COMPARING GOOSENECK TRAILERS. IS IT WORTH THE EXTRA MONEY OR IS CHEAPER JUST AS GOOD?

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[@SC_XOLOs]

I don’t have a truck, I don’t need a trailer, yet I’m still here.. 👍🏼

[@CAIDMASTEROFPYRO]

yeah same lol

[@williamcanepa9740]

Same boat, i am thinking of getting into driving hotshot, been 12 years driving no cdl trucks for a living for cheap pay. Want to grow.

[@t.l.robinson2162]

It is very interesting material.

[@pro2aneveryield479]

I had a Diamond C 32', triple ramp, which gave me a true 32' of deck. I hauled hay from north Louisiana to South Central Texas. The majority of it was rice straw which is super heavy! First load of rice straw I made, 4 round bales on front of the deck bottomed out the suspension on my 2500 Ram. Had a new suspension put in that was between a srw 3500 and drw 3500 Ram. Made many loads with the trailer after that. It was an awesome trailer! I've pulled a ton of gooseneck trailers from flatbeds to 40' livestock trailers. That Diamond C was the best pulling trailer I ever drug around.

[@nathanfrederick9097]

Running 37 foot Midsota hyd jacks and tail. 12k axles with eoh disc brakes 17.5 tires. Love this trailer, fairly traditional design. Great workmanship and paint. Run crazy overloads and no problems in 2 years. Diamond C would be the next step up.

[@ryanhablitzel]

Diamond C is a step ahead of everyone 🔥

[@aaronlbuchanan9861]

Great video, thank you for your honesty. So many trailer vids are just promo and guys explaining how their product is better. This is exactly what i was looking for, someone who uses the equipment and can point out all the small details and clearly explain why they matter. I also liked that you compared two competitors without trashing anyone. Great job , and thanks again . subscribed

[@ericeckler8445]

I have a 2019 FMAX 35 ft with the engineered beam. 12FT powertail with hydro landing gear. WHAT A TRAILER! I purchased it last year from Sutter trailer in Nixa, MO. Went to the factory to pick it up in Texas. That is not a good story, but...this trailer is awesome . I usually haul a 5740 Kubota with an 1812 bushog, a tree sheer, a root bucket, a root grappler AND A kubota ZD331. Thats all the equipment I need for a job in one trip. I opted for the solar batt charger, wireless remote, one more extra box(and now I think I should have added two more) and a winch mount. I have jackknifed the shit out of this trailer with 20 grand on it and it has not sprung and still pulls true and the brakes are very balanced and spot on. I can't count the number of guys that have walked up to it checking it out asking about it. Everyone is impressed with its design and the fact that is the heaviest lifting and carrying powertail on the market. When I tell tell how much that tail can lift and carry they don't believe it. I tell them to just look under the back and hit the remote to check out the amazing lift and lock system that is on this trailer. You did a great job comparing the Diamond C to others. Bottom line is, there is no comparison in my opinion. I have had many flatbed gooses and dumps. I have a 2016 PJ 24DD that is a great trailer, before that I had a Big Tex....what piece of crap. Could not lift its advertised weight on a tandem 16ft dumper. That thing cost me more than what I paid for it. But anyway, I have not seen a good REAL LIFE comparison on the web of the Diamond C against the competition, which in my opinion, is not competition. This is a great trailer for small trucks and is built like a semi trailer. You did a good a good job putting on this video and I know you will love that trailer as much as I do. Its hard not to say something to everyone when you really find a great piece of equipment that makes our life as a contractor easier and more profitable. PS. after reading some of the posts here, I see you are concerned about cost. Mine was $18.500. Worth every cent!!!!! Don't bother to tell me I got ripped. I don't care.....no.....REALLY....I don't care....Good things are wortht it.

[@VBELTandSON]

Eric Eckler that price was cheaper than mine :)

[@ericeckler8445]

@@VBELTandSON WOW!

[@warrenfender7638]

Old,

[@robhartshorn6823]

Diamond C should have an optional bolt on guard in the tool box to cover the valve body and hoses.

[@CA.papaBear]

That or a box that is nothing but for hydraulics including an oil filter on the return line back to the tank so if there's any debris that happen to get into the system, it won't cause damage in the long run. Hopefully the return line on the hydraulic system isn't pressurized to the point where it'll blow off an oil filter.. hopefully?

[@thomasdesmond2248]

Great advice. Diamond C step up and send a longer goose neck. God bless

[@MitchellH79]

I really appreciate the videos Sam. The reviews & advice help more than you can know. Just made a deal on a 40’ Diamond C with hydro jacks, hydro dove, 12k axles & hutch suspension. Picking it up Monday after they install a couple under-mount tool boxes, & a chain rack. Keep up the excellent work!

[@bobjones8036]

Big flex

[@turyalaykhan3794]

You had it for one year what you think is 40’ diamond c better with hydro jacks? Are you satisfied?

[@MitchellH79]

@@turyalaykhan3794 we love the trailer! Use it several days a week, often with 5+ loads/unloads per day. I won’t buy another trailer without hydro jacks. I have 10 different trailers, requiring constant connecting & disconnecting. Hydro jacks make it a breeze!

