Could Geeta Even Become Champion?

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[@ff10fire666]

With Geeta's team and treatment of her employees how the hell did she get this position? At least Nemona feels like a powerful trainer unlike Geeta

[@owenbridgers]

She’s the Chairwoman she probably just put herself on the Top because she could

[@ff10fire666]

@@owenbridgers That makes so much sense, she used her position as head of the academy and basically bought her way to the top.

[@talenstout8324]

SHE DOESN’T TREAT HER EMPLOYEES BAD, LIKE OVERWORKING LARRY, HE’S GOTTA MAKE MONEY SOMEHOW.

[@megdegray8295]

Part of me just wonders if she's hold the position for now. Maybe she's planning on passing Top Champion off to Nemona or the MC once they graduate? She'll still be chairwoman of the league + school too... Only reason I think this is a possibility is how she speaks of Nemona and the MC. They can already do some champion duties, too.

[@Zakurako]

To be fair, Nemona's the final boss of the league part of the story. Geeta was doomed to be unimpressive the moment it was decides that she wouldnt even be the final boss of that section of the game.

[@Cat.In.A.Wig.]

Something I think would be fun is if Geeta led with a Palafin, then was coded to switch it into Glimmora on the first turn. Not only would this make for a brutally powerful ace Pokémon, but Glimmora would likely switch into an attack and get up toxic spikes. That alone would make the fight far more difficult.

[@VaskoGames]

This is exactly what I was thinking too!

[@ALEXXXXX3]

Give her arcues

[@rayyaninspookymonth1630]

That's literally two of the suggestions that deadbedspread made on his short

[@wasperfly]

​@@rayyaninspookymonth1630 Yeah because it's the two most obvious changes.

[@OriginalGameteer]

Plus I feel like having the stereotypical superhero themed pokemon would make a ton of sense if she's seen as a "big good" figure by the regions people

[@LoganWH8]

In other regions (other than Galar), gym leaders and other trainers don’t really talk about the champion, and when they do, they usually have good things to say. When they talk about Lance or Alder, they talk about them with reverence for their status and power. Trainers discuss Steven and Cynthia like they’re the coolest, most interesting people alive, and always in awe of their talent and dedication. The worst anyone has to say about them is when an elite 4 member mentions their frustration at always being a step behind. And in Galar, where the champion is the only thing anybody ever talks about, they all treat Leon like Lebron James, Elvis, and Jesus rolled into one. But Geeta? People talk about Geeta all the time, and it’s almost always negative. The only person who ever says anything nice about her is Nemona, who has a positive attitude toward everything.

[@floatingf8783]

Lance, Steven, Cynthia, Alder, and Leon are also simply interesting as characters while Geeta isn't.

[@zamaskowany12]

@@floatingf8783 I like how everyone forgot about Diantha who's just as bad as Geeta

[@phoxess]

​@@zamaskowany12Kalos league was levels upon this one,, and then do we want to compare Mega Gardevoir with Glimmora, speaking about aces? They are not even close, beside personal tastes. Is Diantha better AS A CHARACTER? No, absolutely not

[@Katharoni]

Her theme is also ICONIC @@phoxess

[@colbaltmind5696]

​​@@zamaskowany12diantha at least was an interesting character. Unlike most champions Diantha is very casual about it and even mentions it like it's a hobby which is interesting compared to most champions who make it their entire lives. She's also pretty chill and the fact that she's an actress is pretty interesting. I like that she's a classy lady who is very talented and doesn't bother or pester me with random chores and talking to me randomly like Cynthia or Lance. And Nemona is different in her pestering because at least she's nice and silly and is more of my friend than my rival. Also like Diantha has a really good team unlike Geeta. The reason why Diantha was so easy was because the leveling curve was absolutely insane where you could be levels above everyone without rare candy or anything bc of the experience share as well as the fact that the fairy type is absolutely broken, especially in its introduction games.

[@MultiZernez]

Thing is geeta’s team isn’t bad it’s just what order her pokemon are in. literally has a setup mon as her last pokemon

[@XenithShadow]

Well that more related to glimora being her ace, and the terastalise gimick. This mean glimora cant be sent in till she has no pokemon left (aside from phasing moves maybe). So she can give her quote as she terastalise her final pokemon.

[@hamdepaf6686]

@@XenithShadow huh, didn't know Cynthias doesn't have an ace pokemon, since she sends them out in whatever order. Even tho she is famous for her Garchomp and her design suggests Lucario might have been meant as her ace... But yea, sarcasm asside, there is no reason to not send out Glimmora first and either Terastralize it immedeatly or do a Terrastralize on Kingambit as the last pokemon. While Geeta's team isn't the strongest, if her battle AI (I count the order in which pokemon are send out as well under this, cause that is pretty much down to the AI) where better and she could use some potions, like many other champs. She would pose a considerably bigger threat.

[@F14thunderhawk]

@@hamdepaf6686 Cynthea does have an ace, its just that only BDSP actually make her use it as a traditional ace instead of using it correctly which is your Ace will pull the duties it is most capable of and is your widest threat on the team. playing Pokemon Infinite Fusions with a fully engineered team helps a ton with understanding how Aces work.

[@hamdepaf6686]

@@F14thunderhawk you clearly didn't understand my sarcasm...

[@sirensoulegaming4158]

@@XenithShadow This is a weaksauce argument. I kinda feel that a trainer who supposedly is "incapable of holding back" wouldn't just leave their ace for last... they'd break it out and show they mean business, straight up. Surely.

[@SerDerpish]

Here’s a worldbuilding plothole I recently realized: if every champion-rank trainer has to complete the champion assessment to earn it, that means that the “Top” Champion has canonically lost to every other Champion trainer

[@emotionalkryptonite1161]

I just realized something: Of course Geeta's team isn't built to defeat the current gym challenge. All of the gyms got changed like a year and a half ago, likely after she was also the Top Champion. The only people she's had to fight before in her own regions league was her Elite Four, since she personally recruited all of them.

[@haidynwendlandt2479]

Yeah but she lost bad to Larry, you think that Larry wouldn’t use Normal types back when Geeta recruited him?

