A Moron’s 101 Guide To Marxism Ft. PragerU

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[@EdenLippmann]

"Why does anyone still care about Marxism? Marx has been dead for over a century." This from the people who lose their shit every time someone badmouths Shakespeare.

[@EdenLippmann]

@Russian Waifu (T-72 Tank Commander)🇷🇺 Oh come on! Have you ever _tried_ to sit through Measure for Measure? That's an atrocity, right there.

[@BunnyBoyZelda]

or y'know *the founding fathers*

[@Artyom-Preobrazhensky]

vaush actualy bad becau not make point

[@lydiafayre9806]

Also, it's so telling how they only engage with an idea in terms of their perception of the relevance or validity of one person who spread it. It's like they're whole lens for looking at the world is tinted with ad hominem fallacy.

[@tomservo5007]

Why does anyone still care about Christ? He's been dead for a lot longer

[@eman22017]

“Marxism is when mommy makes me eat broccoli. Literally 1984.” -PragerU

[@AveryCreates]

This is more accurate than the prager video.

[@PossumPunx]

@Russian Waifu (T-72 Tank Commander)🇷🇺 ratio+ you’re a tankie

[@Baelor-Breakspear]

Can you provide a citation for this quote? I’m doing my doctoral thesis on PragerU videos and whatever video this is from might be useful to my research. Thanks much appreciated

[@Baelor-Breakspear]

@@PossumPunx yeah I remember arguing with this creep about the Russian war against Ukraine like a month ago. I remember the creepy name used by a person who creepy political persuasions.

[@Baelor-Breakspear]

@@seagulfs4123 your reply should have as many thumbs up as a reply is able to have. I hope you get there soon pal.

[@ASolidSnack]

Looked this guy up and was surprised that he doesn't have any sort of criminal convictions or allegations, which is unusual for a Prager U guest.

[@All-Medical]

Underated comment.

[@synchronium24]

Don't worry. Republicans heard your complaint about a rare non-criminal in their ranks and decided to give you a consolation prize. Former revenge porn site operator Craig Brittain is running for Senate.

[@Necroskull388]

Yet.

[@lalitthapa101]

@@toptextbottomtext3062 I just did and Jesus Christ.....

[@ASolidSnack]

@@toptextbottomtext3062 least degenerate Russia simp

[@supergamer5121]

“Marx died over 100 years ago, why do people still care about his ideas? Now let me explain to you why you should embrace Judeo-Christian values, aka ideas from people who died over 2000 years ago.” - PragerU

[@hectorcm2063]

Based and marxpilled

[@christophersnedeker2065]

Well granted he died for only a few days.

[@IMatchoNation]

Brilliant comment

[@ATurnip]

but... But... Jesus is still alive in heaven. It says so in the Bible! :P

[@christophersnedeker2065]

@@ATurnip People saw him accend, people where willing to die for believing that, they wouldn't be willing to die horrible deaths if they made it up and there where too many people for it to be a hallucination.

[@666kittycat666]

“Imagine for a moment a world in which there was no murder or theft; this would drive me mad” -Dennis Prager

[@Artyom-Preobrazhensky]

prageru not say that becau now .ame you up thing that not true and vaush lie lyer

[@Artyom-Preobrazhensky]

make me mad

[@arby327]

"Here is a fact: Murdering the rich isn't wrong." - Dennis Prager

[@Artyom-Preobrazhensky]

@BitterOrange you am lie vaus make western propaganda and he make bad am video an kes

[@Artyom-Preobrazhensky]

@@arby327 here is fact and e emas are the only becau you make misinfomation bad and western pro. . Sna

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

"Marx wanted people to be happy and able to do things that aren't work until you're dead." Wow, how evil...

[@SeasideDetective2]

By that standard, America's entire post-1940s consumer culture is evil. Who new that McDonald's cheeseburgers, Barbie dolls, and STAR WARS were tyrannical?

[@slugmaballs7309]

Just beyond the pale.

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

@@slugmaballs7309 Who's beyond the pale? Me or the guy that wants you to work until you drop dead?

[@slugmaballs7309]

@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 Obviously Karl Marx. Suggesting that we should live our best lives, and not have to slave away under capital owners? It's abominable. Unconscionable. I cannot believe that someone would be evil enough to consider it. /s

[@calebharris292]

Because conservative political theory isn't for the working class, it's justification for the ruling class to keep the dirty underlings in line. That's why a lot of conservative thought boils down to "you will wear the muzzle and you will be happy" or "you're better than these subhumans; which is why you shouldn't change the system because *you* will be on top... Someday"

[@MrHodoAstartes]

It's true. Volunteering is absolutely attractive to people as a form of community organization, to build something useful and find meaning. Did you know rural German fire brigades are almost completely volunteers? They are effectively clubs where local people gather, organize and maintain the means of fire fighting in their area. They are self-organizing qualifying courses, raising kids into the task and organizing community events. When your house catches fire in rural Germany, the guys that show up are mechanics, nurses, office workers, bankers, bakers and plumbers by trade. They go to bed with the alerts on them and sacrifice their night's sleep in a pinch, or rush out of a shop to help people. Recently, as I drove home after dark I ran into a road block. A car had run into a ditch and responders were out there dragging them back onto the road, making sure no oil or gasoline would spill out to contaminate water. And the guy who stopped me was a beanstalk of a boy in a fireman's helmet, no older than 19. Part of the local fire brigade's volunteer youth. He wasn't being paid for this. The invisible hand of the market had not guided him there. Nothing so mundane as money drives people with good jobs and enough money to spend their evenings dragging cars out of ditches and run into a burning house.

