Versus: Thrustmaster T-DFB vs Logitech TrueForce

If you are a fan of haptic feedback, you might want to learn a bit more about T-DFB and TrueForce. In this video, I try to compare them and highlight the positive and negative points.
00:00:48 Technology
00:01:17 How does it feel?
00:07:43 Compatibility
00:08:37 Logical evolution
00:10:05 Conclusion
#trueforce #t-dfb #logitech #thrustmaster #simracing #versus

[@Pooz30]

I wish you posted this before I bought my wheel. I was looking for this exact comparison, but it was hard to find. The good news is that I went with the Logi G Pro, so this confirms I made the right choice. :-)

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@Pooz30 absolutely. The exclusiveness of the T-DFB kills it really. You will be happy if you decide to change games.

[@chuanjenchang3153]

My experience (In GT7): 1.PS5 controller have both kerb vibration and bridge expansion joint road feedback. 2.Trueforce has kerb vibration on every map including Nürburgring with G923 and G PRO, but no feedback for the bridge expansion joint in map like tokyo expressway . 3.T-DFB has no kerb rumbling in Nürburgring, and not sure about the bridge expansion joint. 4.With Bass Shaker directly connected to PS5 there's no kerb rumbling but have the bridge expansion joint shake. Some map in GT7 don't provide kerb rumbling in wheels force feedback (for example Nürburgring , SPA) and some map dose provide it via force feedback such as DRAGON TRAIL. the only way to get it is through Trueforce or PS5 contoller......and that's why I can only use Logitech wheel when playing GT7 For me Logitech Trueforce + bass shaker gives you all the sensation in GT7

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Thank you for sharing your experience friend 👍

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Sorry guys. KZbin is being a pain in the bum for the subtitles 😕

[@marcianzero_yt]

Well, your struggle is real. Your videos are the only ones that always force the closed caption on for me and I have to manually deselect it. One click saved for this video. ;)

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@marcianzero_yt 😒 so what you are saying is: drop the subtitles

[@marcianzero_yt]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource Nah. I won’t need them, but I am perhaps not representative of the audience. I was more thinking: While you are fiddling with the subtitles, have a look at the options for setting them up. ;)

[@THESHADOW97139]

No subtitle under this video?? CC will not work??

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@THESHADOW97139 fixed. Them. Auto-sync didnt work. Spent 2 hours now syncing it manually. Should work now

[@mehmetgunlu7756]

I really enjoy true force on the g pro. I would never go back to only FFB on any wheel. I hope on the ADAC simracing Expo Logitech bring some new wheels a handbrake and a new shifter for there ecosystem.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@mehmetgunlu7756 its coming friend.. better late then never 😎👍

[@reviewforthetube6485]

I actually dislike trueforce and anything else doikg things like this. I prefer the raw ffb from the agme itself. Not addatives. We already have so many people in the community who want vibrations reduced so much and dont want osccilations and already tone down details. This imo is overkill and doesnt feel right. Just like the fanatec test i didnt like the dd+ using there fullforce. I feel we have insane amounts of details with any wheelbase now with the right settings. I want to feel the loading and unloading if suspension and the grip more then any other details anyways. As dan suzuki said I dont want to feel motor vibrations when sitting still lol.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Yeah completely understand. Some people find it pollution of force-feedback and I can understand the reasoning for it.

[@Dave062YT]

Btw I would've waited for the Thrustmaster DD but then thy said it wouldnt have console support so went Logitech

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Yeah TM DD for console.... its coming 🙄 some time... somewhere.... 😏

[@PJDobbs]

I can't comment on this one. Never had either one. Great info, though. On another subject, Neo, im not smart. Lol. The buttkicker has its own haptic software. Works with ACC and all the other ones with a couple of clicks.

[@THESHADOW97139]

🤔

[@PJDobbs]

@@THESHADOW97139 😁

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

I didnt use the software of the BK really.. have everything configured in Simhub but I take it with the BK software, its more simple and you have more preconfigured templates for games.

[@Dave062YT]

My first proper wheel was a TGT 2 and loved it .I upgraded to a Logitech G pro just because I could afford it and wanted the best experience possible .Gpro is very similar tp TGT just on steroids.

[@slavplaysgames]

you really thin logitech is best sim experience ? wtf clown haha it's the worst scam ever ... moza ,fanatec,asetek,simucube ? lol logitech is garbage

[@THESHADOW97139]

Can you compare them more deeply?? I'm starting to believe that between TGT2 and Fanatec 8 nm (given the risks in buying Fanatec) it would be better to take a thrustmaster

[@marcianzero_yt]

That’s heavily depending on your plans. If you are only playing GT7 (as GTS is dead), the T-GT is a very solid choice. The wheel rim is better than the GT DD Pro standard one. If you want variety, the ecosystem on Fanatec is bigger. The Loadcell pedals for Thrustmaster are a complete replacement, while the CSL loadcell can be added to the standard pedal set. The T-DFB is nice, I missed it when I transitioned to Fanatec. But then I stopped playing GT7, and on ACC it wouldn’t have been available anyhow. I changed the wheel to a McLaren GT3 one. The additional width feels nice. I have hardly ever used the GT DD wheel since I have the McLaren one.

[@Dave062YT]

@@THESHADOW97139 I dont think there is any risk buying Fanatec .No one will let them go under .This great channel has reviewed them both btw

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@marcianzero_yt Only on PC. I am mainly looking to measure the difference in terms of feeling, between its thrust base and logitech

[@garryburns6659]

Well my f/f T-DFB on my T-GT works Great on every race game I have being 4 f1 games, GT games ETC, and they all work great,👍🙂

[@marcianzero_yt]

You will have to elaborate. The transducer is solely supported by GTS and GT7 as explained in the video. How do you make it work on any other game?

[@garryburns6659]

A good friend of mine is a technician working mainly with consoles and games l don't know what he did to my console but he had it in pieces when I saw it lol but is very good at what he does 🙂👍

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@marcianzero_yt you can actually define it on Simhub as basshaker on PC if you put it on gt mode but then your wheel wont work. All the searches I have done sugest its not possible to use the transducer so I am curious too.

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@garryburns6659 This story is....complicated 🤔 In a simulation, the game must transmit the information at the right time and with a given force... it is not hardware, but software....