[@turyalaykhan3794]

@@MitchellH79 thanks

[@brandonbedrosian6257]

I’m currently hauling with a 2019 Diamond C fleetneck 212 32 foot with hydraulic dove and jacks. I upgraded from a 2017 PJ 40 foot and you can definitely tell the difference in quality. I pull it with a 2017 Ram 2500 6.7 cummins. It handles a 5100 series John Deere perfect. Thanks B.B.

[@heyinway]

Safety note...check hitch ball mounted in bed of truck...if it is a ball, shank, and nut...versus a slip in one like a pickup bed factory. Once that ball becomes loose from the weight working on the fine threads...it needs to be replaced. The threads get destroyed and simply tightening the nut won't hold tension. I've seen some shaky hitch balls...the bed has to have a substantial reinforcement steel plate where the ball shank passes through (this spreads the pressure). New ball that has highest rating...its 25,000 or 30,000 for 2 5/16" ball....loctite and torque the nut to spec. You will have to find what that ball manufacturer recommends.

[@Cake41579]

24+4 Kauffman pro series flatbed gooseneck. It was my first gooseneck that was bought for an extremely good price and was still primarily like new. It's a single wheel dual axle and I'm desperately needing to upgrade to a dual wheel dual axle. Which is my reasoning for watching your video. I bought a new 20' featherlite gooseneck stock trailer about 2 years after first buying the flatbed and was amazed at how much better the torsion axles on the featherlite pulled and handled compared to the slipper style I had always used in the past. I'd like to pull a full on air suspension trailer to see the difference that everyone talks about. I also would like to try a GEN-Y gooseneck hitch shock absorber. I'm sure alot of you could care less about my story but I live and breathe this stuff everyday of my life and I enjoy reading and seeing everybody's setup and learn more about what works for different people. There arent any two people alike and what works for me isn't going to work for somebody else. But that's what makes KZbin such a great "tool" for us all because we can get on here and see why this stuff works and get ideas to feed our own passions and desires. Because at the end of the day, when were parking up and going home. The amount of fatigue and pain we feel all comes from the tools we had for the job. Abd when those tools are specially built for the task at hand and user friendly, we have more energy when we get home to spend time with our families instead of having to lay down because we're so exhausted. The extra money is nothing if it improves our quality of life. I enjoy your videos good ol honesty is hard to find these days.

[@quiktransport2969]

DAMN BRO!!! this review was was very much needed and is appreciated i was on the fence about purchasing a Diamond C and you have answered all the questions i had. You definitely get what you pay for and it shows !!! ThanX!

[@VBELTandSON]

K F awesome glad to help!

[@joeevora1674]

You could always just lag down a sacrificial 1x4 or 2x4 to land your excavator blade down on. It’d help you keep it in the same spot every time.

[@pacemetalfab]

Very fair review. Thank you sir. Hydraulic dovetail and jack are a HUGE plus. Money well spent.

[@Setupjustsoicancomme]

The small stuff like steps folding out and sticking out beyond edge of the trailer really catch my eye, nothing like shinning your self trying to step up in the deck.

[@johnjackson9564]

Bearings and alignment makes a lot of difference on how they tow. Weight does make a difference but the other two can make a even bigger difference.

[@johnmazza9432]

What do you mean by bearings and alignment ?

[@cory_97]

diamond c vs old faithful is like comparing an ice cold mountain dew to anything else in a can

[@TheRealPrinceCastro]

Which one is the mountain dew? For a rookie like me

[@jeffreycahill4349]

Diamond C looks pretty good l have two 2016 40 ft Loadmax triple axle 7k trailers with fenders. I don't haul cars but the trailers with fenders have a lower deck less than 3ft. I haul 25K to 30K on deck all the time. Got a 2014 Ram Mega Cab pull all the loads great. One trailer has 17.5 elec. over disc with 17.5 other trailer is drums with 16 inch 18 plys. No problems with trailers except power coat paint is coming off all over the place. They must paint them after metal is in the yard 4 awhile you can see the rust under the paint. Sure l have breaking problems and tire problems when it is real hot. Always run my super heavy loads in the night to keep tires cooler and avoid weight stations. l am at 45K plus on total weight most of the time. Last weight was 47,600 total on empty tank and driver out of truck. No CDL and No Dot number. Looking and new trailers now want at lest 40 ft or longer galvanize ( nnremorques.ca/en/ )must have hydraulic jacks and 15K axles with mega ramps and top deck. Outlaw Trucking

[@briangardiner1015]

That Diamond C is a nice looking trailer. The beam desing is the same as a lot of lowboys that haul heavy equipment.

[@RaddestDad]

Noticed the same thing, what a huge advantage over regular trailers.

[@phillipsmith5013]

You know you dont know what you dont know about a trailer until you have owned one for some time and used it to see what you like and dont like about it. I have a 2014 37 foot deck over 14k gooseneck. It just built over the way I was going to use it. Lots of d-ring weld all along the side of the trailer. The rear dovetail was only the top of the beam dovetailed. With the bottom of the beam remaining flat for more ground clearance. 7 foot fold up vertical car ramps. Full length torque tube. The gooseneck of the trailer is lowered for my lowered truck to keep the hitch from being extended out to far. I was the trailer to haul two rock crawlers and an atv. It's a Hardy built trailer. I installed all led lights and mounted double led lights all the way down the sides of trailer for night hauling. It looks great at night. All lit up.

