]

The stigma behind reporting these sightings needs to be curtailed so pilots do not feel uncomfortable reporting UAP.

[@rustymustard7798]

Apparently bright orange flashing lights are a better offensive capability than stealth. If it DID look like aircraft lights ATC would be doing everything they can to get them to 'copy a phone number' lol. But an out of place bright orange flashing thing? Must be nothing.

[@MeppyMan]

Don’t help that all the crazies immediately assume it’s aliens and that politicians and the news are entertaining the rantings of charlatans about it.

[@jameshoekzema3172]

I had seen the star link line of lights last summer for the first time, was interesting

[@TWCHHK]

I was flying west of New York northeast-wards shortly before sunrise. We were cruising at FL410 and saw bright lights as well to the north-northeast. Erratic movements and very high in the sky. For sure no satellites due to the way the lights were moving. In the past year flying across the atlantic, I've seen such strange light sources on multiple occasions. Everytime shortly before sunrise in a north-northeasterly direction.

[@ohayitsbrad7682]

His bose headset is running low on battery and flashing orange!

[@jchapman1351]

Nearly a nightly occurrence and I’ve seen it 3 times. Always going west for me.

[@WS-nv6cp]

Pretty much every night a few days after starlink satellite launches. We'll get reports for a half hour or so.

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

One of our pastimes when doing an overnighter fishing during the summer is to take our beds out of the bivvy and lie out under the stars, satellite-spotting...(we live on the west coast of Ireland about 50 miles from the Atlantic ocean and theres zero light pollution where we go fishing...) One particular night, we were gazing upwards when my friend said "look at those 2 sats one looks like its following the other" ... me and the other guy saw them.. and as we watched the lead "satellite" turned a SHARP 90° !!... the second one did the same also !!! We ALL saw it !!... No.. there was no alcohol or anything else involved either .. 🙄😂 I don't care what anyone says, we are definitely not alone... BTW , as a machinist I have my head pretty well screwed on , as do the other guys, we're not new-age freaks or anythin... 😄

[@the_listamin]

There still could have been another satellite or piece of space junk moving perpendicular to the original piece, and the second one just began reflecting when the first one stopped. Flares like this are well documented and can even be calculated beforehand, there is a website somewhere for this purpose. I have no idea what you were seeing though, as I haven't seen it.

[@DrMackSplackem]

@@the_listamin There used to be one (heavens-above). It would even tell you direction and distance to the flare center, but since the Iridiums have been decommissioned their flares are no longer predictable, sadly. I still see them from time to time.

[@jaxonboys3366]

I was on the beach at Myrtle Beach sc about 30-45 min after sunset. I had 3 pastel blue colored lights about 1/2 mile out at 2000 ft come on slowly in a triangle formation. There was no object(s) I could see making the lights. They then each in turn switched to a pastel orange then faded out. The sky was clear and lit up enough to have seen an object(s) and there were none. It was also not foggy or hazy enough to make a projection from land. If it matters, I too am a retired commercial and military pilot. Pretty versed at spotting and identifying objects in the sky. Myrtle Beach seems to be a hot spot of sorts for such phenomenon.

[@jonathangentile3447]

Saw something similar, looked like one object moving up and down and another horizontally back and forth. Star-link was the only plausible explanation I could think of 🤷‍♂️ but it was odd looking. We were about 100-150 miles north of Houston with the objects off to the north east of us. Another aircraft reported seeing the same thing and ATC told us they had been getting similar reports for past couple of months or so. 4/4/2023 ~ 0320 local.

[@MiksuPeksi]

It might have been a meteor. They can go very fast, blink and change colour. Also if meteor comes in very low angle to earth's atmosphere it can actually bounce back to space like a rock skipping along water surface. That would explain it going up higher.

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

... and he also said it made a 180° ??

[@CharlieTheAstronaut]

Unlikely, the layer of atmosphere that incoming objects can bounce off of at about 85Km ASL, so a lot higher, and more importantly, they mentioned a 180-degree change in direction.

[@jonesjones7057]

But, meteors don't pull 180 degree turns at all, let alone instantly.