[@mjm3091]

She fights gym leaders every now and then though. And it is important to mention that she is hardcore Chairwoman - she requires everyone to be top notch, which is probably also the reason why she is weak in comparison to them.

[@JayceCH.]

Also realize that her team beats Nemona aka the Victory Road aka becoming a Champion. So yes, Geeta can become a champion. This video's conclusion itself is gaslighting you.

[@umayle07]

Stop fanboy

[@TheOwneroftheIC]

@@haidynwendlandt2479 That's why she forced him to use flying types.

[@JulianCaesaro]

Geeta saying “I am utterly incapable” is hilarious, especially because of being added text 🤣😂

[@crimsonmaelstrom573]

She wasn’t wrong though 😂😂

[@justin4203]

The problem is, Paldea is a region without a lot of really strong trainers. They seem to still be early on in their pokemon league, with the Elite 4 having to be roped into doing the job. The whole pokemon league serves as a test for trainers to become champion ranked (not champion), potentially because Geeta needs to find capable trainers to become a new Elite 4 and a real champion. I mean most trainers give up before their 6th badge, and Larry has to do double duty between gym leader and elite 4 member. Even the gym leaders mostly all have day jobs. I feel like the future of Paldea is an entirely new elite 4 and champion for a league that isn't in the early stages. (Which paldea appears to be) Probably with Nemona as champion (Player character is like Red, and just retires). With Eri, Larry and I'm not sure who else as the rest of the Elite 4, and one of Team Star taking over Larry's gym. (Allowing the poor man to take it easy) Geeta's team is fine (though I'd probably replace Avalugg), but the problem is her order. Kingambit should be last, and Glimmora should be second. (Espathra still first to counter setup with Opportunist.)

[@shadowmetroid18]

I think her team does a poor job showcasing paldea for the most part. Most champions don't have native teams (looking at leon with charizard as an ace) but the only pokemon she uses that I think represents the region well are kingambit and Glimmora. Imo replace gogoat and avalugg with a ceruledge/armarouge and a goldengho and suddenly she's a lot more imposing.

[@traiia4147]

I think we're going to get S/V sequels, and I really look forward to a more developed Paldea.

[@darknessknows1235]

I don't think the gym leaders having jobs is an indication of the region's early history. BW Gym leaders all famously do things outside battling/leading trainers and enforcing the law

[@jadenkochan7424]

I think the second dlc might involve the new establishment of a proper elite 4 and champion, with the whole tournament tournament thing

[@xaldrortenderofthevats8948]

i think Larry commented that he prefers using Normal Types, so unless he becomes a Normall Type Elite 4, he's probably sticking around Medali.

[@owenbridgers]

I mean like i assume Geeta is the Top Champ cause she’s the Chairwomen so, she just put herself in that place

[@OgamerYT]

True😂😂😂😂

[@hitmanscat5865]

@@xionmemoria I like to imagine she is just 4 Pokémon under her coat so plural

[@triforceofcourage100]

That makes more sense than her actually being champion through actual merit

[@Entinu94]

@@hitmanscat5865 Four cyclizar in an overcoat.

[@spaghettiisyummy.3623]

Paldea is as Corrupt as the real Spain?

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

By the way, the reason you were having so much trouble finding Pawniard in the Orthworm area is because it spawns next to rivers. Not sure why, it just does.

[@selectivepontification8766]

According to the Gen V Pokédex, it's because they use rocks from the river to sharpen their blades.

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

@@selectivepontification8766 oh, nice, lore reasons 🙂

[@Locormus2]

I'm not sure why he didn't start out with getting a Pawniard from South Province Area 5. That's not even an off-limits area prior to Gym1.

[@diegodoesstuff86]

there are no "off limits areas" its an open world game @@Locormus2

[@zenmode3125]

I love how in the Iono battle, one of your pokemon learned a new move which saved the entire battle, this is such a Pokémon cliche and I love it

[@ginichimaru001]

I think she became the Champion the same way that Professor Kukui from Alola did: by default, since he helped organize the league and find eligible trainers.

[@WarmLillie]

*Lillie flash back to Nessa lesson Number* You’re team order is important… If you have your ace and really want to go all out use it properly too.

[@JakoBpyroTech]

You know, these results shouldn't come as a surprise. The degree to which Geeta fail, though, that is suprising. No wonder she likes to ask others to assess the gym circuit in her place. As someone who doesn't play Pokemon, I really like the addition of the text clarifying the various moves effects. It really helps keep track of what's going on.

[@greek1237]

Yeah most of the gym leaders would crush her for REAL.

[@incineroar9933]

There are a tonne of great romhacks out there for free, you really should try one if you ever have the time.

[@rayyaninspookymonth1630]

Maybe it's because of the limited options you find at the start of the game and the level caps she evolve them at, she would probably just sweep the earlier Gym Leaders teams with her overleveled team like a legendary spammer.

[@python1972]

Yeah the test doesn't really prove much, Espathra is one of the best non-legendary competitive mons but Flittle sucks ass.

[@N12015]

@@python1972 IMPULSE Espathra is busted. Regular one is very mediocre.

[@goodbrand1998]

A concept for changing Geeta's Team, with a little explanation for each pokemon. Just a silly little set of ideas. Keep Glimmora, but make that be the pokemon that she starts the battle with, for obvious reasons. She wants to be the top she'll need to abuse that toxicity. Make her carry either a Ceruledge or an Armarouge. Ceruledge if you play Scarlet, Armarouge if you play Violet, that way if the player has one, she has the other. She could probably keep Gogoat, but personally I feel Arboliva is the better option, if only to keep showing off the new pokemon of gen 9. May just say keep Avalugg since it's such a weird, and kind of dumb and out there pick, it'd also be kind of unexpected at the same time from someone called the top champion, while also showing off how strong Avalugg could be. Gholdengo may be a good choice for her team, since chances are there were players that ignored Gimmighoul when first playing the game and it'd be like a "whoa what is THAT thing?" feel to it. Make Kingambit her ace, that way she can be like "Behold, the pokemon that stands atop all others", suddenly that pokemon is a lot scarier.