[@winterhusky404]

My dad was in one of those actually!!! He volunteered for like 4 or 5 years I believe and only stopped once he moved to the us. Wish I could ask him more about it tbh.

[@juniorgod321]

Sure, but do you think that volunteering all jobs and just expecting that people will show up is gonna work?

[@unfollowtheinstructions6360]

@@juniorgod321 I mean, when you get some people who volunteer to work, they obviously like what they're doing, since they volunteered. People like that are naturally gonna be more eager to show up than people who only do it for money alone.

[@juniorgod321]

@@unfollowtheinstructions6360 Of course, but how about the hard or difficult jobs? For example, one of my very first jobs was to carry shingles to the top of houses at a roof company! There's no way in hell that me or any my co-workers would volunteer to do that for free!

[@unfollowtheinstructions6360]

@@juniorgod321 I get that. It's definitely necessary to work towards a future were jobs like that have to be made safer, possibly supported by some advanced technology.

[@WhatAMagician]

I really liked how you addressed the criticism that Marxist ideology has been used by dictators/maniacs. It was very well thought out and persuasive. I've always stumbled a bit on that point.

[@Booga-tz8kj]

Saying you will make things better is a staple for those wanting power, from what I've seen Marxism still gets used less than most religions

[@WhatAMagician]

@@Booga-tz8kj I'm very much under the impression that most people capable of gaining power are ill suited to hold/wield it.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@Booga-tz8kj then wtf should we say? If anything, " I will keep things the same" is worse. At that point the guy just wants to be at the top of the established hierarchy.

[@taragnor]

It's mainly just hard to believe why dictators would use Marxist rhetoric in the US because Marxism has a bad rep there. In other parts of the world, Marx's theories are seen as positive and popular. And fake populist leaders love to cite popular rhetoric, while doing the opposite.

[@ThisIsANameBruh]

Chomsky has extensive speeches on the nature of the Soviet Union and Leninism in particular. You should check them out. Basically Leninist ideology came down to one word: opportunism. Doing *whatever* is necessary to gain power (not due to a lust for power, just out of sheer belief that even your worst will be better in the long term).

[@asArsenic]

Brexit taught me why they say obviously contradictory shit: It broadens their appeal. People who are likely to agree with them will ignore the contradictory elements and be attracted to the arguments that resonate with them.

[@septimaserpent]

It's So Antithetical & Moronic.🥴😵‍💫😵

[@asArsenic]

@@septimaserpent It is anti-science, but these people are anti-science.

[@Alex-0597]

I was kinda like that in 2016. I hated Clinton for obvious reasons and I didn't like Trump. But sometimes he said decent stuff like public healthcare is good and war is bad, so I kinda mentally supported him. Bad move in retrospect.

[@kp63]

@@Alex-0597 Why

[@kp63]

@@asArsenic People who have science on their side don't use the phrase anti science. Just say what scientific evidence is being contradicted.

[@curtbressler3127]

It matters not what ECONOMIC system is used; under a DICTATORSHIP, are we really surprised that people are abused?! It's not the economic system that abused and murdered millions under the DICTATORSHIP; it was the DICTATORSHIP So often people look back at the failed attempts at SOCIALISM and/or MARXISM and blame them and not the TYRANNICAL government at the helm

[@taragnor]

Yeah the thing is that it's irrelevant what a government calls itself. North Korea calls itself a democratic republic. When you're in charge of a country you can name yourself anything you want, you look at the actual policies and determine if it fits based on that criteria.

[@matthewodell9129]

I like this GUY'S comment. Sometimes I have trouble understanding what people are talking about but when he YELLS the important words it's easier to FOLLOW.

[@-cj-]

Or the dictator will change the definition of the economic system to fit their needs. Like Hitler and socialism

[@theorangeninja6486]

love how this guy laughs at marx for talking about raising cattle in the evening, he doesn't know that cows are cathemeral and will graze at night just as happily as they will during the day

[@riccardozanoni2531]

i didn't know that, thank you stranger! /gen

[@wuxin5847]

must be that stupid hair cut makes his brain go mush - who wakes up in morning looks in mirror with piece of hair hanging on the side and thinks this a the way to go lol

[@Alex-cw3rz]

20:05 in his attempt to praise capitalism he has contradicted himself, the sewer cleaner in the capitalist society did it out of free will he even gives a thumbs up because he enjoys it so much, so therefore under socialism why would he have to be coerced. He did it out of free will in capitalism, he should be able to do it out of free will in socialism surely... Unless it was never out freedom in the first place.

[@wellwell7950]

Hmm... curious 🤔

[@0witw047]

He does it out of free will in capitalism because of the money

[@SeasideDetective2]

Even more contradictory is Prager's argument that Marx disapproved of workers doing the jobs they wanted to choose. But in a previous video, "Don't Follow Your Passion," Prager also said that it's not practical to simply choose whatever job you think will be the most fun, because it probably won't earn you a good living. By saying that, Prager in fact made the Marxist argument that capitalism often makes it difficult for people to live as free individuals. Ironically, the "Ayn Rand" paradise that so many of today's capitalists swoon over is impossible under capitalism.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Psst. It's because their rhetorical strategy is to describe the benefits of socialism, and say capitalism is about those things and socialism is against those things. They also describe the downsides of capitalism and say capitalism is against those things and socialism is about those things. It's literally just "war is peace" bullshit. They cannot defend capitalism without switching the ideologies' labels, while doing the actual bad things they attribute to socialism.

