Volvo B5254T - Block reinforcement to 800hp +

Volvo B5254T - Block reinforcement to 800hp + with Rottler F79 e P69 in Veicomer

[@jcube19]

The new cylinder liners are far stronger than the originals. Not only are the walls of the cylinders thicker but they also stiffen the deck of the bock to handle the high pressure created by big turbos. The cylinders of open deck blocks will flex and cause numerous issues like piston deflection and head gasket failure. With more area on the deck of the block for the head gasket to grab, the less likely it is to fail and high boost pressures.

[@rebelmaderighteous]

that is extremely impressive

[@baladar1353]

Yes, pretty impressive, but has nothing to do with the performance of the engine. Those holes around the cylinders are only for better cooling.

[@ikakhazho]

thosse are new sleeves that can hold much more temperatures

[@lucalazi]

Impressive for me is, they are made it Such a good engine years ago, with a big potential. From Basic 220 hp till ~ 800...i have one, and in times 3 cylindes waschmaschines im Lucky one. For me 450 HP, maybe in the future :)

[@forwhatitsworth364]

Look up devcon block reinforcement gonna make things a lot cheaper

[@forwhatitsworth364]

@@baladar1353 t5 block has weak clininder sleave prone to cracking at high hp over 450. This lets you make more hp but can be done at home with devcon filling the block. Hope this helps.

[@tomthompson7400]

im only 50 , but fords xflows used to get the heads and valves done at 40k , and rebore and pistons at 80k , and we all thought that was great . how times change

[@michaelstrongbow2336]

Cool video, just needed some narrating on what was being done. The comments are even cooler, come one guys were all here because we love I5 Volvo's. Peace and Love or I Roll.

[@82_KID]

Such a beautiful sight 3:17

[@mauriceadamson224]

Such precision amazing.

[@LUZ-zv6pq]

Wow. Wonder how long it can keep those temps down. Love these sorts of projects makes no sense at all to make 7-800hp in a FWD 4 cylinder, but who cares it's someone's baby and it's fucking sick. The work carried out there is on a different level 👌

[@flacjacket]

This is a 5 cylinder, its probably going in something RWD also.

[@colourfulcatering4134]

@@flacjacket Pretty much all Volvo engines of that era are transverse and power FWD or FWD biased AWD cars....

[@Twpcew]

@@colourfulcatering4134 You put it in straight and make it rwd. Very popular swap

[@mcgherkinstudios]

There’s a bolt in AWD system for this chassis volvo. That said I do know of cars running over 1000bhp and still FWD, they just limit power in lower gears

[@WhatGarage]

@@colourfulcatering4134 which then get taken out and converted to rwd because rwd is the shit

[@danielbailey848]

Beautiful work!! I was mesmorized.😀

[@micheandmikey]

Wow.................I'm bulging.....shit yeah that's awesome! I should bring my son's engine into work and do the exact same thing! Awesome job! 👌👌👌

[@kristofferkorneliussen893]

Beautiful!!

[@paulfritz4498]

Show how you fit the new cylinders

[@schwartzenheimer1]

Clear as mud.

[@jaydee2559]

Why are the old cylinders ground out like that and then completely replaced? Also does a new set of cylinders affect the volvo reliability?

[@Meatsweats_o_O]

so those engines (which are in 2004-2007* s60r's) and maybe a few other models but i'm not 100% sure which. have weak cylinder walls especially at the top of the cylinder. As you're able to see from this video, there isn't anything around the top of the cylinder to give support. so they can move/warp under high stress, because of the PSI that is required to make high HP (these make around 300 bhp and will start to break around 450 bhp). So what this does, as you see, removed the top of the cylinder walls, then replaces them with something that is a lot stronger, like a fully forged steal, instead of caste aluminum. Thus, allowing more pressure = more glorious HP. This is a very simple explanation and i'm not a mechanic, i just own a 05 R, so i work on it. a lot.

[@AutoRestore1]

Isnt the engine on the S60 R another Code? The B5254T is the 5 cyl, 2.5cc 4 valves per cylinder, while the S60R haves a 2.3 5cyl. Anyway, other part of the explanation is right haha, is an open deck engine and theres a lack of support for high pressure boosting, but is cheaper to produce, many Opels (Corsa and Astra OPC's), Fords (ST, New RS and the old one) and so many others, use the same kind of block.

