S23 Ultra vs S24 Ultra vs Xiaomi 15 (8Gen2 vs 8Gen3 vs 8 Elite) - Sustained Performance & AI Testing

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Velian Speaks Tech

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@stormsekules9935
@stormsekules9935 4 күн бұрын
Ngl, Snapdragon 8 gen 2 is quite impressive! Also good to see the 8 gen 3 do well even thottled beating the Gen 2. The Xiaomi ill give the benefit of the doubt being smaller, Be interesting what the S25U brings in terms of thermals.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Yes, can't wait for Elite in an Ultra phone.
@stormsekules9935
@stormsekules9935 4 күн бұрын
@VelianSpeaksTech Ought to be good! 😁
@denniszotomayor858
@denniszotomayor858 4 күн бұрын
Loving my consistent and very stable S23 Ultra even in heavy gaming. Will keep this phone more until 2027
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
I am also not selling the S23U, it's a keeper
@sbrader97
@sbrader97 3 күн бұрын
But the battery will be bad by then mine is already bad after 2 years it doesn't last a full day anymore idk if it's bad software updates or more likely the battery already is down to like 80% capacity
@crovian1985
@crovian1985 2 күн бұрын
Wish I kept mine ​@@VelianSpeaksTech
@packageopener6508
@packageopener6508 4 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see SD 8 ELite on Samsung S25 Ultra and it's tests
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Same here
@k2_fx521
@k2_fx521 3 күн бұрын
Yea. Samsung is the king of Android and optimizations.
@JeremyYu-r8g
@JeremyYu-r8g 3 күн бұрын
S23 ultra user here. I appreciate bro 🔥💪🗿💯❤️
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 4 күн бұрын
Bit strange to compare the tiny Xiaomi 15 with the giant S24 Ultra in a stress test.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
It's what I have, it's not ideal but even so, I wanted to try out 8 Elite in the smallest phone, as it's clear it will have heat dissipation issues and subpar cooling, nevertheless the perfkmecne per watt in real use cases, like gaming measured with Perfdog shows impressive performance at 3W-5W with stable 55-60 FPS ND ultra high graphics. So that's a good way to test performance per watt in that small body, before jumping to the bigger Ultra or Pro boys or even phones witch active cooling.
@gn0s1s
@gn0s1s 4 күн бұрын
s25 ultra not out yet, its not quite apples to apples but its a good ballpark to show that thermal perf really matters even on the elite.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
@@gn0s1s Agree. I got also some critics why I am not using the Xiaomi 15 Pro, well it`s simple, 2 things. I dont want to buy the X15P, I like small/compact form factor... And yes, doing it for the sake of finding out what will happens still makes sense to me. Especially when I get the Ultra in the big boys league.
@stx7389
@stx7389 3 күн бұрын
Bit strange to ignore that S8E is much more efficient but mention that is strange size difference?
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
@@stx7389 Absolutely. People jump their guns re the size, but size does not matter, if I could run those tests on my Nokia N70 I d do them, more over, it`s more fun to check the most powerful SoC in the smallest form factor as of now. X15 smashes Wuthering Waves and other like games, delivering stable 55-60 FPS on ultra high graphics with 3W-5W, this is is good, can`t be diminished by subpar cooling or physical size. Yes bigger size, more surface, better heat dissipation, but if it`s acceptable here, just imagine how good it should be with them vapor chambers and what not they ll put in ultras.
@user-ij8no5zw6u-
@user-ij8no5zw6u- 4 күн бұрын
Recently S23U is performing worse in 3D mark stress test with lower than ever lowest score. Despite the cold conditions. Do we get a hint that it's time for the new model?
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Didn't notice this really, the S23U still performs great
@user-ij8no5zw6u-
@user-ij8no5zw6u- 4 күн бұрын
@@VelianSpeaksTech It does, peak power is still there, but throttling is very aggressive, I get 3d stress test to throttle to 50% and it used to be close to 70%. Battery temp is low and the phone is still throttling....what is that??
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 4 күн бұрын
13:38 Bit incorrect sir. You cannot compare performance per watt or efficiency without setting a target performance metric. You cannot say that S24 Ultra is more efficient with SD 8G3 than Xiaomi 15 just because S24U is using less power even though the Xiaomi 15 is maintaining 60 fps constant in the most demanding games whereas the S24U is throttling a lot and using less power. So we should set a baseline like 30 fps and see how much power each SoC takes to hit that target performance. Testing for efficiency without capping performance is meaningless.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
I didn`t say the S24U is more efficient, it`s clear from all performance gaming tests that I did with PerfDog that even in that small body the 8 elite delivers better performance within 3W-5W vs what 8gen3 and 2 is able to deliver. And it`s also true that the Xiaomi 15 got the highest GIPS score for 30 min trottling test, the S23U throttled less than S24U and X15 and the S24U got the best average performance in GIPS.