[@slugmaballs7309]

@@0witw047 Am I gonna have to bring out the coconuts again?

[@curtbressler3127]

the problems that exist in our system are: 1. it's upside down - the more you work, the less you make.............the more you make the less you work 2. the incentives are there but they're distorted towards the more people you exploit the more you can make.....it's also self fulfilling in that the more you make the more power you're afforded, thereby, allowing you the ability to game the system even further

[@szeredaiakos]

That is an accurate definition of any taxation system.

[@theforcefor]

I like it when Vaush revises and repeats the core tenents of socialism, I think it's pretty useful to have in mind that, for example, socialism is about freedom, the ability to do multiple things and to be happy when doing work. Having this things in mind is not only usefull in the theoretical sense, but pretty useful in the rhetorical sense, bc almost everybody likes freedom, happyness and self actualization, so remarking that socialism achives this things is a compelitg argument

[@user-lh7pl2fu9c]

Sewer workers could be incentivised by having a national celebration dedicated to them and giving them awards for their service, like what we do with soldiers in our current society. Honestly I think it kinda sucks that our current society doesn't have some sort of civilian decoration for people whose labour benefits society.

[@chimsuaumo]

That would be a great day.

[@Wastok]

It's easy to take for granted until you realize how many people in other countries die of diseases like dysentery. Sewers and sanitation systems can save as many lives as modern medicine.

[@just_radical]

"Under socialism who would clean the sewers" Somewhere Mike From Redacted just had a brain aneurysm.

[@masterplusmargarita]

He still wants to find out what a TIFF is too

[@simoneidson21]

@@masterplusmargarita I genuinely don't know what the fuck that question means

[@brokensilence3268]

"Self-interest turns you into Ebenezer Scrooge." --Karl Marx

[@frocco7125]

"Peepee poopoo" -Karl Marl

[@SPELTMUSIC]

funnily enough im pretty sure both dickens and marx were heavily influenced by living in london and seeing first hand the effects that capitalism has on the working class.

[@object764]

"Karl-Marx turns you into Josef Stalin"

[@eelvis1674]

I think the quality of doctors would actually go up when you start filtering for people who want to be doctors rather than for people who want to make money

[@essr4580]

Agree so much

[@redlion145]

There is not a doubt in my mind as to what you say being the case. I almost went to med school - a surprising portion of potential med school students are picking their specialty based on expected salary after graduation. Obviously multiple factors weigh in a decision like that, but it was openly discussed more than once in my presence. I mean no doctor is living in poverty, unless they're really bad at their job, so it's not like any of them needed to fear poverty. But the emphasis was on the money nonetheless. Btw anesthesiologists are the greediest doctors, hands down.

[@vidyagaems4063]

"Why would they lie in a way that is inconsistent" - because they are trying to appeal to a demographic that doesn't mind inconsistencies, hypocrisy, contradictions, obvious bullshit. Only boredom and not feeling edgy enough.

[@wuxin5847]

i have to say their stupidity is entertaining - it is like watching comedic parody show

[@CRushDMV]

I love how at 20:57, 3 separate people could perfectly time the “dicks” emote cause of how many times Vaush has to explain the analogy to ppl on the right

[@juniorgod321]

Actually his dumb analogy has more in commom with communism rather than capitalism, because in capitalism one person doesn't own all the resources and under communism, there's always one dictator at the top, or rather the guy who has all the coconuts!

[@otto_jk]

Ppl? PP Large

[@doublinx2]

The Communism Understander has logged on

[@juniorgod321]

@Fitz the dragon bootlicking whom, exactly?

[@juniorgod321]

@Fitz the dragon if you increase the number of people, then you'd just have a higher number of dictators which is way more commom is a communist sociaty than a capitalist one, and besides, someone asking you to do sexual favors in exchange for resources would be prostitution, which is ilegal in most of the country and lastly, under communism, where do the means of production comes from? I know for a fact that they don't show up magically out of thin air!

[@brotherdirt4383]

i'd literally love working in ''unpleasant'' jobs and know others who would too, outside of capitalism; i getg so annoyed with the ''no one would do it'' arguments THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD HELLO

[@rennnnn914]

Exactly. I know people who love cleaning and other jobs that snobs may think are beneath them. There are people who like just about any sort of job you can name.

[@LizStaples]

Mike Rowe’s 9 seasons of Dirty Jobs showed us again and again that some of the most satisfied people are ones with unpleasant jobs.

[@FelisImpurrator]

Username checks out

[@agazer5394]

@Football-Pundit, we as humans have different likes, wants, and desires. If it is understandable that we can have different levels of enjoyment from colors, hobbies, and even essentials like food then why is it so hard to understand having different levels of fulfillment from any other category? "Gross" and/or "Disgusting" are, in the end, opinions. When someone says they enjoy something that someone else finds disgusting, why is it ok if it is a food or hobby but not if it is a job or other activity? Is it fair to dismiss, minimize, or invalidate the opinions of others just because someone cannot fathom them for themselves?

