Veteran Patton Speed Test - How Stable Is This Wheel at Speed?

[@Andre-Mostert]

This wheel does look really solid on all the terrains I have seen. And man it picks up speed really quick. Thanks for sharing

[@Duf]

You bet

[@gavincronin6816]

I got my sherman s on Tuesday only done about 20km on it so far because of weather and work but love it and the build quality is next level.really considering getting a patton now aswell as I don't own a 16inch wheel and from what people are saying it's an exciting euc.

[@Duf]

Patton is EXCELLENT

[@judgesfiveeight]

You probably still have it in HT mode... which has a speed limit ~43mph. If you flip it to HS mode (check the manual), you can "supposedly" touch 50. Not my cup of tea so YMMV. When I'm not riding bike paths - I have mine alerting at 35ish and tilting at 40ish... but I'm a very conservative rider and like plenty of safety margin.

[@JonGZBOS]

You said HT and HS. Are you saying if you put it in high speed it reduces low speed torque? I haven't heard of this. Just curious.

[@judgesfiveeight]

@@JonGZBOS I've heard it referred to that way - but it's likely a misnomer. I'm not privy to the algorithmic details... but my understanding is that HS (high speed) mode just reduces certain "safety margins" in their "default mode". That 's probably a more accurate way to reference it... "default mode" that is.

[@FastMark793]

@@judgesfiveeight That's exactly as i understand it as well, doesn't affect low speed torque. I feel no difference in torque on my Sherman S in high speed mode.

[@Duf]

HS mode it is!

[@wheelydope]

I believe that OS % tiltback is PWM. 80% is typically where final beeps come in on most wheels.

[@Duf]

Ok I'll dial it back to 80

[@stevorun9865]

Yes it’s you settings so have fun playing with it and look forward to seeing it. Pushback is the real warning.

[@Duf]

I will play some more.... I think lower than realized battery level contributed too

[@TheEVside]

Great vid love my Patton quick wheel

[@Duf]

Right on

[@hankVa13ncia]

I've hit 50 mph at 87% PWM on my Patton

[@niekonesakyki]

what is your weight?

[@roghaj]

@@niekonesakyki You don't ask a chubby guy his weight. ;) Us Cali riders are just a bit crazy@

[@niekonesakyki]

@@roghaj still would be nice to know 😃

[@Duf]

Interesting

[@hankVa13ncia]

@@roghaj 🤣

[@isthereanyfood]

Beep beep beep! That's the PWM alarm. The Patton beeps at 85% PWM. That leaves you with a safety margin of 15%. Since you set OS tiltback at 85% PWM that is where tiltback will initiate... and it does so in a very creeping manner which is almost unnoticeable.... until you pass it by 7-8% PWM... all the way to 92... 93 maybe... and then it will suddenly become very noticeable. But then you will have been riding beyond the beeps for quite a while. I keep my tiltback at 78%... and this way I can ride the subtle tiltback and if I push hard enough it will usually coincide with the 85% beeps. This also leaves me with some safety margin in case I hit a bump. Begode tiltback with custom firmware is far superior... but this is better than nothing. The Patton is definitely not a 50mph wheel. It is a 44mph wheel. You can just touch 44mph at 85% PWM. It keeps speed decently at half battery and even below that. Also the speed is over-reported by about 6%. So it is even slower than that. And this is on the high speed mode and with me being a 150lbs rider. Almost as fast as the EXN. Faster than the Nikola Plus.

[@Duf]

I felt no tilt back while it was beeping. I want to run it back at full battery. So I hit 85% PWM? Surprising.

[@Senioritis012]

My record on fresh battery is 44-45ish mph. I can do 37-40mph down to 55%. They really squeezed a lot of sustained performance out of this wheel

[@Duf]

Very nice! Yep the Patton is as fast as I would ever need it to be.

[@Stan-kj8fq]

The community is raving over the Patton. Is the Patton the best EUC ever?