@ruko3497
@ruko3497 3 күн бұрын
This.
@kresa22
@kresa22 3 күн бұрын
S23U with gen 2 is still the best overall. For me 😊 pozdrav iz Zemuna
@HeavenlyRevelations63
@HeavenlyRevelations63 3 күн бұрын
From starting to end of the result S23 ULTRA CONSUMED 19% S24 ULTRA CONSUMED 17% XIAMOI CONSUMED 16% Battery
@xypleth
@xypleth 2 күн бұрын
But Xiaomi cooked the battery, and within a year it will draw more % per hour than both Samsungs, if used heavily. That is a big issue with almost all chinese phones.
@AliYassinToma
@AliYassinToma 3 күн бұрын
Well.. finally something the s24 ultra is better at.. not really tho since these devices arent even comparable
@ibraheem1224
@ibraheem1224 4 күн бұрын
Qualcomm needs to improve AI performance on the 8 Elite lol
@rocky.s9035
@rocky.s9035 2 күн бұрын
ai benchmarks are total mess, its doesnt prove anything
@dantesnake9370
@dantesnake9370 4 күн бұрын
My S24 Ultra with thermal throttling disabled scored 97.2 compute and reach 53 degrees Celcius in SDHMS History
@dantesnake9370
@dantesnake9370 4 күн бұрын
Just for adding info the s24 ultra close the multiwindow at 50c but with the trick in sdhms throttling disabled it will not close it, quite nice having the phone like that in the november update
@udoy8377
@udoy8377 4 күн бұрын
it's a plus point for 8 elite it can deliver better performance but using less power.
@rodolfogenovese7042
@rodolfogenovese7042 4 күн бұрын
Yes but less performance in the long run, it has poor heat dissipation, now I don't know if it's only on this xiaomi or other phones
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Have in mind that this is the smallest 8 Elite phone right now, it's only 6.36", can't beat physics... Smaller surface, worse heat dissipation. Also the pro and Ultra phones will have more sophisticated cooling solutions, so at the end it might be good as the 8 Elite already shows impressive performance results within the range of 3W to 5W.
@udoy8377
@udoy8377 4 күн бұрын
@@VelianSpeaksTech yes 8 elite deliver better performance in less watt 8elite 60% output is sd8gen 3 100% output imagine what will be 8elite 100% output
@casuarius6576
@casuarius6576 3 күн бұрын
I want to see a comparation against the Exynos 2400
@BigTimeVocals
@BigTimeVocals 2 күн бұрын
I can't believe how reliable and stable the S23U is! I can't wait for the improvements with One UI 7😍
@officialdon_julio
@officialdon_julio 2 күн бұрын
My s24ultra is a beast 72.3% stability on wild life extreme stress test today 😊
@sik.
@sik. 4 күн бұрын
Xiaomi is way too small to give comparable results against 6.8 inch phones. Get the 15 pro or compare with smaller phones.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Not really. In world scenarios I e. gaming it kills it, car x, genshin, wuthering waves, not that bad at all, and all on Ultra settings.
@songoku9094
@songoku9094 4 күн бұрын
​@@VelianSpeaksTechgames never push the hardware to max only benchmarks do and throttling tests have to be in fair which isn't the case here because Xiaomi is a lot smaller than both samsung devices here. So, whatever those benchmarks related to sustained performance ( eg, cpu throttling test at the start of the video and 3D mark sustained performance..etc ) does make Xiaomi a bad phone here unless you test Xiaomi 15 pro which would have the same size as both samsung devices in this video which would be more appropriate. Even tho most games don't exactly push the chip to max one thing that these sustained performance benchmark sense in games will be is those games gonna drop frames or not and temperature would really high or not and since Xiaomi is here smallest one that wouldn't make sense here also
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
@@songoku9094 That`s not so accurate either as Wuthering Waves will sometime push the 8 elite to 14W, so most of the modern games are very GPU heavy, and some even use more than 30% CPU in average. But size does matter nevertheless, it`s physics, bigger surface, better dissipation, but on the other hand, take the most powerful chip on the planet, put it in the smallest form factor and really see what that chip can do, and the tests clearly showed it. Xiaomi 15 scored highest/GIPS for 30 min cpu throttling test S24U scored best average as it throttled a bit less S23U throttled less vs S24U and X15 bc I cannot reach past 500 GIPS
@niphanif
@niphanif 4 күн бұрын
​​@@songoku9094Golden Reviewer channel is best for gaming comparison the Samsung is the worst when it comes to gaming...the s23u can't even maintain 60fps but only runs 53fps average while xiaomi with a year older flagship chipset still beats s23u maintaining 57-59fps for 30mins(genshin imp.).. it's Samsung ultra it will be worst on base model.. it's weird people compare smaller phones against large one not fair...
