Velleman Vertex K8400 - Adding Dual Extruders and RGB LEDs

[@thehappyextruder7178]

Great Video Jim, I like the back up plan just in case, really appreciate the process of going from box to upgrades ! Happy Extruding.

[@ThingsWhichArentWork]

Thanks Happy Extruder. Glad you found the video helpful/useful/interesting (delete as appropriate) :-)... Cheers!!

[@BenjasUberHobby]

Not bad. To bad there were so many issues trying to get it all to work great together. That led kit wow. Think I would have given up and just gotten a led kit that was independent of the printer. Although it would not have the alternating colors though :( But looks like it is working great now :) Thanks for sharing :)

[@TheNorthwestForager]

I really enjoy watching what these printers can do. Someday it will have a modification for printing food :] and we can call it a replicator.

[@FesterWerks]

Thanks for the video, Jim. Awesome kitty!

[@terry2xb]

Hi Jim is that Lightning Kit from Vellemann or wich product is that?I have the same K8400 but not ready and i have the second Nossel too will beginninnig whit the montage in the next days!Nice that printing whit 2 different collors filament.Lovely Cat there....lol

[@RexConstenla]

Hello! Thanks for posting this video! Could you please share the settings you find more apropriate for the Innofill PVA filament? I also have a Velleman Vertex K8400 printer with a dual extrusion and it's the first time I spend one week trying to get a decent work with this Innosolve filament. But seeing that it's possible is very encouraging :D Thanks again!

[@ThingsWhichArentWork]

I found Innofil to be a nightmare to work with... It extrudes OK at 210-230C, but it is very moisture sensitive and has a big tendency to hiss, crackle and pop as it extrudes. I also found that trying to get plastics to extrude on top of the innofil was very difficult as the had adhesion problems and ended up falling off part way through the print. I haven't attempted to use it again since this video, and have instead been using different plastics as support materials... PLA is a good support for PET (and vice versa) because they don't bond to each other. Hope that helps. Cheers!!

[@RexConstenla]

Jim Conner Ok! I'm having the same problems. It doesn't wan't to adhere to the platform no matter the height of the platform... Since now I was thinking that it was a temperature issue so I decided to decrease the temperature of the nozzle and incease the fanspeed but... it was in vain. So i'll try to go back to 210°C Thanks a lot! :-)

[@hassanl3013]

Hey Jim I have been watching your serie about the vertex k8400 and now i bought one thanks to you. My question is : If you had to order by priority the upgrades you did to the vertex what would it be ? (heatbed, dual extruder, rgb, custom printed pieces etc..)

[@ThingsWhichArentWork]

Hi Hassan - The absolute first upgrade I'd do is print off a couple of these... www.thingiverse.com/thing:1078641 ... They have the holes in a slightly different location to make inserting the filament easier. Second upgrade should be the heat bed. Dual extruders was something of a let-down because of there's a steep learning curve in getting dual extruder prints without oozing from the unused nozzle causing problems. The only things I've done with dual extruders have all been feautred in this series, but I've actually unscrewed the second extruder nozzle for day-to-day use. E3D hot-ends are a very worthwhile upgrade later down the road when you've got familiar with getting the best from the printer... highly recommend those. Final upgrade I'd do is the Trinamic TMC2100 stepper motor drivers, which get you near-silent operation... but that upgrade involves changes to the cooling setup, so leave that one till least. Hope that helps. Cheers!!

[@hassanl3013]

Hi Jiùm, this is more than perfect answer to the question, I greatly appreciate and hope it can help other people :)

[@RWBHere]

Comment from cat, when you mentioned installing it: 'Me? How?'. O.K. I'll close the door behind me.

[@jimkorsnes6127]

Hi Jim. I am using simplify 3d and cant get the extruders to line up when i try do a rpint with dual color. it starts with the one color but when its time for color number 2 it prints it beside it. I have tried pretty much every tip i have found on internet. do you know how to fix this?

[@ThingsWhichArentWork]

Hi JIm - I had that problem to begin with. The setting in the software for the distance between the nozzles was wrong by default. Can't remember what the correct number was off the top of my head (I measured with a ruler). Hope that helps. Cheers!!

[@jimkorsnes6127]

ok will measure and see. Have you used simplify 3d? If so do you know where i should change the number? Im not sure if i have found the right place to change it

[@kevinlaurent3589]

Bonjour j'ai moi même une vertex k8400 j'ai u beaucoup de mal au départ et quelques fois encore mai sa va. Tu en es content ou pas ? Et je vois que tu utilise cura comment a tu fai moi impossible je suis toujours sur repetier. J'ai quelque souci d'impression des fois. Je pourrais te donner mai réglage pour comparer. Bonne vidéo merci Salut

[@ThingsWhichArentWork]

Bonjour Kevin. Vous devrez utiliser Cura 2.7 beta pour prendre en charge le Vertex K8400. Le profil par défaut de Cura a installé une plate-forme de construction chauffée par défaut, vous devrez donc désactiver la boîte dans les Paramètres-> Imprimantes-> Vertex-> Paramètres de la machine si votre imprimante n'en a pas encore. J'ai également constaté que les étapes de l'extrudeuse / mm sont fausses dans le firmware Vertex et sont réglées à 200 pas / mm. En modifiant ce réglage dans les menus des imprimantes jusqu'à 147 pas / mm, tout fonctionne bien pour moi. J'espère que cela vous aide. À votre santé!!

[@kevinlaurent3589]

Bonjour Jim merci beaucoup pour cette réponse moi jai bien installée le plateaux chauffant et c'est le bonheur ☺️. J'ai téléchargé cura 2.7 beta il y a pa longtemps mai pas tout compris ☺️ et impossible de régler je vais réessayer. Et oui effectivement j'ai descendu a 147 pas / mm. Moi jai également descendue accélération max /s x 5000 y 5000 z 100 E 1000 pour moi je trouve que sa aller trop vite. je t'enverrai une photo ou video pour voir mai réglage merci a toi good job jim merci

[@stefaancodde6578]

I've replaced the board cause it was too slow for 2 nozzles., pausing every time. I replaced the board with a Bigtreetech skr V1.3 and TMC drivers. Far faster this is a 32 bit board and TMC drivers are more silent then the stock drivers. I use SPI mode. This board is smaller then the amtmega 2560 board.0

[@krishna34674]

cat!

[@Deadeye0815]

You HIT the Cat with the Filament Box :'(

[@ThingsWhichArentWork]

+Deadeye0815 Only a tiny bit. She'd just decided to run her head on the box as I stated to move it around. No animals were harmed or distressed during the making of this video. Cheers!!