Eastern and Western Lenses to Analytic Idealism | Swami Sarvapriyananda & Bernardo Kastrup

[@lunita1167]

This is the perfect pair to discuss this issue! Ancient teachings are found to be consistent with modern theory of reality. Very satisfying!

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

two of my favourite human beings alive on this planet today. Wonderful discussion. Thank you, whoever organised this, and Bernardo and Swamiji, of course.

[@krishnapartha]

Amen

[@philosophybabble]

Delighted to hear you enjoyed the discussion

[@Jivanmuktaintraining]

The radio drone analogy was brilliant. Such a wonderful synthesis of modern science and ancient wisdom. Bernardo has a beautiful mind. As, of course, does Swami Sarvipriyananda.

[@lencoller6477]

Wonderful ,, enjoyed every minute.❤

[@francisdebriey3609]

Waouhhh, what a level of intelligence on both sides ! And imagine this : they share the same conclusion from individual spiritual and philosophical endeavors and perspectives so separate in time and space : western analytical philosophy of today vs Indian religion of thousands years ago. I am amazed about this fact.

[@francisdebriey3609]

@michaelmcclure3383 Well, Bernardo has at least one disciple : me ! It is so fulfilling to listen to people like Bernardo and Swami. I also like Tom Campbell and Rupert Sheldrake. All share this idea that matter is not fundamental. Consciousness is.

[@Mr00000111]

Because TRUTH is ONE :)

[@kennyhaughan9605]

I feel the electricity in this discussion. so profound and enlightening, bursting with truth and clarity

[@MGN01]

Just amazed by the wisdom and knowledge of Swamiji and Bernardo while both exhibiting so much humility. Hallmark of greatness of both of these great souls.

[@katemacdonald]

Just brilliant. We need to emulate the deep and respectful listening and humility that we see so clearly in this conversation !

[@geethapandurangan7894]

Just wow !!

[@gurutube77]

One of the best KZbin video for Humanity. Spiritual seekers will be benefited for many many years....

[@innerlight617]

Love Swamiji's and Bernardo's interactions!! ॐ ❤ 🙏Grateful to both!

[@liviuclipa]

Always nice to see Bernardo engaging with eastern philosophy.

[@sudipbiswas5185]

Always great to listen Swami Ji. Got Gossebumps, When Bernardo described present with respect to reducing time.

[@Stephenskandhas42]

Swami Ji and Dr. Kastrup, please accept my greatest appreciation, not for the intellect alone, but for your mutual love and admiration, and understanding of the deepest truth of the conceptual trap, which can sometimes even seem to separate the wisdom traditions whom, as you say, Swami Ji, often directly say the same thing, when in appropriate context. Why would we come to any other conclusion? Haha. It is a Dzogchen term, but I'm sure recognizable: the Great Perfection. This is the prajnaparamita, as I think you are well aware, Swami Ji. Neem Karoli Baba Ji often spoke of the perfection of existence, as of course did Sri Ramakrishna Parahamsa Ji, and I believe Swami Vivekananda stated it explicitly, but I am not sure. It is just so beautiful, at every brief glimpse. Namaste, blessings, peace peace peace. Thank you so much

[@Killane10]

This awakening to higher truths with different perspectives from people full of wisdom is really what the world needs right now ❤❤❤

[@angelotuteao6758]

These two thinkers make me proud to be a human being. The way BK comes to the same conclusions as Vedic philosophers comes as no surprise to those who practice self enquiry ❤

[@HighCountryStudio]

Deeply meaningful to me. Thank you both.

[@nsprphg]

I am happy for the acknowledgment to the ancient Sanata knowledge from Bardano. Other in history have claimed this knowledge as their own due the Christian doctrine of Discovery-claiming land and knowledge as their own if it didn’t belong to the Christian world. They both have amazing grasp of the Truth.

[@krishnapartha]

We are blessed to see these two giants together having “tea.”

[@scmitten]

Delightful. Grateful.

[@anandgupta9854]

There goes hard problem of consiouness! Very well explained by Bernardo.

[@madamefeemy]

Please make this a regular conversation series! Better yet, please do a podcast / interview in which you discuss idealism w/ people from both the scientific & spiritual sides of the discussion. Would be an incredible service to humanity!

[@renup2861]

Thank you so much !! It was such truly delightful conversation to attend to !! Thank you all 🙏

[@tlittle6539]

Wow, what a wonderful conversation. When swami is dealing with deep stuff he remains clear and understandable. The Hindus figured out this “meaning of life” stuff a long time ago. It’s humbling for a Westerner.

