Veronica Dare's TERRIBLE Plan (Halo 3 ODST)

[@AscendHyperion]

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[@syntrick2815]

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[@AscendHyperion]

Your dog is wearing an Ascend Hyperion sweater? Lol

[@syntrick2815]

@@AscendHyperion We tried, but she wasn't a fan; She'll steal it after I take it off or I'll cover her up with it as a blanket.

[@avionprime8757]

I couldn't talk back to Dare, I don't dare to question anyone who can weaponize their own chin.

[@foxeye245]

I also remember her blaming Buck for how poorly her mission went once they finally met up again, despite him and the rookie being the only real reasons why it was even successful.

[@kingoftheflood94]

Dare was like "so you shoot these important aliens that are a part of the covenant, our enemy, even though nobody told you they were important? Damn, you're and idiot"

[@fanamatakecick97]

@@kingoftheflood94 “You haven’t been killing them, have you?” “No… well maybe one or… two” “Nice going” “How was i supposed to know” If you notice, she drops it at that point. Buck also calls her out for there being no mission and dropping off the grid before being shut up by a kiss. Needless to say, give Dare the benefit of the doubt, she works for ONI. They probably held her to a strict protocol and threw her in last minute, you know how ONI is

[@scottgrasser9475]

​@@fanamatakecick97 you know how ONI is stupid i guess?? that kind of black ops works on a need to know basis...and your ODST commandos NEED to know what to shoot and what to capture there is zero strategic gain for ONI by withholding the mission parameters from the people doing the mission also cloak and dagger branches of military do not really take presidence in wars the CIA does not tell the army what to do...its the other way around so ONI pulling men off a mission to capture a third of the enemy leadership to gather some intel....is so mind mindbogglingly stupid and not telling the men the mission reduced the odds of the mission working...to dam near zero

[@AntiCaesarReal]

Yeah but we got the best boy Vergil so it was ok

[@thomasboland540]

Utter foolishness, Agent Dare Wait... Wrong franchise

[@mochalavender9398]

Explain the plot of this game badly: Mates go out for a night out in the town, but one of them ruins everything by bringing his ex-girlfriend along.

[@zionleach3001]

That... Actually makes sense. Don't forget the new guy who gets lost and fights his way through the city.

[@Commander_Shepard.]

@@zionleach3001 The new guy goes through the worst hazing in world history.

[@deltahalo241]

Imagine if some of the squad hadn't adjusted their trajectory because they still thought the target was the carrier

[@tylerherr4288]

no matter what their target was there just wasnt enough time to drop from space and hit the target before the slipspace jump at most their landing sites would of been different or they might of not even survived it

[@spiderz5145]

What happened to the other ODSTs that weren’t with the squad in game? Did they all die? We see no corpses.

[@tylerherr4288]

@@spiderz5145 ive wondered that myself and thinking it through i think when odsts drop feet first into hell they drop empty pods alongside them more targets means less chance of artillery hitting a team member

[@yapflipthegrunt4687]

@@tylerherr4288 All the other ODSTs went for the carrier and landed in the ocean. So Dare’s plan indirectly saved Alpha-9.

[@tylerherr4288]

@@yapflipthegrunt4687 wheres that stated? not denying that is what happened just want to read up on it

[@jovaliantproductions]

Okay I was skeptical coming into this video, but that skit made a compelling point. Also if you think about it, Dare giving the mission plan can go both ways for the story. Some could argue that it would be detrimental to the mystery part of the story or even the story itself, but at the same time you can argue that it would give the story more of a coherent plot and rather than each member fending for themselves after drop they're more focused on finding each other and finding a way into the city's infrastructure.

[@EthanRom]

@@robianknight4001 then why commandeer the squad if you didn't need them in the first place?

[@meltyberryashley]

@Ubermus Prime It could’ve been one of those things where ONI told her she had to have a squad and couldn’t do the mission alone. (Even then why would she choose her ex’s squad?) But if she wasn’t required to have a squad then yeah, she should’ve done the mission on her own.

[@sombramemer1230]

I always thought Dare didn't tell them the plan because she knew how dangerous it was and didn't want Buck to get killed. So she went in alone.

