Vektor Mini-SS: South Africa's Answer to the FN Minimi

[@possumpatrol45]

An upside of the arms embargo is that it led to all sorts of interesting designs that might not have been developed otherwise.

[@coreymerrill3257]

Oh you just want lisa in your room.

[@possumpatrol45]

@@coreymerrill3257 You're tearing me apart, Lisa!

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

This somewhat shows that humans will always find a way to build guns and weapons in general if they want/need to

[@greycatturtle7132]

Ye

[@conorjohn490]

These are the types of designs that prove that if you're creative enough with a K'Nex set, you too can design a gun. (Note: knowledge of metallurgy, explosive engineering, manufacturing, and parts sourcing not included)

[@pguth98]

I have never seen a bolt that locks quite like that. Really ingenious. Really cool how the locking surface is a separate part, so it can be hardened differently & replaced when it wears out. Reminds me of the XM5's steel inserts.

[@thejackal5099]

Awesome. I thought this was one of the guns you missed on your South Africa trip and never gonna get to.

[@luckystriker7489]

I volunteered to operate an SS during basic training in 1991 at Oudtshoorn Infantry School. It was far lighter than a belt-fed Bren and equally reliable as long as you kept the bursts short. One of our bodybuilder corporals could even shoot it Rambo-style, but the barrel drooped faster than our R4 rifles at the same rate of fire. Nice to carry, less nice in a firefight

[@JosephHayes-u9f]

Belt fed bren...?

[@Unruly6ixx]

So it’s trash if it’s not nice in a firefight ? Ps I’m not a machine gunner a rifle man

[@TheBodieClan]

A belt fed Bren…????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 2:04

[@IamtherealDodger67]

Pretty sure he actually meant the FN-MAG, which is still in service alongside the SS77

[@edwardhawkey5714]

@@IamtherealDodger67 I think he did mean FN MAG, still one of the top GPMG;s currently used.

[@paleoph6168]

Finally, a quality KZbin video on the Vektor Mini-SS, and not only that, it's from none other than Forgotten Weapons! Thank you Ian! Also @2:56 and 9:10 The bipod also has a wire cutter just like the Galil ARM and Vektor R4.

[@stuartdodman9817]

What an impressive design, simple, light, no unnecessary features and solid metal, not stamped. I want one!

[@monado550]

Gotta love south african arms manufacturers, all the guns you presented on this channel look gorgeous, feature cool engineering tricks and are simple in design

[@Erden99]

Now if only we could maintain a powerplant to this kind of standard...

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

hire the same kind of people to run your power plants that made this gun.. oh wait..

[@ibubezi7685]

@@ripvanwinkle2002 The CEO comes close, but that is probably only to scapegoat him, after 25 years of mismanagement and corruption - and now active sabotage.

[@jameshodgson3656]

Now don't be racist, that power plant was a victim of socioeconomic factors

[@mindsharping]

Ah, a powder burning power station! Very innovative.

[@easy_eight2810]

I don't know how Ian got me hooked on firearm design history years ago as a Vietnamese who has never held a gun in his life. Tomorrow I'll get to visit my first Defence EXPO and there will definitely be more unique designs like the SVT-380 :D

[@boocomban]

it literally a Galil ACE with minimal handguard and remove left side charging handle with more traditional Ak right side charging handle

[@Stevarooni]

Such a long history, and as most of history there are weird twists and turns that are fascinating. 👍

[@boocomban]

@@Stevarooni it is just Z111 want to simplify the manufacturing process on Galil Ace as well as reducing parts on the final products for various reasons. First, Vietnam is not the only manufacturer that IWI sold their galil ace production line for. It would make no sense for Vietnam to try to make galil ace to compete on the export market as they are not that well known in the industry. So making galil ace serve no purpose on the export market as it not only compete with IWI united states as well as it violate the contract they signed with IWI. So by making SVT, it can be use to export as a lower cost version of galil ace. Another reason is Vietnam has been use AK since 1960s. And their doctrine has been used with logistics and the simplicity of AK. By making SVT more like AK, it reduced the amount of parts to more like original of AK but still keep it up with modern requirements. SVT reduced 10-13 parts compare with original galil ace and on the same time it interchange some parts with AK/STL-1 that they made, hence reduce the logistics burden of fielding various weapon type.