[@omgsrsly]

@@CharlieTheAstronaut The rebound could have looked like a 180 even if it wasn't. It's just a matter of perspective. Imagine the meteor entering the atmosphere right in front of you aiming at a point on the ground below your aircraft. This would draw a line from top to bottom. As it is then repelled upwards again at a slower speed but also at a much steeper angle (in relation to your viewpoint) this whole sequence could look like an object travelling at an almost contant velocity while quickly turning in the opposite direction.

[@CharlieTheAstronaut]

@@omgsrsly@omgsrsly, I am not sure you fully grasp what they mean by "bouncing off of the atmosphere". We are talking extremely shallow angles at extremely high altitudes and speeds, but at those distances that would not be the kind of speed they mentioned. I get your way of thinking; it just does not make a lot of sense in this scenario. You also have the fact that it went back and forth, stopped, and all of that over a longer period of time :)

[@deviljhoo1090]

I believe him. On my second solo cross country as a student pilot, I saw a metallic sphere following a jetblue airplane, they were crossing from my 9 o'clock to my 3 o'clock at about 2000ft above me. The most interesting thing, is that day there were turbulence and that thing wasn't getting affected by it, not even the wake turbulence from the airplane, since it was behind the airplane.

[@paulsherman51]

"... there's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow ..."

[@arkiefyler]

With literally thousands of Starlink satellites in orbit it is becoming quite easy to see them at certain times of the night. They are quite often being lit the Sun while the observer is in night time. There are several app/sites that can provide aid in identifying an object orbiting Earth. Perhaps they will soon become part of a pilots electronic flight kit! 😄

[@AAAskeet]

Agreed.Reflected satellites seems most likely.

[@DernFool]

How does a 'satellite' maintain its speed and altitude? Gravity is pulling it down to the ground...what is opposing gravity...Reminder...speed is not a force and momentum decreases to zero in an air or air-less environment....

[@arkiefyler]

@@DernFool Try a search on "orbital mechanics".

[@tayothirtythree]

It's gotta be the swamp gas reflecting off Venus

[@paulsherman51]

does gas from Uranus travel faster than the speed of light?

[@rustymustard7798]

If they DID look like aircraft lights the controllers would be relentlessly hunting down the pilot who busted airspace to give them a number to call. But a bright orange out of place thing? Oh, must be nothing.

[@boahneelassmal]

Meanwhile the flightattendant with a red laserpointer shinging through the spy hole of the cockpit door causing a reflection in the windshield: laughing their asses of....

[@JoshuaCasey]

i would hope that anyone that immature is not a flight attendant

[@boahneelassmal]

@@JoshuaCasey for crying out loud, do we really need /s here now as well?! I had hoped the audience of this channel could be held to a higher standard than reddit....

[@ScortchedYFronts]

Where was American 2689 in this radar screen/depiction?

[@ewathoughts8476]

Sounds like the Australians are eating those fermented Vegemite sandwiches again.

[@krayzeekev]

Something in the cockpit behind them reflecting back off the front?

[@frylucas]

Oh wow, this is chilling... I actually witnessed the exact same thing 15 years ago. I was in a relative's home, and on the night, I decided to walk up to the roof to watch the stars and maybe see some planes pass by (they live by a major cargo airport in my country), when all out of sudden this flashing red or orange strobe light comes into my vision, going from East to West; it was travelling extraordinarly fast, and just like how this flight crew reported, it suddenly did a complete 180° turn in a dime, before it returned from where it came from and disappearing in the horizon. I never knew what that was, I'm not saying it's UFO or aliens, but it definitely wasn't a plane, even my much younger self then could tell it was physically impossible for a plane to make a turn like that. To think these guys got super close to whatever that was... must've been quite the experience!

[@jamescraig4479]

They said it was 60 to 80 miles away... not super close...

[@frylucas]

@@jamescraig4479 That is still a lot closer than what I experienced, heh!