[@abc123hshdhd8w]

Just bought myself a 27+5 DC with max ramps, absolutely love this trailer I had it loaded with a case sv280, and a bunch of attachments around 20k lbs, and it never lost any of the crown it had when loaded. The hydraulic brakes on this trailer will bring my 2014 f350 to a complete stop going 70 in no time, the hydraulic brakes are insane on these trailers!

[@1towmater1]

I purchased a diamond c 20' tag trailer 5 years ago. I was in Texas, bought a truck and had to have a way to bring it and my SUV home at the same time..... Never been happier! You definitely get what you pay for, and a diamond c is worth ever dime I paid! I've but 11k on a 10k trailer and it didn't care. Tows like a dream and given the options you can order I wish I had had more time to order them, but when in a bind you go with what you can get and I got a beautiful trailer;

[@rchristensen8067]

When you mounted the metal box under the binders I didn’t see if the box had some weep holes in case of rain.

[@VBELTandSON]

R Christensen yup a bunch of cut outs

[@longviewfarm226]

Your dog chose the diamond c that’s enough for me lol. Thanks for the vid on ready to pull the trigger on a similar one the the one you got not as heavy though. Thanks

[@yamyz1818]

You have me looking into diamond c, though I just need a 14k trailer deckover. I was torn between bumper or goose, think I’m going with the goose. Not as fancy but it’s a buggy / truck hauler. I got a quote for 7600 with some extras. So thanks for the input so far they’re the only ones who have responded to my quotes.

[@spencertrailers5419]

Hey this is James from Spencer Trailers Inc. What you might look into is Diamond C's Fmax 207 Engineered Beam Trailer. The GVWR is 15,500. These are excellent trailers. View our inventory at Spencertrailers.com . Look under the Diamond C Engineered Beam tab.

[@derekhuber3392]

@Spencer Trailers You guys are just up the road... I had actually just emailed you guys requesting a quote... but spamming in KZbin comments? Forget it, Spencer Trailers has lost a customer for life.

[@Augiebracerofam]

Drone videos looking great! My trailer is a .....lil Tex 4x8, slipper leaf spring and 12 inch wheels. Had it since 1993.

[@roycegaida5300]

Nice review! I'm waiting on delivery of my Diamond C FMAX210SS for hauling ranch equipment. Should be here next week. 🤞 After researching all brands, Diamond C was the clear winner. Glad I found you're channel, great reinforcement that I made a good decision. Love the stained deck! RG

[@derekhuber3392]

Diamond C really is hard to beat, just out my price range. If I was making a living with it, that would be a different story.

[@LoneWolf-cf5tp]

Dang ! Boone even liked the Diamond better. Lol. That pretty much sealed the deal. 👍🏻

[@myemail2005]

I would love to see video of the dog jumping on and off the trailer! That's quite a jump ESPECIALLY with a big ball in your mouth! (No I haven't tried it myself!)

[@rpalaniz]

Thank you for your time. Should help people buying a new trailer.

[@n0nc0mpliant]

The little round things are a "chain spool" 👍🏻

[@JasonWorksAlot]

All good points, I enjoyed the review, I sold my Kaufman flat bed but still have a 4 car double decker (Kaufman) and a dump trailer gooseneck Kaufman. I’ll be selling the 4 car next year and once we get the farm in the market for another flat bed. I’ve been looking at Winston and sure trac but I’ll add diamond c to my list not as well. I think one of the biggest points you made here that most people just looking for a trailer won’t realize how true it is, is that saving upfront never saves you in the long run. I ended up selling the Kaufman at a huge loss but the fact of the matter was it was too heavy empty to do what I really needed it to do. And part of that is my fault I’ll admit. I didn’t run the numbers to consider expansion in what we were doing. But on the flip side it was 9,000 empty with a 22,500 gvw. Those are pretty sad numbers for a tandem dual 10k setup. But kinda like you said it was the cheapest by far in what I was looking at. It was built very well, and it’s strength and rigidity came from its shear mass for sure. I’ve glanced over a few from Winston 30k gvwr and weights 8,000 empty with hydraulic dovetail, jacks, and a winch on it... I’ll spend the extra 5k to get that over what I had any day of the week knowing what I know now. My 4 car is on the 4th position for the gooseneck as well and it’s got quite a bit of sickout like yours. I took the tube all the way out of the reciever on mine and saw I’ve got about 18” of tube still in there made me feel a lot better. Keep the gib screws tight and you’ll be good. Went from pa to sc and crossed the scale at 39,000 (I’ve got a picture of the load of old muscle cars on my community feed) hilly terrain and all. Not a single hiccup. Best of luck with the new one I’ll be keeping my eye out for any updates on it in the future. Thanks for the video. Take care.

[@vpw1984]

I'm thinking about getting a Kauffman flatbed trailer as my 1st the price is 5,999 with 7k lbs axles with hauling capacity of 12 lbs I will be new to hauling so we have to start some where then later I would get something better from your experience are Kaufman trailers good trailers.