[@M8Military]

Lots of places u can shoot legally in Vietnam. You can even shoot a cow for a few hundred US dollars

[@ianfurqueron5850]

Similar here. While I've had an interest in guns since I was a child (my father was a professional military historian), following this channel and InRangeTV has multiplied that interest by a large order of magnitude.

[@rudivanaarde8952]

As a South African, I don't get to see a lot of our weapons discussed. Appreciate the video's that do. Thanks a lot.

[@annconlon4468]

I've been fascinated with the SS-77 after reading about it in Handgunner magazine back in the 90's. Great to see Ian finally cover a variant of this gun. 🤗🤗

[@joshsquatch7474]

I'm not positive but I think he has an older video on the original GPMG version

[@paleoph6168]

​@@joshsquatch7474Ian just posted it!

[@joshsquatch7474]

@@paleoph6168 lol yes he did

[@raytheron]

South Africa used the FN MAG LMG for many years, but they were getting a bit long in the tooth. When I was in the SADF in the early 70s we used the MAG extensively, and it served well in the Bush War. I also trained on the South African 7.62 conversion of the Bren.

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

Oh hell yes, I've been wanting the SS-77 ever since your first trip to South Africa. This scratches that itch. Thank you Ian

[@jamesbridges7750]

With that amount of bolt tilt parallel to the extractor claw you can see why they had trouble.The amount of moment on the claw would make the heat treat and cam surface tolerances a nightmare.

[@caritstumnce6068]

I'm genuinely happy to see this thing make it onto the channel. Haven't really seen it at military expo events in the country and I started to think it didn't get further than a prototype. Thanks a ton for making a vid on it. I'm just amazed it's in a US facility and not at Denel like all the other SA guns. Really curious how it got there🤣

[@jirpy10]

It is used by a few South American countries, and Saudi Arabia etc.

[@ScottKenny1978]

I'm sure the US Embassy "acquired" a few.

[@Getpojke]

Lovely clean, uncluttered exterior with cleverly simplified interiors. Especially clever for being designed in-house by a relatively small country. But I suppose that necessity is the mother of invention.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

'n Boer maak 'n plan

[@williamflowers9435]

When I got the notification for this video, I assumed it was from your trip to South Africa 🇿🇦 and you’d kept it in reserve. Wouldn’t have expected one of these to make to the U.S.

[@londonjolly9174]

A wonderful mash of parts/shapes from the M240, Galil, and FAL, what a cool LMG!

[@Holycow94WoW]

First thing I thought was “Galil LMG”. I mean the handguard, stock and sights scream Galil

[@channelmachinebroke9638]

I never knew about this gun before but know I think it's pretty cool. Thanks Ian!

[@patriotenfield3276]

Thank You Mr Ian . This is the first and only Video on Vektor SS77 GPLMG.

[@parasitic1344]

“Full auto or nothing” and “pull trigger, sear drops” are probably my favorite firearms design features.

[@bruceinoz8002]

As was eventually discovered with the M-60, the lack of a "trip" lever to hold the sear clear during firing, caused nasty wear issues. Unsurprisingly, some of the OLDER MGs have that trip lever . More "design" by committee with teh M-60? I replaced quite a few chewed-up M-60 op-rods and sears in my "time". NOTHING is "soldier-proof', however.

[@parasitic1344]

@@bruceinoz8002 “wear issues”? No sir, that is just the gun suggesting you ride the lightning like a man!

[@blaisechalmers1464]

I've been waiting for Ian to do a video on what I deem my countries greatest invention in terms of firearms. The SS is so underrated and I'm glad it's finally getting the proper recognition it deserves. It's up there with the likes of the PKM and FN Mag, and it is one of my top 5 favourite machine guns, including the previously mentioned two. It's a pity most of your South African viewers have to watch this during loadshedding. Keep it up Ian🔥🇿🇦

[@sagamerdog6544]

plenty of time to watch the vid with stage six

[@peterconnan5631]

Jip, thank goodness for batteries.