[@AscendHyperion]

The only reason Buck was involved in the first place was because she went out of her way to commandeer him and his squad. Too late to pull out on that choice now haha

[@sombramemer1230]

@@AscendHyperion Well whats more dangerous to be on a ship full of covenant where a Prophet is on board or a city with a large amount of people and covenant in it? Dare probably pulled him out of that mission and didn't tell him about the new mission in hopes he would think its just to evac the city allowing him and his team to leave with the people of city.

[@Terrince_Tate]

Dare was an idiot that didn't care or think about the repercussions. She acted like just because she was in charge she didn't have to listen. Veronica Dare was a trash character. Buck was being a simp the whole game lol.

[@19thunderchild]

@@Terrince_Tate You wanna talk about it, champ?

[@fanamatakecick97]

@@Terrince_Tate One acronym: ONI

[@nkosig4995]

It's part of onis theme. Oni is suppose to parrelel the cia during the cold war. Completely egotistical and incompetent.

[@blueorchid1313]

Except ONI is competent, most of the time

[@fanamatakecick97]

@@blueorchid1313 Then why would they try to kill ‘Rtas when that would jeopardize the Human-Sangheili alliance?

[@blueorchid1313]

@@fanamatakecick97 because they are trying to further humanity, by any means necessary

[@fanamatakecick97]

@@blueorchid1313 How exactly would assassinating a crucial ally be furthering humanity?

[@blueorchid1313]

@@fanamatakecick97 eliminating a potential threat

[@lordelectron6591]

Oni is paid by covenant to sabotage humanity's survival.

[@JohnWright-hi9mb]

Idk bout that. ONI did some fucked up stuff but it almost always had humanity's survival in mind.

[@yapflipthegrunt4687]

Where'd you get that tinfoil hat fitted? Because it's on real tight.

[@says_csr]

@@yapflipthegrunt4687 reach was an inside job wake up sheep

[@yapflipthegrunt4687]

@@says_csr It wasn’t an inside job, read the fall of reach. The Covies attached a slipspace probe to the PoA.

[@spiderz5145]

@@yapflipthegrunt4687 I think he was joking.

[@Foxster_13]

Wait.... I've been a halo fan since Halo 3 and I've just realised that The rookie never actually met Dare before the launch, so he probably didn't even realise that it was Dare when you find her in Data Hive. Also, he gets woken up by Romeo in his pod and immediately is prepped for launch, then seeing Dare and Buck show up not even knowing who she was. Damn.... Rookie is Damn lucky to have survived. For all he knew, it could have been a trap to round up surviving humans.

[@Windjammer19]

Maybe. Rookie saw everything Virgil saw, so he could have pieced Dare together before meeting her.

[@ToaDrakua]

To be fair, he did see her in the view screens of his pod _during_ the drop, so he at least had some idea of what she looked and sounded like.

[@stardust_2339]

@@ToaDrakua Found her helmet too.

[@klaykid117]

From reading the books ONI's biggest problem seems to be ego and pride. They've become sort of an internal bad guy in the Halo Universe for UNSC personnel.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

4:02 Well we know Halo leaders aren't great with directions.

[@drunkendevil6960]

But Johnson had style. And I mean, who doesn't like Johnson.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

@@drunkendevil6960 I was referencing Keyes and her "To war." line in Halo 3 Crow's Nest. I always laugh when I hear Halo Canon respond to that with "I need an actual Rally Point." in one of his Halo 3 playthroughs.

[@drunkendevil6960]

@@Jedi_Spartan True that.

[@delta-a17]

As soon as I heard "rally point," I got the reference lol

[@EMoney0527]

But seriously, where is war?

[@FerranCz]

"Seconds of honest comunication can save you a lot of trouble and might even save you from a hell of a night" Loved that, comunication is the key for any relationship's success.

[@drunkendevil6960]

Like it happens almost always with any last minute additions, or decisions.... They go wrong...

[@derekk.2263]

I agree with all of this. The ODST story has always rubbed me the wrong way, the characters do not seem like professional military, they seem like union factory workers going to a football game. Their operation is terribly planned, To me what makes the least sense about ODST is the Rookie's core objective of tracking down his squad. The only interaction he has with them before they drop is being bullied by them. They don't like him, as shown by the fact that they do not look for or even mention him after dropping. The only reason he ever even finds them is because they come back to the city for DARE, not for him! If Buck hadn't wanted pussy, the rookie would have been left behind. His objective should be to just escape the city alive, avoid the Covenant, and link back up with anyone from the UNSC. He can actually help the war effort that way, farting around looking for 5 guys who he can't be sure are even alive is the same as going AWOL.

