Velma Is Textbook Character Assassination

[@AaronCrafty]

So in this video I accidently said "infamous" instead of "famous" and just realized it now. I MEANT FAMOUS LOL.

[@davidtrainor9569]

At least Big Mouth can be educational, this feels like something they made for a tax write off

[@darkstalkerknight63]

Question. Did you Shaggy's real name has always been Norville Rogers.

[@thedemonlord275]

Nah you got it right

[@duelmasteryuya1205]

@@davidtrainor9569 The fact that this show is on the decline of awful levels like High Guardian Spice is a TESTAMENT to how awful writers can be at modern times.

[@PaperStar64]

@@duelmasteryuya1205 I think the writers are good. It's just that they chose to be bad and raunchy to fit "today's standards" and think about what they would want...

[@virginiafernandez6846]

It's SO disappointing they made Daphne a Queen Bee. She was one of the only characters I remember that were girly and not a bitch or a bimbo (mainly in mystery inc. The original Daphne didn't have a personality). They did the same to Stella in the Winx reboot.

[@N0t.Vincent.Charbonneau]

Ikr it's like according to them popular pretty girls can never be nice.

[@pixelman6193]

@ٴ if it really was you wouldn't have to come here to tell randoms on here

[@gallohalt]

daphne was the wacky one in be cool scooby doo. it was pretty funny most of the time, like in one episode they go to new orleans and shes convinced that shes a vampire

[@nicolasg8091]

I’m the original wasn’t she basically just bubbly, light-hearted and curious? That’s still a personality.

[@crawlingboy]

I mean what's new Scooby Doo had her like that as well even the older ones she even regularly helped the gang being from a rich family

[@IIIOldSchooLIII]

"Zoinkers, what the fuck?" is already better comedy writing than what the show itself has to offer.

[@josepass2563]

Agreed

[@ssj_roger]

I was about to write this

[@YouArePitiful]

Yeah I actually laughed at that

[@sheyjake]

100%

[@UnknownGamer40464]

yeah there's a video called "Fred says Fυck" that's the same concept and it is very funny

[@CorinnePrudenteMusic]

Another really sad thing is it's not even true that none of the Scooby-Doo reboots have had deep plotlines. The plot of Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated actually ends up being very serious and well-done, and there's even an element of horror introduced while still being a kid's show.

[@tully6648]

Right? MI had a plot that separated the gang, and by the time they got back together again they only get a bit of a breather before finding out that their friendship might not even be real, but instead some predestined BS orchestrated by an Eldritch abomination that has been working over and dooming groups exactly like them for CENTURIES. It has sly references to HP Lovecraft, Twin Peaks, cameos other sleuthing cartoon series, nods to some of its previous incarnations (that line about Scrappy sends me every time) and real nightmare fuel scenarios and character deaths. AND it had MVP Vincent van Ghoul! So, yeah. This show could have, SHOULD have, done better.

[@alexlaniel9549]

Going from mystery incorporated to this is so disappointing. MI gave so much personality to everyone and still managed to get some mature themes in. I really liked how they portrayed insecurity through every character. Especially Fred at the end of part 1 when his life crumbles.

[@snakeeyesvolley8178]

They killed hotdog water at the end with a machine gun. That show was so serious on the last episodes and is the best iteration of the series

[@tully6648]

@@snakeeyesvolley8178 And the things holding the guns were basically Nazi robots, too. It takes a while for MI to build up to the actual overarching plot, but once it takes off it is a WILD ride.

[@marvelousmemeworks1234]

ohh I just got back some of my old PTSD from the episode superior dolls that toy factory was something else

[@kade-qt1zu]

Isn't it ironic that most children's shows have more maturity and respect for their audience and their characters than Velma and the majority of adult shows.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

I think that's because kids media has to be more creative with how they handle adult themes by their very nature of being kids media.

[@philly_sports1558]

Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Avatar, The Owl House, original Teen Titans, Amphibia, Steven Universe, etc.

[@heronekkotheanimer7386]

It is because they have to create a show that is entertaining for both kids and adults so they work very hard for it. When you can enjoy a show from young to old age, you know it is a good show.

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

fr

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

@@philly_sports1558 fr

[@Jinbeizamezama]

Trying to make scooby doo darker and more adult is a super interesting concept considering that mysteries, especially true crime mysteries, often have darker adult themes where people get hurt. But leaving them in high school while adding a bunch of nudity and stuff like that feels really icky. They're children, I don't need a shower scene. Could've aged em up to college, could've had Velma going to college because she's smart, Shaggy being a stoner because he's Shaggy, Fred being the rich 'I don't need college I have daddy's money' and Daphne trying to make it in the world without college (modelling or influencer maybe?) That would've opened up SO many possible storylines and angles. But nah here's a bunch of naked children.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

On the bright side, they're not actual kids like say, Cuties. It's not much, but I'm trying here...

[@alfiejob6546]

If you're looking for a mature, more darker take on Scooby Doo ip then I'd recommend the show "Mystery Incorporated". It's quite good.

[@Projolo]

They confuse mature with juvenile.

[@nessarolla]

This already sounds way more interesting than this show. Daphne could have been the rich bitch in college but she wants to earn that respect with her blood sweat and tears but noooo gotta have sex jokes every 5 seconds.

[@rijjhb9467]

The problem is that this cartoon is a comedy. Every American cartoon HAS TO BE a comedy, no matter the age rating. A dark mystery show about serial killers shouldn't have been a comedy.

[@GGA_42]

I'm an aspiring writer and I love the new Velma series! It teaches me exactly how to not write characters!

[@zilesis1]

tbh, i think the show's main problem is that it's attached to the Scooby-Doo franchise. I mean, the characters aren't great, but if they were just some random teens solving a murder the show would probably just be classed as another Family Guy clone and the public would have left it at that

[@GGA_42]

@zilesis1 I fully agree, the whole reason we hate it so much is because it tries to profit of something previously established and in the process ruins the love people have for it. Only reason we hate it is because it takes something we love and shits all over it, if that wasn't the case then we'd be indifferent.

[@Sammimie]

Sameee but with high guardian spice 💀

[@PastelOddity]

Fun fact: Warner Bros. REFUSED to license Scooby-Doo the character for Velma. Another fun fact: Shaggy's full name is Norville "Shaggy" Rogers, but in every iteration, the only people that call him Norville are professional adults.

[@Zarastro54]

Because why would any young person EVER want to be called Norville. Him being black now makes it even MORE ridiculous that he’d go by that given name.

[@rebeccamiller9310]

Thank you Warner Bros for not letting Mindy kill off the character of the most beloved fictional great dane in all of the americas and Europe. Without him, this show will quickly be considered non-canon as soon as they pull the plug.

[@leoultimaupgraded9914]

@@rebeccamiller9310 Good, I dont want this show anywhere near the originals

[@justinjacobs1501]

Probably didn't want the name "Shaggy" associated with this train wreck either.

[@jacobasnodgrass5853]

@@justinjacobs1501 definitely this since they still market shaggy in games, social media etc still.

[@tink6225]

this is what happens when the industry just won't leave old shows alone. which happens way too often

[@elbrayanqebinquispecondori]

Only evil can destroy the good stories

[@DodgeDart]

There is a new Scooby Doo cartoon every year. This is normal. In two years there will be five more Scooby Doo adaptations that are more on brand that you won’t watch so calm down.

[@TonyWitDaBaloni]

@@DodgeDart this one is just way more shit than all the other ones

[@artemisfowl7332]

Scooby doo has plenty of modern shows. Mystery incorporated is one of the best Scooby doo shows ever made but this is just absolute trash

[@elbrayanqebinquispecondori]

@@DodgeDart and all with include a BLACK shaggy?