[@johnwelborn669]

It's Starlink, I've been flying the same route to both AMA and LBB the last few weeks thought it was a meteor shower for a while until it happened every night dim to eventually bright light moving east to west in constant intervals

[@VASAviation]

Must have been awesome to witness

[@TheSpaceCoyote1]

Nah man. This is something else

[@Flysh24]

@@TheSpaceCoyote1 it’s starlink flares. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZmzoI14gb13rJosi=zUgZKy4_HopsJygC

[@johnwelborn669]

@@VASAviation it was until you start thinking that if its meteors with no trails then It means they are coming right for you, and the small jungle jet can't survive normal shit let alone a meteor, so finding out it was starlink was a welcome alternative

[@CBTheMechanic]

I doubt it's starlink. I saw the exact same (!) phenomenon from the ground one summer night and even took pictures. That was in 2017 and as far as I know starlink wasn't launched back then.

[@rohan-ghosh]

An alien equipment will never have any lights or strobe lights on if its coming to earth, so this was interesting.

[@bjg09e]

Seems like you know more than you are letting on.... Do tell!

[@banon7853]

we need to realize they are NOT BLINKING. if one can move VERY fast away from you and then towards you, you will perceive it as blinking but what is actually happening is that the 'object' is moving away so fast that it dims out. then when it comes towards you its light gets brighter. if they are observant, they might be able to see the color shift when the object is going away from them fast versus coming at them fast. that 'red and blue' shift is the Doppler effect.

[@isaacarnold4635]

My guess is satellite(s). I saw an Iridium satellite flare once, it was really something. I've heard others say they've seen flashes in the sky when viewing sunsets. That doesn't explain the fast motion, though. Still my guess is satellites.

[@redcapote4760]

Satellites orbit at many hundreds of miles above the earth, as in 500,000 feet to 2,000,000 feet above the earth, not 28,000 ft. And they don't change altitude instantly. Let's use our noggins, people.

[@johnthaxton6278]

Judging altitudes and distances at night visually is wildly inaccurate. 28000…50000…60-80 miles. Giant margin for error in those estimates

[@redcapote4760]

@@johnthaxton6278 And while that may be true, that it could have been 30-40 miles away at 20-80k feet of elevation, it's hard to mistake 45k feet for 800,000 ft.

[@CptJakeA]

I was flying at 12,000 one time when I saw a bright streak of green fly right in front of me (it seemed). It scared me because I thought it was an aircraft or something, but turns out it was just a shooting star or something.

[@SC-dp1gv]

Every night I fly we see white lights in front of us that last about 5/6 seconds and then disappear…not airplanes, they are at about fl 300/500, a lot when we fly towards white sands but they are all over the country. No idea of what they are but I can say that that’s always a hot topic on 121.5

[@tres311]

My ex wife’s sister was a flight attendant in Asia, I asked her to ask the pilots if they ever seen UFOs. She scoffed at the premise, but then later asked and pressed them on it, and they said “OH Yeah! They’re told to not discuss it really because of the taboo associated with it but multiple pilots told her they’ve seen things that can’t be explained by conventional aircrafts

[@JoeSmith-ig3pr]

Do you know their position? Were they over Mass?

[@robertmillwee6409]

Air East 31 do wish to file a report?

[@sciencoking]

"AAL2698, do you see any UFOs?" "What?" "Nevermind"

[@vbscript2]

I wonder whether this could have been something in the flight deck reflecting on the windscreen.

[@challenger2ultralightadventure]

A "foo fighter"!?

[@ShatzMatz]

You would think one of these pilots world whip out their cell phones and shoot some footage.

[@Chasedtuna9]

Well, they would be in some serious trouble if they did, seeing as personal electronic devices are not allowed in the cockpit during flight...

[@thomasaltruda]

@@Chasedtuna9really? Can you quote the regulation prohibiting this? As an alternative, they could use their company issued, and FAA approved IPads.. (there isn’t any prohibition on portable electronic devices in the cockpit, he’s confused, there is a prohibition against unauthorized Wi-Fi devices though)

[@Acrowat40]

Phone cameras are pretty pants at night capturing small details outside at night.

[@moconnell663]

You can't even take a decent photo of the moon with your phone, let alone something small.