[@Duf]

It's the favorite EUC I have ever owned.

[@michaeldavidson3349]

I have yet to push beyond 42.2mph on my Patton. But, I removed my beeper so I'm still getting a feel for the PWM tiltback and whether I trust it to keep me from pushing too far.

[@Duf]

Cool

[@meuconmyeuc1337]

I'm having a similar issue with my OG Sherman. 2 minutes into my ride and I'm at 65% under load, whereas normally I'm at 85%; even after charging it all night. It's not always the case, but it does happen from time to time.

[@Duf]

When the charger turns green the wheel stays turned on, I will run this back tomorrow

[@judgesfiveeight]

Regarding Dawn's remarks... far be it for me to question her high speed expertise... BUT, there are variables other than rim/tire diameter that contribute to stability at speed... tire type/profile, tire pressure, weight differences and weight distribution differences between wheels, and of course experience on said smaller diameter wheels are all contributing factors. Coming up as I have... 16S -> V10F -> 16X -> Patton... the Patton feels extremely stable at speed. Would a larger wheel feel even more so? Very likely, but for what I'm used to... the Patton is extremely stable.

[@Duf]

My Patton feels SUPER solid at all speeds, so far.

[@judgesfiveeight]

@@Duf Yup. My experience is that it feels SOLID enough. But I can see her POV if you're someone CRUISING regularly in the 40+ range. But frankly... if you're someone who demands 40+ for any real significant portion of your ride... the Patton and Commander Mini are most likely already not on your radar due to battery.

[@BabbittdaWabbitt]

Someone loaned me a GoPro 4 a few years ago. The software made my puter lock up.

[@Duf]

I have a love/hate relationship with my GoPros

[@ratmanmurray7137]

My go to wheel is my Nikola plus, I find it no less stable at 40 mph than my Sherman... I personally think 16"-17" is perfectly fine stability wise. I am only 5' 7"/180# ... so unless the stability changes for taller/heavier people, I would not NOT recommend a 16" wheel to anyone based on stability. I actually believe the smaller wheel turning faster might even be more stable at 40mph than a bigger wheel... the bigger wheel obviously will be able to reach higher speed. Unless you only want high speed, I say 16" is just fine

[@Duf]

Nikola throwback!!

[@Stefonewheel]

Love your stuff Duff. Did you get a good price for the begote?

[@Duf]

Eh not bad

[@medium_dog7211]

I've seen 48.6 on the c pro, 50 mph is elusive...

[@Duf]

If I cross 43 on this I'll be good

[@niekonesakyki]

Get to high speed mode. I weight 84kg naked and with full battery it beeps around 75kmh. I have OS tilt back set at 80% and it is still not engaged at that speed, so 80kmh should be no problem, but never tried yet.@@Duf

[@medium_dog7211]

@begodecrashtestdummy we should link up here one day soon

[@sludog]

Dump the go pro gear. If you want a reliable camera that works every time get a DJI Action 3 camera. Cheaper than GoPro too. If fact they’re announcing the newest version on August 2. Rumored called the DJI action 4. DJI also has an awesome wireless mic if you need a new wireless microphone on your rides.

[@Duf]

I have the DJI mic, might look into the Action 3

[@rayraytub1000]

3 beeps dude!!!

[@Duf]

Yea I know, they don't call me Extreme Danger for nothing...

[@davewood1982]

Did you have high speed on?

[@Duf]

No, but I will next time.

[@Shahyan008]

How much is this EUC???

[@Duf]

A little under $3k, use my ewheels link in the description if you like.,

[@vadimkorotaev6161]

How do you live there, totally not a single pedestrian one on the street...... abandoned palms place

[@Duf]

Well that is a bike path greenway. One of the reasons you dont see people is I typically do not film when people are around.

[@medium_dog7211]

1st bur not final 😊

[@Duf]

True

[@lunchymunchy2984]

41 mph… is the short answer

[@Duf]

But not the final answer