[@sigmalefty393]

Even just working in the service industry bartending, most of my coworkers have a sort of love for their job, and would continue to do it more happily outside of a system that demands long hours and a paycheck to paycheck lifestyle.

[@FoxhoundIbby]

"SAY THE LINE VAUSH." "So let's say you're on a plane..."

[@bewing77]

I can only look to myself to validate that capitalism's assumption of incentive is false and that variety is valuable. I've had three different "careers". I started out as an army officer, where I found my place in the Rangers and I spent a total of 12 years in the army. After this I went into consulting as a project manager in software development. This only lasted a handful of years. And now, I operate a mid size farm. The most well paying of those jobs where project management by far, it was also safe, clean and comfortable. The least well paying in terms of disposable income is farming and it's often cold, dirty, dangerous and not all that comfortable. My job in the Rangers also shared many of those characteristics. However, my enjoyment is inverse of what incentives would suggest - I enjoy my current farming career the most, I did enjoy the army if you disregard the worst parts of being deployed in war zones. And I hated consulting. What the two jobs I enjoy have in common is that they are extremely varied, they demand imagination, flexibility, adaptiveness and so on. And they both make me feel like I'm doing something that's important not only for me, but for others as well. This to me disproves any notion that money and perks is what motivates people, at least it's false for me. As a farmer I work long hours every single day and rarely get the chance to get time off and I make almost nothing above my share of my family's living costs. Being "rich" means so much more than having lots of money and I'm sure most people would realize this if given the chance. This, however requires a system where people can at least be assured that they can sustain themselves and it does seem systems where it's not an immediate existential disaster to be "between jobs" or where you get the chance to try something new without having to have several years of wages saved up make people considerably more happy. I live in Sweden since 7 years (since taking over the farm no on else in the family wanted to do) and the difference in people's attitude to jobs is dramatically different.

[@scottgrohs5940]

Your testimony here is great argument for “no billionaires” because it demonstrates that those that lead rich, comfortable lives paradoxically go unfulfilled and so need to get their fulfillment from other areas. For some, that fulfillment comes from creating laws and rules that lord it over society and to justify it they pretend to be fighting evil of some kind.

[@nichollle]

bro the founding fathers have been dead longer than karl marx 💀💀💀 what is that argument. right at the beginning he proves he's delusional

[@stephennootens916]

Now that I think about it I enjoyed when I use to volunteer at my local library before the pandemic more than my job now. There was something more fulfilling picking movies and books of the shelves for interlibrary loan than my janitorial work.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

Fair, but janitors are exceptionally important workers. It's a thankless job, but if it weren't for you and other sanitation workers, many places in our society would be a lot dirtier than they already are.

[@essr4580]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup you have to wonder how many people would enjoy cleaning as their job, but since they qualify for higher paying jobs they can't do that if they want higher standards of living

[@thebaumdotcom]

20:21 Your coconut example here is flawed, as it assumes the capitalist actually did all the work themselves and didn't inherit 80% of his coconuts, or exploit the local monkey population to collect them for him.

[@petre1758]

they did "inherit" the parts of the plane that were used to build a fence around the cocouts

[@tatchik77]

👏

[@thedragondread9587]

I watched the whole series before Vaush covered just the first part, and it's amazing how just having a first-two-paragraphs-of-wikipedia-article level of knowledge about the subject allows you to instantly see this video is bullshit

[@kieranczyzniejewski2178]

"Why does anyone care about Marxism? Karl Marx has been dead for over a century" Try asking the same thing about Christianity

[@Tacklepig]

...yeah and it's similarly valid. Both had utility in their time and are pretty outdated now

[@Koopzilla24]

24:20 On this point, I remember seeing a mini documentary on this dude who's job is to dive into Mexico City's sewer system to clear blockages by hand which can be as mundane as plasic bags to as insane as dead bodies. He volunteered to do the job because he's an experienced diver and wants to do something impactful for his community. He states that he loves his job

[@thekingoffailure9967]

That guy's post work showers must be legendary.

[@gustavosanches3454]

What is scary is that dude is a so called professor of POLITICAL SCIENCE in an University. Imagine how much misinformation he`s spreading.

[@5driedgrams]

I thought that US universities were far more rigorous.

[@Tony_Pesta]

@@5driedgrams Some are -- but if a University does literally anything to step in, this dude would be screaming "censorship" at the top of his lungs

[@redlion145]

@@5driedgrams We have multiple accrediting bodies for higher education. Unfortunately there isn't really a grading or ranking scale for them. You might make a rough estimate by googling some prestige universities and seeing which other universities are accredited by the same body, but that has it's limits. Obviously not every school that is accredited by the same body as Harvard will have the same quality of education.

[@sacredhealstv901]

America. So many people ask why nobody is going to college or university.. why would I go to a unregulated guy getting payed to much money cus some other rich guy likes him there for he gets to spread his opinions and thats the only way I get a "degree" smd

[@VladimirPutin-p3t]

​@@5driedgramsPrager u is NOT a university, it used to be "Prager United" but he got sued so now it's "Prager university foundation" So even the name of this mess is purposefully deceptive.