[@eformance]

The 5254 is 2435cc, not 2319cc, like used in the early 850R and V70R. The 2000 V70R had a 2435cc 5244T2 engine, commonly confused with the 2319cc engine. The 2319cc block is often used in performance applications because the parent material is essentially the same between the 2319-2521 IIRC, just the liners are bored larger on the bigger displacement engines. The bigger 2.5l engines also have problems with coolant flow through the block, there is a stupid stamped metal restrictor in the water jacket that impedes flow between the ends of the block.

[@eformance]

Affect reliability? You mean make it *more* reliable? IMHO, the Achilles heel of these engines is the solid cam followers and the lack of a service interval for adjusting the valves. I seriously doubt Volvo even had part numbers for different bucket thicknesses.

[@Sketch1994]

3 reasons for the first pass...The liner is first bored out all the way down to remove it and make a probably clearanced hole for the new sleeve. At this point they can measure the precise diameter of the tool and set it correctly for the next pass which will make the mating hole for the sleeve, and this way they also make sure there isn't too much material left requiring a second pass.

[@moealfaily1662]

Price?

[@joseayala242]

I got recently done, depending on what pistons and rods you use about $6,700

[@brandonlittle6444]

@@joseayala242 lol wtf. is that a joke? Where is my billet block.. smh

[@joseayala242]

Not a joke that was the cost😆, how much do u love your volvo

[@MrZaine97]

That should probably cost just as much as I paid for my s60r. 6K probably but fuck I wanna do this sooner than possible. I only have 60,000 miles and I'm completely stock as of right now

[@bencrosbie]

Impressive but am abit confused.

[@proventure307]

Its an aluminium block which is not made for 800+HP like old iron blocks in 2jz's or rb25/26's etc. So you have to put in iron cylinders which withstand much more pressure.

[@bencrosbie]

Am guessing they put sleeves in without showing it. Yeah iron cylinders is the best of stuff

[@Peter_Riis_DK]

I'd rather use steel.

[@Samisven]

steel flexes alot with heat/cold.

[@asambi69]

@@Samisven Pretty sure these are steel liners. No one puts in Iron liners. Iron block yeah. But steel liners.

[@xeexiong8979]

nice surface

[@markf8883]

how much is it to have this done? my block is cracked in one of the cylinders

[@82_KID]

If your block is cracked you need a new block man

[@SL9SH]

TheJCorbi82 of course not, Volvo blocks usually crack between cylinders, this kit replaces all the cylinders, so a cracked block makes a perfect donor as it otherwise is scrap

[@willriley1619]

Mark F It's probably pretty pricey I'd imagine.

[@colourfulcatering4134]

@@SL9SH Not at all. You can shim cracked liners and will run slightly more than standard power for the life of the car without drama generally.

[@SL9SH]

@@colourfulcatering4134 shimming a cracked block is a bandaid and most likely a time bomb, it is a preventative measure not a corrective one.

[@noelhernandez5016]

How are the sleeves installed?

[@panchonorthmann6408]

Why would you drill the coolant passages in the semi open deck after the liners are installed? How do you get all the chips out?

[@zackraiden5875]

Late reply but this is the answer for anyone who asks the same questions, for one drilling usually if done right causes most the junk to come out the top, only tiny chips would remain and those could be removed by flushing the block with a hose or by simply putting the block on an engine stand, putting it upside down then blasting with compressed air. Also they drill them after its installed so drilling doesnt affect fit between the block, if you drill something before putting the pieces together that drill could slightly push something out of place thus causing an interference.

[@Johans60]

Cool

[@stefanburemo9661]

I'd like a block like that i one of my 2 Turbocharged volvos..hehe

[@johno9507]

Do you put the coolant baffle between cylinder 1 and the block back in? .

[@chiiandme1]

Dose this product/method work for all B5254T* I have a t12. And would love to know what it's ceiling is with this method if people are doing it

[@homelessdrifter9508]

you can do this on any volvo 5cyl gasoline engine since the blocks are all the same if e remember correctly

[@kileman4108]

Wish I could do this to my b5234t

[@duhduhlovo1670]

I have a set of those sleeves for my Volov 850 T5. How much to do that to my block for machining and installation for sleeves?

[@christianhudspeth3338]

Lmao looks to be like 800 to a 1000

[@miguel1waterpolo1guy]

what is the location and link for this serivce on my block

[@mazjap]

Hate to think what this costs

[@juancamaney4600]

Quiro poner a tiempo uv volvo S60 5 cilindros motor 2.3 modelo 2004 con turbo

[@soundseeker63]

So basically they made an open deck engine into a closed deck one? Interesting work, but must be pretty expensive so why bother?