[@JasonWorksAlot]

vpw1984 short term they aren’t bad, but you do get what you pay for. Their axles (in my opinion) are very subpar until you get to the 10k axles. The lower capacity flat decks have a good deal of twist in them, and they wouldn’t upgrade my torq tube even when I asked and was willing to pay. I did an in-depth review on my channel of my dump trailer from them where I go into detail on the axles. One good thing is that it’s really easy to sell a trailer that’s only a year old and you can recoop about 80% of the investment back

[@paulrollinsjr.1845]

Well said Sam. I'm only running a Xtreme car trailer currently, haven't pulled trigger on a big hoss

[@chrisroberts9612]

Diamond C 20ft..2 ramps...spare tire...oak deck...pulls like a dream...couldnt be happier...love it!

[@rockingkvideos3160]

Very well done review Sam. You my friend do a good job of explaining the good, the bad and the ugly better than most. I will say the head cam is a little trippy though. Keep up the great work👍👍👍🇺🇸 on the last video🙄😂

[@BigSmiles214]

Great video. The diamond C cost more because it has more luxuries. Like upgraded floor hydraulic tail and hydraulic jacks and upgraded suspension.

[@triangels]

👍🏼video. The most important asset in any venture is thought!

[@deerepower337]

I will take a Moritz trailer any day over any other trailer especially the neck on a Moritz it is a complete true one piece design with a forward leaning neck with toolbox and steps neatly integrated they are tough build trailers where it matters

[@derekhuber3392]

Why don’t you make a video review and post it?

[@bcbloc02]

I run a 1989 Cornelious(now known as Corn Pro) 23+5ft. The rear deck can be either set flat or beaver style depending what you haul. It has a custom extra tall neck so it can be pulled by a truck with a utility bed. It has somewhere around 200k miles on it. It has dexter 12K dual tandems with currently electric over hydraulic brakes. They were originally vaccum over hydraulic. They worked great either way but hooking and unhooking is way easier with the electric hydraulic and I would not have a trailer with straight electric brakes. I once hauled a 30,000lb load with it 500miles and it did fine. The gross over the scales was 47000 and some change. The trailer is heavy it weighs about 9700lb empty.

[@kennydawson265]

I have the 2019 Down to Earth 34' Gooseneck solid deck flatbed trailer, 4' dovetail included, two axles 14,000 (GVWR), four Provider ST235/85R16 G rated tires. Also six permanent 5,200 lbs ratchet straps, including twelve heavy duty D rings. Good for hauling two cars or general freight. This is my first trailer.

[@quiktransport2969]

DO you like the down to earth trailer??

[@kennydawson265]

It seems to be good so far I added some shims to those removable fender much quieter now. It tracks good with the truck. Smooth ride!

[@bjkline5487]

I've got a 2017 Sure-Trac 22+10 Hydraulic dovetail. I pull it with a 2018 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins. Its just for personal use to haul antique tractors.

[@SureTracTrailersPage]

We appreciate you! Thank you for the shout-out!

[@davidstill754]

That one oak board had a crack/split in it big enough to drop a cow in it, you need to seal that really, really good or you'll have problems with it rather quickly. Super nice trailer thou

[@1978caterpillar]

Sam, sometime could you show / talk about the difference in the axles? I would imagine the Diamond C is using dexters, what did Texas pride use are they dexters? If they aren’t I am curious if the Texas pride 15k axles actually appear any heavier than the 12k axles on the diamond c. Would be interesting to know if the actual internals are any heavier in the Texas pride 15k axles. I had a sub par trailer that had “alko” axles and had constant failures that ultimately ended up with a fire and the hub was glowing brighter than I thought was actually possible on a day when it was so cold my fire extinguisher wouldn’t work (also didn’t know that was a thing) attempted to dump a jug of 30 below washer fluid on it but that was a block of ice too. I like the side by side of the hutch vs slipper suspension the difference is comical and always ticking in the back of my mind too since I once broke one of those main pins in the equalizer on my trailer making a turn at an intersection with a lil too much weight (Mine has a pin where some have a bolt). Anyway if you have the time one day maybe you could show a shot underneath and a good close up dead on of the hub of each. Awesome trailer, thanks.

[@djtrucking8]

1978caterpillar I just recently purchased a 14’ 16K GN Dump Trailer from Texas Pride and it does have Dexter Axles under it. I’ve only had the trailer for about two months now but so far so good. The axles are holding up to this point. The 8K axles are grease bath and not oil so I’m guessing they should last a good while.

[@1978caterpillar]

That’s good, they have always seemed to have a lot of options listed, wasn’t that long ago that the 8k axles were kind of rare to see. I’ve noticed that they seem to put a lot into the roll off style trailers and boxes that they build too.

[@leormz4684]

We own a Texas pride dump trailer and yes, the paint is now looking cloudy gray. We’ve had it for about a year now. Great video with good info.