[@zionleach3001]

That's actually kinda true. He gets brought up once and I think Romeo was the only one trying to mess with him.

[@ghastlyanarchy1720]

got him looking for 5 guys as if he's starving for a sandwich.

[@meltyberryashley]

I used to Veronica a lot when the game first came out, and now after hearing this and the points made, it does make a lot of sense. Had she given at least a small explanation of the things that weren’t classified about the mission, things would’ve been different. I wouldn’t say this was entirely her fault though, she works for ONI, and the fact that they made the mission classified kinda points the arrow more in their direction more than hers. I’d say it’s not entirely her fault, but at the same time she’s not entirely out of the blame? She could’ve done something, heck, she could’ve gone behind ONI’s back and actually tell them the mission, something like that would’ve been interesting. I don’t know, I just felt that her character had so much potential but she fell short because we know absolutely nothing about her aside from her relationship with Buck. It would’ve been nice if we could’ve actually gotten a character arc for her in the game, and have a moment where we played as her in the campaign. We could’ve learned so much more about her and why she can’t talk about anything to the team. If we had that, she would’ve been redeemed I think. If she ever makes a return in the franchise, hopefully we’ll get to learn more about her.

[@ramblingrenegade6346]

I mean, it might be doomed to fail but if Dare hadn't commandeered Buck's team they'd have all probably drowned when the ship made the slipspace jump

[@gartcw9955]

I mean, looking at Buck’s and Alpha 9’s service records, they’re the best squad she could have picked. Yes, Dare should have clued them in, but she’s the Halo equivalent of the CIA. She’s supposed to be hush hush about her real mission. But I do agree she should have at least let Buck know before drop.

[@JohnWright-hi9mb]

It was one hell of a night

[@demargoodman1756]

"One guy brings his ex, she ruins everything" -Installation 00

[@xxcaptninjaxx4301]

Dare: omg go my find ex. Buck: really.

[@machina5]

What?

[@dewittbourchier7169]

She's actually pretty chill for a spook - both in universe and in our own universe. They're not ONI troops and they're not Special Forces. They are the equivalent of WWII paratroopers. Volunteers yes - but volunteers who in peacetime would be grunt regulars. Her orders from above were probably to tell them nothing and also given how far fetched the plan was she probably figured - not incorrectly given their reactions to the engineer, that this long shot cloak and dagger plan was absolutely ridiculous and they would not disruptively question it if they are already far into the mission. Edit: Also she chooses Buck because yeah they have a history but she clearly trusts him and as far as ODSTs go from whatever is left at that point she wants someone she can trust. It is also implied throughout the game that first the disruption from the blast means communications are not great. She also would not want to yell instructions at him while he is in a firefight, and thereafter the Covenant are jamming communications. By the time you find her about 10 to 12 hours after the drop she's clearly been having a really bad time doing escape and evasion with even less firepower than you and unable to raise anyone.

[@MrBucket9158]

Great video! Also thanks for letting me be in the skit!

[@Lt_Crunch236]

Honestly it never looked like they were gonna hit the carrier even before the trajectory change. Lol.

[@o_o-037]

Dare literally bailed 2 minutes after landing before Buck could reach her pod without telling him where she was heading or what the mission was. Then in the elevator scene, she punched Buck for *"Abandoning the mission"* & I'm like; Bitch, WTF are you talking about? You ditched the party not 5 minutes after landing, kept your mouth shut about the task at hand, and you have the audacity to accuse Buck of abandoning the mission, the mission YOU Kept secret to yourself when you could've told them before the drop, or at least waited for Buck in your pod?

[@zaymac117]

Yeah Dare is such a hypocritical and ungrateful bitch who literally got her troopers killed after the slip space emp knocked them out of the sky and blamed it on Buck. But yeah ODST is a good game but the story is mediocre and Dare is truly one of the worst parts of this game and she only appeared in one game.

[@GrumpyElite]

300 IQ Gamer Strat

[@anjaneyasreetrout2444]

Great video. Suggested topic for your next video: *Returning the bomb in Halo 2.* This isn't a joke.