[@ginger0208]

Gotta download videos in preparation for stage 6🤣

[@andrewallason4530]

I don’t know if it has ever been done, but I think this would be a good design for what I call a “semi-open bolt” concept. My concept is an open-bolt system where the sear engagement is about 5mm (1/4inch) from the closed bolt position with a small spring between the bolt and bolt-carrier. This means that the round is fully in the chamber and the bolt is locked, as in a closed-bolt weapon, but the bolt carrier is caught by the sear, with the firing pin retracted. When the trigger is pulled, the sear disengages, the bolt carrier slams forward the last tiny bit, with the firing pin projecting. The benefits I perceive are the simplicity of an open bolt system, minimal travel of the bolt carrier when the trigger is pulled, reducing the effects of throwing off the point of aim, zero risk of the bolt accidentally being moved by inertia and chambering and firing a round if the weapon is dropped, along with the many open bolt benefits. The main issue I see would be the risk of cooking-off the chambered round.

[@andrewallason4530]

Yup, i looked it up and the semi-auto mode of the 42 works in this manner. Thanks for the reminder, Socom.

[@simonnormand2813]

The FN Mag is the standard by which other designs are rated by the guys who use them. The Bren was the second favourite, however they are both heavier than this neat design. I had ‘retired’ out in 88/89; so I never got too meet it. But we had heard of it, and knew of some of the previous versions testing problems. Reliability was a big factor for the old SADF

[@gavinhammond1778]

What a slick little rig. Thanks for the content.

[@jon1801]

What an excellent and useful design. My experience of all South African produced weaponry has been positive. Sometimes the "political" situation a country finds itself in, can inspire some amazing innovations and products.

[@alanlarsen3525]

I really hope we get to see you shoot this one looks pretty neat.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Very light gun, for what it does. Even if you carry two spare barrels. Cheers Ian.

[@comiketiger]

Cool design. Thanks for sharing Ian. God bless all here.

[@victuff9765]

I like how they used a Galil/R4 bipod! Like how many motorcar manufacturers use their parts bins to eliminate the 'reinventing the wheel' scenario 👍

[@bartekt6690]

Nice, I was waiting for SS-77 or miniSS for long time. There is black hole in the internet about those guns. Great Job Ian, as always.

[@andrewthurlow3726]

Hey Ian, I'm from SA and would love to see one of these bad boys in action. Please get one to the range for us.

[@SamGray]

I'm dying laughing at the "Read Manual Before Use" mark.

[@vvr881]

That mark is definitely not South African. 🤣

[@edwardhawkey5714]

@@vvr881 had to be put on because like every military on the planet, yes incl, the US, we had some very very dumb servicemen. Well, its lost on those that cant read, in todays military, which by the way is an absolute joke.

[@jessicasimp4459]

See, we are more likely on the journey to see the FN Minimi’s special episode that’s coming on Christmas.

[@LUR1FAX]

To me the front of the gun visually reminds me a bit of the PKM.

[@chadleyabrahams9134]

Proudly South African! Cape Town to be precise

[@SuperBommer1]

The worse problem with the SS77 was you literally had to dump oil over it to keep it working

[@mazambane286]

Or talcum power. Which does not collect dust and dirt.

[@luckystriker7489]

True, I remember having to oil my SS often during basics and special weapons. Although the Bren required less maintenance, the SS was easier to carry and jump out of a Buffel with.

[@mazambane286]

@@luckystriker7489 Which units were issued them? I was in the SAP and we stuck with the FN MAG. The Armory guys told me once that the SS77 will never see service or be mass produced while we still have plenty of serviceable MAG's.

[@luckystriker7489]

@@mazambane286 I was issued an SS during my junior leader course (one pip lieutenant) at infantry school in Oudtshoorn. We were sometimes given experimental stuff like helmets with built-in comms, etc.

[@lairdcummings9092]

Dang. This is a very well-thought, user-friendly weapon.

[@alexandermarinin7036]

8,3 kg Mini-SS: I'm light 7,5 kg PKM: okay 👍

[@Kurochana]

To be fair it do be incredibly light for something that runs the FN Mag system.

[@alexandermarinin7036]

@@Kurochana it's rather due MG-42-style feeding mechanism. Top cover with all that stuff attached is pretty heavy

[@ShortT-RexLikeArms]

@@alexandermarinin7036 Plus it also requires a longer bolt carrier, since the roller need to extend beyond the feed tray.

[@shroomer6413]

My dad used those back in the Angola border war. Thanks for making this video.