[@SomasAcademy]

Lenin wasn't all sunshine and rainbows but he was lightyears better than Stalin. Yes, he laid the groundwork for what Stalin would do with the idea of a Vanguard Party and the centralized Bolshevik State (though Stalin was the one to create a theoretical justification for long-term state authority), but he also had some genuinely good ideas, some of which were never implemented and some of which were implemented and then sharply reversed under Stalin. The clearest example is probably how under Lenin the Soviets made some genuine (albeit not consistently solid) efforts to promote self determination and cultural independence of the various groups within the USSR, including going out of their way to promote Latin-based alphabets rather than Cyrillic ones for Turkic languages to avoid any impression of Russian supremacy, whereas Stalin consistently promoted Russification of ethnic minorities and reversed Lenin's policies in favor of replicating Tsarist ones. And while Lenin adjusted his policies when things didn't seem to be working out well for the people, Stalin was perfectly content to sacrifice millions of people to keep his plans chugging along. Lenin wasn't a great dude, he was an often ruthless, fairly authoritarian leader, but Stalin makes him look like a hippie.

[@Tacklepig]

"Lightyears better than Stalin" isn't really a high bar to pass considering Stalin ranks among the top ten worst people to ever live on this planet.

[@Fluttersniper]

Nice quote, Prager U, mind backing it up with a source?! “MY SOURCE IS THAT I MADE IT THE FUCK UP!!!” 😈

[@alicecourtney5816]

*Someone who has no knowledge of Christianity and is reading Paradise Lost for the first time*: “I don’t know who this Satan fellow is but he seems a damn fine chap and I hope he wins.”

[@thek2despot426]

To be fair, you could have plenty of knowledge of Christianity and still come away with that conclusion, given how tyrannical and genocidal God acts in the canon of the Bible.

[@christophersnedeker2065]

I don't think real Satan is as reasonable as paradise lost Satan.

[@RedScareClair]

Vaush, I just wanted to say your ability to articulate what we actually see in practice every day is just top notch. The notion that someone would want to clean sewers solely out of free will is just so damn stupid. The people that do the job can *tolerate* it well enough. But no one wakes up and says I think my dream job is sewer cleaning. The capitalist argument if "you are working there because you want to" completely ignores the fact that people have to pay for food and shelter.

[@TheSpeep]

We already have a pretty simple solution for jobs people dont want to do: money. Make necessary jobs that suck ass pay better, and people will do them. If we did that instead of depriving them of alternatives and then paying them like shit, people probably wouldnt mind so much.

[@pogo8050]

This feels like the most obvious answer. Most socialist/market socialist whatever you wanna say would still have salaries and the same incentive structures. It becomes more complicated when one envisions a classless society without currency.

[@walexander8378]

20:05 this makes no sense. If the sewer cleaner makes this choice with no coercion under capitalism, the same guy would do it under the "socialist paradise" where there is supposedly no coercion and everyone does the jobs they want. Because he clearly loves doing it. He makes the choice freely, right? 36:50 then he says this which completely contradictory to nobody will clean sewers because it's in nobody's self interest to do that work. ffffffuuuuu

[@quisquiliarum7710]

because the real argument isn't a logical one the real argument is: conservative thing = smiling person and happy tone :) leftist thing = frowning person and angry tone :( sadly a lot of people don't require logical arguments to be convinced of something. If a baby got run over and it played heroic music half the people would applaud

[@typhoontim3378]

This guy thinks the wealthy aren't benefiting from the stolen value of others.... but we can guess his thoughts on unions or any kind of worker group that could organize a strike.

[@wuxin5847]

exactly - capitalist use the power of state to keep the workers in line - but if the workers unionize to help even the playing field - that is not fair

[@TheBigEvil]

The point he makes at around 18:00 about how humans want to work. im a lazy person and i like laying about doing nothing. but the times ive felt best about myself was when a huge storm ripped through my town i helped out on getting people out of rubble then i helped with cutting up trees that fll in thr roads so proper first responders could get where they had to go. Going to bed that night flushing the toilet with a bucket of water and then having a gallon of water and a glow stick for the light in my room knowing i had probably made the difference of life and death for others was the best night of sleep ive ever had. Helping people helps yourself, better to run to the problem if you can help than run away and keep your skills and hands from making the difference. That being said dont stand around in the way if your not going to help you make it harder.

[@topwomble]

For some reason, nobody takes my Prager U diploma seriously 😢

[@Necroskull388]

@Russian Waifu (T-72 Tank Commander)🇷🇺 Also Vaush: “Hang on, I need to go rape some horses, watch this Adam Something video in the meantime”

[@lalitthapa101]

Indian right wingers be feeling the same with their WhatsApp university degree😂🤣

[@sunnywunny]

@Russian Waifu (T-72 Tank Commander)🇷🇺 imagine being so cringe that you have to make new accounts on KZbin of all places

[@arabiannights5301]

@Russian Waifu (T-72 Tank Commander)🇷🇺 Why are you so obsessed with age of consent? Under every other comment I see you relentlessly self-reporting, it's gross Stop, get some help bro

[@jamesg.1144]

That brief moment where he alludes to the real problem they have with it: "not in some distant future or in the next life, but here and now". That gives away the game- they need people to remain hopeless about their current life because otherwise they wouldn't need to be religious

[@hungrymoose7627]

I started volunteering at a railroad museum this summer and its completely turned me around on how I view work. I'm willing to put in 8 hours a day on my feet on my days off, climbing on railcars, hammering spikes, shoveling track ballast rocks, all for no pay. All because I love trains, and everyone else there loves trains, we talk about trains while we work, we work because if we didn't we couldn't run our trains and keep the museum running. We're not being paid to break our backs for a company that wants to get as little people as possible to do the most work, we do what needs to be done. I wish I could go there and work every day. If I didn't need to pay for food and shelter I would. Regular paying work makes me depressed now because its never as fun or rewarding.