[@shyguyrocks1]

Glimmora is her ace for what we can assume are some vague story reasons with Glimmora's ties to Area Zero. If that never gets expanded on I will be angry cause it would seem like such a bad decision on all fronts then

[@illusionaryheart3325]

@@shyguyrocks1Her Ace is her worst utilized mon oof.

[@RezzSubs]

Making Kingambit her ace instead of Glimmora is such a no-brainer it's surprising Gamefreak didn't do that. Hell, they could've even made it shiny - it fits her colors and is a lot more memorable!

[@rollfaceonkeyboard]

​@@RezzSubs It's too hard for the actual children who play this game. King Gambit jusy sweeping your whole team is way worse than any other champion ever.

[@leonel392]

​@@rollfaceonkeyboard Worse than a Mega-Metagross, the perfect EV's and IV's Garchomp or an eight Pokemon battle?

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

I’m convinced the only reason that Paldea has the weird Champion System that it does, is because if it had a Traditional one, Geeta would lose the throne so fast. I’m half convinced she’s somehow responsible for this Whack Champion System, and secretly bribed her way in.

[@LjCast-b6q]

She did it bribe her way in she made the dang system

[@MotorcycleCheetah]

Making a System that benefits you above everyone else is just rigging it with extra steps.

[@HarveeFriend]

Fun fact but I tested out Geeta’s team on Showdown and all her pokemon seemed fine the problem is she should have started with her Toxic Debris mon and kept Kingambit last cus of its ability

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

Glimorra is fine, but it must be a lead, Esperanth (or whatever its called) is apparently great but its move list for her is terrible and Kinggambit is a solid beatstick. The other 3 suck. Gogoat is maybe, *maybe* workable if it gets Milk Drink to be a tank but Avalugg and the fish are just bad. She should have had a Baxcalibur and one of the Tauros variants.

[@HarveeFriend]

@@hawkticus_history_corner I think Palafin and maybe Gholdengo would be better or just Palafin if she switches it out to show its power and since Hasse uses Baxcalibur champions tend to not use psuedo legendaries if an elite 4 member uses them cus it fits their type specialty

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@HarveeFriend I wouldn't use Gholdengo on account of the thing being obnoxious, kinda the same with Palafin really, probably overwhelming for casuals. Dodongo may be a better replacement

[@HarveeFriend]

@@hawkticus_history_corner true but I mean GF did make the elite 4 in bdsp competitive so i don’t think they care about the casuals anymore Or maybe they do as they got rid of set mode and only ILCA don’t since they are the ones who made bdsp but still

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@HarveeFriend Except that wasn't GF, that was a different studio, who I am convinced where shackled by unreasonable time and various stupid demands which is why BDSP wasn't a Platinum based remake. And the the fact that the E4 has sensible stat spreads and items is part of that. And getting rid of Set mode is one of the dumbest things they've ever done alongside the XP share changes. Just utterly pointless removal of features

[@kevinmark6389]

You know, a lot of people keep giving Geeta flack for her Pokemon choice and lineup, but I have a theory as to why it is what it is. During her pre-battle speech Geeta notes she has a trait that is unbecoming of being a chairwoman: she is unable to hold back during battles. As such, it's possible Geeta at least does her best to handicap herself before the heat of battle by making these deliberate choices. Who knows? Maybe you're the first test subject for Geeta to handicap herself by making less tactical choices. Furthermore, as someone else also theorized, we only ever battle Geeta to earn a Champion Rank, not title. It's not like Sun and Moon where we fight for and later on defend our position of Champion. Instead, we're being tested by the Elite Four and Champion Chairwoman to see if we're good enough to claim the rank of Champion, not to be the Champion and take over the position

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

Giving yourself a handicap *is* “holding back.”

[@Locormus2]

​@@Deoxys_Used_Mimic I disagree. I rechallenged the gymleaders with semi random teams consisting of no type overlaps and no delibate advantages, capped at lvl 55 - no inbattle items. In terms of training I obviously held back, but I had to go full out during the battles. The only one that gave me a hard time was Kofu and his horrifying Clawitzer. Even had to break the items rule for that one. It was a trainwreck. 😂

[@Deoxys_Used_Mimic]

@@Locormus2 You can perform well within your means, but at the end of the day that ceiling is still there. It’s like wearing weighted training clothes=> it doesn’t matter how used to it you are or how well you fight in them… you aren’t truly “going all out” until they come off. A limitation is a limitation. You capped yourself to begin with, no matter how hard you tried; end of story.

[@Locormus2]

@@Deoxys_Used_Mimic Fair enough, but it does feel subjective in the moment.

[@eli2210]

Cope bruh

[@sadv3]

To answer that last question, I thought out of everyone in the game it would be Geeta who would have trained a Gholdengo. I was so shocked when I beat her and didn't see a Gholdengo. Leon had Aegislash so I just assumed Geeta must have a Gholdengo on her team and no. So Gholdengo would be my choice.

[@Jw87563]

Gholdengo even helps the poison strat by blocking hazard removal.

[@jeromedurand1067]

One thing I realised the first time I played the game was that most of her pokemons could be found in Area Zero. Lore wise, this could mean that she learned about the pokemon natives to Area Zero and either got there or catched them because of this.

[@intergalactic92]

And their unevolved forms are absolutely nowhere else in Paldea….. oh hang on.

[@KelyxTheMage]

All this makes me truly wonder if the team she fights us with is the actual team she uses normally or just the team she uses for the assessment and thus the only team we ever see her with.

[@vyrusvoydcat]

The fact even Vasko got so many Ls for this just kinda prooves Geeta's team is undesireable, especially in the order it is in. The moment he put Glimmet in first, he wins against Kofu. Edit: Diantha's team stands out in that it features kalos-native pokemon mostly, and includes a mega evolution. Geeta uses non-native Paldea pokemon, that, also generally are fairly unpopulair amongst the community. Veluza does not have a great rep, either. In story, Diantha also has more aignificance, whereas Geeta just kind of feels like a bump to get over. Lastly, I think Geeta also gets a bad rep due to how she's written out. Nearly all of the gym leaders and E4 seem to be unhappy about here in some way, which makes the community disregard her more. Only Nemona seems to look up to Geeta. The rest really just don't want to even want her around, from my understanding. To get back on Diantha rq; many speak if her as a great trainer, in contrast to Geeta.