[@fishsmell3939]

Your dad's racist

[@TheKitMurkit]

Cool

[@KieferSmokerland]

No he didn't. SADF were still fielding FN Mags during the boarder war. This gun wasn't even invented yet. (Source: I'm an ex SADF infantry conscript)

[@fishsmell3939]

@@KieferSmokerland he was special forces. Behind enemy lines with the most advanced technology and technical training. Strictly stalk and destroy missions of vips. They say not all of him made it back from the war.

[@vvr881]

@@fishsmell3939 no I think u maybe got it wrong there. He would've used Soviet weapon systems. U can be very proud of your father🤙

[@michaelripley9507]

With the release of "the merchant of doom" released from prison, I'll be placing my order for one with the paratrooper stock and a bayonet lug soon.

[@notNajimi]

Aesthetically, it’s like the love child of a PK and a Minimi

[@mhmt1453]

18 pounds would be great for the guy lugging it around! When I was in the Army, we still had the M-60, and they didn’t call it the “Pig” for nothing! This thing is like a whole M-16 lighter, and if it operates as easily as you say (and field strips as easily), our guys would’ve appreciated it.

[@jasongarland3165]

Its interesting to see weapons developed after all the "greats" like the MAG and FAL. With the Mini-SS, you see elements of the MAG, FAL, Galil, AR-180, and R4 all rolled up into the one package. The South Africans are certainly an industrious lot!

[@barryparker4066]

Hello Ian I live one town over from Hooksett. Wellcome to N.H!

[@johnfraser8116]

Very interesting. Big thanks! Open-ended flash hiders bother me. Don't they catch on things and would a ring around the end hurt the flash hiding effect?

[@shimmyshimmyko-ko-bop594]

It's like an FAL bolt/carrier turned on its side. Even the locking shoulder looks exactly like an FAL locking shoulder. Considering the extensive use of the FAL in SA, I wonder how much that drove development of the system.

[@triggered_tomato]

As always,super informative and well presented.

[@glockparaastra]

Cheers from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@clownworld4655]

The sights and bipod definitely look like they were taken straight from a Galil

[@patriotenfield3276]

This is the standard LMG for Colombian Military and now supplemented by more advanced IMI Negev.

[@petesheppard1709]

Hopefully a shooting vid tomorrow... Also, the handguard looks straight from a Galil.

[@craigevans6156]

I love the “Read Manual Before Use” marking! Was this to be sold in the USA? 😂😂😂

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

HIlarious quick question though if the USA is so stupid why are they so much better than your country at quite literally everything?

[@craigevans6156]

@@ripvanwinkle2002 So how do you know where I am from?

[@khan_of_tartaria]

"Front towards enemy" energy

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

@@khan_of_tartaria haha russians thought it was funny too when they copied the claymore.. didnt add it to the first run. guess what it says in RUSSIAN on the front of russian claymore knock offs these days? its not stupid if it works

[@craigevans6156]

@@mattrobson3603 😂😂😂😂😂

[@1Babu8]

Definitely being considered for the next Star Wars Miniseries.

[@biddinge8898]

How cool would it be to make a movie based in South Africa with all of the crazy guns that came out of Africa. Basically all of them were crazy.

[@jirpy10]

Chappie and District 9 did some of that.

[@amphibiousone7972]

Great history lesson...Thanks Ian Boss 💪

[@errantstar]

I really hope Ian gets a chance to compare the PKM and the polish NATO conversion/Adaption of the PKM side by side.

[@tehyeh]

Ian scratched the hand guard with the end of the barrel muzzle device :(

[@tacticalmanatee]

I'm kind of surprised no one has made a dedicated belt-fed modernized version of the Stoner 63, since it managed to be both insanely lightweight and also very low recoil.

[@ScottKenny1978]

That's the Knights LAMG. 12lb 5.56 belt fed.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

The kac lamg weights 11.4ib, and the lac stoner lmg (stoner 96) weighs 10ib.bith belt fed.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@matthiuskoenig3378 granted, but I bet the LAMG is significantly more durable.

[@jy2592]

have been waiting for this one for a long time

[@bulukacarlos4751]

The for-end is the same as the R4/Galil. Greetings from Argentine Patagonia.

[@paranoiia8]

I wonder why they didnt add holes to bolt guide on top cover, make few groves on cover it self from inside, round a bit gas piston tube and maybe use slightly thinner feed ramp if they wanted to reduce weight that much. Just removing some material from top cover and maybe in few spots on body it self would lighten it nicely without making it flimsy and its really not hard as those are flat surfaces that you can just slap on milling machine for few few minutes.