[@anxietymonstr]

An adult Scooby Doo could've been amazing, like you said- horrifying monsters, slasher scenes, a more serious plot. But instead.. just gross humor that basically says, "What if Scooby Doo.. but they SWEEAAR??"

[@sillyguy_5559]

Fred could finally get an unique exclamation You F### b### Ghost

[@themaniax8265]

My thoughts exactly, imagine if the gang deals with someone like Freddy Krueger or Leatherface. That would be insane, however, we got this bullshit.

[@fed3758]

There is an adult Scooby-Doo Mystery incorporated, a character is gunned down in it off screen

[@conflict7269]

Soon as i seen the opening scene its disgusting who tf thinks this is entertainment

[@_freedomx]

FR i wanted something like this too!

[@_somebody_9996]

What makes me sad is that this level of talent, animators, and artists are wasted on this overly edgy show. The animation is really good.

[@DodgeDart]

The show is good too

[@_somebody_9996]

@@DodgeDart sure………..

[@kakagakakerger4165]

@@DodgeDart no not really they just used scooby doo name to get fame for their meta twitter-ass show

[@CaptainMarvel-ew7rn]

The animation is not good lol. What are you talking about. They literally took the total dram Island style and tried to put it on scooby doo. But it doesn’t work. Just looks plain ugly on the scooby characters. And no Dodge Dart the show is not good. Maybe if your a fan of shit shows then sure it’s good within YOUR STANDARDS. But the rest of us have actual standards.

[@_somebody_9996]

@@CaptainMarvel-ew7rn If you think this animation is ugly, then you don’t know as much about it as most people do. The coloring, set design, composition is great especially in the hallucination scenes.

[@TheeJasonReyes]

Mindy Khaling gonna pull the sexist/racism card when she see's no one likes the show

[@Hi...ItsLizzMitchell]

The race swapping doesn't help anything either though

[@jasoniacullo1613]

So many studios do this now when their show fails

[@Tores444]

Well her sexism and racism definitely is a problem here

[@ShyBiiteVT]

@@Hi...ItsLizzMitchell I think that's why they race swapped Shaggy and Velma. To use as a scapegoat.

[@DodgeDart]

I doubt she cares. She got paid. What she will comment on is the amount of death threats and a hate she is getting for a franchise no adult has watched or cared for since they were kids themselves lol.

[@He11raiser01]

To the show’s credit, I absolutely loved when the credits rolled because it meant it was over.

[@honey-mo]

It’s kind of ironic because didn’t Mindy say she wouldn’t let her kids watch The Office because it was too offensive for today’s social climate? But including sex and nudity with minors is funny…? 😶

[@benjirivoh]

that's so fucking weird of her

[@syca5094]

Louder 🤌🏾

[@ImaginaryJ-km7cr]

Hahaha LOL

[@radioactivereptile7286]

@maravreviews4035 are you a drug addict? Mindy is literally the opposite of woke. Shes a right wing conservative that thinks that all of societies problems come from women that arn't her. She's a freaky incel.

[@cupackrk7382]

@Marav Reviews what

[@Tenshii_Artii]

The thing that got me appalled was when Velma was writing that “Hope you die!” Message. Like, no. That’s not Velma. She may have a sharp tongue, and a tad bit sarcastic. But she would never threaten someone like that. They just turned her, and Daphne into legit mean girls .

[@bashartz]

Nah get that mean girls trope outta here. Maybe Daphne but velma? She feels like a straight up narcissistic asshole. "I'm better than you" type shit. Hell even Daphne to a degree but they just made her dumber than Velma. That's not good character writing. Wanna turn Daphne into a likeable asshole? Sure, you can do that. Just give her a proper narrative. Hell even I can do better than them: She can be a rich girl who never got proper attention from her parents due to them being constantly busy and pretends to be overly confident and stomps others to feel better about herself, when in reality it does nothing and she feels empty and sad. You can tackle that even BETTER in an adult show if you ask me, because you don't have to limit the words you use. That would've been a great way for her and Velma to connect, with velma being smart but socially awkward, making her sympathize with Daphne and help her through it. IT IS THAT EASY.

[@Tenshii_Artii]

@@bashartz And I agree. And with that idea of yours, I could even say it gives a reason for Velma and Daphne to grow closer. Hence the Lesbian relationship between them. But no, from what I’ve seen, they seem to hate each others guts so much. Banter, sure. But It’s so toxic, I can’t even see how even a Lesbian relationship would work on the surface.

[@3slicessenpai]

They could have made this about original characters set in the future of the Scooby universe. "Velma" could be a girl named, I dunno, Janette that idolizes the Mystery Incorporated, a group that, in the future has made a name for themselves for solving supernatural mysteries and Velma was her idol growing up. Janette would try to copy Velma's style so she could grow up to be a mystery solver as well, but the trauma over her mother's disappearance makes solving mysteries both her biggest dream and darkest trauma, causing an interesting clash as she rounds up the group of teenage misfits that would become the new Mystery Incorporated, but also not be carbon copies of the OGs, complete with their own quirks and flaws.

[@bashartz]

Ngl I'd fucking watch that. Especially if they had their own goofy sidekick. Hell if it was Janette's let it would be even better, would help establish their relationship and maybe be a good development tool for overcoming her trauma!!!

[@stannosaurus]

Right? I'd love to see a gen 2 Scooby Doo, not some total scrapping of the og characters

[@DuckyDoesSmth9517]

hear me out... a chihuahua dog to complete the gang, i'd be so fucking hyped if this was the new "Velma show"

[@pixazelz]

Or made a completely different show ... Since the only thing about "Scooby doo" in this show is the names and clothes if they didn't have that, we would never have known the show was supposed to be about Scooby doo but for adults.

[@aladdout9454]

Its like Mindy khalling was so disconnected and "unpopular" or "uncool kid" in highschool that she's living that life in her adulthood, while everyone around her is over that phase. She's that embarrassing "cool aunty" we have in every indian family that fails miserably while trying to be relatable to the kids.

[@ORLY911]

Sadly people like her are all about making sure we are in perpetual high school, look at how people act on social media and all these woke writers and figures are, it's just ruminating in cliques.

[@SniperJade71]

Damn lmfao

[@monkey6207]

I see a lot of writers of Young Adults books living this same fantasy. I just don't get why anyone likes their products?

[@thomasraines1396]

It’s like the scene from 30 Rock with Steve Buscemi, the “How do you do fellow kids?” bit.

[@mishaa7263]

being popular in high school is so overrated anyway

[@gayspaghetti3374]

They're trying to get lore points for using Shaggy's canon legal name, which is Norville, but they're missing the point that Shaggy hates his actual name, hence why everyone calls him Shaggy. Plus, this didn't have to be a show about Velma and the Scooby Gang. It could be completely original characters. I think they're just using the gang to try and get people to watch it.

[@EpicGamer-iy3fk]

Especially since the only resemblence these characters have to the original gang is their names.

[@brianaguilar8283]

Maybe he’s not called Shaggy because it wouldn’t make sense now that he’s black? He doesn’t have shaggy hair anymore but curls

[@papkinn]

They're deadnaming Shaggy

[@drfrankiestein1076]

It'd be racist calling a black man shaggy.

[@gayspaghetti3374]

@drfrankiestein1076 Yes, which is why the show would have benefitted from having an original cast. Even if the HBO rumor is true, there is no reason it had to be the Scooby cast.

[@smoothoxygen4871]

Not enough people talk about how horrible they portrayed Fred, he's a kind, likable, chill guy who likes traps. Instead we got a racist, narcissistic, psycho. Which yeah, they might make him develope as a character, but they've changed him so much that it's going to feel unnatural if he just does a 180 no matter how well it's executed (which it probably won't be)

[@bliczb8772]

I find it hilarious that he's an unironic racist and narcissist, and yet, he's quite possibly the least repulsive person in the show. Did they not see the optics there?