[@Bradamsmx5]

Great info on the GN trailers. I had noticed the Diamond C trailers had radius on the neck instead of square with gussets. I had not noticed that it was one piece. Great for structural integrity. You were asking for input about experience with other trailers. I have had a couple of inexpensive bumper pull trailers over the years. Namely they were Quality and Curahee. The Curahee was a 18' (15+3), 10k, wood deck equipment trailer. The Quality was a 21' (18+3), 10k, steel deck car hauler. Both ran on Lippert 5k ez lube axles with brakes on both axles. The Curahee never pulled right. Empty or loaded to the max, it always seemed to want to wander. The Quality was a great pulling trailer. Never had any issues out of it at all. Having said that, neither of those could hold a candle to a Big Tex. Empty or full, it didn't matter. Big Tex 21' (18+3), 14k, wood deck. It pulled straight, true, smooth, and comfortable every time. All were pulled by the same truck ('03 Ram 3500, SRW, 4x4, crew cab, diesel, auto). Engineering plays a huge role in the behavior and characteristics of a trailer. Less expensive doesn't always mean bad. But in my experience, it's definitely better to pay a little more for the peace of mind and convenience that comes with a better engineered piece of equipment.

[@derekhuber3392]

Thanks for putting this together. I’ve spent countless hours researching brands and options. Finally went with MAXXD 20’ car hauler. I had been looking at Texas Pride, but it’s just an ugly trailer, and this vid confirmed my fears about their paint. I I I liked Rice, but the factory box is odd shaped and not weather tight, and the under the deck winch plate is wonky. For the same money as the Rice MAXXD gives rub rails and rear stab jacks.

[@Sproutt]

I have seen a guy make his own deck for his trailer and it looked real nice. I think it was oak too.

[@jeffr2500hd]

I ran a big tex gooseneck and loved the trailer paint was horrible though, bought a dumptruck and needed a bumper hitch trailer again, i bought a diamond c and by far the best trailer I've ever been around, paint is a+ trailer pulls like a dream as well. Very high quality trailer would recommend it to anyone on any level

[@baloobass4846]

Nice review as always.👌 Here in Sweden it’s hard and expensive to get gooseneck “legal”. So We have regular flatbed trailer or big rigs instead. But soon I “maybe” have a gooseneck!☺️🤦‍♂️😉 Great job as usual with vids and content 💪

[@clintonboyer1217]

I had a 98 Dodge custom built 35'" tires 5-6" lift, flatbed with the bed corners cut off, pulling a PJ that was bumper pulled (Powder-coated, about 2008 model, great 14K trailer/ sounds like they have sold out... ) that pulled like a gooseneck. The tongue of the trailer went under the truck - could touch the rear tire with useable 8 foot bed in the middle hence the dovetail bed didn't stick out on the sides. Dual brakes on the trailer was great slowing the truck faster with a old case skid-steer. Not a fan of pulling with a lifted truck and big tires, but it did act like a gooseneck. If you order extra D-rings you need to specific about placement. I had 40 on the deck, was not happy with PJ having no rings between the axles so I had to add 4 more.

[@DaddyDynamite01]

Excellent job on the video. I have and am very pleased with Stoll flat bed gooseneck trailers. Thanks W.H.L

[@trblmkr100]

Thanks for the video. The Diamond C Trailer is one of the best I have seen so far while looking for a gooseneck equipment trailer. I am actually spec'ing out a FMAX212 35' x 102" with a local dealer now. I am currently pulling a Big Tex 25DU-20 with a GVWR of 25,900 lbs. and net payload of 17,340 lbs. I was pulling this trailer with a 2016 F350 Lariat with Ford's High-Capacity Trailer Tow Package which is really a F450 front end. This package from Ford takes my F350 GCWR from 31,900 lbs. to 35,000 lbs. Earlier this year I found a deal on a 2019 F550 with a 11' Knapheide flatbed and just had to buy it, so now the F550 does all the pulling. I feel like I have plenty of truck capacity to pull around two skid steers with attachments etc.. or one E85 with attachments, but trying to decide on a good length on a FMAX212 to buy now. Have you been happy with the 30' trailer you bought or wish you have went with a 32' or 35' instead? Thanks again for all the good videos.

[@Pan_Gotti]

I just got a kaufman single car hauler for all my project trucks and cars I'm bringing home and I tell you what I feel you on the paint quality, no complaints or problems yet on my trailer but the paint was chipping off and gone on the d rings before I even drove it off the lot.

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

This is a huge help in the decision making process 👍

[@djtrucking8]

I bought a used 24’ 12K GN TOPHAT a little over a year ago after renting trailers for a year, it’s what I use to carry all my equipment right now and we recently bought a 14’ 16K TEXAS PRIDE GN Dump Trailer to carry our own materials on small jobs. They get the job done but there are improvements I want to make on future trailers. That Diamond C looks like a HOSS!

[@tp8030]

I have a tophat 32 now. I've had lots of them. The only one that compared was a Big Tex..The top hat is a good trailer, but its heavy. It weighs 8400 empty

[@Gabriel-rr5vb]

Thank you for the vital information.

[@anthonystamper3355]

There is a man that loves his trailer

[@heyinway]

His dog approves also !

