Vestige™ - How to Play

[@moo2k4]

Hopefully some gameplay is coming soon, because while I love what I hear, I'd really love to see it :)

[@PatrickKerwin]

Ok. I think I get it now. Vestige = Vindication + Pets + Chronicle Events + modified end game trigger, control tile bonus, and empowered draw rules + dystopian future vibes with individual player power, nemesis solo modes, and amazing art on full size cards (Edit: cards the size of the ones in Unsettled). Mechanics not in Vestige: chronicles, loot, gems, minis, well of wishes/academy, quests, legendary cards, building sites, sacred stones, fortification, firewind, guild boards, and odyssey. I know that’s a lot, but I think that may help people wrap their mind around it.

[@Gamer2k4]

Just to be clear, the cards are not at all "full size." They're "Mini European" sized (44mm x 68mm), meaning they're the size of the small Unsettled cards or the original Ticket to Ride train cards.

[@PatrickKerwin]

Huh, they looked like standard playing cards in the video. Thank you for the clarity on this.

[@kevinthomas7549]

I don't know, I think the way JOBS work is kinda Odyssey-ish... or is it just me?

[@PatrickKerwin]

@@kevinthomas7549 I think you’re onto something. It does have that Odyssey vibe to it.

[@hermanturnip3984]

Good call. I thought this was Vindication part 2 when I first saw it.

[@Mazad86]

You two have a great energy and are absolutely charming. Thanks for the video it gives a great overview

[@Montag451]

I love that you guys are returning to this design and polishing it up. I love Vindication, and this is a must for me. Great new theme, too! I also love the "straight-man/funny-man" routine 🤣

[@neilcressey8189]

Looks so good. I love the colour principles. Looking forward to seeing more about the game.

[@stevekingswell9143]

Very clear, many thx, sounded like you had fun recording it.

[@Babyboyo1]

It would seem like it should be Potential > Influence > Control (instead of concentration). hmm....I am backing this game all in though. Very interesting.

[@chobindue]

And now I want to play Vindication again and again before Vestige arrives 😆

[@calebf.6806]

Need a play through to really get the vibe imo, pretty clear explanation. Need the flow now

[@AlbanSoloBoardgames]

This new game looks very exciting! I really love this unverse 😊

[@AlasdairMacKinnon]

I'm very excited to play this. Looking at the map mat, I wonder if a dual-layer board would keep things neater.

[@PatrickKerwin]

Wow. This game looks 🔥. Makes me really want a box of upgraded edge-to-edge printed Vindication tiles. 🤞

[@sedraniM]

Yeah me too! The art was a little to small on the Vindication tiles.

[@danielfreitas9301]

After watching the video and reading the manual, it could be made more clear how to organize and draw the subversion and end game condition cards once you reach or pass over a red trigger. From what I understood, the end game trigger stays on top of the subversion deck. Once you reach or pass it you BOTTH reveal the end game objective AND obtain a subversion card. The decks are independent and the end game card being on top has no bearing on the access to the subversions underneath. They could actually be placed side by side. The fact that the a different card type is on top gives the idea it somehow blocks the underneath content IMO. Either place them side by side during setup or explicitly state in the rules that end game cards do not preclude obtaining subversions. The way it is written on page 10 is too generic: "Note: Reaching a trigger may result in you revealing other cards from the stack as well, but right now we’re just looking at subversion cards." You do not reveal the subversion card so the language becomes a bit vague. You should probably have a separate section for reaching one of the points on the score track. For example: Reaching a Red Trigger: - Reveal the end game card, if not already revealed - Draw a subversion card, keeping its contents secret from other players - If playing with a nemesis (whatever happens if nemesis are in play). Then you follow up with the instructions on page 10. My 2 cents

[@pyhriel]

I really like what I see, but I'd really want to see a gameplay run-through to see how it actually feels. Is this something we can expect before the end of the kickstarter campaign?

[@johnpanagos5835]

Wouldnt help if the primary attributes had a different background? (either pattern or color)

[@jareduxr]

Interesting idea. I can envision a tiny, glowing lattice of geometric pattern that differs between the three. You could even overlay/combine the two to form a new pattern for the secondary (curvilinear and rectilinear form ... well we apparently don't have a word for curvilinear plus rectilinear patterns!). Could be subtle but great for color blind players too.

[@johnpanagos5835]

@jareduxr yeah i am colorblind too

[@SamiPaju]

I'm surprised you didn't cough at all with all those dust particles floating around the room!

[@OrangeNebula]

They're used to it. Also, augmented lungs.

[@bryceknittle]

"Considerationing." LOL.

[@sedraniM]

Is there a TTS Mod to try before backing?

[@yuarthur455]

The art look so safe in this game, i thought it was supposed to be a dark gritty cyberpunk world

[@campinginaustralia7875]

What gave you that idea?

[@zitrouny9678]

Looks great! Was any AI used for the art?

[@Kravian729]

Nope, never (it's mentioned in the campaign page). O-neb has credited Ninja Jo as primary artist on this with some of the packs including guest (human) art.

[@gerasimos5491]

For new comers this game is ok. For me, vindicstion all in owner, is a hard pass. Cant see anything new other than reimplementation and reskin of an already awesome game. You dont send pets to mission you call them sth else and twisting the mechanic s bit etc etc. My concern is why a new company with just 2 good games and one in development needs to revisit a good title to reskin it instead of producing sth new? Vestige is a money sinkhole, and do not justify the price for vindication owners for a couple new art and twisted mechanics. Good luck with your campaign but i m off! I m waiting new amd inspiring projects from you.

[@Buruku2]

Hm, don't underestimate the interest some people have in smaller, more maneagable games. It's valid that people super invested in Vindication might pass on this, but it may end up being a "gateway" game for new customers. :)

[@juvigoat2168]

and to be fair they said as much in the reveal video.

[@gerasimos5491]

@@Buruku2 I am not underestimating anything. Just commenting on their sayings that there are significant differences and a lot of staff to explore even for vindication owners. The videos did not convinced me at all. Of course, new comers can have it and enjoyed. This game comes from a great design.