[@azzythechristianfurry]

Those comments about Alpha Nine being just some “random rag tag team” aren’t entirely accurate. Buck was the best of the best, as far as non augmented humans go. If he was any better, he’d be a Spartan (and then he became a Spartan) Dutch and Mickey were the rare humans who had interactions with forerunner AI. Rookie was the only survivor of a massive FUBAR operation on New Jerusalem. And Romeo went around committing several violations to UNSC code, but he was so good that they let it slide (after transferring him out of the units with women)

[@kingoftheflood94]

I know I'm late, but I'm so damn glad i found this video, i thought i was crazy for not liking dare in this game, every other video i see talking about ODST, they always complain about the gameplay and say NOTHING about Dare, yet she is literally the worst thing for me in the enitre game, "buck help me escort this covenant that is suddenly very important, wait you shoot them?? Even though nobody ever told you they were important?? How dare you!" "How dare you disobey the orders i didnt give you" "oh so you didnt have time in the middle of 3 firefights to tell me there were covenant moving towards the site that all the covenant are moving towards that i somehow know about even though it didnt exist until after i went underground and stopped talking to everyone? How dare you" Actually the more i write this, the more plot holes i see in here and the more i hate her

[@19thunderchild]

I see, and tell me about your mother.

[@byron2FZ]

I guess that's the thing. A story needs drama and that's the main source, honestly it's not even a Dare thing, it's an ONI thing. It's pretty much their theme through the whole series and expanded works. This does give me the vibes that were it a male characters people wouldn't blink an eye at it, but I can't think of a close enough male comparison to dare atm.

[@lonelystarboy]

Makes sence to meee ...

[@Eramidas]

Sense*

[@zalrohglekgolo6149]

Originally I thought she was supposed to go to the alpha sight to get the superintendent, but there's a contradictory piece of information. During uplift reserve you find out the seargent who was in direct contact with ONI knew about the mission to "snag a tier 1 asset" at the landing sight of the Carrier (BTW, the platform for the carrier's gravlift is not in a place where we see the carrier in Halo 2, the carrier doesn't even need a platform for it's gravlift and the platform is too small for the circumference of the lift) so either Dare was going to get a different Engineer and diverted to get virgil, or the tier 1 asset the Sgt. Mentioned is a fluke. ODST is full of major story inconveniences because it's not a very good game below the surface of it's characters sounding and looking cool, and because it was actually just the testing bed for ideas in reach.

[@SogenOkami]

Okay so the thing is Dare just grabbing a bunch of random dudes for a mission and giving no details about the mission is actually a thing that happens IRL. A good example is towards the end of Vietnam, a ship was stolen so a bunch of random marines training in Japan were shipped over and told to rescue some people with no intel as to whether or not the shipping crew were even still on the island and what kind of enemy resistance they'd face. They landed with three helicopters on two beaches thinking they were gonna fight like 10 guys but plot twist it was more like 100... time two. Also Buck at least has some idea and he commands the squad and even modifies their loadouts for them. It's not important for the squad to know what they're doing, only that they know how to use a shooty shooty bang bang. Buck, the senior leader, and Dare the advisor, do know. It should also be noted that the assumption for ODST and Halo 2 was this was an invasion force, which is why everyone was caught off guard when the ship left. Should also be noted that Mickey and Dutch probably would've still blown up the Oni site because if the data was obtained by enemy hands, you'd have to leave or defend every referenced location, change every operational frequency, scrap literally all of your plans, etc. It sounds really stupid but none of this is unrealistic. It's not the norm, but it's not unrealistic.

[@jorgejustin461]

Office of Naval Intelligence is going to Office of Naval Intelligence

[@oklahomaroserock6904]

Bro your revreation of the opening scene earned you my sub XD that was hilarious, Ive thought the EXACT same thing.

[@unsc2060]

What makes it worse is that they could have still had the mission briefed to them in that manner and the story wouldn't have to change much. Like... ffs all the strife they went through would have happened regardless. The CAS ship would have still scattered them all, they still would have had to deal with the problems each of them ran into at the sight of their landing zone. Reminded of Saving Private Ryan. Yeah the mission is simple: Save Private Ryan. It's the frigging title! But look how much extra BS nonsense they had to go through to accomplish their goal. Or maybe a less fictionalized event. Osama Bin Laden's assassination conducted by the closest thing we have to ODSTs irl. Simple mission and I doubt none of them expected to have their helicopter crash in the way it did. Granted they did get a briefing albeit last minute and even still they had to capitulate to all sorts of shenanigans and escapades. Swinging back to ODST yeah they probably still would have had to deal with a lot of nonsense sidetrack regardless of whether or not they would have been briefed, though perhaps not as much.