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

Diantha isn't a bad champion for a weak team, she's a bad champion because she just doesn't show up in the story enough people people to care about her. Blue is your rival throughout the journey, Lance shows up and takes down team rocket with you, Steven is outside of the pokemon league doing his research, Cynthia runs into you multiple times throughout the region and in platinum helps you out in the distortion world, Alder and Iris both show up a couple of times in their games with Alder even being a major stepping stone for N, Then we get to Diantha who is just a movie star and that's about all we learn about her from XY.

[@leonel392]

I assure you any team with a Tyrantrun will be memorable

[@emblemblade9245]

I think Diantha showed up literally once in the story

[@jpcsdutra]

@@morphstarchangeling8024 Diantha's team is bad for a lot of reasons. It's a pastiche of the ace's of others. It's the only trainer to Mega in this game besides the tutorial and Lysandre and the Pokémon of choice isn't native to Kalos. Goodra is completely overlooked in her team. Aurorus is just straight up not good. I would like her to have a pure Kalosian team of non-repeats but that's impossible. Honestly? I would make her team consist of Furfrou (surprisingly physically bulky, basically 120 Def because of ability, and being only week to fighting, it would be likely to bait Physical moves; proceed to punish with STAB Giga Impact that could be even worse with held items) no one would see it coming on their first playthrough; Goodra with Hydration and Rain Dance and Toxicroak could be a great follow up for coverage in the rain if it has Dry Skin; she can keep the Gardevoir but it wouldn't be her Mega or her ace, and tbqh it wouldn't be bad if it was switched for a Gothitelle, as good and less overused; Klefki would probably be a very good first 'mon as a setter. Her ace would absolutely should be a Mega Diancie. "But Mega Diancie wasn't a thing until ORAS and Diancie is a Mythical" it simply shouldn't have been. Make it a rare evolution method for a 1/1000 Carbink or something as its lore is. Gen 6 already had Volcanion and Hoopa and the very next gen would introduce Magearna which serves almost the same purpose. Nothing of valor would be lost if it wasn't Mythical and was instead some pseudo pseudo-legendary thing like Volcarona. Besides, she does have more moments. She is acquainted to both Lysandre and Sycamore and she does talk to them both about team Flare. It's just that she does nothing about it.

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@jpcsdutra XY has 0, count them 0 Kalos native Pokemon with a Mega and ORAS added one and its a Mythical which Game Freak won't put on a Champ team. Diantha is also modeled after a Gardevoir so if she's not using it as her ass her entire look needs to change. O agree that Aurorus isn't good, but the rest of her team is fine for the most part. Hawlucha needs Unburden and an Item, Tyrantrum needs Rock Head to go with that Head Smash and the rest of her team is fine as far as Game Freak difficulty goes, this just that XY level scaling was bad. Bump her levels a bit and she's perfectly workable. Geeta... Geeta I need to replace half of her team.

[@AZDfox]

Honestly, I kinda respect her more after this. She took a team, not of super strong pokemon, but of ones she liked, fought, lost, trained harder, and overcame in order to become champion.

[@Acroflame]

Well, a lot of the Pokémon she uses are good, she is just completely awful at using them

[@saga8659]

she's just awful at using them

[@Vivigreeny25]

That’s what’s so frustrating: That’s great! That’s nice! But she doesn’t use them to their full advantage to make up for it. :(

[@exaltedfalcheon1793]

Karen would be proud and furious

[@umayle07]

🤢🤮she’s terrible

[@CloudRunnerRex]

Maybe it’s just me, but Geeta feels like more of head-empty character than most, she just uses big words but none of it means anything 😂

[@cds7012]

I've been missing out on a lot of these runs, but this one I had to watch eventually. Geeta looked super promising, it really sucks how she ended up so weak. At least we got Nemona as the better fight afterwards. (Also ngl: this video actually makes me think it would have been pretty cool to have Clavell as a top champion as well. I am not saying that he needs to be the definitive champion, just having him as a former top champion or something would have been very cool.)

[@JiYooHJi]

If I were to design Geeta's team, I would give her: 1. Glimmora - I think it would be cool if she lead with her ace unlike previous Champions. I know most Champion teams don't have held items, but an Eject Button would probably benefit it. That way, it gets more time to shine later while (hopefully) activating its Ability. I think it would also be interesting if an NPC used the Terastal phenomenon early instead. It's Tera Type would remain Rock. 2. Gogoat - Gogoat is a cool Pokémon with decent stats. I also think it is one of Geeta's better team members in her actual team. 3. Kingambit - Kingambit would be her last Pokémon due to its Ability. If Geeta had used Kingambit later on, it definitely would have been more troublesome. If possible, it should be given a Focus Sash to prevent it from immediately being knocked out by a Fighting-type move. 4. Gothitelle - This Pokémon better fits the theme I was aiming for than Espathra. Also, I don't know why, but Gothitelle seems like it fits Geeta's aesthetics. 5. Gholdengo - I think at least one NPC Trainer should have used Gholdengo so players can at least have it registered in their Dex. I also see Geeta being patient enough to collect 999 coins. 6. Dragonite - I think every Champion, excluding Blue, Wallace, and Alder, should have a Pseudo-Legendary. I would have liked to give Geeta Baxcalibur, but it doesn't fit the theme I was going for. I will explain later on. Dragonite is a tough Pokémon I can see Geeta being patient enough to train. Also, I think Dragonite's warm and nurturing characteristics counter Geeta's somewhat cool personality (cool as in cold). This isn't exactly the order I would suggest. I mainly arranged the team by the order I think Geeta would catch them on her journey. Glimmora would definitely lead the battle while Kingambit ends it. I chose these Pokémon because they all have the letter G in their names. A majority of Geeta's team already had this in common, so I just went with it. I'm not sure if it's much better, but at least it has one less weakness that half of her team shares.