[@MegaAdeny]

"It's like the entirety of the SS all in one package! Buy the Mini-SS Portable Firing Squad Simulator now!"

[@pineapplesalad6494]

8.25kg seems pretty heavy for 5.56 SAW, considering the PKM weighs about 9kg and comes in 7.62x54r

[@Jurflip2]

Yep. No stampings; all traditional machining. Makes for a heavy gun.

[@pineapplesalad6494]

@@Jurflip2 That was one of the complaints with the Finnish KvKK 62. It was just too heavy for the intermediate cartridge and offered no real advantage compared to PKM. Of course the PKM didn't exist when KvKK was designed, but it was very quicky obsoleted. Mini-SS is much newer than PKM and still doesn't seem to have any tangible benefit.

[@Sajuuk]

Most South African guns are heavy because they're built for reliability and abuse, and so they're generally over-engineered, quality pieces.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

@@pineapplesalad6494 But the PK did. Well... kind of.

[@kiwigrunt330]

The 5.56 is heavy because it uses the 7.62 as a basis. The 7.62 is fairly light for a GPMG at 9.6 kg.

[@BBHexKey]

Here's a question, when you have a tilting bolt like that, how do they compensate for the case head spacing? Is the bolt cut to where it's fully flush against the case head when in-battery and did they put just enough play into the extractor cut to compensate for the bolt rotation so it doesn't damage the cases on extraction?

[@vikingdrift]

Looks like the face of the bolt is angled, so it's actually square to the barrel when locked. The firing pin will hit on a slight angle but that won't matter

[@BBHexKey]

@@vikingdrift gotcha. I wonder if that was causing some of the reliability issues on the 7.62 variant.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Sand cuts meaning that they prevent sand buildup inside the mechanism?

[@ScottKenny1978]

Give the sand a place to go that's out of the worky bits.

[@vaclavholek4497]

With the side tilting bolt (ZH-29) and the Bren (ZB-26) type firing pin system, this gun owes as much of it's lineage to Belgium as it does to Czechoslovakia.

[@phsycresconquest6636]

It’s a little sad þat þe arms industry in ZA has been nearly completely killed off due to political and economical factors

[@adf8315]

IQ factor to be honest!

[@ekscalybur]

A belt fed on Friday, dare I hope for Saturday?

[@saiberunato]

The thumbnail for this grabbed my attention. Now please do a video on big brother SS-77. Also how about another rare, obscure South African gun, the Truvelo Raptor. Thank you.

[@fjallaxd7355]

This seems far better than I would expect out of South Africa.

[@roachbaitfnv2591]

Now that the Merchant of Death is back in business, this firearm will probably be even more popular...🤔

[@cosmicderringer1824]

This looks like a total beast

[@Sam_the_Spinosaurus]

it looks like if someone tried to draw the M240B from memory

[@kiwigrunt330]

I can't remember where I got this info, but I think the solution to the early problems with the SS77 was to drop the cyclic rate down a bit. I have asked some of my SA Reserve friends how well this gun is liked (compared against the FN MAG), but none have any experience with it.

[@ginger0208]

Not many units carry the SS77, most still carry the MAG, but that's just because there are more parts available for the MAG. I know the SS77 is preferred in DRC deployments, but the MAG and PKM are preferred by troops deployed in Mozambique. Just depends on environment, but during training cycles the preferred training LMG for paratrooper forces would be the SS77 and 77mini.

[@kiwigrunt330]

@@ginger0208 Thank you for that rundown. I imagined the parabat would be keen on the mini. From what you wrote, it seems that the SS77 is now regarded as sufficiently reliable in some environments, but not so much in others. Would that be correct? Or is it just personal/unit preference?

[@ginger0208]

@@kiwigrunt330 personal preference really, but the SS77 fairs better in jungle conditions a bit more than the MAG does. Not by much though. Just easier to keep clean, lighter and a tad more reliable. At the end of the day the SS77 is more reserved for the parabats who are always deployed in DRC, MAG infantry and PKM for SASF.

[@edwardd9702]

There's a Ukrainian guy , valgear, who reviews the weapons he's used. Out of MAG58, MG3, PKM, his pick is the PKM set up with a red dot.