[@beverlyscholz5007]

I am deeply grateful and blessed to see Bernardo being connected to and recognized with such clarity, humility, and appreciation as the Swami brings. I have been yearning that he "find spirituality" and whether he sees it or yet not, it engulfs him/itself in Love in this talk with this audience.💓💓💓💓

[@Shelly-cp7gj]

What a gift. Absolutely wonderful. Complementary perspectives, shared with clarity, authenticity, humility and absolute practicality… highest honors to you. This is the best video on the internet! May All turn toward the Light of Truth which you have shared so beautifully. 🙏

[@JessicaCooper-m4i]

I’m open minded in regard to idealism .

[@geoffwalker5884]

Wonderful conversation ! Listened to both before but this dialogue is so profound and gifting . Thank you so much for this rich sharing 🙏

[@kathryzebra831]

Ah(sana)! The mystery of faith (ishvarahpranidhana). When numbers ‘precede’ experience and or when experience precedes numbers for correct answers and or arrivals. Vie-a-vie; Hatha!

[@Studio-pg4sq]

This is such a different exchange than this video "2023-10-26 Bernardo Kastrup & Michael James: Analytic Idealism and Ramana Maharshi's Advaita". Thank you Swami Ji & Bernardo.

[@Pallasathena-hv4kp]

I had been watching that video of James and Kastrup also. I didn’t finish it as it seemed somewhat full of frustration towards the end. I have not decided if I will watch the rest of that exchange.

[@BeAsYouAre108]

​@@Pallasathena-hv4kpIt was. I was disappointed in how Bernardo handled things. Michael James did a follow-up video on solipsism from a non-dual perspective that Bernardo should watch.

[@liviuclipa]

@@BeAsYouAre108would you link the video please

[@JA-gz6cj]

I didn't like that exchange either, looking forward to watching this one

[@KriB510]

Thank you for mentioning this video; I may not have come across it otherwise. I enjoyed it; I thought it was rather elucidating, even if awkward at times. Even the frustration level was elucidating imo, and I don't mind frustration where learning is concerned because I think it often times precedes or accompanies learning. It looked that Kastrup was the frustrated one.

[@SoyOtroTu]

I enjoy and love being an action of THAT, Nothing, Everything and One, simultaneously!

[@dextercool]

A meeting of minds happens and novel insights result - a wonderful conversation.

[@mokshajetley9244]

Pranaam Swami Saravpriyananda ji

[@ksachin5]

All is good seller of veda

[@oneminutereads7103]

Wonderful how the structure of language decided the structure of thought and experience...linguistics, structuralism, deconstruction, are so important in understanding that there is no time....then back to the pain and puzzle of existence for me 😮...

[@jyotsnapathania9590]

Pranam swami ji Advait explains the profound consciousness is and without which no sensation no experience How well you explain

[@sumitrabrahma4466]

Hari Om Swamiji 🙏🏼 🪔

[@slowwco]

Very much looking forward to this, thank you both!

[@pramodrai3199]

Pranam Swami Jee 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Pallasathena-hv4kp]

Nice dialogue. Pranams 😊🌺🙏

[@jayrajapakse5379]

Very interesting and intelligent talk by both..

[@hal758]

Really enjoy this conversation.

[@pramilasrinivasansrinivasa3557]

Namaskarams🙏🙏🙏 Swami ji So happy to watch, listen to you🙏 Love❤ and Respect 🙏🙏🌹

[@abhishek-px4jj]

Bernardo and Swamiji sheer bliss ❤

[@Customfever-l8v]

Swami is on another level

[@vivix9608]

In my modest opinion this it because one speaks out of the most briliant reasoning, the other one from direct experience..

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

❤ The Sattvic state of the mind enables us to experience the freedom, fullness, and peace of our divine essence. There is no other way, and there is no doubt about this. The only condition to experience happiness at the psychological level and the bliss of our divine essence is the purity of mind and heart. Any other idea has nothing to do with reality.

[@youtubecanal]

Thank you for this great metaºhisics and philosophycal talk. I think that the "rubber hand experience" is a good example to talk about the mental event of pain and body image representation.

[@tzadik36]

Pronaams!🙏 Namaste!🙏 Namashkaars to all!🙏

[@AsifKhan-bv3iu]

I love this podcast

[@IndiraKishore]

Excellent way carrier wave as the base of all the music as the witness of emptiness, sunya also wah great!

[@mitalibhattacharya823]

Amazing..🙏❤

[@angelotuteao6758]

What I’m fascinated by is how consciousness seems to be connected to beings that metabolise- I would love Bernardo to discuss the links between metabolism and consciousness

[@e.d.3729]

thank you swamiji.

[@888mabraham]

I am listening this the 2nd time. Bernardo is correct. I could listen to Swami hours at a time. At the same time, Bernado offers the scientific perspective on it. 😊

[@bkgupta6356]

And that's why we say consciousness is transcendental eternal everywhere and all cells are generating operating in consciousness.