[@smoothoxygen4871]

@@bliczb8772 now that the show has been around for a while. I've started to like him more, definitely not to the point where I think he's a well written character, but hey, at least he has, like, one funny line

[@kekecole889]

Mindy does the same self insert narrative with all of her shows. She follows the “American-Indian girl that doesn’t want to be inclined with here culture so they change their self for popularity” it’s getting so boring and it’s weird that she decided to do this with Scooby-Doo as well.

[@DodgeDart]

And I like that about Mindy’s work. You just don’t get it. It's not made for you.

[@SchmergDergen]

@@DodgeDart shut up Meg.

[@ImaginaryJ-km7cr]

@@DodgeDart yeah but doing it with something like Scooby Doo is NOT a good idea

[@GIRLZ-ARE-HAWT]

@@DodgeDart but don’t you think it gets repetitive and may cause more harm to south Asian girls then help?? Idk it ain’t my place to say but i Can say that these characters are def not like the scooby doo gang as it was establish

[@lukebingus9432]

@@DodgeDart As great as it can be, doing the same shtick or jokes as a comedian in general gets stale and repetitive.

[@GestaIter]

Honestly the weirdest part is how the entire first episode is setting up an actual murder, which usually wasn’t done with the original series, but then Fred casually chops off a guys leg and nobody cares. You can’t just DO that, it completely ruins the established tone and rules that “murder isn’t funny”

[@leoultimaupgraded9914]

Yea i almost completely forgot HE CHOPS OFF A DUDES LEG. Sure it was an accident but it makes no sense, if your gonna do that joke make his leg get broken or injured not cut off.

[@caseydia3957]

Right, and then they act like no one cares that he just did that, but the plot is about looking for a murder suspect. Velma was questioned by the police but fred gets a free pass for a joke. It's just inconsistent and offputting

[@clintshidwood4511]

its like a dumb family guy cut away gag that doesn't stop and is in the background of that entire scene. pick a lane, either cartoon logic where his leg heals after the camera cuts away and continue as normal or acknowledge the bleeding out and dying student is a school with a serial killer witch hunt currently on going.

[@ohmygodbecky6829]

Why care about a murder if their mortality and wellbeing are just jokes treated like an afterthought This writing is legitimately bad

[@myidolgwen359]

reminds me of the snl skit of scooby doo where its harmless investigation until the new girl shoots the kook in the monster suit and everyone loses their minds "YOU KILLED HIM! HE TECHNICALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG OR ILLEGAL"

[@supermariof0521]

Ya know what would've been a better idea for a "Scooby Doo" spinoff? A feature film focusing on Scrappy Doo that addresses the problems many fans had with him while also working to redeem him as a character. Take the traits people hated about him, and make said traits not suck.

[@cadettrev762]

And hey, if they failed miserably, at least they’d only be ruining an already bad character instead of ones we like

[@brigidtheirish]

Which, honestly, shouldn't be that hard. The way I saw Scrappy, he was *supposed* to be the annoying little kid Scooby was stuck taking care of. Often having to delay getting out of danger, or even *go into danger,* to save the pup. I've worked with dogs for quite a few years and have *met* dogs like Scrappy. Primarily terriers and other dogs that never get bigger than ten pounds as adults, though.

[@supermariof0521]

@@brigidtheirish Interesting. Though in my idea, Scrappy has to solve a mystery of who frammed the Scooby Gang.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@supermariof0521 That could be a fun story. I haven't thought this much about Scooby-doo in *years.* Honestly, kinda got tired of the show quickly because of the strict formula and the mystery not playing fair. I *like* mysteries, but I want all the clues to at least show up on screen (or be mentioned when it's a book) so there's a chance I can solve it along with the characters. With Scooby-doo, all you have to work with are tropes. The most frustrating part is that I *like* the characters, I just didn't like the *show.*

[@supermariof0521]

@@brigidtheirish Hence why things like "Zombie Island" and "Mystery Incorporated" are the most popular versions of this franchise.

[@growingupwithdisney]

A mature rating for this shouldn’t just make the characters be sexual and make those kinds of jokes. They should’ve used it to do more with the mystery aspect

[@BingQilin]

make it sad and nihlistic like bojack audiences will eat it up

[@beepboop2842]

i wouldnt mind dirty humor but its always that typical, "oh my god naked ppl! sex in the bathroom! farting and twerking! saying fuck 1000 times!"

[@rebeccamiller9310]

Don't forget the same people that are cheering for the random race and name swapping are usually the ones that are lamenting the sexualizing of young teenagers on tv. Yet you don't see any real professional outrage over these 15 year olds doing and saying all these obvious sexual things.....

[@sanjeethmahendrakar]

It's really not that hard to write the core characters of Scooby Doo... Fred: leader and occasional muscle of the group for doing the heavy stuff. He's the captain America type and keeps the group coordinated. To balance him out his negative trait is that he's kinda useless on his own. Daphne: the rich girl so she has resources. Also extremely good at social interaction and can pick up cues when they talk to suspects. She's basically street smart. Also the one reboot which has her learn martial arts was nice so do that again. Similarly to Fred her negative trait can be the fact that she's not book smart. Velma: the smartest and is the one who puts all the clues together. Negative trait, she is not good at talking with people Shaggy and Scooby: the lovable goofballs who have a knack for attracting trouble and gathering important clues. A negative trait would be the fact that he doesn't look so great but that's more than made up due to his charisma and the dude is just a good guy. And boom meet the gang. A good writer can have so much fun with this cast.

[@ooSHINIES]

shaggy/scooby negative trait would probably be cowardice instead of looks.

[@mr.ed.8533]

in mystery incorporated Fred was good at planning a trap(a little too much at times) and couldn't pick up social cues at least when it came to dating Daphne i think

[@ginnys.matthias1818]

FRED IS THE TRAPS GUY!

[@bashartz]

For me, as someone who likes designing and writing characters, the simpler the character the more creative you can get. You start with a one line for each positive and negative trait and develop them from there. If you start with too much it would be impossible to develop. In the end we are supposed to CONNECT with the character, you don't become friends with someone you know to the tea, you start with a first impression and go from there. And it seems like they couldn't do that in the show. Hell they could've made them actual likeable assholes and failed at that too. Imagine being this bad

[@nannerhannah3268]

Not looking good isn't really a negative trait, scaggy's negative trait was always that he is a coward. Which works just fine as a negative trait

[@Kazini_]

The irony is that, in creating this version of Velma, they reduced her character to only "the smart one" as what they kept of the original, and even that I'd put into doubt.

[@rebeccamiller9310]

Scooby Doo mystery incorporated actually got very dark, psychological and complex. Characters were brutally killed off(a supporting character drowns, a redeemed villain gets executed, a dog gets horribly injured in a stampede, and more), even if it was off-screen, and the climax was a slow boil and very sinister twist as a demonic entity that the gang had to take down with real violence.

[@Ultra04channel]

Oh hey, don't forget Velma's girlfriend getting mowed down with a machine gun offscreen! In all seriousness though, that really was a great show. Why can't we have stuff like that?

[@boxylemons7961]

It shouldn't have really been that hard to make an adult scooby doo show and mystery inc proves it. The showrunners and producers really had no excuse to make the show this bad.