[@Ajase2011]

All Volvo whiteblocks (aluminum block) are open deck design. Sadly the stock liners cant handle high levels of boost so this is literally one of the few options to make the cylinder setup reliable for high boost/high horsepower builds. There are a few different applications from Ben Kaplan, CSS, and Darton that can be used to make these blocks more reliable

[@soundseeker63]

@@Ajase2011 Yes I get what the purpose is I just imagine the cost would be more than swapping to an engine that can handle big boost from the factory. That said I thought the T5 engine was pretty tuneable so surely you'd have to be looking for some pretty serious numbers to warrant doing this work?

[@colourfulcatering4134]

@@soundseeker63 You can run 700bhp on a standard 2.5 block. Internals need forging but the block can handle it. These are for 800bhp plus.......

[@halldorra]

The Volvo engine is actually a Porsche design

[@mectechman1]

Any info on that?

[@AcidStyle79]

When did Porsche have their own inline 5? I think you meant to say that Volvo used the Audi 5 cilinder engine design

[@iheartmysquid]

No Volvo got Posrche to design a modular engine for them, it comes in straight 4,5 and 6 designs

[@scoob2569]

the audi engine is completely unrelated.

[@halldorra]

Lightspeed Echo ,Yes and Vw never cheated on the diesel emission

[@freethevibez]

How much does it cost for this service?

[@tomthompson7400]

pure poetry , but what on earth did it cost .

[@colourfulcatering4134]

That's a £2500 day out in the UK for having Darton Sleeves installed.

[@tomthompson7400]

@@colourfulcatering4134 that's more than my t5 c30 cost lol

[@tomthompson7400]

@@colourfulcatering4134 Thought so . then the rest of it too , my C30 t5 didnt cost that ,, but its still impressive to watch.

[@JessopVTS]

@@colourfulcatering4134 Who does the machining works and supplies the sleeves, in the UK?

[@homelessdrifter9508]

@@JessopVTS the only place i know that sells sleeves is elevate cars but they are from usa. elevate cars actually make the strongest and thickest cylinders for volvo 5 cylinders

[@Kawaii_Life.]

Who would be the tuner?

[@jompazx1272]

This is why you go b230!

[@homelessdrifter9508]

b230 wont last over 700hp

[@beastman.330]

Why don't you just make a single rectangle shape piston that covers the whole area with custom crankshaft connected to 5 conrods marking it a giant single cylinder engine.

[@colormesarge]

Because that would be profoundly idiot.

[@SpiriDussgaming]

turk 182 it will vibrate untill everything falls of the car probably

[@nikolai502]

It would need 10 times the flywheel to hopefully run evenly

[@nickyborrisino]

Looks like they cut those garbage OEM nikasil-coated aluminium cylinders out and replaced them with cast iron cylinder sleeves like the ones they used back in the old days? I guess that makes this block actually reuseable and not a modern disposeable piece of alloy shit. I have only been able to get 250k-280k miles out of these newer Volvo nikasil blocks before the cylinders are junk, not to mention catastrophic piston meltdown when engine is overheated enough. Happens in the newer BMW engines as well :(

[@eformance]

Blame BMW for pioneering these blocks. I traded an 850i in on a V70R, still think the Volvo is less maintenance.

[@eformance]

ElectronicRedPanda it was a 10yo $25k car with 66k miles, needed a bunch of new parts which were not available, some obscenely overpriced parts (rear shocks at $1200 each, because BMW refused to share part numbers between models back then), the build quality was crap. The Volvo was 1yr old and $39k. Today I bet the prices are evenly matched or favor the V70R, because the 850i was crap.

[@eformance]

ElectronicRedPanda in 2001 Dinan was making replacement parts for these to fix the faulty factory parts. It had a leaky intake and worn out shifter, both items were out of stock and no time frame was give when they would produce more. The shocks were the same as the 7series hydro shocks, but because they didn't bear the same part number, any certified BMW place would refuse to install them. It was neat to have a V12 stick car for a minute, but 6mo of ownership showed just how poor their build quality was. It was also useless for carrying passengers, I already had a Mustang, Corvette, and pickup truck, I really needed a 4 seater. I sat in the Volvo and said "wow, this is the first new car I've seen in 10 years that doesn't make me want to throw up in my mouth", so I bought it. That was 2001, and the then-new Volvo cars were back to the "I want to throw up in my mouth".