[@bubalackgaming8892]

I agree that every champion should have a pseudo legendary, it just feels right since they're supposedly meant to be the best of the best

[@Jw87563]

I think Geeta's team is supposed to represent each environment in Paldea, so Bax could work.

[@SuperCJK333]

With these rules. Lance would have an even awful time as he would only have magikarp for most badges.

[@raerohan4241]

Lance also has 3 pseudo legendaries on his team (= difficult to find and catch, not usually available early game) and 2 other pokemon only obtainable post-game. This is not the case for Geeta

[@magnej1520]

Next challenge: Could Sada/Turo ever become professor?

[@playingwithstory247]

It's interesting to consider what Geeta's road to becoming top champion would have actually looked like. Obviously on her way to the top she never had to battle Turo/Sada and probably not the Team Star leaders, who were likely just still students at the academy or hadn't even enrolled yet, or all these "villains" would've been shut down prior to the player ever embarking on their Pokemon journey. She also would have faced Thyme and not Rhyme, or maybe there were other gym leaders altogether. While she is definitely the weakest champion from our perspective, perhaps in her youth things were so different that she actually did quite well. That said, this was such a fun video!

[@Kazmahu]

Can I just say I absolutely love your production values? Things like using the selfie feature, all your own transitions, stuff like that really elevates a video!

[@VaskoGames]

If you liked this video, you may enjoy my story based series where I play through Pokemon Scarlet & Violet as each of the gym leaders Check it out here: kzbin.info/aero/PL2Z7v8Tsb4lkvD8_YGNcwmIghkGtFddRI

[@mobius1082]

I keep hearing how her employees hate her and all that, and I’m just wondering: are we playing the same game? Geeta’s employees have the same gripes about their supervisor that everyone I have ever worked with have had, specifically around supervisors that they like. Geeta is really focused around improvement and making the region better for the students involved, but outside of personality clashes and pushing people to improve Geeta sounds like a fantastic supervisor.

[@heath6802]

Arven and Penny’s final arc fights were honestly more of a threat than Geeta

[@vimies5746]

I agree with arvens, but pennys is too easy and I honestly see clavell as more of a final challenge for that story

[@OriginalGameteer]

Penny was an even bigger disappointment tbh But Clavell was definitely on the harder end on things, which I liked

[@MysteriousTomJenkins]

Arven was definetly difficult for me and I lot the first time (my first loss that playthrough) but Penny's was easy because I am much more knowledgeable on the Eeveelutions so it was easy to figure out the right pokemon to wreck each of her pokemon. Also her AI tended to try the same move that didn't work, like she was trying to set something up but kept failing. It was at least more interesting a situation than Geeta. Was so worried about her team and was shocked at how bad I was destroying the champion. Oddly also didn't have a bad time with Nemona either, to the point I never even terastalized for her, Arven was my biggest threat in the base game.

[@adamnakamura8003]

“No… No! I was actually hoping to super sweep everything in the game so I can prove all the Geeta doubter wrong!” As much as I like your takes on challenges and the story of your runs… something in that voice, the comments on the video, and the way you determined the answer to if she could… I have to press X to doubt on that one…

[@briansherrod1916]

I beat playing as Geeta gave you so much anxiety. It surely did for me just now! Great video as always!

[@mystickoopa1455]

Geeta’s ultimate team: 1. Glimmora, send it out to set up spikes and toxic debris. Moves: spikes, dazzling gleam, power gem and sludge bomb. 2. Grimmsnarl, ability: prankster. Moves: light screen, reflect, spirit break and false surrender. 3. Gothitelle, ability: competitive. Moves: psychic, fake tears, thunderbolt and mirror coat. 4. Gholdengo ( like Cynthia’s spiritomb but way harder to find.) moves: make it rain, shadow ball, recover and confuse ray. 5. The starter strong against yours. - Meowscarada: with flower trick, knock off, play rough and thunder punch. - Skeledirge: torch song, shadow ball, earth power and overheat. - Quaquaval: aqua step, close combat, feather dance and ice spinner. 6. Her actual ace: Kingambit with supreme overlord. With ghost tera type. Known moves: terra blast, kowtow cleave, retaliate and iron head. I tried giving Geeta a team with the pokemon that fit her character design the best.

[@aetriandimitri190]

Geeta is the top champion not because she has a strong team, but because she somehow didn't immediately give up with an ass one. Also yes Gogoat is extremely underrated

[@adamnakamura8003]

_”Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the Pokémon they love best.”_ -Karen (Johto Elite Four)

[@MortalOrder]

She could have at least played to her teams strengths, like starting with Glimmora and ending with Kingambit

[@MortalOrder]

Like I’m not against her team composition, only the order of pokemon

[@aetriandimitri190]

@@MortalOrder I feel like that was def just a handicap cause wtf

[@MortalOrder]

@@aetriandimitri190 I don’t need a handicap I’m sweeping with my team of 5 that includes a physical attacking Hypno

[@ItsMeHernandez]

Plot twist: Geeta's original team left her because they werent payed enough food, and it happened right before you start your adventure

[@marinmarinhola]

One simple change to Geetas team and she becomes unstoppable. Use an ability patch on her espathra and teach her Stored Power, calm mind and dazzling gleam. Then she sweeps through the entire game on her own. That's what I did on mine when I realized she had speedboost

[@randomchannel1184]

Geeta: you are no champion…you are… Cynthia: DEATH. And I don’t mean that metaphorically or rhetorically or poetically or theoretically or any other fancy way. I’m death. Straight up…and I’ve come for you, Geeta.

[@OgamerYT]

Yeap

[@CyberController-]

I like to think the Pokemon League realized that 10 year olds kept becoming champion for 20 minutes, then giving up the rank, so just said "f**k it" and let all of them be champion.

[@thunderchocolate]

Geeta, Paldea's Champion, initially disappointed trainers with her lackluster presentation. However, imagine the thrill if she revealed a new strategy in her third battle. With her formidable Glimmora leading the charge, toxic spikes would spread while she confidently declared, "Now, I'll show you why I'm the unrivaled Champion!" This unexpected twist would inject excitement and reaffirm Geeta's status as the pinnacle of strength in Paldea.