[@MrDeadhead1952]

What's interesting is that in the list of what Marxism is there's no mention of Economics which is what Marx actually wrote about and that it is still taught as part of Economics courses. But whoever wrote this has clearly never read any of Marx's works. They don't even understand how subsistence economies function which depends on members doing multiple tasks to enable their society to function. They also have a fundamental misunderstanding of Marxism in as much there is nothing in Marxism which prevents incentivising people to do challenging work. The writer of A Christmas Carol was Charles Dickens a Victorian writer whose books make it clear he was an SJW. As usual, these right-wing morons conflate Marxism with Leninism.

[@Prometheus1464]

Everyone should have the right to have a enjoyable life without the need of making money and draining yourself for others.

[@HergaDergaDonkeyKong]

I can’t stop thinking about the contradiction that in a socialist economy there will be no one to clean the sewers, but in the capitalist economy that Prager U says everyone has free choice in, it gets done. Either people freely choose to clean the sewers in the capitalist system, which means they will also freely do it in a socialist system since those people must enjoy it and PragerU mocks the idea that people have time to do what they want in a socialist system, OR PragerU acknowledges there is coercion in the capitalist system that is missing in the socialist system.

[@orion5869]

When you're a capitalist, you don't see the fact that if people don't work enough to make one's boss happy they'll starve as coercion. It's idiot but that's how this people's mind works.

[@joeruiz4010]

Socialism = Planned Economy. Capitalism = Supply, Demand, and Labor Factored Economic System. In a Socialist and/or Communist System, everything is assigned and planned.

[@unclegumbald989]

“Socialism happens because people are raspberry jelly” WUT LMAO

[@fnord3125]

anyone who makes a video for prager u should not be allowed to be a professor or teacher anywhere ever again.

[@joeruiz4010]

Only Karl Marx Propaganda Peddlers. Got it. Marxism is doing so well for North Korea.

[@iammatthewdavid03]

it's funny how this guy and I have the similar knowledge of Marxism (not that much even as a Democratic Socialist) and yet I'm not gonna do a video about my ignorance of Marxism.

[@AveryCreates]

"GREEDY, GRASPING, UNFEELING!" Voosh: *starts singing Thrift Shop by Mackelmore* @37:29

[@slugmaballs7309]

That was quite fitting, even though he didn't intend it.

[@MPostma72]

"Would there be oil rig workers in Alaska if the pay wasn't as high?" Well, plenty of people volunteered for a oneway trip to Mars, so the demographic is certainly out there.

[@frocco7125]

Mister "Karl Marx was out of touch with reality" thinks people voluntarily choose to become sewer workers.

[@illsaveus]

Why does anyone still care about Jesus. He’s been dead for thousands of years.

[@christophersnedeker2065]

He kinda ressurected from the dead.

[@chaosomnium6566]

@@christophersnedeker2065 in myth, not in reality

[@christophersnedeker2065]

@@chaosomnium6566 Christ is where myth and reality collide, he was fully a myth and fully real at the same time, we live in a fairy tale.

[@chaosomnium6566]

@@christophersnedeker2065 why do you believe that we live in a fairy tale? is that a way to justify your belief in christ, by denying objective reality?

[@christophersnedeker2065]

@@chaosomnium6566 a fairy tale is objective reality.

[@SewerMatt]

Little known fact but Karl Marx was actually the first leftie debate bro

[@russki_dabb872]

Marxist is like the Emperor Palpatine to these people. Emperor Marx: "Join the communist side."

[@TheGalaxyWings]

Sith sabers are red for a reason

[@daveharrison84]

"The desire to own things makes you a bad person". That's not Marx, that's Buddhism.

[@they-call-me-mister-trash847]

I'm pretty sure a buddhist would say the desire to own things causes pain, not that it makes you a bad person. Still, that idea is certainly closer to some religious nonsense than political / economic theory.

[@ariandynas]

It is not the having, it is the desire that is the issue. Buddhism wishes to see an end to suffering by bringing an end to desire. So that anything you have or gain is appreciated, and so that work is done for its own sake. Possessions are not 'wrong' in Buddhist thought, possessiveness is. Buddhism is against envy, jealousy and greed, and is for compassion, common good, and selflessness.

[@they-call-me-mister-trash847]

@@ariandynas Yeah, you're probably right. It's been a while since I've studied any buddhist philosophy. To be clear though, desiring to own something wouldn't make you a 'bad' person in the same way that christians believe sinning makes you a 'bad' person. Just that desiring things causes pain and by being desirous you cause yourself pain. Yeah? Or do buddhists actually equate desiring material objects to being a 'bad' person?

[@ariandynas]

@@they-call-me-mister-trash847 Well in Buddhist thought no one is a bad person *or* a good person. There is only the sum of your karma - the consequences of your actions. By the doing of good the doer becomes good, by the doing of evil, the doer becomes evil. As for Christian thought, well it depends on what Christians you ask, cause in many places a 'proper' follower of Christ would say "There are no evil people, only the misguided." - there's a reason why the New Testament proper doesn't spend a lot of time on the topic of what the punishment is, but rather on what to do and what *not* to do. "Give away all your worldly goods and live among the poor if you wish to do my bidding." and all that.