[@dragonheart1236]

Not to mention that *spoilers* IN THE FINALE, EVERYONE IN TOWN BUT THE GANG ARE FUCKING EATEN BY AN ELDRITCH HORROR

[@rebeccamiller9310]

@@Ultra04channel yes that was Hotdog Water, the redeemed villain lol

[@BabuBabu-ip6oh]

Hold on, *EXECUTED??* The hell happened

[@whoahanant]

"40 uses of the word bich and they're all said by Velma" accurately describes both Velma as a character and this entire show.

[@jessnalulila5552]

Half of them

[@gaiusperson8704]

*half of them. But still

[@phillipfrederiksen214]

I Can live with the fact that they changed the ethnicity of the characters if they still felt like the original characters but when they feel nothing like the originals it just feels like original characters cosplaying as scooby doo characters

[@twilightsparkle2764]

cosplay is a very accurate and point striking word mate!

[@skullton3292]

When I was a teenage boy I wrote a godawful fanfiction about Velma being turned into a vampire so she and the gang get dragged into a supernatural mystery while Velma falls in love with a good Vampire that saved her from the one who bit her. Even that was better than this. Edit: I appreciate the praise but the fanfic was one of those fanfics where the OC takes over. The Vampire Love interest took over the story and pretty much became the main character. That's why I'm ashamed of it. Also, I wrote it on paper and have long since lost it. I'm a 22-year-old adult now and I made it when I was like 13-14. I have long since lost it (probably thrown away). Thanks for the praise though, I really appreciate it.

[@saininj]

Yooooooooooo, upload that to Wattpad. It just might get picked up.

[@cameron2069]

As a premise that actually sounds like a far more interesting show.

[@Li8aGun92]

sounds actually not bad

[@BoSmith7045]

It's doesn't sound horrible. Yeah, I think most people would agree they would rather see a Velma centric story like that over whatever the hell this was supposed to be.

[@audiophile6475]

Bro submit that the Warner Bros stat, I guarantee they will greenlight it to cover this train wreck up.

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

I think it’s funny that they kept Scooby out because they thought that having him be in the show would be “Childish” when this show without him still feels like it’s something I would have wrote when I was 12 years old.

[@Xeno_Solarus]

Actually I believe they couldn't even get the rights to Scooby

[@Diogolindir]

I find it very absurd that Scooby is not here. Im no expert in Scooby Doo since I watched the original cartoon back in the 90s and that's it. Shaggy for instance wasn't interested in anything else than hanging out with Scooby and eating and I was ok with that. Him having a romantic interest? I don't care about that

[@synkt8759]

@@Xeno_Solarus Good

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

@@Xeno_Solarus Warner Bros can’t get the rights to Scooby? They fucking own him!?!!!?!

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 the show isn't from Warner Bros. It was Warner themselves that refused to let the show use Scooby

[@the-treviathan]

Aaron’s take on the swearing was 1000% better than anything the writing team could have ever thought of.

[@erisluna5786]

The part where Norville was being vulnerable about his feelings for Velma and then was met with laughter and invalidation kind of sealed how much they missed the mark with this show for me. I would've liked to see Velma admit that she isn't into any guy, establishing her sexuality in a more casual way. Then it could've been a bonding ish moment between the two and help the narrative of the gang coming together. With all this character assassination, and this meta and observational "humor" that doesn't have any kind of pay off I don't see myself getting through the series. I did like the animation and style; and honestly adult animation would be better if some creators didn't seem to try to copy trends of other adult animated shows. It's just sad to see so much potential wasted.

[@beepboop2842]

fr. it almost feels like shes only a lesbian cuz shes a manhating feminist 😭😭 but not the fact she realizes her interest in women and her possible crush on daphne

[@Ricardo-cl3vs]

It's supposed to be a show for kids, I don't want ANY sexual content in it! WTF is wrong with you people?!?

[@skelitonking117]

@@Ricardo-cl3vs but it’s not? It’s an R rated show dude?

[@Ricardo-cl3vs]

@@skelitonking117 But it shouldn't be! Was the original show R-rated?! Come on, don't pretend to be more stupid than you actually are! Dude.

[@rabbitguts2518]

@@beepboop2842 Genuine question but isn't it only this+ the last iteration that has Velma as a lesbian? I don't think it was ever confirmed by her actual creator/IP holder as definitive to all versions of her? I'll be honest it comes across more as tokenising and an attempt to gain favour in the previous iteration (since it was only stated in a tweet long after the show ended, where she was very clearly only shown romancing men in the actual show) and in this one it seems there solely as an excuse to make her a man hating bitch.(she's a bitch to everyone tho) Neither is good representation, if you could call it representation at all. I don't mind them making her a lesbian in some iterations since Cyberchase and Mystery Incorperated did imply there's multiple different dimensions/versions where they're all different, which works in allowing the characters to be any/every combination of sexualites or gender. However, if you're going to assign a characetr a non-het sexuality for god's sake DO IT SOME BLOODY JUSTICE. Don't use it as an excuse to perpetuate stereyotypes, don't use it as a characters only personality trait and please pleassseee don't just just slap it on after the fact to gain favour and defense against criticism from desperate LGBT+ people. Is it really that hard??

[@vivil2533]

3:24 "Scooby says, "ruh roh." Shaggy says, "zoinks." Velma says, "jinkies." Daphne says, "jeepers." What does Fred say?" "Fred says fuck" "HE DID NOT!" They had a chance to canonize the "Fred says Fuck meme" and they dropped the ball They had one job in an adult scooby doo animation and they done goofed it. That's a jinkies from me dawg.

[@5Geass]

Okay that was funny. I chuckled.

[@alfiejob6546]

Don't know if anyone else has brought it up, but it feels as if this was intended to be a completely original show with its own set of characters before being drastically changed and rewritten into a Scooby Doo show.

[@archersterling6726]

It probably was, but used the licensed characters for money grab

[@Sakuyamon]

Scooby did actually once have a deep complex plot. In "Mystery Inc.", one of the best shows made with Scooby. And sure it had its flaws and took some liberties with the characters, but it tightly held onto that core of what made Scooby, Scooby. If we compare "Welma" to "Mystery Inc", the later is divine and the former is trash not even worthy of burning in hell.

[@GhostyCanine]

“Not even worthy of burning in hell” what a line but also YES

[@somethingclever8916]

I love mystery inc

[@Sakuyamon]

@@GhostyCanine What can I say? Sometimes you just coin gold lines.

[@BazukinBelyugovich]

Loved Mystery Inc. They were true to the characters, there were some legit dark and creepy moments in the show, they kept the humor of the original, and clearly wrote the stories with care. It was great.

[@Sakuyamon]

@@BazukinBelyugovich indeed.

[@jacksonholder2987]

I didn't always enjoy Velma in Mystery Inc., but that version of the character was a way better attempt to tweak the character while not completely destroying it. She's snarky, similar to what they tried to do here, but not in a way that makes you wonder why anyone tolerates her presence in the first place. In fact, I guarantee pretty much everything this show tries has been done better by Mystery Inc. Just go watch that instead.

[@twinzzlers]

Mystery Inc's main problem was the Shaggy and Velma romance, as soon as they ditches that in a honestly good way it was so much better

[@kamronspencer4910]

@@twinzzlers that romance is supposed to be bad though so it works. Like their intentionally writing them as a bad couple

[@twinzzlers]

@@kamronspencer4910 That's not an excuse for how poorly written it was. It felt abusive and controlling, if that's what they wanted then christ they succeeded because the romantic plot tore Velma down as a character

[@kamronspencer4910]

@@twinzzlers it was on purpose yes. The relationship is written as toxic because it is. Their both forcing it and it’s not natural. The writers wrote it specifically to show that trying to force a relationship is bad and makes the people involved act bad.