[@nickyborrisino]

Just to be fair, we do have a customer with a 1982 Porsche 928 with over 400k on odometer and original engine. He hotrods the car all of the time and I had to rebuild engine couple of years ago after he hydro-locked it. That was a very early example of alloy block with Nikasil cylinders and pistons which Porsche was able to make work after the Italians failed at it in the 70's. His engine had severe scoring and chipping in Nikasil because of piston/rod damage, but most of the coating showed normal amount of wear with no aluminium showing through. Recoating Nikasil cylinders and pistons runs about $12,000-$15,000 dollars last time I checked, so we ended up getting a used block. I don't know how Porsche managed to do it correctly, but I am sure that the 928 being one of the most expensive new cars in the late 70's and early 80's has a lot to do with it.

[@TyphoonVstrom]

Look more closely. These engines have cast iron liners cast into the block.....

[@marksiegfried4372]

No coolant ?

[@austintapia5704]

How much?

[@edwinrivera5155]

How much that work cost ?

Edwin Rivera I work like that information as well because I have $$$$ to do this

[@CrabRangoon245]

Edwin Rivera the sleeves themselves are available on vivaperformance for about 950. I was quoted at 1200 for the milling/installation so about 2k+

[@fattemunk]

Curious as to which state/country you are in for that quote. I am in California so I am sure I will prob have to pay double that. f me

[@capnskiddies]

@@CrabRangoon245 not to mention the money to remove and refit the engine. Had a D5 S60, loved it but the annual road tax on it here was steep.

[@HPLex215]

@@CrabRangoon245 + like $800 for the forged rods and like another $800 for forged pistons

[@casparharte]

How did they do this before CNC

[@ubaldoespinoza7046]

It just wasn't automated, all done with keen eye and steady hand, like a vertical lathe.

[@jakubtonykoko5172]

i want it !!! any info ?

[@CrabRangoon245]

Jakub Tonykoko sleeves are sold on vivaperformance

[@sergeybondarenko4733]

безумие всё это

[@kordaxmint533]

I just wonder if it's possible to b4204t11

[@we-drive]

dont think that 4 pot engine is worthy of this machining work 😅

[@kordaxmint533]

@@we-drive 5 pot and 4 pot is a little difference, in fact b4204 is more reliable that it's predecessor...

[@we-drive]

@@kordaxmint533 isnt it the same thats used in ecoboost 2.3 that has reliability issue? btw im glad you're still here after 5 yrs 🙏

[@kordaxmint533]

@@we-drive No, b4204t11 is a Volvo's relatively new engine, it's 2 liter. Modern SPA platform engines are based on this, just have a different index with adaptations to hybrid and spa platform.

[@sgr5287]

Can you do this to a b6284t block?

[@nikolai502]

Yup, they can

[@homelessdrifter9508]

@@nikolai502 how, i havent found a place that sells cylinders for 6 cylinders

[@derJackistweg]

? What's the value of this vid?

[@DougFrantz]

The quality comments it inspires

[@webbwalle]

?

[@Radfordperson]

My wooden pistoned Volvo 340 1.4 has more power than this! I should be so lucky. Anyway, at near 200,000 Miles it still runs nicely and is economical. Engine/ gearbox etc. all original, nothing has gone wrong, yet!

[@joem335]

this is a renault engine and renault do have very good quality engines.

[@MrHBSoftware]

@@joem335 if you are referring to their engines from the 80's and 90's OK...the rest is shit...but on the 80's and 90's wich brand did not have reliable engines??????

[@claymore2k1T10]

What a waste of money, rod inserts to reinforce the liners would have been fine for 800bhp.

[@alycestapleton]

claymore2k1 what is a rod insert ? . You mean sleeves

[@Rasmus661]

You can use dowels or rods that is inserted between cylinder liners and the outer block. It's a cheaper way of reinforcing the block compared to doing it as shown in the video.

[@hdrperformance2719]

stock cylinders are geting broke with stock power, that is a reason for upgrade

[@FriendlyIntentions]

Lmfao no they are not. FYI Claymore has built like 5 or 6 600+hp b52xtX engines. Also Has been proven that 2.3 and 2.4 T5 block can hold 700 HP with Shims, one guy is running a 2.3 with shims at 550 AWHP (at wheels) who knows how much thats at crank.

[@milolouis]

hahaha wow I must assume you know more than a professional engine shop from you're intelligent comment. So smart. Do you also know everything about everything else in the world. IDIOT

[@rebelmaderighteous]

that is extremely impressive