[@kennybates6216]

On the Texas Pride where the pin goes through the nose it has a extra pice of metal that goes around it the Diamond C does not we have a trailer that does not have the extra pice of metal where the pin goes through the nose and it flattens out that steel around the pin so watch it close and keep them bolts tight on the nose

[@Jimbel500]

I have a dump trailer from Texas Pride and it has served me well for 1+ year. I talked to a guy that had a Diamond C and the cost was 3 times almost 4 times the cost of my Texas Pride. Diamond C was sweet but it is like comparing a Honda to a Mercedes. They both will get you there, one does it in style and comfort but the other is not bad at all. 5 minutes maybe saved???? Could be worth it, but I don't think so. I bought a 20' Top Hat bumper pull with flip down ramps. It does the job. only other trailer I have is a 10x6 utility. I have a You Tube page, Maybe I will make a video on our equipment. Just like you said, whatever you pick I think you cannot go wrong with either of these trailers. I will always turn my head when a Diamond C passes by just like I do when Ferrari passes me. Great looking trailer, I am to tight for that and don't pull full time either. Good video.

[@TheMr9fingers]

Something you may have touched on but one of the things we learned at least for Washington state its not what you register the truck/trailer for but what it max cap is so because truck is ref for 13500 and trailer is 14000 and truck is marked 24000 because 13500 and 14000 bring combined weight over 26000 requires CDL

[@VBELTandSON]

Easier to just get your cdl and never have to worry about that stuff

[@paularchuleta8266]

Hey I was playing ball with my red healer when I started this video really enjoy your channel

[@heyinway]

Solar panel to keep breakaway battery charged ! Great idea. Diamond C is sweet trailer. Texas Pride is ok for what it was designed for....rough and tumble oilfield drivers and roads. And that Hutch suspension is awesome. The suspension on the Texas Pride shouldn't be on anything beyond a landscape trailer. It is too flimsy...most people don't grease the center pin...it wears badly and lets that rocker box wear out internally...it eventually fails and not pretty when the springs get wonky.

[@sprucegoose1016]

Thx for doing this Sam 😎 I have a 30' loadtrail tri axle single wheel my self with slide in ramps. Very cheap trailer but got me into it. My next trailer will be exactly like your new one 😎👍I'm trying to get setup to do mulching/land clearing, and snow removal in the winter. Your videos have helped me out so much Sam. You have filled the void for sure. Maybe I'll buy a cat tracked skidsteer with a fae head and bring it down one year and have a competition lol

[@spencertrailers5419]

James here from Spencer Trailers Inc. We have several Fmax Models in stock. We try to offer the best prices on the Diamond C Fleet Necks. View our stock at Spencertrailers.com

[@andresflores6480]

Like your videos, The points that you’re making r great But you got to remember when that new trailer gets old changing hydraulic lines that leak changing hydraulic or just maintenance on it will be more of a pain in the ass than the basic trailer they both got the pros and cons but the basic trailer it’s less maintenance

[@VBELTandSON]

Andres Flores like upgrading from a bicycle to a motorcycle yeah more stuff going on but it is so very well worth it. 🤠

[@devinburke95_yjwillysediti48]

I'm running all home made trailers every trailer we have we built

[@kennydawson265]

Awesome!

[@carof08]

If your a very knowledgeable welder certified that's the way to go because all of these trailer manufacturers are fast produced and squirted together with short circuit mig which is a scary thing if you've welded for a long time and seeing stuff break that looked beautiful but when we looked literally no penetration they do it because it's cheap for hardwire and they can go in all positions it's 7018 or a 71t1 gas shielded fluxcore for me it's ductility and fusion speaks for it's self

[@thefumminspagerpope4452]

Awesome review!! Texas pride was a good starter trailer, but that Diamond C is the real deal!

[@warrenmichael918]

glad he had them together but not a good comparison is it ? I mean, Texas Pride is on the lower end of options and the Diamond C is all pimped out with oak and better suspension with a hydro dove ! Kinda like saying my caddy is a better car than my toyota, of course it is, its a more expensive model...

[@VBELTandSON]

just showing yeah its worth to spend the extra bucks.. and if you caddy is delivering pizza you are making the same as the Toyota. same job different look I guess

[@warrenmichael918]

wasnt a knock, im glad you showed what you did. Both are nice but the DC is much nicer ! I wonfer if the Tex.Pride was equipped exactly the same, how would they compare after using both...

[@TheMr9fingers]

Running 2015 Chevy Duramax crewcab with loadtrail deckover 24 foot hauling for a Plastic company as internal hot shot 500 mile round trips 2 times a week and also 2 time a week traveling across border we made a few mistakes and have been learning a lot on being compliant DOT number CDL etc

[@TooTallharley]

Digging the Bad Cherry hat. I am looking at getting a gooseneck tilt deck trailer or an inclosed race trailer. That way I can haul my toys around and have the space for future toys. kinda why I am leaning to the tilt deck goose neck and then put a pop up camper on the goose neck.

[@VBELTandSON]

bad cherry is in your kit

[@clintonboyer1217]

I appreciate the treated plywood floor in my Look Trailer 7*14. A drop deck gooseneck could be a nice spot for your pop up camper saving more room for toys.

[@alanlozano2904]

I use my fmax12 30' out in west texas great trailer, going threw lease roads with weight can kill your equipment. Its held on good takes the work load like a champ worth every penny imo

[@larrythompson8630]

Well you compared a tradesman 3/4 ton gas to the top trim version dually diesel. Be fun turning sharp with full load on dry pavement. Variety of trailers. Enclosed, GN flatbed, bumper hitch flatbed for smaller stuff, dump trailer, cattle trailer...