[@twinzzlers]

@@kamronspencer4910 Not sure I believe that given how all of the toxicity came from Velma, with Shaggy shown to only being indecisive

[@Zinervawyrm]

The idea of Velma not swearing until she hits a breaking point reminds me of that one scene in Castlevania where Sypha starts cursing up a storm of S and F bombs, and Trevor, is like, "Excuse, me, what did you just say!?" While fighting a hoard of monsters and demons.

[@nicolasnamed]

I never really thought of Sypha and Velma as similar because I think Sypha is more pushy/outspoken but you're absolutely right that they have much in common lol

[@Zinervawyrm]

@@nicolasnamed The only other thing they have in common is that they are two very intelligent redheads with short hair.

[@ClawVA]

The thing about Harley Quinn is that they kept her character consistently crazy just like every other incarnation of her, sure she was different in her relationships (both mutually and sexually) but she was still this crazy girl who does whatever she wants, While Velma its a complete 180 They made Velma- That one nerd at school who will correct you if you don't know the specific type of pencil to use for writing versus drawing, to the hot cheeto girl In the bathroom who is literally the most obnoxious person you've met, this isn't even character assassination, it's character genocide-

[@cameronfrye8311]

Even if velma would correct you, she'd still be nice about it and offer to be your friend. They made a generally nice and thoughtful character into a horrid rude person

[@kittypeanut4102]

@@cameronfrye8311 Original Velma seems as someone i could easily be friends with, this Velma... well uh, i think our first interaction would be she cursing me out ._.

[@alexradjenovic]

Exactly! While that show is also very chaotic, it's perfectly in character for Harley Quinn, especially as throughout the show, it is through her eyes that we see Gotham. And even with the satire, the characters are for the most part true to their origins, the dark humour actually works, and we do get legitimately heartwarming moments in the series. None of these can be said for... whatever the hell this is. There's nothing wrong with dark adult comedy or satire, but those two terms do NOT equate to simply shitting on the source material for the fun of it. The new Velma show acts like it doesn't even understand the core characteristics of the major characters, with the titular character just being treated as a blank slate for the author to project herself into. Plus the fact that they made the same characters I practically worshipped as a kid into unlikeable idiots, because... reasons? While Harley Quinn is an affectionate parody of the DC Universe, Velma is just outright disrespectful to the original Mystery Inc gang.

[@boxylemons7961]

Why the fuck did the writers of the show not just take the pre-existing personalities of the scooby doo characters and put them in a more adult setting? it shouldn't have been that hard but they went out of their way to reduce all the characters to one dimensional jokes and stereotypes (Fred and Daphne are a useless rich kid and alpha bitch, completely disregarding their original characterizations). Who the fuck was this show even made for? If it's blatant that the people making it hate the source material and animation as a whole, but decided to just make the entire cast just generic sitcom assholes, did they genuinely think anyone at all would like this show?

[@carpeted-bathroom96]

I mean the Harlequin show was more of a exploration of Harley without the Joker? It works well dont get me wrong but oringinally harley did not always do what she wanted cause of the Joker. However she did do some crazy stuff with Ivy originally. I think the new show works well cause it builds off that dynamic.

[@seshisorce]

AARON my guy; I’m so glad you’re getting this amount of views on your personal channel even without jo involved. keep up the good work and pls also keep up the self confidence in your own humour, you’re doing great can’t wait to see more analysis-style videos from you !

[@roachofdoom1234]

Velma and Daphne are race swapped but still look like Velma and daphne. Velma has the glasses, correct hair, and outfits that very closely resemble Her original one. Daphne still has her red hair and purple outfits but Norville is more than just raceswapped. His hair is different, his face is shaped differently, and of course his voice is all wrong. Feels like an original character and not a reinterpretation of shaggy

[@vlo4829]

They all feel like "original characters". Fred wasn't race or gender-swapped, but nothing about his character bears any resemblence to who Fred was. Fred was a very genuine guy who liked every member of the gang. He was not arrogant or condescending and mean to Velma (or the others). Fred's "character" in this show is just a projection of pathetic racial and racist hang-ups Mindy has towards white people mixed with a heavy dose of humiliation fetish. Race and gender-swaps are the most easily noticable and most visible signals that a writer/director does not respect the source material, but they are not the only ways to disrespect it.

[@themagnificentgabster1989]

he doesn't even deserve his name anymore. i don't see any shagginess at all in his apperence

[@SeanWheeler100]

Honestly, the raceswapping in shows and movies have to stop. Just keep them looking like the original characters.

[@viimayhem_]

shaggy just isnt shaggy dude

[@boxylemons7961]

Beyond character designs none of the characters feel at all like their original selves. They basically just took out every interesting character trait they had and replaced it with "sitcom asshole" types, and not even actually funny ones. This show has fuck all to do with Scooby Doo besides having it slapped on.

[@burningspeed]

This show doesn't need jokes, it is a joke all on its own. Great video, keep up the great work.

[@accountpc4311]

The writers can now rest with that in mind, not that they weren't to begin with

[@XXMetro]

That "zoinkers... what the fuck?" you did made me happier than anything this show has produced or will ever produce.

[@YOURNOTSAFEAGAIN]

This show is so weird because it really feels like, even from the first trailer, that it came into being with this weird perspective that "We're gonna finally do Velma's character justice, give her the spotlight she deserves, and rewrite the wrongs that were done to her character!" Oh, you mean the character who consistently was the most observant, thoughtful, and intellectually capable person in the entire show without having to reduce herself to being mean or catty to do that? This entire show is trying to right a character wrong that had NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED If the writers actually cared about doing something mildly interesting than they'd have made the show about Daphne, considering that most people tend to see her as nothing but the dumb broad who gets captured, and actually showing how capable she is would have been a good way to show that how a person acts isn't necessarily how the outside world might think they ought to behave. But then instead this show literally doubles down on that and makes Daphne's character a stuck up bitch, purely because she's known as "the attractive one" from the show, because I guess being hot disqualifies you from being worthy of sympathy?

[@MrThirtyH]

13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo already showed Daphne being a confident leader way better than Mindy Kaling would ever be able to pull off.

[@taqresu5865]

Even if they went with your suggestion instead, I highly doubt they would have done justice for Daphne's character. They would have turned her into a masculine, mary sue who could do no wrong, and gets rewarded just for existing.

[@scottchaison1001]

Nah, Daphne doesn't need a show, especially if it's done by Mindy Kaling. Also, other Scooby-Doo series and movies (13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo, What's new Scooby-Doo, Zombie Island, the Live Action Movies, Mystery Inc., etc.) have already shown that Daphne is smart, creative, confident, etc., you know who really needs a series (a series that is made by good writers of course)? Fred, he's always been the most underrated member of the gang, most people just see him as a boring and flat character, when he's not.

[@luluzin5022]

I don't understand how the people behind Velma try to pass this show as woke and progressive, while also writing Daphne as a mean girl. The trope that every attractive girl in High School must be a bully and/or sexually active (and by that I mean she changes boyfriends all the time or smth like that) is so overdone and sexist.

[@r.e.d.studios]

In recent years, though, they've started to make Daphne more of a Mary Sue in the cartoon-movies to make up for that "issue." And I'm not just saying that. One of the halloween specials directly had a dialogue that said Daphne's an "everyday Mary Sue," which she didn't deny. She's always been a good character, and hasn't been made to be a typical damsel-in-distress in new shows for a long while. But at the same time, the new movies have been trying so hard to prove that she's useful that it comes off as pushy and I'll-conceived. So I'm a little disappointed that Velma has gotten shoved off to the side as a result, and hasn't contributed as much as Daphne gets allowed to. And this terrible abomination of a show certainly isn't giving Velma any help either.