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

❤ The highest Samadhi is the absence of any sense of "I" and "mine." No other condition is needed to experience freedom and peace. In the absence of the "I," life simply is. This experience can be temporary when the "I" subsides and continuous when the "I" has been dissolved through ongoing practice.

[@UM8831-u8m]

Swamiji 🙏

[@Vision_Of_Realities]

Jai Sri Ramakrishna 🌺🌺🌺🙏🐚

[@michaeldillon3113]

Is this the same video that appeared on Philosophy Babble about 5 months ago ? 🙏🕉️

[@weekendresearcher]

Yes, it is the same video with some edits at the start. I had that video downloaded 5 months back and had played it almost once a week. Each time new insights.

[@michaeldillon3113]

@@weekendresearcher Thanks for that . I wondered if it reappeared due to the posting on KZbin , the day before , of Michael James chatting with Bernardo Kastrup . Another interesting chat .🙏🕉️

[@skandi86]

Mind blowing ☯️

[@tanukagupta8416]

PRONAM Maharaj 🌹🙏🙏🙏🌹

[@BodyEchoProductions]

The greatest thing You'll ever learn Is just to love And be loved in return

[@mokshajetley9244]

Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna

[@clivejenkins4033]

A masterclass video 💯👌

[@swamivedantanandapuri1322]

Pranaam maharaj🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@mokshajetley9244]

Namaste Professor Bernardo

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

42:00: ❤ Yes the mind in the dream becomes all those dream objects as it becomes all waking objects. It is the mind that becomes all the experienced forms either with aid of the senses or the aid of the impressions that are stored in the subconscious mind. As for the forms we see in dreams but never seen in the external world, the mind is creative and with the power of imagination can create infinite variations. 😮

[@sunisagotirat1332]

Wow!..👁💥💫🙏🙏

[@krishnamurthimuthuswami3521]

Charana Vandana Swamiji

[@anveshrajeshirke285]

Atman never misses any event but this body which doesn’t exist, this mind which doesn’t exist wish to see Swami & Bernard live on you tube. Could the Brahman arrange one more live question & answer session? Many thanks. Pranam Guru ji 🙏🏽

[@ramasubramanianvenkateswar399]

Can I request Swami Sarva Priyananda to take sessions on the commentary on Vedanta Paribhasha please.

[@dragonskinavi]

Is this a new interview, or the one uploaded early this year (around then)? Asking because I don't want to waste time, thanks.

[@Birbhadra011]

My regards to both Bernardo and Swamiji. Loved the discourse from both sides. But I am confused. Whether this is the right platform to put my question. I want to make a distinction between consciousness, physical self, and awareness because one is aware only when consciousness is together with the physical self. For example, pain is felt by a conscious self. If consciousness and physical self are kept apart, there will be no awareness. But if put together, one is aware of pain. So who is feeling the pain? consciousness, physical self, or the awareness generated from the fusion of consciousness and the self.

[@renup2861]

Universal Magic

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

❤The pure mind remains still by itself. No effort, devotion, or other practice is needed once the mind is purified. All other practices serve to purify and concentrate the mind, addressing its impurity, extroversion,. distraction and agitation. ❤When the mind becomes entirely pure, free from egoic tendencies and desire, it naturally remains still. ❤ Desire is what causes oscillation and motion in the mind. Hence, freedom from desire, or desirelessness, is the path to liberation and self-realization.😮

[@sunitideshmukh6285]

🙏🙏PRANAAM MAHARAJ

[@johnpaily]

Great talk. We are now in singularity consciousness. But it is bound to split into duality.

[@Corteum]

Interesting. How do you figure that we are now in singularity consciousness?

[@Stephenskandhas42]

Bernardo is fan-boying a bit, very charming :) edit: look at Swami Ji! Mutual fan boy-ing a bit, haha Also, Bernardo appeared on Points of Convergence podcast to discuss the UAP topic as it relates to Analytic Idealism, or non duality. 2 part-er, highly recommended

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

59:00 ❤ The metal bottle exists by itself and not because we perceive it, (that is because we are conscious or aware of it.) We cannot deny the existence of the "material" objects no being conscious of them since they also are consciousness as us. They do not need a conscious observer to exist for the simple reason they also are consciousness appearing as objects.

[@johnpaily]

Great Great Great

[@sumitdutta7043]

Also upload the talk between Donald Hoffman and Swami Sarvapriyananda.

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

Good Girl! 👌 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

I am patiently awaiting your response to my question, SLAVE. ☝🏼

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

Is it any wonder you are probably SINGLE.💔 If you are unwilling to answer even a SIMPLE question, how on earth can you sustain a full and lifelong relationship?🤔

[@anjanbrahmachari2968]

Is this a new talk or re publication of the previously uploaded talk?