[@5150cash]

Looked like the neck was longer on the C trailer from the drone shot. But they both look like good trailers. Just one shows more loved marks because it was used like it was meant to.

[@bobber55]

I believe engineered beams is the way to go. It's very easy to spec it out to the customers needs. Rather than just adding extra heavy beams. So in conclusion, due to your evaluation I would choose Diamond C. Semi trailers has been using engineered beams for years and it's nice to see they're scaling it down for the smaller GVWR trailers. Nice job on your unbiased evaluation.

[@NavySturmGewehr]

Yeah that's the part that confused me. How did they get a patent on a design that's been around for decades? I mean Diamond C builds a beautiful trailer but, how did they patent a design all the big boys have been using forever?

[@bobber55]

@@NavySturmGewehr Can't say I'm not an expert on that. However, if a trailer manufacturer designs a specific design of a certain function of a trailer, that particular design could be patented but not the process of getting it to that stage. And that brings up another question cutting steel plate and making your own I beam or wide flange beam is that infringing on a patent? Don't know. Maybe someone can comment that does have expertise on this subject.

[@NavySturmGewehr]

@@bobber55 I used to run a waterjet, we cut all kinds of different patterns for engineered beams. Nothing against Diamond C, good on them for having a robust, modern design. Just find it curious they got a patent for a well known construction method.

[@bobber55]

@@NavySturmGewehr Well like I said, maybe the patent is for the end product (trailer design) and not the process to make the materials.

[@clintkysar1446]

If had the money i would buy a hull hp, hydraulic tilt deck all the deck is usable and it's fast i don't know if they have a high enough gvw for you though i would look into them for your next purchase.

[@RFDelder]

Nice trailer. I’ve been eyeing Diamond C long before I found your channel. I really like their products. I currently run a 14k Gatormade lowpro gooseneck and a 14k betterbuilt.

[@johnmazza9432]

And how do you like your trailers ?

[@timbalabuck422]

One thing you forgot to mention. The Diamond C has sway control which is a tube up the center of the trailer locking both beams together which greatly increase the strength and rigidity of the trailer. Great video!

[@VBELTandSON]

That’s true. But the Texas pride has that also

[@timbalabuck422]

@@VBELTandSON Sorry didn't realize that, don't see many Texas pride trailers in Canada. Do see a fair number of Diamond C and I love them. Just can't justify the $$$$ at this point to own one. Looking at used Load Trail, PJ, Southbend, ABU and Double A currently. You did point out some points that I had not previously thought to look at. Thanks for your excellent point of view. May get upset with the used prices in the end and buy new yet. Banks have lots of money. LOL

[@KeeganVera]

Thank you my friend, I've been asking myself which gooseneck I should buy for the past 2 days!

[@malcolmwatt7686]

just bought one, only complaint is i didnt get the hydro jacks!! thanks for the tips i love it!

[@dalehansen5050]

I'm going for the Texas Pride, heavier steel always lasts longer, especially up here in road salt.

[@tyrrellroach5872]

I’m currently running. 14 k , 16 ft dump nice trailer but it has some things I don’t like. For instance the trailer weighs just under 5k. Where my old dump was an old Maxy and it weighed right around 4 k. It was 2 ft shorter but that’s a big difference in cargo capacity. Also don’t like how high the frame is off the ground feel like I need to lift the truck to be able to hook to it. I does dump well and trails well. That said nice trailers I have kicked around getting a goose neck to haul landscaping equipment for a couple years now but will likely just keep using the dump trailer

[@clintonboyer1217]

what brand is the new one?

[@eddiebriscoe8156]

I have a 2013 Big Tex 20+5 that I use to haul my mulcher on but in the near future I'll be getting a Diamond C with the same setup as yours lol

[@johnmazza9432]

How do you like your big tex ?

[@corneliuolar7663]

$price...??Great review..but what about price$$?

[@VBELTandSON]

Corneliu Olar Msrp on dc was 28k. Texas pride out the door was 14.5. Depends on your options and if you can haggle

[@soulsmusic15]

@@VBELTandSON 😱🤮

[@l_shaun_bunds_l]

V-BELT and SON phew weee. This is it the door right? Not like oh cool employee pricing form ram and 69 turns into 89k

[@l_shaun_bunds_l]

So diamond c was 28k Msrp?

[@debbiedenman4741]

I'm currently in the market for a trailer to haul hay and equipment. Thank you for posting.

[@NicT09]

You should swap the gooseneck out with a Gen-Y gooseneck torsion hitch. It’ll add a little height back for you and it’ll improve the ride quality!