[@tavrosnitram1529]

They could have literally just made them all college kids and it would have made it so much less creepy 😭

[@strawberrie6491]

anime does this all the time and no one comes for Japan

[@dalepx]

@@strawberrie6491 who’s gonna come for a whole country

[@icryrain]

@@dalepx north Korea

[@Watashi.star4]

@@icryraingood point 💀

[@Watashi.star4]

@@strawberrie6491true tho

[@0tosavage1969]

I actually teared up and cried of joy when I saw the end credits, that was my favorite part

[@olivia7438]

I feel like if this show wasn’t attached the Scooby doo IP, the response wouldn’t have been as bad. There is nothing about this show that makes it a Scooby doo show and Mindy really needs to do some therapy/self love in terms of how she views herself as an American-Indian woman cuz this self hatred comes out in ALL her work

[@briannalee1998]

Exactly!

[@spaghettisauce1104]

I doubt anyone would have watched it if they didn't throw the Scooby Doo name on it. Even excusing the fact that it's Scooby Doo the show is just unfunny and boring. It's like they got a room of writers who where either trying way to hard or not at all.

[@zaharabliss106]

My biggest gripe is that Velma isn't even that smart. Norville spoon feeds her the information and she jumped to stupid conclusions again and again (not that she needs to solve any big mystery just something to establish that she's actually a good mystery solver). Also wtf was Daphne and Velma it happened out of no where and I may not even have been that mad if they spent the time setting it up at least!! I have no words for Norville and Fred because that's not Shaggy and That's not Fred not that Daphne's right either. Also what was the need to slander the Mystery Machine istg this show was written and they editted it by slapping Scooby Doo on top of it without doing anything meaningful

[@Set666Abominae]

I like the character redesigns. They’re sufficiently loyal to the originals so it’s obvious who is who, but clearly pushing out in a unique direction. Shaggy is the exception in terms of his clothes being pretty much identical to the original, but that makes a lot of sense because he was so laid back and wore suitably plain, comfortable and no-effort garb; it actually makes sense they *wouldn’t* change him, compared to the others. If they ever did a joke of a character opening their wardrobe for us to see 10 identical outfits, it would work for Shaggy.

[@zilesis1]

they kida messed up everything about Shaggy's design except the clothes' colours. in the original everything about the character design told us about his personality. the clothes were baggy, the shoulders were slightly slumped forward, the hair was unkempt with a barely present beard. just by looking at the character you could tell he was not confident, not very physically strong, unconcerned about appearances, with a generally relaxed attitude the new one has no personality in his design. looking at the character image without any context for the show i'm not sure what you could really say about him same goes for the other designs tbh. the originals all had "default poses" with loads of personality, their clothes were more than just colours, they told their own stories in the new one, aside from maybe Fred, you cant't really tell anything from the designs. without the 60+ years of knowing what the characters are supposed to act like, you couldn't tell anything about them from how they look

[@literallyvergil1686]

The only noticable thing they redesigned was their fucking race lmao, I find it staggeringly funny shaggy has such an obvious difference in his design and you choose to focus on his clothes

[@Set666Abominae]

@@literallyvergil1686 because the characters wear almost *exactly* the same fucking clothes in every iteration of SD? It was nice to see slight changes that give their outfits something of a difference to previous shows. The challenge from the video was to find something positive about the show, and there you go, that’s my contribution. I have absolutely nothing against changing their race/ethnicity, because (shock and horror) this is fiction and reimaginings of characters are possible + diversity in media actually fucking matters. They massacred the personalities of each character, but that’s got nothing to do with a change in race/ethnicity.

[@literallyvergil1686]

@@Set666Abominae if they changed black panther into a white guy I have no doubt you probably would have a meltdown about it, you're only find with it because they're white characters getting race swapped, if you want diversity In media make your own goddamn character rather than Leeching off of white ones, and I am not white

[@darkpinkgirl6684]

@@Set666Abominae "diversity in media actually fucking matters" yeah but (shock and horror) you can have diversity in media without changing the race of characters that have been extremely well-known as a certain race for over 50 years this doesn't even help diversity. these aren't original characters. they're the Scooby Gang, and the vast majority of people are still going to see the gang as their original races because that's just the result of having extremely iconic character designs. why do you think Invincible and The Boys got away with race-swapping and full on gender-swapping characters from their source materials? because the designs of their characters aren't even close to being as iconic as the Scooby Gang's character designs i would've loved racially diverse characters that were just fans of the original gang or something. because in all honesty, that would be very cool. but these are just "the race-swapped version of the gang from that show that butchered their characters". so the "more diversity" argument doesn't even make sense i'm not even pissed off about the race-swapping. i just think it's a little dumb and pointless. because as you said, this is fiction and there can be multiple re-imaginings of a character, but re-imaginings are actually supposed to be _interesting_ or they're supposed to _explore_ a side of a pre-existing characters that the original show didn't before. THEN that would've been a good reason for race-swaps. but the creators _don't_ have a reason to change the character's races in this show. well, apart from Velma, who is literally just acting as the creator's self insert. that just makes the whole situation even more sour

[@DoctorKabanov]

Velma not cursing only to later say “Zoinkers! What the f*ck” is literally better writing then entirety of the show😂😅😢

[@filmingwithyazz4185]

This is an era of recreating classic shows with a dark tone which isn't the problem. It just seems like they shift the entire concept completely and butcher it with politics.

[@KaiDecadence]

The sad thing is that Scooby Doo has already dabbled with dark one and it worked. Scooby Doo on Zombie Island did this and the whole series of 2011's Mystery Inc. did as well and they both totally nailed the darker tone they were going for. The blueprints were already there, the only thing missing was adult specific mature writing.

[@DodgeDart]

Yeah agree race swapping is political.

[@matthewmazzatto8003]

@@KaiDecadence The problem is that most writers still don't realize that an adult cartoon doesn't have to be a raunchy comedy. An R-rated horror version of Scooby Doo could work well, but the main 5 characters still need to be likable and contribute to the overall goal. Fred, Daphne, Velma, and Shaggy/Scooby all have different skill sets that make each of them valuable to the group.

[@CatBxtchNami]

@@DodgeDart Judging by your other comments, this one is probably sarcastic.

[@KaiDecadence]

@@matthewmazzatto8003 Oh for sure, I'm not saying that in adult comedy, the characters have to be unlikable because this show is a good example of how awful it can be to watch when you do that. The Scooby gang would be so easy to mature while still making them feel like themselves which is what makes this even more cumbersome to see. Again, just take what they did with Zombie Island where the gang was clearly in their early 20s and leading maturer lives.

[@articwolfgirlwolfgirl5617]

I won't watch a mature series without a dog saying "ruh roh raggy, we're gonna rucking die"

[@Joel-cc8kx]

"Zoinkers... what the fuck" genuinely made me laugh so much lol

[@alieneko_nyo]

Same lol

[@kenquartz1813]

It’s basically different kids just dressed as the Scooby gang with no correlation with their original personalities

[@bbexpress]

I remember Mindy had an interview with a talk show host where she said she kissed a guy quickly randomly bc she thought he was hot. That is unacceptable.

[@zoobatzjr371]

See, this isn't even the first time there has been a Scooby-Doo show that's been dark. Mystery Incorporated was pretty dark in it's premise, but it went out of it's way to define who each character was too the point that it's basically the gold standard of the franchise. Shaggy and Scooby are nerdy goofballs who love to eat and scare fairly easy, but are quite smart in their own right and useful to the team. Daphne actually is helpful and quite capable of defending herself from the people in costumes. Like she kicks ass and takes names in Mystery Incorporated. Velma is the smart one but also very snarky and also probably bisexual, except it's done so naturally that you hardly notice. Despite her sarcasm she is a great friend to the entirety of the cast and probably part of the reason Fred's traps work so well. Fred's a complete dork who loves to make traps, has weird but interesting passions, and completely misses all of Daphne's hints. He figures it out eventually though so that's good. The new show feels like a full blown murder attempt of everything that has been established about the characters thus far.