[@fanamatakecick97]

I would say that Dare was bound by ONI protocol, and we know how ONI likes to be illogical for the hell of it

[@kassarc16]

If Regret hadn't scuttled their landing, the squad probably could have met up in short order. Even if Dare was still tight-lipped about the details, they probably could have gone on mission well enough from there. As it was, she demonstrated terrible leadership and they were lucky to all make it out alive, let alone with the success they did.

[@Greasy__Bear]

Im glad someone else noticed. The story writers even tried to make the ODSTs look stupid for helping the marines while trying to find eachother.

[@ximbabwe0228]

We should probably wake that guy up 😅

[@justicetaylor3050]

So, it was basically a wrighter's lazy method of giving each ODST thier own adventures and giving the player a mystery to solve. Eh, still a fun game.

[@kdplay2201]

Subscribed! Love your channel, keep it up👏🏼

[@thomasbachmeier8055]

never thought of it this way, never really asked this question before either

[@TJM990]

Oni doesn't like people knowing literally anything

[@Void_tear3123]

How did she get out of the drop pod tho?

[@OfficialFedHater]

She eventually got the emergency override on the blast bolts to work, the engineer to the right of the pod put it back together before Buck got there.

[@Void_tear3123]

@@OfficialFedHater thank you

[@ethanwagner6418]

@@OfficialFedHater Engineer: "Oh hey, you must be looking for your female acquaintance. I'll take you there, she's right this--" 💥

[@zaymac117]

@@OfficialFedHater are you saying that the engineer that was behind dare pod helped her out even though she constantly keeps saying to buck that she stuck in the pod?

[@OfficialFedHater]

@@zaymac117 No, she got out before the engineer touched the pod most likely, it's just that after she escaped she had to flee the covenant and get to her objective, the engineer put the pod back together because they like tinkering with technology.

[@arcanezedreaper793]

Yep make really good points. I've dealt with the whole no intel missions and let me tell you first hand experience it's chaotic.

[@Aburuzzz]

Bro, your videos are great. they always put a smile on me face

[@AscendHyperion]

Comments like this put a smile on my face 🍻🍞

[@somedude2455]

The moral of the story is: Don’t put women in charge, let alone in the military

[@ahx_sully6771]

One thing I would like to add is that Buck is a Gunnery Sargent reason he is referred as gunny and Vale is only a captain he out ranks her by quite a lot so his word goes not her's

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

what? capitan outranks Gunnery sergeants by a decent amount.

[@kassarc16]

Jacob Keyes was a Captain, and Miranda was a Commander, but Master Chief, being the highest ranking Navy NCO that he was, took orders from both.

[@zaymac117]

Yeah Dare being the captain of the unsc navy makes no damn sense like navy captain is equal to colonial in the US army and marine Corp. And also Master Chief petty officer is the E-9 navy equivalent to sergeant major or master gunnery sergeant in the US Marine corp and army.

[@elementalgamer0732]

As it seems everyone is forgetting what branch Dare was working under at the time, I will remind you: *MOTHER F'N ONI* ONI sent Dare on this suicidal mission, and probably ordered her to take over the one ODST squad that was gonna make a drop right over the target zone as her means to complete said mission. The entire stiff attitude from Dare felt very forced to me, especially with her relationship with Buck. She wasn't happy with this plan, she hated putting Buck and the guys in danger, but you can't exactly tell ONI to shove it without them sending a spartan assassin after you. (I'm looking at you Locke). You can also bet your ass ONI knew her relationship with Buck, but still made her keep a tight lip cuz, ya know, their called the UNSC *spooks* for a reason. But hey, your doing ONI proud by using Dare as the scapegoat she was meant to be. If the mission failed, it was her fault and ONI finds a replacement for her. If it succeeds, ONI gets the floaty boi while Buck, the boys, and Dare get the mission success credit. (Though I wouldn't be surprised if ONI met them back on thd ship and slapped a shit load of red tape in their faces). Gonna be honest, I'm disappointed Hyperion. Not once was ONI mentioned in your video, when I'm almost positive ODST states Dare is a member of ONI somewhere in the game. Seriously, ONI allowing "honest communication"? That's funny.