@pinknailsworldseries367
@pinknailsworldseries367 4 күн бұрын
He died and stopped posting ​@@niphanif
@levipb1403
@levipb1403 4 күн бұрын
Why does the navigation bar look different on the s24 ultra compared to the other two?
@Eggk1_
@Eggk1_ 4 күн бұрын
Benchmarks don't seem to be optimized for 8 Elite
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Absolutely, I am bit surprised as the AI and Burnout test seem to work well with MTK 9400... Well, nevertheless the old CPU Throttling test still works damn it.
@Eggk1_
@Eggk1_ 4 күн бұрын
@VelianSpeaksTech Yea, because no matter how good 8gen3 looks, its peak performance is 30-40% behind 8 elite
@alphaarchive5262
@alphaarchive5262 3 күн бұрын
​@@VelianSpeaksTechI think that the problem here is that the governor of the SoC inside the Xiaomi 15, which is not properly optimised for these scenarios. After all, it wouldn't be the first time that it happens with a flagship xiaomi device. Techmo also had these issues with the Xiaomi 14 Ultra last year.
@Smzxe
@Smzxe 3 күн бұрын
Iqoo 13 will be much better same size far better optimisation than Xiaomi phones
@AllohFeranmi
@AllohFeranmi 3 күн бұрын
Noce video bro , i want to ask for your opinion should i get the huawaei mate 70 pro plus or the honor magic 7 pro for a long term use and which of them will age well in terms of chip amd optimization
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
Hard to tell man, I d always take mate vs honor
@AllohFeranmi
@AllohFeranmi 2 күн бұрын
@VelianSpeaksTech which one will U take in terms of performance and smoothness
@Geek_alien
@Geek_alien 3 күн бұрын
2:55 that is a wrong configuration. Every SoCs has threads twice as their cores. you should test it with standard 16 thread test because desktop processors have triple threads per core sometimes quad or penta So the mobile SoCs have double.
@Marlon_J
@Marlon_J 3 күн бұрын
I wish you had the new Mediatek to test as well. From what I've seen of it, it runs much cooler than the 8 Elite. I hope you plan on getting a phone with that SOC to test.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
I want to get the Vivo X200 Pro mini
@omarmaamouri
@omarmaamouri 3 күн бұрын
S23U is always the 👑
@i7Aziko
@i7Aziko 4 күн бұрын
Great and informative video as always , bro! Thank you for that 🤝
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching man, appreciate it.
@Astronomer568
@Astronomer568 2 күн бұрын
I'm planning to buy a new phone do you think s23 ultra still good for 2024-2025 or should i go to xaiomi 15?
@prithvim7
@prithvim7 3 күн бұрын
How is the battery in 8elite ?
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
Good for me
@Shyousm
@Shyousm 4 күн бұрын
Im here!!
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Tnx for watching, too my whole day damn it, but I wanted to do it
@pubgyoutube8567
@pubgyoutube8567 4 күн бұрын
@@VelianSpeaksTechburnout Benchmark better and more realistic than CPU throotling test
@rikyrossi9518
@rikyrossi9518 2 күн бұрын
I hate the trend of chipmakers of giving these chips so much power (watts), they don’t need it. It’s just worsening the experience of the consumers by having phones go up to 50 celsius. Just lower the wattage, and if the chip is more efficient it will do better and it will be more stable in stress tests
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 2 күн бұрын
It's crazy. The 8 Elite can go up to 17W, and 3 years ago my desktop system was Xeon based that was on 55W... Air cooked with Noctua, 500 gram copper and 4 big fans
@europeanfootball1921
@europeanfootball1921 8 сағат бұрын
can you include exynos in this test?I want to know how well the development of Exynos is, lately, many smartphone reviewers say that Exynos is much better in performance, stability and temperature.
@AlexC_90
@AlexC_90 4 күн бұрын
Gen 2 is the best processor of recent years.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Yep, I believe that 8 Elite is great as it finally beats current Apple silicone in multi core scores so hopefully the next generations will bring greatness.
@Mobagamer9625
@Mobagamer9625 3 күн бұрын
In my realme gt 7 pro no overheating and performance is next level 🔥
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
Monster phone! How is game fusion sid you try it out with GTA V?
@Mobagamer9625
@Mobagamer9625 3 күн бұрын
@VelianSpeaksTech no bro but I try genshin wuthering waves and genshin
@speedclips_858
@speedclips_858 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for your vids
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching man... I wanted to relax on Saturday but .. And my day is gone. So appreciate someone watching.