[@S_C_A_000]

This is a repost of the previous talk they had around 6 months ago

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

38:00: ❤ We cannot experience things without consciousness, but all things exist in themselves even though they are not experienced, even though there is no one who is conscious of them, for the simple reason that everything is formless consciousness appearing as form, as all these forms that we perceive in this universe. You have to understand that the room you mention in your example, exists by itself even if there is no one conscious of it, because the room is consciousness like us. The only difference is that we, as this psychobiological structure have the ability to be aware of ourselves and other forms, while the room cannot be aware of itself and aware of other forms, because it lacks the necessary equipment. 😮

[@tryst1384]

1:30:30....wow 👍

[@iramtauqir5333]

Very interesting. There is separateness, or specificity of different phenomena, and there is onnesess. In my view separateness, specificity becomes the building block for mind to come into being, and later on minds evolution to the birth of human consciousness. Of course for the whole of Nature, nothing is outside of it, even separateness is a part of the whole. In human consciousness, nature starts becoming conscious for the first time, and now the journey of the whole upgrades itself qualitatively.

[@indicphilosopher8772]

There are no parts/separateness.. There is only whole.. Parts/separateness are in mind only.. Not real..

[@liviuclipa]

My question is: Is that still mind with which i experienced satchitananda eternal? Let's say there wil be self realization and the ego is dissolved and in the end the body will die as well, what remains? I know consciousness remains but will there be an eternal point of view of void or whatever? Or another body will arise and yet another ego and so on?

[@Pallasathena-hv4kp]

At 57:00 I seem to understand how language and numbers(Nama/Rupa) “floating in space” could be “void” according to Buddhists when investigated closely.

[@indicphilosopher8772]

Forms are vulnerable Formless is invulnerable 😎

[@ALavin-en1kr]

Bernardo does a good job too of explaining consciousness. Hopefully he can reach the materialists.

[@Leela_ya_Maaya]

🙏

[@krishnapartha]

Okay. ❤

[@Corteum]

Bernado, we still gotta make that old DAI PC conscious! How are we gonna do it? Maybe Swami has some ideas. Or what if we do a ritual kind of process with Sadhguru and put some consciousness into the computer that way, sort of like how he consecrated Dhyanalinga? What do you think

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

❤ As long as ego and tendencies are alive in us even though we have realized (awakened) that we are unlimited Being-Consciousness suffering is inevitable, no doubt😮. And also the fear of death does not disappear by the mere realization that we are timeless , Deathless Consciousness. Suffering disappears completely by the total dissolution of the ego.....

[@amartinakis]

Bernardo is "The Bridge"

[@widipermono854]

🙏🙏🙏

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

39:00 ❤ It is unreasonable and not in reasonance with our experience to say that since we talk now about the appearance of the universe some time ago, it is not so, because all this happens now in our minds. You are identified with this way of thinking as other advaitins as well and because of this you cannot examine it objectively. You have to understand that everyone in the universe and the universe itself is consciousness and that's why can exist even though no one is aware of it. If you miss this point, you are going to be caught in this limited perception, believing that everything happens in OUR consciousness and that's why doesn't exist in OUR consciousness. But you miss that everything is consciousness and doesn't need is to exist and undergo the evolutionary process according to kra nature. So, yes the universe could exist even though no human being or other beings from any other planets of the universe are aware of it.😮

[@eshanthasamarasekera5007]

"Consciousness" according to Lord Buddhas' teachings in Theravada Buddhism, (dependent origination, "patichchasamuppada" ) explains how Consciousness forms as a phenomenal process, to begin as the core of "life" energy. For example as a worldly phenomenon, " seed " generate growth to a plant with help of "nature".

[@ALavin-en1kr]

It is not either/or, it is and/both. Unity as Reality, dualism as perception; the Absolute which is one and the relative which is dual.

[@valsakarunan9835]

❤❤❤

[@atmannityananda-autognosia]

1:02:00 ❤ BLISS Bliss is limitless, unconditional, timeless, immutable, formless, objectless, unfathomable, indescribable. If we wanted to use some words to describe bliss (which can't really describe bliss) they could be. PEACE, SILENCE, FULLNESS, FREEDOM, BEAUTY, BEAUTY Swami Sivananda Similarly the knowers of the Self (Atman) are fully aware that the infinite bliss of Atman shines unobscured and unlimited during all the three periods of time and all the three states of experience. The bliss of Brahman cannot be adequately expressed in words. It has to be felt and realised through direct Self-realisation. Though we experience it, it is not an experience like the enjoyment of an object, because you are then an embodiment of bliss itself.

[@sonarbangla8711]

Eastern mysticism are two types, one in which cosmic consciousness and knowledge of divine design are shared by all humans and the other in which human consciousness and knowledge are secondary to it (like the Gilgamesh syndrome) and you never have an inkling of it. Babylonian mindset permits human and cosmic are the same, while Indian mindset permits the Gilgamesh syndrome.