[@spartanomega9861]

now I hate dare >:(

[@drunkendevil6960]

Being honest... Always hated her

[@spartanomega9861]

@@drunkendevil6960 oops my bad, I meant to say "Now I hate dare more >:( "

[@xxcaptninjaxx4301]

Yeah she did flirting on buck with kiss him that some love.😂

[@tommunism8778]

5:51 Gotta try that

[@Gator159]

I've been saying this shit for years and no one ever listened to me. It's about time I had my confirmation bias lol

[@ChocoDonutzz1657]

I knew something was off

[@cyanimation1605]

Fourth? This is #5. Sure, 4 in the shooter series chronologically but this is the 5th to hit PC.

[@AscendHyperion]

Oh yeah you right, I forgot Reach. Whoopsie.

[@thevoidlookspretty7079]

In Veronica’s defense, the original plan was pretty freaking stupid.

[@ernestobustos5718]

What is the music after the intro called?

[@dundervevo6842]

Dead Rookie in the recreation cuts me to my core

[@MrBucket9158]

ha, we spent 30 minutes trying to find out how to put our weapons at ease.

[@KoPT01]

I mean, it’s pretty clearly laid out in the opening cutscene that Buck’s squad is being given a different objective, albeit one his troops have not been made aware of. Also, all the ODSTs heading towards the carrier got fried in it’s unexpected departure blast. Buck’s squad survived only because of their surprise orders to head towards the ONI base, which meant they were outside of the slipspace blast radius. If it weren’t for Dare, they’d all be dead.

[@CABOOSEBOB]

I just don’t get why they gave the covenant engineer to project freelancer to torture their ai with

[@jimmyratdog]

So you’re telling me…. Dare and Skyler from Breaking Bad aren’t the same actress….?

[@alex123-m8b]

Yes a video

[@Greasy__Bear]

Who is stupid enough to think its a good Idea to drop it elite soldiers blind to a dangerous mission, and then vanish without even attempting to rendezvous with them? Then when they finnaly show up anyways, blames them? Veronica Dare thats who.

[@soggy_auggy7191]

What's that song in the intro?

[@tioscha0]

This always bothered me. Buck should've been way more upset with Dare, Romeo almost died all, because of Dare's complete lack of communication. Idk why they try to play it off like Dare was right

[@stardust_2339]

Like Buck would care if Romeo died lol

[@tioscha0]

@@stardust_2339 He clearly would wym.

[@stardust_2339]

@@tioscha0 Just playing off of their banter.

[@zaymac117]

And Buck should have looked for evidence about what Dare has been up to with ONI and was behind and responsible of the covenant invasion on earth.

[@scaryterry0108]

Yeah but women expect you to read their minds. They don’t communicate.

[@EthanRom]

Ah the many holes in Bungie's story writing. Overly dramatic, incoherent vague one liners, and highly implausible. I love ODST but it is pretty broken storywise.

[@Espartanica]

And gameplay wise. Mostly because the enemies have decent range but you usually spawn with the pistol, useless against Brutes, and the SMG, useless at anything further than 12 meters or so.

[@EthanRom]

@@Espartanica yes another disappointment was the promise of stealth gameplay, which was an illusion in the guise of guns re-skinned with silencers, which did not contribute to any new meaningful gameplay.

[@Espartanica]

@@EthanRom Imagine assassinations and actual silenced guns in the gameplay, or being able to choose whether guns had silencers and other modifications to force a choice between stealth and damage

[@EthanRom]

@@Espartanica it has always been my dream for the Halo series to incorporate stealth gameplay. It's only real attempt has been Nightfall in Reach, but sadly just one sniper shot would alert all enemies in the map.

[@Espartanica]

@@EthanRom You should try Wolfenstien: The New Order. It's basically as close as you can get to being an ODST, with gameplay that's a fine line between Doom's aggression and Halo's strategy, and with almost all of the game doable with stealth.

[@OnyxJaguar]

I just got the point again where she punches Buck, who to be fair i dont even like. But was like WTF, so I searched Halo 3 DARE sucks to see if others hated her as much as I did LOL

[@zaymac117]

Yeah Dare is such a disappointing character that people barely talk about how bad her character was in ODST like why would you choose her over Kat, Cortana, foehammer, and even Miranda Keyes like come on. But yeah the more I replay this game the more I dislike Dare since she barely has any screen time and she's even unplayable in the campaign.