[@backandforthupanddow]

@@thomasaltrudaum, my 121 airline prohibits the use of portable electronic devices in the cockpit. In fact, it’s on the before start checklist. Issued iPads are only to be used for flight related duties. It’s in print. Ops specs. Pull an iPhone out and start reading text messages with an faa inspector and company check airman in the jump seat, you’d hear about it. That being said, I can all but guarantee they whipped out their phones and tried taking pictures/videos. Like someone else mentioned, they rarely turn out as good as what you’re seeing in real life. Especially at night.

[@kimsmoke17]

Piedmont chose the wrong day to quit sniffing glue 😮

[@rnav36]

Yeah we've been seeing these weird lights lately. I used to think they were Starlink satellites. But the way they abruptly change directions always gets me confused. You'll usually see them just after sunset, or just before sunrise, towards the direction of where the sun is.

[@haphazard1342]

That definitely seems like satellites. At low orbit, they're far enough above aircraft that they will catch the orange light of the dawn/dusk sun before the pilot.

[@rnav36]

@@haphazard1342 yeah the angle of reflection and the appearance definitely look like satellites. But I didn't think they could change directions so quickly in space. I've seen countless satellites before, where they just travel in a straight line as usual, these are something else. Like the others are saying, changing trajectory in space requires a LOT of energy, and these things make abrupt direction changes. Definitely some kind of technology the public doesn't know about.

[@Rag3Again]

Very important solar mass ejections and flares those days. Something related ?

[@MichaelPittmanJr.]

Intelligent Plasma. There was a research study recently

[@vinayjb007]

I wish the pilots would just whip out their phone and shoot a video of it for others to inspect.

[@Acrowat40]

Phone cameras are terrible at night unfortunately - especially in a dark cockpit with switch lights etc

[@lamsmiley1944]

Maybe try filming a plane at 20,000 feet and a significant distance away. Even with a professional camera unless you have perfect conditions you wouldn’t see anything.

[@davidmartin123]

Perhaps the Starlink satellite explanation provides plausible deniability of what's really out there.

[@davidclaiborne5280]

Foo fighters.

[@TimTVOfficial]

I've heard of other situations where pilots saw something like that, but it's too bad when there's no one else to help validate it. I've seen something similar looking up from the ground and thought they were drones with RGB lights, but they didn't have that buzzing sound, and there were several, like 8-10, and I wasn't the only one who saw them in this case. Maybe Chinese spy balloons, lol.

[@MikeB0001]

NCC-1701

[@JoshBenore]

Sir, constitution class vessels are not allowed on this frequency.

[@_Breakdown]

Wow.

[@1320fastback]

Probably Starlinks acting like the old Iridium Flare satellites.

[@NETBotic]

How would that "do a 180"?

[@terrymeadows2384]

Definitely the Borg.

[@owenmerrick2377]

Swamp gas reflecting off Venus. Did both crew see the lights? Being stuck in 3 dimensions doesn't help.

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

Sounded like 2 different voices reporting it...

[@redheads604]

the truth is out there!!!

[@paulsherman51]

So many people believe the Earth is flat, too.

[@EdgeRatedR007]

I always point people to Mick West's youtube channel when it comes to these UAW videos because people (including pilots) are too biased in their conclusions or, even worse, they are griefters like the people pushing the Navy story from 20 years ago in the media.

[@doctortmd]

Mick West's explanations are laughable to anyone who knows anything about aviation or physics

[@EdgeRatedR007]

@@doctortmd Obviously you haven't bothered to watch his videos. What is laughable though is pilots who confuse things like Starlink satellites with alien aircraft and Mick goes to great extent to pin point the very satellite they saw with the exact date and location. Those who are supposed to know about avionics apparently fail to grasp that fact.

[@mostlypostie1]

They didn't have a phone handy to take a video? If I had to guess, I would say this Aussie pilot was given a dare from his mates to make it onto the VASAviation channel.. lol

[@alexstrazza4068]

I’m surprised he didn’t say it was the size of a house cat lol

[@rickrickard2788]

That ATC needs to watch "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" a few times, so he can respond properly... ... "Oh Goodness"?... lol.

[@gamingthemarket]

The Intl. Space Station (ISS) will get your attention, especially after sunset. You are in the dark and it is the biggest, brightest, fastest thing in the sky. When it passes overhead, it can appear to phase shift like a Romulan cloaked ship. Horizon to horizon before you can process what happened.