[@qmax-en5ry]

$100,000 for a forestry skid steer $35,000 for a forestry mulcher $50,000 1 ton diesel 4x4 truck $15,000 for a 2 #12,000 axle trailer Plus, chain saws,buckets for skid steer, tide down supplies,etc. IF someone wants to get into this just think about it

[@VBELTandSON]

Money money money

[@dieselshadow]

Thanks for sharing your opinions and experiences with these trailers. I’ve already decided to go FMAX212SS for my next (first) GN trailer, almost identical to yours. I would love for you to go further into detail on the brakes. I’d like to see them, the hardware, how you set them up, and get just more info on them in general. It’s a large chunk of change to upgrade to the electric over hydraulic disc brakes, so I’d like to feel better about checking that box. It also looks like you have to go 32’ to get the optional air ride. I’m not sure I need to go there. I know you don’t have one, but it’s be cool to hear what you think about that as well. I’m sure you kicked that around. Most fellas don’t realize your “Hutch” suspension is called the HDSS option through Dexter. For DiamondC that’s a fairly inexpensive option that should be checked on trailers of this class. Keep up these informative videos. And please ease up on the dizzying head cam. It’s good for a few shots, but not continuously. 😆

[@MarkPdot]

My current truck, purchased used, has a gooseneck hitch. Not sure what all the truck towed but I'd like to borrow a gooseneck trailer to see what it's like before I'd buy one. First I need to get safety chain loops installed. Not sure why the loops aren't already there.

[@djjomarflipside7982]

Yo V-Belt & Son I appreciate you for your time.. Making this video..😎

[@logandorsey7452]

Personally running a Big Tex pipe top, 12k gross trailer, hauling tractors. Absolutely love it, but it leaves some things to be desired, like I would really like to go with a gooseneck on my next one. For the size of it, I find it rides a bit hard, even when "at" max weight

[@Theblindfarmer]

Barron is what I have 25ft 29k great for hauling my farm machinery and hay

[@johnmazza9432]

How do you like it ?

[@theoiv]

(HOT SHOT Driver Here) I got a Big Tex 40 foot goose with mega ramps and i hate it. Looks like Diamond C will be my next big purchase.

[@VBELTandSON]

Theo Baker what don’t you like about the big Tex?

[@theoiv]

@@VBELTandSON seems like I'm always touching up the paint as well as wire brushing rust spots. I've had two axle failures as well as total hub axle separation during a haul from Austin to New Orleans with only 12k onboard. My power unit is a 2018 Ram Laramie 3500 H/O Cummins W/ Aisin transmission. Trailer flex (Bounce) is scary on less than great road conditions and I got the torque option. The electric brake magnets have been the most replaced items by far. Ohh, did I mention the rust all over the place. One year into it and only 120k highway miles. That is the last time I buy bigtex.

[@wiseandhumble2470]

Love the drone work.. Killin it

[@naterod5617]

Great video! It's probably paint on Texas Pride vs. Powdercoat on the Diamond C. Powdercoat is much thicker and more durable if done right.

[@RacingTheReaperXV]

Recently picked up a Load Warrior 36ft 22K gooseneck with the top deck above the tongue. I believe its about 8900lbs.

[@loft306]

Nice vid. I’m running a 2004 steel featherlite 24’ dovetail , with slide in ramps , single wheels it weighs 5,600# and has running gear for 14,000# And it still has its paint(was a farm trailer and was kept in a shed(and the paint is Imron))we have hauled a 12,000# baby backhoe but only in town(slow and heavy) and the trailer chassi didn’t flex but the tires weren’t happy. I sware they built one chassi for singles and a skinny frame for duals to the max rating then under sprung them for the lighter rated ones. Too bad they don’t make the steel ones anymore. I only haul jeeps and buggies it for fun now.

[@renohuskerdu4592]

I bought a PJ 21k dump and it's been good, I love the 10 gauge construction. But frankly, assembly was crap. I spent hours fixing stuff on it before putting it into service. Asking around, it seems almost all trailers are put together pretty sloppy these days.

[@VBELTandSON]

RenoHuskerDu I just checked out a diamond c dump trailer that had been used for last year day in and day out. Zero issues. Holding up great. I have a tnt dump trailer myself and I have had to fix anything or modify anything on it yet. Several years old now. I haven’t heard the best about pjs build quality.

[@renohuskerdu4592]

@@VBELTandSON It looks like they offer everything I got on mine including 12" on center and 10 gauge steel, except solid metal side extensions. I wish I'd known before buying the PJ, oh well. If you know any PJ owners, tell them to join the PJ Trailers Owners group on FB (facebook.com/groups/510567116153442/) because PJ doesn't let anybody post on their FB pages. PJ got bought a few years back and quality's gone down. It's an old story ...

[@daveh4106]

Alum-line 20' gooseneck derated to 16k, keeps me under the CDL Of course, no steel tracks and I carry a few chunks of carpet for chafing pads.

[@ckryegrass11]

Diamond C uses plate steel that is bent in a press brake. Way stronger and durable than welded structural steel.

[@05greendmax]

That was my choices Texas pride vs diamond c I chose diamond c

[@minituck04]

Ranch King utility trailer but looking at a gooseneck car hauler. Really like all the Diamond C trailers and their features. Hopefully I can find a dealer to get me a good deal on one.

[@joeevora1674]

And thank you for the very informative and eloquently thought out video. Seriously helped me with what to look for!

[@jeffleblanc8850]

Love them trailers would look good behind my ole dually although it’s got a ole 6.5 so prob to much for the ole truck isn’t ther a nicer one out now it looks really nice a bunch of new dangled stuff on the front I believe to do with suspension on the front hitch