[@laeliuss7495]

They literally said: "Marx is dead and was poor" Truly the biggest brain criticism of Marx. Incredible stuff.

[@gaiusoctavius6107]

Will someone explain to me what percentage of the 100 morbillion deaths had anything to do with worker ownership of the means of production

[@leightonshelley]

5:37 its interesting that the video seems to concede that all the things listed here are bad, even though Republicanism/conservativism's entire purpose is to preserve these elements of society for the benefit of the bourgeoisie.

[@mrmaniac3]

Marxism is when mommy won't let me get extra sprinkles on my ice cream 😠😭

[@AhkenAOK]

Any Capitalist Mention’s Coercion Vaush: So lets say-

[@vxicepickxv]

I get to spend a lot of time away from people, underground, and all I gotta do is make sure that the shit ain't all backed up? Sign me the fuck up.

[@oklmao8300]

Brad Thompson reminds me of the blonde Nazi guy from Hellsing

[@HawkbitAlpha]

Vaush at 20:20: "So, say you're on a plane-" Chat: *WARP SPEED ACTIVATED*

[@Mind_Crimes]

All Marx was trying to do was advocate for the freedom & autonomy for the inhabitants of Dreamland by coercing Kirby into his bidding. Kirby wouldn't choose to stop the Sun & Moon fighting freely after all!

[@evanrayswenson]

Bro Marxism amongst academics is one of the most respected fields because of how it analyzed material conditions.

[@jonathandeeter]

“The desire to buy things makes you a bad person” the people who yack about “judeo-Christian values” never read the Bible apparently because that would be point number 1

[@ariandynas]

Worshippers of Mammon

[@Т1000-м1и]

37:22 is insane. This is some top tier YTP material but it`s in the actual video

[@lauraliura]

"Marx has been dead for a hundred years, therefore he doesn't matter anymore. Now let me go on to cite the declaration of independence."

[@common_undead]

*Bible

[@OSTChuo]

30:24 I like how they never mention Hochi min because Vietnam is actually successful. Although not everyone in Vietnam is happy about their government, people still believe in the government and are rather optimistic. A good number of Vietnamese citizens are satisfied with their current standards and the benefits they take for granted compared to the US which doesn't offer said benefits. Protest over there actually influence the government decisions positively so although the government isn't perfect, they do what the people ask them to do.

[@moonbot7613]

Lol, dude has a “90’s flop” hairstyle

[@Moh4a4d]

"Oh wow. I can't wait to tune into another episode of Vaush's insightful philosophical commentary." Vaush: *dabs* "and then he did the holocaust"

[@netherby4335]

The other thing with like sewer work, etc, is that someone doesn't have to be a sewer worker every day of the week.

[@Saaunn]

Mmm gotta love it. Don't like x? Call it marxism to make people scared of it lmao. I just don't understand how so many people can't see how transparently manipulative this stuff is.

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

About the bit on how people naturally like volunteering and doing several types of jobs, and a bit of the Jesus part; That's PRECISELY why christian churchs work, specially evangelicals. You are always looking to help your community, with the resources you have (drive them or help them move their things to a new house if you have a car, for example), you join your "brothers and sisters" to help build a church, to help a small poor community from your surroundings, to build things for your city like a place for kids to play and practice sports, yall create events to give people food and donate things they need if they live on the street or are going trough a hard situation etc.. all working together, not being paid (A lot of times, like in spiritual retreats or whatever they are called, you PAY to work, and even outside that you are still paying to work anyways because youre donating stuff, or giving them money to buy whats needed etc)... So as we can see, churches are just like, communism in practice but distorted with some religious bs (Not saying jesus was full of shit, he was not i like him, but his fanbase sure is). But when it comes to being a community and helping people without expecting a reward for that, not beig paid a SALARY to do that, and also, to the point of the video, doing a wide variety of things that are not just your specialized job, and feeling fucking great because of that... Its precisely why churche work. So much so, that christians that dont do none of thoe activities and just go to the service at sundays are most of the time just miserable and shallow people and even horrible christians mot of the time. If you are a christian but not a marxist, congrats, you were also a marxist all along without knowing it.

[@DrHotWarLove]

Why did they bring Hans Herman-Hoppe's clone on? I'm sure they're just helicopter enthusiasts.

[@judas4544]

8:00 the hasan sneak diss

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

The historian: Dennis Prager The works cited: Crack Pipe

[@bluhmer1990]

I wasn't expecting that PragerU video to so blatantly decide to visit coconut island.

[@elinya4232]

honestly the biggest pro about volunteering for me is that you arent selling your whole future to a single profession. you can just help out. do some work. enjoy it. learn. and then do something else or come back if you liked it. i mean currently i am doing jackshit cause of depression and every bit of energy counts xD but the ability to just do something without all the paperwork and the dreaded "i´ll now do this for the rest of my life" is just nice. plus you actually do something meaningful thats not just filling some random guys pockets.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Yep

[@karrawr9538]

That dude's haircut makes him look like old man Little Nicky - very fitting

[@wuxin5847]

that hair hanging down is so annoying lol

[@Rimpala]

to be fair, I think people do crab fish for fun, but that's not like, not on industrial scale

[@alexandriap.3285]

21:49 I actually think that you could pretty easily make sewer work way less awful by changing the type of labor and applying a bit more. For instance, as a roboticist, I would have great fun designing sewer robots that can be remotely piloted and then eventually become fully autonomous with enough coding work. We're already at the point where we can do that technologically, it's just that there's so much duplication of effort in our technology base that none of our technological effort gets applied to these things

[@alexandriap.3285]

Oh, I watched a bit further, and he does mention automation... though, I still think he's underestimating the amount of automation and roboticization that's possible, if the incentive structures aren't perverse.