[@ItsGabe.]

12:19 The Tera Hat is so small! It’s so cute but it also looks so silly?!

[@saliso470]

I totally agree on Geeta being the worst but I have no idea how strong Diantha actually is since I played the insane version of the Eternal X hack where she only used legendaries.

[@rorororroror12]

For me, Diantha would fare better against Lance. Goodra, Amauros and Mega Gardevoir are good counters for a Dragon expert. I agree that Diantha is easy but atleast you can see in her team why she's a Champion. Geeta tho...I dunno.

[@JDLong006]

@@rorororroror12 yeah diantha isn't bad she just gets totally clapped by the mega lucario that is on literally every kalos team

[@demi-femme4821]

Diantha is pretty damn weak, but her Goodra and Mega Gardevoir are so strong that when I run the numbers, Diantha is actually favoured to win. Edit: This is in spite of some pretty lousy matchups against Geeta's Espathra and Kingambit, btw.

[@bubalackgaming8892]

Diantha in a vacuum isn't actually that weak of a champion, it's just that the game straight up gives you her team's biggest counters

[@1stCallipostle]

​@@bubalackgaming8892 It's also a matter of the whole damn game being easy

[@DebbieCadbss]

I’m glad they fixed her strategy and sort of her team on Indigo Disk. Way more challenging and fun battle!

[@cravonomire9971]

My guy friendship is a mechanic like healing so it can be allowed if your not doing it because of heals well no one switches nor heal in Paldea

[@josukex42]

her revised team from indigo disk added Chesnaught and dragapult removing Gogoat and Veluza

[@JDLong006]

Glimmora Lead with Stealth Rock Armarouge (Scarlet Exclusive and way stronger than Espathra) Water Tauros (Violet Exclusive, stops her from getting swept by literally any Skeledirge) Gholdengo (the Paldean equivalent of Cynthia's Spiritomb) Arboliva (overall just really strong and symbolizes victory, adds the primary type core to her team) Kingambit with Sucker Punch and Tera Dark, to get the 1.5x boost from Supreme Overlord, and then the additional 1.5x dark type boost from added Tera stab to kill what's left of your team (will probably get walled by Tinkaton)

[@Maggolando]

There is no way that you unironically said that Armarouge is better...

[@JDLong006]

@@Maggolando if you really want to get into this, armarouge with the standard HP investment e4 Pokemon get can live a shadow ball from Skeledirge, a Night Slash from Meowscarada, and an Aqua Step from Quaquaval, and also stops Skeledirge from setting up Torch Songs Oh and if that wasn't enough it removes fighting types so Kingambit can Tera Dark Sucker Punch its way through whatever is left of your team after you deal with the other threats on her team Espathra stops Skeledirge with Opportunist but doesn't have nearly enough bulk or longevity to actually make it a threatening long term Pokemon, nor does base game Geeta have any special attackers aside from Glimmora (who always comes out last) to take advantage of the Lumina Crash drops

[@JDLong006]

@@Maggolando in singles though Espathra clears, Speed Boost Stored Power is really cool Armarouge is just better in the context of the team I drafted specifically to make Geeta actually harder (and makes a Fire Water Grass core)

[@bluevalor491]

21:56 - THATS major damage ?? 😂 It was like a sixth of its health, MAX lol

[@ryuuronin9852]

The insult to injury of Geeta's reputation is that the game itself doesn't seem to know what it wants to say about her power. Why give a character the shiny new title of "Top Champion", if the only normal "Champion" we face in the game is stronger than her in canon?

[@kaotic300]

if i could remake geeta's team, i would give her several psudo legendary pokemon as well as make her team have connections to paldea's past, area zero and the paradoxes: -glimmora: good for hazards, stays due to being her ingame "ace" -volcarona: strong bug type, foreshadow slither wing and iron moth -hydreigon: pseudo legendary, foreshadow iron jugulis -salamence: pseudo legendary, foreshadow roaring moon -gholdengo: very rare and powerful, the coins are part of paldea's histoty -tyranitar (ace, tera rock): pseudo legendary, foreshadow iron thorns... is the ace because every other teratype has a specialist in paldea

[@ilngsisfh]

geeta isn't called top champion because she's strong, it's because she's a top

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

lord I wish she'd top me

[@thelostician]

There’s no reason to blame her Gogoat since it’s the only pokemon on her team that can take a hit. Back when I fought her I legit one shot everything except Gogoat, it took two hits to die instead of one. In fact the battle was so comically easy, the Gogoat was the only pokemon on her team that got to use a move…. And that move it used, Bulk Up.

[@jennydorrance1884]

Switching Glimora to be the first pokemon and Kingambit to be the last would improve her strategy a lot

[@gregorygan2077]

Geeta didn't begin with what you assume she began with. She ENDED UP with that team. I bet she did NOT limited herself to just them throughout her journey.

[@1stCallipostle]

Wait... The bug gym has a trainer? I just punted the olive over the gates instead of going around so I had no clue

[@fortniteblevins7058]

First time this kind of question actually made sense, bro had the most mild team in existance

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Looks like you may have to make another video after her rematch in the dlc.

[@TheGreatPM1]

So basically, this challenge is impossible. Because you either need to overlevel or transfer her main which I do not count as solutions because they aren't reliable enough. Wow, her team sucks that much and I haven't even played the game yet

[@lordofchaos97]

Geeta's redesigned team would look like this: 1. Glimmora as her lead, 2. Espathra, 3. Ceruledge or Armarouge, 4. Gogoat can stay, 5. Flutter Mane, and 6. Kingambit as her new ace

[@ijustwantedtocomment8319]

what if it's in violet? would she still get flutter mane or a future paradox form like iron jugulis?

[@BOOPBEEP859]

H O W T H E F R E A K D I D S H E G E T A F L U T T E R M A I N

[@flameshock1013]

I honestly think Esparthra should stay as her lead. Sure Glimmora can set up Toxic Spikes, but Espartha's Opportunist ability makes setting up on it hard.