[@calvingreene90]

When designing new equipment making it resemble equipment the customer already likes is not a bad idea.

[@RUBIZEN]

I remember that Peter G. Kokalis said that in his opinion this was the best 5.56 Squad Automatic.

[@KaDaJxClonE]

Had that been simplified and lightened a bit more, I bet the US and UK would've adopted it to replace the M60.

[@bobhill3941]

I think they would have.

[@ripvanwinkle2002]

no its not better than a MAG/M240 not even close..

[@sinner2512]

UK only has about a couple dozen M60 that came free with some Chinooks.

[@victuff9765]

@Sinner 251 surprisingly the UK MoD have had several hundred M60's in inventory over the years! Unsurprisingly they were not fielded, but as you say came with other 'systems' most of them being 'gifted' to various 'friendlys' 😉

[@ScottKenny1978]

Not likely, a 5.56 gun is rarely a good replacement for a 7.62 gun. The Minimi is tolerable for use in the squad, since there's a pair of M240s in the platoon.

[@BaqTalk]

What's the point of two pairs of nested springs? Isn't there a concern that they might bind up during operation?

[@miguelangeljeronimo1004]

Ningún "forgotten", esa arma es dotación en el ejército de mi país, y es excelente

[@SafetyProMalta]

SA arms industry colloborated with many companies and countries during the era.

[@ilhamshobri461]

thats looks like a very unique PKM

[@NicolasADER-i7d]

i don't know why but for me look inside the bolt /bolt carrier remenber me some sort of lever delayed AA-52 /AN-F1

[@psychobeam99]

"Mom can we have 240?" "We have 240 at home" 240 at home

[@patriotenfield3276]

It's actually an FN MAG giving in to PKM and the results after 9months

[@psychobeam99]

@@patriotenfield3276 Lmao. I see it.

[@danieljob3184]

If you want to see the minimi in action, watch Seal Team. Sonny (the boxy Texan) usually loads out with one.

[@tj006smith6]

Did it actually make it into service with the SANDF at all or just remain a private/commercial venture? Can't find any information on service use.

[@andro7862]

It's their standard issue LMG.

[@patriotenfield3276]

It's standard service of both SANDF and Ejercito del Columbia

[@tj006smith6]

@@andro7862 Thanks for that. The 5.56 version doesn't seem to show up in much information online in regards to in-service SANDF Small Arms. I wonder if its to do with the nomenclature the SANDF use for it and "Mini-SS" is more of a marketing/commercial name.

[@germanredneck4414]

what a beauty

[@frankbrowning328]

Love the "Read manual before use" HA HA HA HA!!!! Looks like a scale model of a full sized gun

[@carlinglin7289]

Looks like a very simple, solid design. Any idea how it compares to the M249 for reliability?

[@dksdg]

Very clever design

[@Podbyrin_9.2mm]

If you have the gas piston, what’s that famas-style lever delayed stuff? Isn’t it redundant?

[@raics101]

Funny how often 'this is one of the few guns that use' goes with 'this isn't a very good gun'.

[@aarontactical]

Hey, Ian, just wondering, what grenade launcher is compatible with the FN FAL?

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Rifle grenades

[@3746463]

2:31 The RPD was not 5.56 for faxx sake! 😀

[@KuruGDI]

The Mini-SS? Can it deliver the _double wumms_ ? And does it sound like german folk music when you shoot it? You know... I'm asking... for a friend.

[@MrHouseparty6]

1:16 The field T&E, was it dimensional problems and/or treatments? Anyone know? !!! from the design I can see why they had problems from a mechanical POV.

[@dwaneanderson8039]

Why is the trigger so tall? It looks like it was designed to be operated with two fingers. Is there a reason for that?

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian . 🐺

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Barrel locking mechanism looks really bad or am I missing something? If there is only one simple pin holding the barrel, then why make complex spring loaded lever instead of a pull pin? Now it looks like the barrel could come off by accident.

[@ScottKenny1978]

Because the spring loaded pin is held in place by that spring pressure.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

@@ScottKenny1978 Small spring and long lever. Bump the lever onto something and the spring won't held.

[@belushipumpkin]

Hey Gun Jesus, I think you forgot about the Ruger MP9 and the Japanese Type 94. Speaking of Ruger and Nambus, maybe how the famous Ruger Mark was based on Nambu action.