[@rebeccamiller9310]

I love that Fred literally has it only start to click when Daphne sings Trapped in Love with the Hex Girls

[@ladynoname3621]

@@rebeccamiller9310 Hex Girls music always slays

[@rebeccamiller9310]

@@ladynoname3621 yes it does!

[@MarnieWithSnakes]

I haven’t watched it yet but it sucks seeing the lost potential for a really cool adult Scooby-Doo adaptation

[@DodgeDart]

We still have XHamster’s interpretation of Scooby-Doo so it's not all bad.

[@SubjectSigma18]

@@DodgeDart I see what you did there

[@ZackFireX]

Here’s something I actually like about this show: the backgrounds look really nice, for how basic the show’s premise and location are. It’s just unfortunate that these background artists were utterly wasted on a project with no potential.

[@spookeekaykay]

I haven't seen this show but from what you have shown, I think I'm going to rewatch the Movies & Mystery Incorporated. I will also note that the difference between Bojack & Velma is not only the humor but as well as the voice acting, Mindy just sounds bored and with Will Arnett he actually sounds like he wants to be there.

[@planettes]

I didn't know Will Arnet plays Bojack.. Now I know what series I want to watch next. Thx!

[@pixazelz]

You cant compare a masterpiece like bojack to a pile of Garbage like velma lol

[@spookeekaykay]

@@planettes There's a lot of great voice talent in the series, emotion, & overall just a great time. Definitely worth watching

[@nikkie5496]

tbh i don’t care about the race swapping at all but what i hate the most is how unlikable the characters are. like personally i can forgive a weak story if the characters are charming and likable enough, but everyone comes off as so cynical and rude. why do they even hang out with each other? it’s so obvious they can’t stand each other 😭 Fred also got it really bad. he went from the kind leader of the group to a spoiled narcissistic trust fund kid, which isn’t Fred!!! if they were meant to be unlikable and terrible people like its always sunny or something i’d get it!! but they’re clearly meant to be seen as charming and they really aren’t

[@Broomer52]

As far as I can say about race swapping in this. At least they didn’t make the red head black for once, they still erased a group of people by making the red head Asian but they didn’t go the obvious route. Why does Hollywood hate Gingers?

[@_Nyxus_]

There's a lot of issues with the race swapping imo. It's like..if I made a specific character, I would want that character to remain the way I originally chose to make it. If my character is white, then they should stay white. If the character is black, then they should stay black (I absolutely love the idea behind the Spiderman series where there's a bunch of different versions of him because while the hero is the same, the character behind the mask is unique). I don't have an issue with representation in a series, I fully support it. But the way they do it is cheap and lazy. Other races deserve their own stories to empower them, not ones that were already created. For example, there was a deaf, darker skinned mermaid in the Little Mermaid show back in the day and it would have been incredible for a series to follow someone like that, or be in the same universe as Ariel, rather than Ariel herself changing. Or taking the route of Black Panther and Wakanda! By changing the skin tone of characters that have been around for decades, it puts more importance on skin tone and gives it more attention, rather than being represented the way it should be. It's hard to explain it in a way that doesn't come across as racist 🤔I'm not trying to be, but I do believe characters should be able to be who their creators originally designed them to be AND have proper representation for all races equally, rather than having a skin tone battle and the constant disappointment of that being the only kind of "effort" a company gives to minorities.

[@nikkie5496]

@@_Nyxus_ oh ya i fully agree that they should’ve made new characters for a new, better story instead of changing existing ones but at the same time i’ve seen it so much that it doesn’t annoy me anymore

[@realestsienna]

@@_Nyxus_ don’t see why anyone really cares about the ariel thing, she’s a mermaid. a fictional creature, it’s not that big of a deal imo. but i do get your point and i agree with all you said before the ariel part.

[@_Nyxus_]

@@realestsienna With the Ariel thing it goes with what I said. Ariel, as her original design, wasn't black. This is looking at it purely from an art/character design perspective, not a racial thing. Mulan was Chinese, thus if they made her any other skin tone, I feel like it goes against the original character's design. I, personally, wouldn't like it if I designed a character with grey skin and someone took them and made them purple. If we look at company production issue, skin tone changes are the cheapest and simplest way to "add representation." Companies cop out of things like this all the time in the same way and it's not fair to the minorities. Same thing with job hunting. A lot of companies will hire a minimum number of poc to claim "equality" or "diversity" when in reality they could do far better. Why not make an entirely original film with more poc mermaids? Because "Ariel" will already get them attention and they don't really have to come up with an entirely new plot for it. Strange World had a ton of diversity and its own plot, so they've shown they can do this, yet they didn't even advertise for it.

[@sadfishboy7003]

There was one joke that got a laugh out of me. When Daphne was trying to threaten Velma, someone girl kept flushing the toilet while Daphne was talking.

[@walak6832]

I keep saying that, but im sure they were just going for a "riverdale aware of itself" these characters make me feel rage, they destroyed our favorite crew. And bruuuh the humor is so bad , and they commenting on everything trying to be aware is just so weird. This show should have been done with different characters for real, ESPECIALLY IF WE DONT EVEN GET SCOOBY!! 🤦‍♂️😂 your video was very interesting btw, loved it 👌

[@fd502]

I thought Riverdale was aware of itself.

[@kylie7780]

It feels like a (bad) fanfic that was already written. Then they were given the Scooby Doo IP and simply changed their OCs names to the Gangs.

[@elpsykoongro5379]

"Evil cannot create It can only corrupt what good has created" -jrr Tolkien

[@MLBlue30]

Thats just 4chan.

[@ladynoname3621]

That is just Netflix 💅✨️

[@KeijiMaeda86]

Read a different book

[@elpsykoongro5379]

@@KeijiMaeda86 schizophrenic spotted

[@NitroNinja324]

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[@paytonkraft7564]

I knew when I first saw the trailer pop up on youtube, they've gone and ruined another classic for the sake of "equality".

[@briankaslewicz6130]

The commutative property doesn't work in the entertainment industry. "Mindy Kaling is Velma" & "Velma is Mindy Kaling" are two vastly different statements, and the show took the second route.

[@kirshak7007]

I would say they asked an AI to write the script for them, but at this point i'm pretty sure they were too lazy to install the AI and just asked the first kid on the street to write the whole season for them

[@usrnewxnew5227]

Hey! Don't disrespect the kid like that! I'm sure he can write a better show than whatever this unholy excrement is.

[@ZuraJura]

Hey, at least if a kid does it. It will be goofy funny not this abomination

[@cali295]

aaron popping off with the solo content :) very excited to see what you've got in the works man

[@emackenzie]

5:20 from what I heard this was initially a stand-alone that they slapped The Gang onto. At least if it was its own thing it would have faded into obscurity, but now it's attached to such an iconic ip that it's going to be remembered forever

[@GestaIter]

Yeah this 100% looks like a stand-alone series that wasn’t originally going to be greenlit, so they just stuck some well-known characters to get past the bar.

[@jayroc62]

How in the hell is Scooby not in this show…He’s a foil for so many interactions between the characters. The buddy comedy element of Shaggy and Scooby is just…missing entirely.

[@alfiejob6546]

One reason I've heard is that the producers didn't want Scooby to be associated with the show as it was going to be more "edgy" as they thought it might ruin his more family-friendly image. I still think it's stupid though because we've already had a show which had a more darker tone, "Mystery Incorporated".