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

No fluttermane, can't have a paradox mon on her team. Flutter mane replaced with Dondozo.

[@kintsuki99]

Can't have paradox pokemon since they were inacssible at that point.

[@manoftruth0935]

Looks like Game Freak listened for once, and gave her intelligence for battle.

[@kns6958]

I think King gambit is fine. Personally, I think more of the pokemon from Paldea would be nice for her team. I understand that they want to make this game more appealing to younger audiences, but why not include a harder mode? Didn't they do something similar in black and white or black and white 2? That way, they could revamp gym leader teams, the elite fours, Geeta's, and other prominent trainers to provide more of a challenge to more experienced, older fans.

[@intergalactic92]

I maintain that the moniker "Top" is because she’s in charge, not because she is actually stronger than anyone.

[@SirLawfulEvil]

She says she is utterly incapable of holding back during pokemon battles. I head cannon that aside from her ace pokemon, her team is specifically crafted to make her beatable. I really want there to be a DLC fight where you get to see her REAL team. It'd be incredible if it were the hardest fight we've had since Leon and Cynthia. To see her in that echelon would be peak and give me so much respect for Geeta as a champion. Cmon gamefreak pull back the curtain and show us that she's actually sadistic and terrifying. On some Unohana/yachiru type beat, I really wanna see this lady cook!

[@F14thunderhawk]

it turns out her real team is just Revive Cats

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@F14thunderhawkand then she gets wrecked by Nemona’s cut team. There’s only so many revival blessings you can do before getting hit with a priority move

[@manuelferraz9817]

i like how geetas choice of pokemon represents mountains for Avalugg,sea for Veluza,and sand for Espratha.

[@MarcusMapua]

A lot of people were happy that they brought back Gogoat to the games after so long, in which I guess that is why they have Geeta's Gogoat. Most of Geeta's Paldea Pokemon besides her Glimmora belong to other significant paldea region trainers as either part of their roster or are their aces: Espathra + Tulip, Veluza + Kofu, & Giacomo's Partner pokemon Pawniard being now a Kingambit. So if anything: Glimmora, Gogoat, & Avalugg are practically her own. When it came to Champion battle(s), the full team(s) of Geeta & Nemona have a shared weakness to Fighting types (Avalugg, Kingambit & Glimmora + Lycanroc, Dudunsparce, & Orthworm {technically Meowscarada too depending on the starter}). The only thing to it though is that unlike Nemona, Geeta has countermeasures against such weakness: Espathra, Veluza, Gogoat's Play Rough, Kingambit's Zen Headbutt, & Glimmora's Dazzling Gleam. MOREOVER, I guess especially since Meowscarada (and I guess also technically Quaquaval too) joined the ranks of the group/faction of Starter Pokemon that despite the gender ratio, their design plus theme-origin heavily implies them to being Female Pokemon; just like they did with Delphox and Primarina. Meowscarada's reference would be from female masquerade stageshow magicians, and Quauquaval's humanoid design theme appearance, overworld movement animations, pokemon category (even its name in both english & japanese), and even its species origin is based on Female Carnival Dancers; which it being female makes sense if you know the culture & look at Quaquaval for it

[@jacoboniaplay]

Remember that even the Elite Four and Champion fight are still tests in S/V. They're not title battles like in previous games, so these trainers' teams don't necessarily represent the best these trainers are capable of canonically. When they're fighting you at the Academy Ace tournament, maybe it's a different story.

[@alessorb823]

I think that the only thing that Geeta's team need is a fire type, like, you can change her espathra with a Fire type and her avalugg with the pseudo of the gen and that team would be actually really good

[@Maggolando]

Why would you take away her probably best pokemon?

[@devalinohizkiapradipta2157]

She is so doubted, even the tile said "could she?".

[@LycanMOON]

The only Pokémon I've seen get stuck in Larry's floor are -tinkaton -toxapex -pawniard First was from rtgames run,second my violet run,and now here.maybe it picks a Mon this happens to? But why only one in each team?

[@voxicwaste]

My daushbun clipped through thr floor while fightng Larry

[@Capoodle]

This sounds like something that's only happening to shorter mons, so it must have something to do with the model.

[@willlllllllb]

When I say that ScarVio had some of the best characters in the franchise I block Geeta out of my mind completely. I forgot she existed and replaced her as Champion with Nemona

[@SingingSealRiana]

What baffles me is the assumption she only has those 6 pokemon for her whole journey. Most people I know have more pokemon especially in the middle of the game that later get switched out

[@MortalOrder]

We don’t have proof on what other Pokémon she could have. Plus, it would make it way too easy to win the challenge, only needing to use the final team for the championship

[@SingingSealRiana]

@@MortalOrder still addressing that as an allowance would have made sense

[@Amithys_Fox]

Technically AL Turo ain’t professor Turo so you don’t need to defeat him

[@RyoneFuushiba]

I think...they should have done a fake out. Where Geeta goes "oh yeah, I'm totally the champion yep", and then after you ~~easily~~ defeat her she goes "lol jk, this is the actual champion" and gives us someone actually a threat to fight.

[@s.e.n3264]

I would change her team. 1.Glimmora - Toxic debris Power gem Sludge bomb Energy ball Reflect 2. Garganacl - Purifying Salt Salt cure Fire punch Explosion Protect 3. Espartha - Speed Boost Lumina crash Dazzling gleam Roost Light screen / Calm Mind 4. Cyclizar - Regenerator Dragon Claw Iron head U-turn Shift gear 5. Gholdengo Make it rain Nasty plot Shadow ball Thunderbolt 6. Kingambit - Supreme Overload Kowtow cleave Zen headbutt Tera blast (water) Acrobatics / Dig I think that those mons, in that order with those moves and abilities would make her a respectable challange. The goal wasn't to go complete tryhard. I only wanted to use Paldean pokemon. And I know there's some slight overlap but I don't it's too detrimental. She's still not on Cynthia's level, but I could respect this as a champion's team. Also no Bax cuz the elite 4 already showed him off.