@Entroprox
@Entroprox 3 күн бұрын
Can you get the ROG 9 pro ?
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
Not sure man. It's a lot of money...
@Entroprox
@Entroprox 3 күн бұрын
@VelianSpeaksTech understandable 👍💯. I was only suggesting that as the Xioami is not a good representation of what max performance of the 8E is .
@lggr2261
@lggr2261 2 күн бұрын
S24 ultra has 8gen3 for galaxy higher clocked version same for s23 ultra 8gen2 higher clocked version
@hafidzjaysurahman1620
@hafidzjaysurahman1620 3 күн бұрын
where is the link for AI benchmark test APK?
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
Playstore AI benchmark
@FPSDuLe
@FPSDuLe 3 күн бұрын
If you ask me 8 Elite is consuming a lot of power. 👀
@PisToN_Ganj
@PisToN_Ganj 3 күн бұрын
Hyper os optimisation is worse. I have F5 and facing heating issue after updating. Every update
@Z1bi
@Z1bi 4 күн бұрын
Can you make sape comparisons when s25 ultra out?
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Of course, hopefully with Xiaomi 15 Ultra as well
@Z1bi
@Z1bi 4 күн бұрын
I thought you were a young guy based in your voice
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
I used to be.... now I am semi young 🤣
@Z1bi
@Z1bi 4 күн бұрын
@@VelianSpeaksTech nah you're an old expired man
@BurgerParty
@BurgerParty 3 күн бұрын
Lmfao xiaomi always tauting they have yearly upgraded thermals lmfao and theyre hype os so garbage focused on appearance but not on optimization and performance .
@rodolfogenovese7042
@rodolfogenovese7042 4 күн бұрын
Gen 2 remains the best for long-term performance, for the others you always need a heatsink. I prefer a redmagic 10pro or the tablet, otherwise you don't have to use it under stress for a long time. I don't want to burn my hands
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
It's becoming a true legend, also best emulation support, good sustained performance, well balanced really...
@rodolfogenovese7042
@rodolfogenovese7042 4 күн бұрын
@VelianSpeaksTech The thing that bothers you is always the dissipation of heat 😭 Otherwise yes is powerful but for me gen 2 remains the best in the long run
@RonaldPanorama
@RonaldPanorama 3 күн бұрын
This comparison has to do with software
@dexopt
@dexopt 3 күн бұрын
we all know that hyperos sucks in thermals and performance. wait for the aosp results on xiaomi🔥🔥
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 3 күн бұрын
RN unlock is very hard even with paid services sadly. I am sticking with China HO2 for a whole 😆
@earlyhooman9381
@earlyhooman9381 4 күн бұрын
Bro wallpaper link.
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Wallrod app
@jagannathan8916
@jagannathan8916 4 күн бұрын
how to blast the Xiaomi 15 😂
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
😜It survived hehe, I really enjoy this phone, the size is right and everything else is acceptable
@Abdelrahman0099
@Abdelrahman0099 3 күн бұрын
4.32 Gh 🥵
@izu.
@izu. 4 күн бұрын
I love this app
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
CPU T? If yes, me too.
@amoghupadhyay
@amoghupadhyay 4 күн бұрын
Hun
@duality_91
@duality_91 4 күн бұрын
Sd 8 gen2 is the best cheapest!!!
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Die besten 😜
@codgamerz9927
@codgamerz9927 4 күн бұрын
This test is wrong why don't you wait for pro model of Xiaomi 15
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
I am not getting the Pro, I want the Xiaomi 15 Ultra. It's not out yet, it's just a benchmark, how can a benchmark be wrong or right? If I could run cpu throttling test on my Nokia N70 I d do it anyway. If you buy the same phones you ll end up getting same results. Will the Xiaomi 15 run cooler than 49.9? I doubt it.
@codgamerz9927
@codgamerz9927 4 күн бұрын
@VelianSpeaksTech I'm glad sir atleast you replied my comment❤️.... how about if you can compare non Pro models like samsung s24 and s23 not ultra
@VelianSpeaksTech
@VelianSpeaksTech 4 күн бұрын
Of course man, I try to reply always! I am hoping to get an Ultra phone and then will redo the tests vs S23U and S24U... Why didn't I get base S23 or S24? Well they are not great tbh, small battery, bad battery life also camera wise nothing fancy... But I like small and compact phones and the Xiaomi 13 and Xiaomi 14 and 15 are just great! I had the Xiaomi 13 then the 14 Pro and when Xiaomi released the 15 with 8 Elite I was sure I am getting one! It has outstanding battery life, good display and speakers, haptics is okay, the performance is really great even the main camera is okay, being exactly the same as last year's Xiao 14... The only compromise in the camera is the zoom domain I guess.
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