[@usinu9771]

This was a huge, waste of money, time, and animator’s talent. I’m glad Scooby Doo wasn’t in it, they would have done him so dirty. I seriously hope it fails, and they don’t make any more of this abomination.

[@rjai5003]

I’m positive that the writers were actively trying to make people mad so they’d hate-watch the show

[@SebastianDreams]

"Scooby Doo has never had a deep, complex story." *Scooby Doo mystery incorporated has entered the chat*

[@pariselly]

LOVED your commentary on what you had to say about this Aaron! Soo many good points made and hilarious at the same time. You’re truly a gem. Keep this up!! ❤

[@gigigalaxy1395]

Velma is so mean-spirited I almost miss the end of the original show when an old man would rip off a rubber make and yell, “You kids!” (fist waving optional)

[@polaroized]

i watched the trailer and didnt wanna watch the show bc of how bad the trailer was. so i gotta thank you for suffering through it and delivering a good analysis on the pilot!

[@kegan5984]

"Zoinkers, what the fuck" got me dying 💀

[@VinnieSajan]

I wanted to say this somewhere. You could name this show something completely different and the characters completely different names and no one would even believe that this is Scooby Doo if you told them. In fact, they would be probably call it a rip off. Also Aaron! This is the first video I've seen from you my man. Great job! I enjoyed listening to all the points you made.

[@bubbles000]

I’m still baffled they aged the characters down to make it more adult :/

[@cassiopiabean]

As someone who absolutely adores Velma and looks like her, I absolutely HATE this show. I am extremely biased when it comes to things I like and I don't even like this fucking show that how bad it is

[@ftthecartoon]

The freaking sound clip of Shaggy saying "A Ham Sandwich" was funnier than the jokes in the show

[@Platypus_Gaming_1]

To quote my friend from 2019 after Avengers: Endgame, "Oh boy, I can't wait for the shitty reboots and spinoffs that try to capitalize on the popularity on an ip without understanding what makes said ip appealing in the first place" man he really was ahead of his time.

[@RyanReta97]

Your "Zoinkers, what the fuck" was funnier than anything I believe this show might do lmao

[@nini.6137]

i didn’t even watch the episode and i don’t think i’ll plan too😭 but from what your saying, velma could’ve been a good show. velma a smart kinda shy girl trying to solve a murder in her school. i think having the gang dislike each other in beginning would be cool and then having them get more involved with the case and becoming closer. and along the way velma starts to have more confidence in herself while trying to deal with her mothers disappearance. i don’t know why they made her like this when in any other iteration of Scooby doo, she is never like this. i don’t think this show will get a second season based off the reviews i’ve seen so far on it.

[@DodgeDart]

It is a good show. The host of this channel just has a bad understanding of it. You should form your own opinions and at least watch one episode for yourself.

[@hinglemccringleberry9389]

@@DodgeDart you, my friend, have an EXTREMELY unpopular opinion. I've watched the episodes and you are wrong on all counts. it's terrible

[@YukiColburn]

@@hinglemccringleberry9389 That Dodge Dart person has been posting those kinds of comments everywhere here, they're just baiting. Just go and read their KZbin bio, it's a troll account.

[@chevy.preto.]

O show apenas começou querida

[@mr.perezident9381]

So basically it’s like any other adult animated show, completely focused on being meta and subversive, and instead of actually trying to be different enough to justify its existence, just slapping a recognize-able celebrity and IP on, to get people to watch at all. And they didn’t even have the decency to make her a lesbian. The bar is in hell.

[@AkaE5]

8:19 - There is something I really liked about the pilot: that it ended.

[@Durahan13]

I liked that the pilot episode had the option to be turned off within five minutes.

[@brayngames7423]

7:10 “We aren’t stupid stop insulting our intelligence” and to that I’d say it’s more like and insult to the actual show this just feels wrong this isn’t even scooby doo anymore it’s just some animated version of a NETFLIX SHOW

[@just_another_idiot_0]

It's like they tried to turn it into euphoria 💀

[@davidbernal6881]

Or Riverdale.

[@catherineward3940]

Love this video so much Aaron great content and the Bojack horseman mention!!

[@_Bo_Stardust_]

As a representative of the people that had a crush on Fred when the live action movies came out, I am appalled by this woman's treatment of him.

[@Pillarofcreation1]

Out of context, the thing about Velma having hallucinations because she's repressing thoughts about finding her mother sounds really interesting. I also like how the hallucinations look. I have not watched the show.

[@rustyAF]

I watched it and also thought that was very cool. Unfortunately, they kind of solve that in the first episode. There is a slim chance that could lead to real positive growth for the way Velma is written but it’s a wait and see. So far, it seems like they’re going for a theme will all the characters disliking each other.

[@alexlaniel9549]

I also liked the hallucination scenes. The art style is very similar to Mystery Inc.

[@EggyAlvarado]

Haha thought the video was genius. And the old man voice change was spot on. Ohhh and I thought the whole zoinkers wtf. I laughed out loud for that one. Good vid bud

[@HoundsBane]

Great review! Would love to see more video reviews in this format! The way the show is getting universally panned is pretty staggering. Based on what reviewers & what my friends are saying I don’t think I’ll be checking out the show.

[@DodgeDart]

It is a good show actually. Given the t a chance form your own opinions

[@HoundsBane]

@@DodgeDart I wasn’t interested in watching it to begin with. I wasn’t expecting it to be anything to write home about. The hatred & disgust for it seem to be the only noteworthy thing about it now. Based the clips I’ve seen it’s not for me.

[@rosesharon1257]

very excited to see more from you on this channel. i love aaron and jo to laugh, but with this, you're so good at commentary and explaining your thoughts and opinions. cant wait to see more!

[@dash5573]

Aaron and Jo has been my main yt channel to watch lately and I’m just now realizing that I probably found you guys because I clicked on this video when it came out a few months ago. Now I’m actually gonna watch it, not sure why u didn’t last time.

[@luixdi8885]

Mistery Inc. Had a great plot and a very interesting "adult" take, every character had their great personalities and I loooved it Wish they just rebooted it and continued it

[@abbyparish7593]

Well thank you I’ve been thinking about watching this show. Thanks for letting me know what this is really about. Why would they do this?

[@DodgeDart]

His take is bad. The show is good. You should give it a chance and form your own opinions on it.

[@elly1433]

@@DodgeDart lmfao chill dude, you're going through the comments section like a maniac, go watch a different video

[@jayharv285]

@@DodgeDart bud the show isn't good whatsoever. The writing is god awful. The swearing is so forced and the jokes are just shit. Our main character is just unlikeable as hell

[@kyerannisbet8895]

@@DodgeDart Mindy's not going to sleep with you, chump. Deal with our facts or get lost

[@ma.2089]

@@DodgeDart I agree ppl should form their own opinions. I once trusted a reviewer and they spread a ton of misinformation about a show I wasn’t too sure on. Went back to watch it later, properly, and found out they basically lied and/or complained about “plot holes” cuz they didn’t answer questions immediately. But the show kinda sucks.

[@MidnightBreezey]

"Let's take 4 beloved characters and change literally everything about them except their names and silhouettes. I'm sure fans will love it."

[@mainstreetsaint36]

This wasn't character assassination, this was mob beating in an alley. Baseball bats, chains, 2x4s, everything.

[@jimberjamber8540]

Well said. My mouth was hanging open in shock after the first line of the show and it stayed open. I've never been this annoyed at a show. No way in hell am I watching the rest, I'll just wait for your videos lol.

[@Dragonblaster1]

I was born in 1962 in south-east UK. The very first TV program I ever saw on a colour TV was Scooby-Doo, and my first comment was “Hey, Scooby’s _orange!_ ”