[@dsparody]

It wouldn’t surprise me if her team was supposed to be perfectly trained, have items ect but the game glitched them away.

[@AceFuzzLord]

For a moment I thought "Couldn't you get glimmet in the cave leading to Alfornada instead of trading an egg?" I definitely think it would take a ton of luck to get the outbreak there (which is how I originally got it), but I definitely think you could considering another channel MandJTV did a video on beating the game by walking everywhere and found a way to Alfornada which utilizes just falling off a cliff or 2. Then I realized you gotta get really lucky with catching it because of how high of a level it might be, so yeah. Trading in a egg instead definitely seems to be the right play if you wanna save a bunch of time and energ, even if you could legitimately catch it with a bunch of luck

[@railroader1719]

Here's what I would do Make Glimmora her lead (as it should be) so it can set hazards. Swap all 3 of Gogoat, Veluza, and Avalugg for Meowscarada, Skeledirge, and Quaquaval all with their hidden abilities. Espatra could be in the 5th slot, and like the starters give it it's hidden abilitty and the moves Calm Mind, Stored Power, Dazzeling Gleam, and Protect. After that she brings in her new ace Kingambit with Supreme Overlord.

[@BeanKally]

I beat her first try three levels underleveled and the Pokémon I used the most was a GOGOAT

[@dusty_russty6933]

Fun fact, I mopped the floor with Geeta with Skeledirge by using a mixture between Torch Song and Shadow Ball

[@The-Determined-Ninja]

I feel as though there is a misunderstanding right at the beginning of the video because the "Champion Rank" has *_always_* been a thing from my understanding. (õ ó )ゝ Areas like the *Battle Frontier* of Generations _before_ are excellent examples of that-in those games, characters all around who have something to do with it clearly state that you must be of a "Champion Level" to be eligible to be there. That's not a simple hint to players to go become the champion, but also a clear affirmation that just because you're not the _raining champion,_ doesn't mean you can't be of "Champion Rank" in other regions. The difference here is that a specific character-Nemona-is of relevance to that exact concept, and thus it has more emphasis put on it than in previous games. (´-‿-`；)

[@someonecallajrpghero3045]

Oh man captain Astronaut that's a cameo I didn't expect!

[@crimsonflareumbreon1290]

So no? Geeta can’t become champion because you need to trade a egg but normal means she can’t even beat the second gym without it

[@travisgames6608]

You can catch a Glimmet. They are rare. However, they pop up for me like crazy lol.

[@crimsonflareumbreon1290]

@@travisgames6608 eh it be over the level cap if he ever plays with one

[@dweebpatrol]

Geeta being the strongest is such a funny idea since canonically every champion rank trainer has beaten her despite her inability to hold back. The actual top champion would be Nemona at least.

[@TheWonkster]

They should have kept her team as is, but given her absolutely ruthless AI and good items

[@mlpfanboy1701]

Welp i got news for people: turns out it was not a fluke she made this position.

[@chunga689]

Well it would make sense that Geeta would have trouble with the gym leaders because she wouldn't have picked them to be gym leaders otherwise

[@rateat3r]

The fact that if this was the anime she somehow had to get to alfornada cavern before even beating the second gym.

[@Shark-B1t3]

geeta is strong to new players not older players who've been playing for awhile

[@aruihe]

"Flittle toughed it out so you wouldn't feel sad!" brought a tear to my eye.

[@kingleo-vp9ql]

Honestly scarlet and violet does feel harder than sword and shield, I lost once in sword on my first run to the battle restaurant guy in hamerlock cause I was way underlevel. But scarlet, I lost track of my losses, but I think the issue was my team's lack of strength. My sword team needed only 5 members ,but scarlet felt like I needed 7😂. But I'm going to rerun the game to see if that theory holds up

[@AngelicusEXperiment]

Either there were different gym leaders when Geeta made her journey to the top, or she didn't exclusively use the six we see her use. It's possible that she caught a large number of Pokemon, mixing them as needed for each challenge, and the team we fight is her "balanced" team. Possibly both. Either way, though, this result isn't exactly surprising.

[@SunniestAutumn]

Geeta is the most hated champion for having a peculiar (bad) team, but as a character I'd argue that she is one of the best. This may not be particularly difficult, given that the personalities among other champions include "likes rocks" and "is famous", but she takes care of her employees, treats everyone around her with respect and presents very prim and proper, while being aloof and forgetful. Idk, I love Geeta. Sure, her team sucks, but her design is wonderful and ties very pleasantly into the joyous nature of Scarlet and Violet. Rika literally has to pick Glimmets out of Geeta's hair in the morning. That is delightful.

[@Fluffernater]

True Geeta team: -Mega Rayquaza -Mega Rayquaza -Primal Groudon -Eternamax Eternatus -Arceus -Miraidon All level 100 with max stats and all have the ability wonder guard. Truly balanced

[@4ncientGu150]

My wife is convinced Geeta was given her job just so she can be made to do paperwork.

[@Gamer1288]

6:52 I explored Most of the Map using the Teleporting Trainer Exploit to get out to the Main World and I can bluntly tell you that only the Ocean and most High Cliffs are barred to use. I was able to enter ALL Towns and Gyms on Foot without access to the Ride Pokemon and unlocked those Fast Travel Points in Most Watchtowers. Only Veluza was barred to you before you get the Surf Ability unless you get a very lucky spawn when you are near the Water.

[@Sezenian]

To really understand someone, you must copy their team. This video shows this brilliance.

[@jacobcain9008]

I honestly believe the team she uses to fight the player isn't her 'actual' team. In every other region, the champions have to use the best pokemon they can, because if they lose, they're no longer champion. Geeta can use a weaker team to challenge potential champions, because even if she loses, she keeps her position.

[@garrettwhitener5071]

I think the biggest thing was just make Kinggambit her ace and lead with glimora the hate she gets would be halved imo.

[@danieltilson4053]

The thing with Geeta is, because Champion is just another rank, and not a title you have to remain undefeated to hold, she exists to test and make sure you deserve it, not to try to be an unbeatable wall at the end of a run. So it makes sense that her team is merely okay, not really hard.