[@orbitaltrooper7139]

Yeah but didn't all the other ODST's that were still aiming for the carrier die?

[@thomasbane0]

I wish they actually showed more of Buck's homosexuality instead of clipping it out. While they removed the scene where Veronica reveals her manhood during the love scene with Buck, Bungie later announced this to be canon but because of backlash from fans they only tell about it in written lore. I cant wait for the 343 remaster! It's going to rock! 😎

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

"make sure she's got balls"

[@shadowgearaudio293]

Wait now I’m confused. So let me get this straight. Buck is gay. Veronica is a trans woman. Halo 3 ODST originally had a nudity scene they removed. Or at the very least they showed a character’s genitals. Did I get everything? This is very confusing. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

[@thomasbane0]

@@shadowgearaudio293 very confusing for all of us to be sure. But it makes for a wonderful modern telling of the Halo universe as 343 had envisioned. What a wonderful time to be alive. Though you and i may be a bit perplexed, neither Buck or Veronica are strangers to uncertainty (mainly pertaining to their sexuality, of course) I cant wait to preorder the remastered version. Many perceive Cortana's menstrual episodes to be of paramount importance on the topic of Halo story. But I, like many other fans of 343's Halo universe, yearn to see such stunning visuals of this forbidden romance between the two fantastically written homosexuals who are Buck and Veronica. 343 for the win! 💪🍆

[@Terrince_Tate]

Dare is one of the most ignorant characters of all time. I love ODST but Dare nearly ruined it with her stupidity. Unprofessional and terrible leader.

[@zaymac117]

And she is also an annoying feminist and hypocritical as hell no wonder why they she did not return in modern halo games. I should call her Captain feminist dare.

[@TheBioZombie]

Veronica "Derp"

[@danielhawkins9717]

Military leadership and military/female drama at it’s finest

[@igooog]

It's fitting that the final boss of the game is a woman driving a vehicle

[@nassim1173]

Love it

[@knightjack]

3:30. Wut is this? It's good, that's wut.

[@Neroskully]

The plot was lame.. was even lamer br wasn't in campaign or firefight. Slienced smh had pathetic damage.

[@razielle6795]

I really hate Veronica character

[@zaymac117]

Same man

[@unggoyzealot9973]

Yooo 69th like. Sadly, 419th view

[@trypl3372]

you DO know this is already known, right?

[@AscendHyperion]

Totally not. Im the first person to ever make a video discussing the razor thin plot of Halo 3 ODST. How could you possibly not know that?? Silly random commenter.

[@hectorhomero3789]

What?🤨 NOOOO 😠😠😠😡😡😡 Bungie Halo Games are perfects!!!! MASTER PIECES!!! With deep narrative, deep characters and amazing gameplay!!!! 😎😎👌👌 Halo 3 ODST is a perfect game!!! you are just a 343 fanboy 😅🤣🤣🤢🤮

[@sergiosarmiento4233]

Halo 3 ODST the original Star Wars Episode 7

[@lofiseeker1790]

Wait, what? Why are you stating what was already stated, and then painting it as bad writing? She didnt care about the team because the carrier was never the mission it was vergil and on top of that shes ONI. Id expect you to understand that since you like 343 and every halo they made.

[@AscendHyperion]

I am taking control of an ODST squad minutes before a major military action. Being the new commanding officer I should: A) Provide this squad with the bare minimum information about their new mission. To establish a directive baseline or B) Flirt with my Ex-Boyfriend until we deploy and then act shocked several hours later when my relatively simple objective is incomplete and my commandeered squad is nowhere to be found I love the irony in your comment too. You claim I'm merely restating the obvious and then retort that the real reason did what she did was... THE OBVIOUS!! Oh man! 😂 And then you cap it off with "NUMBER COMPANY BAD!! 😠" Textbook. I love it.

[@lofiseeker1790]

@@AscendHyperion well vergil was not the obvious it is what drove the story forward. Her being a bad leader has less to do with bungie and the game odst and more with her character, so if you would have criticized her character that would have made sense.

[@AscendHyperion]

You're right. It has everything to do with her character. Who wrote her character? Bungie. For what game? Halo 3 ODST Why are you trying to needlessly isolate these things? I don't even think I critique Bungie's writing directly in this video. I focus on how her actions affected the plot.