[@hyperx72]

Nah I wouldn't wanna build a house, that sounds hard af

[@cv4809]

It's ok, under Vaushism a guy who likes building houses will build one for you, for free

[@rennnnn914]

People always want to work even if they don't have to. Everyone wants to feel useful and valued. Here in Australia where the government paid everyone a good payment to stay home over Covid, if they didn't have a job most used their time to start their own tiny home businesses. Even a lot of people on welfare payments have little side hussles like repairing phones or taking in sewing, or doing volunteer work, even if they don't need to. Those in permaculture circles volunteer to clean up each others properties, even if they don't need help on their own properties.

[@blubastud]

20:20 So begins the epic of the great coconut island saga....

[@factsmachine9905]

I cannot explain the extent of my shook. One could not even imagine it

[@darkranger116]

conservatives : socialism is the devil! conservatives on december 1st : make sure to leave out the free food for the bearded stranger thats leaving you free gifts because you were good this year and followed the teachings of a homeless socialist form the middle east isnt it fun here?

[@RedScareClair]

On the doctor bit... If higher education and malpractice insurance weren't so damn expensive, you wouldn't need to pay doctors a super high income. I would argue that lowering the wages of doctors would deter money chasers from becoming doctors. The best physical group I've worked with were invested in their community and were some of the lowest paid in the area. The worst MD group I worked with was loaded with travel docs. Btw, but arguing that MDs shouldn't have a comfortable living. Healthcare is a rough gig that needs really smart people.

[@zigzag11875]

You know what, I'm very glad I learned something new from this video. I was under the impression that Marxism is fundamentally the same a communism, but I value some of Marx's speaking points particularly those on freedom.

[@williamturnbull16]

His sewer socialism analogy is really bad. They actually had sewer socialism in the United States in the late 1880’s to 1950’s it was in a small little city called Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It was very popular for a long time. No brutal dictatorship in Milwaukee as far as I know. Please correct me if I was incorrect.

[@sethdrake7551]

going back to that thing about cats, if you have 2 cats they will actually spar with each other regularly for fun which is kinda interesting

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

Hey Vaush! I just really want to know about your opinion on Luxemburgism, an ideology by Rosa Luxemburg. I think Luxemburgism might be the perfect political ideology for me.

[@beowyfe]

I love how Marxism to these people is always a bunch of unequivocally based good things followed by a bunch of unrelated and inexplicable downsides. Oh how we could live in place, if not for the inexplicable downsides 😔

[@lapiscenturion]

So killing political opponents that kind of bad thing?

[@lalitthapa101]

If Jesus lived in the same time period as Marx, Both of them would be homies.

[@lapiscenturion]

@@lalitthapa101 no they wouldn't

[@chiangkaishrek5123]

@@lalitthapa101 No they wouldn’t, Jesus was just some random dude in some hot ass desert, how would they have ever met?

[@Isaac-ot6jh]

@@lapiscenturion well killing your ideology opponents, is something every group has done at some point or anther.

[@audioish]

To touch on the sewer job. I think about things that can be done technologically to make it more bearable. Like high tech nose plugs. I know very funny but trying to reduce parts that make it suck would help. The fact is hard jobs aren’t as Cush as they should be.

[@pickettmandi]

As a union ironworker i have to say that there is a certian amount of pride that comes with a dangerous job. Not everyone can do it, it elevates you from the average worker.

[@essr4580]

Did you see their reference images for priveledged vs underprivileged was just a townhome vs a detached suburban home. Like not even deteriorating or smaller or anything, the townhome is arguably more expensive. Clearly showing how they know their audience will see this in a racialized manner

[@kevinthecat9704]

in conclusion: trotsky was a bottom

[@Octoberfurst]

I have become more and more interested in Marxist theory in recent years. I think he has a lot of valuable insights. I highly recommend two books on the topic: "Why Marx was Right" by Terry Eagleton and "Understanding Marxism" by Professor Richard Wolff. Both are very informative and easy reads.

[@robertpresley1503]

Lol the chat when Vaush begins the Coconut island analogy

[@frocco7125]

I'm sure the media outlet funded by right wing oligarchs is gonna have a very neutral and balanced explanation of Karl Marx's philosophy.

[@joeruiz4010]

And some fool like Vaush who shouts "Marxism works. We need the right people, and that's all".

[@frocco7125]

@@joeruiz4010 Vaush literally disagreed with this exact statements multiple times. He said the problem with capitalism and authoritarian "marxists" was not that the wrong kinds of people are in power, but that the very structure of the system is unfit for society. He's literally sympathetic to anarchists. He doesn't want *anyone* in power. Also "Marxism works" or "Marxism doesn't work" doesn't make sense as a statement. Marxism is a descriptive philosophical framework about society and economics, rather than an ideology. It's like saying "The theory of evolution can't work." You just show up and make shit up.

[@wuxin5847]

@@joeruiz4010 capitalism is always failing - with out the state capitalism could not survive - every thing fails - the point is to have a balance

[@hirampriggott1689]

I'm a Marxist myself......but more in line with Harpo Marx