Vetheo's MVP campaign / Does Vitality have a path to victory? - Best Damn League Show S1E6

[@kevinjanicki755]

its actually not deficio building MSF teams but Hatchy their GM. he scouted vetheo and hirit last year saying that vetheo is th best midlaner outside of LEC back then. funnily enough, he said the same thing about humanoid when he got him to illuminar in the polish league. Hatchy has an isane eye for talent. he was also a coach of many successful teams. He is a guest you should consider

[@riseagainstthemachine6079]

I have a deep wish inside me tbh. I want Thorin and Iwd to have Hyli as their guest. I feel like he gets the most amount of attention, but the least amount of interviews (in fnc).

[@MrVolt16]

Given how he's been playing for ever and I never recall him appearing on these shows, I reckon it's more of a Hyli thing that he doesn't want to come on these shows himself. I highly doubt they've never invited him.

[@riseagainstthemachine6079]

@@MrVolt16 I know... It kinda makes him mysterious and hot Kappa

[@alexs.9903]

I'd feel as watching FNC and being a fan, hes comfy with FNC camera crew if someone was on the show he knew well or you brought him and upset on the show maybe he would be more likely. Just my view tho.

[@riseagainstthemachine6079]

@@alexs.9903 I mean... Maybe Thorin has just a bad standing in hylis view, because the whole rekkles thing xD

[@pureevilclutch]

UwUsang

[@DorkSideStudio]

Man, always feels like people forget what GrabbZ was able to accomplish with those ROCCAT rosters. As much as I want Adam to fail, I want Grabbz to succeed.

[@rupidstetard885]

Okay, remind me. What did he accomplish with ROCCAT? Go on, list the accomplishments. OH WAIT! There are none...

[@aneeshsastry6069]

Can we please have a Rookie fanboy episode with Thorin and Dom. That would be gold and considering what a monster Rookie has been that episode would be gold!! Cheers.

[@stevenschomberger1465]

LPL has been just insane this year too! Summoning insight will definitely have an episode about it probably right before playoffs but I doubt a time is set yet

[@MC_HANDROLLED]

Thorin, Dom, and Nelson LPL interviews would be pog

[@r9dog949]

This show is only about LEC I think

[@LikeACrouton]

They did kinda have that discussion with Monte about the "goat" of league. I think it'd be hard to have an entire hour just dedicated to it.

[@jolfen1837]

Why doesn't just BDS reunite Crownshot with LIMIT? They looked really good together on SK

[@ParallelZuVega]

Xmatty crazy talent bro! maybe one day he can become 8th best ADC in LEC if he keeps improving!

[@ssenkrad67]

Are you sure they want to play with eachother? Remember that players make teams and nuclearint is in bds probably because limit asked for him

[@alienobserver7220]

Just promote Crownshot and let him choose among the two supports, or maybe even buy some new support after the split if they feel they need to.

[@tompossessed1729]

To be honest Crownshot being vocal helps as well

[@LikeACrouton]

Aaay Shout out do GM Deficio. I hope misfits isn't split up by necessity after this.

[@vanidar21]

what a nice show this one was, thanks a lot.

[@DollofFate]

damn we get a closing word from thorin. another fire episode thank you both for the content

[@111111hakar]

The BDS voice comms are somewhat telling of the team environment especially considering these are the comms BDS themselves choose to make public. here is how they normally go Adam and Nuclearint: joking around with each other not appearing to take things seriously Cinkrof: Visibly dying inside but acting as team leader anyway Xmatty: mostly relaying useful information such as flash timers limit: doing his best Sona impression

[@STRENGTH444]

VIT needed to picky up MikyX and not Labrov

[@VentiLator7]

The funny thing about the idea with making the video (on why eg. a jungler shouldn't have gone for a gank in xyz case) is, that making said video would screw you in the KZbin algorhythm and would thus ITSELF fall into the category "yes it's nice but it screwed you over in different ways" just like the topic of said video would.

[@alibaki7318]

You lads have great chem, this is listen loco on steroids damn.

[@triplesharigan]

as how it stands for me play-offs: Rogue, Fnatic, Misfits, G2, Excel and either Vit/Mad

[@Pigraider268]

I believe more in SK than Mad Lions tbh

[@Stockbrot_]

@@Pigraider268 🤔🤔

[@triplesharigan]

@@Pigraider268 fair enough

[@madbruh123]

A question for you guys: if you're the gm of vitality, would you get markoon and advienne for summer?

[@Wizardi1111]

Can still give selfmade another try, he's earned it unlike Labrov.

[@madbruh123]

@@Wizardi1111 so you would rather gamble on selfmade for the 3rd/4th zplit in a row with a new support that he has never played with rather than get a duo that been proven to work?

[@Jaunekoz]

@@madbruh123 > Selfmade has literally been great so far this split. and even then XL at this point would not let Markoon go unless Markoon specifically wants out and who knows if XL would sell Markoon to Vitality

[@Wizardi1111]

@@madbruh123 Define proven to work. They won a couple of games together that's it. Selfmade has shown an insane ceiling, it's worth to give him a different support and try it out.

[@hourlysword3568]

I think they would definitely look better with those two. But Selfmade has such a high ceiling, that I think I would try to go all in and buy out someone like Treatz to replace Labrov and round this roster off with someone who is pretty strong mechanically and is not afraid to lead the team.

[@lanceelopezz223]

Rookie, lezgooo

[@EpicVideoMaster11]

ty

[@alexanderschwarz242]

1:17:10 but that is what i really actually want

[@alexs.9903]

"There is no midlaner or AD that is calling rift herald rotations." Excuse me sir let me introduce you to Faker. @Dom ;)

[@tommymao6028]

He said "for the most part"

[@cepheus9856]

Perkz/Carzzy teams have been historically bad early game teams but good mid-late game. They have a lot of say in shotcalling. I wouldn't blame jungle support on that one. Selfmade has been pretty proactive to ganking early levels actually, early game isn't his problem. G2 has always had bad early games with Jankos and somehow he's praised as a "jungle god" when he's been having bottom tier First Blood rates since 2018. But how come no one flames him for it? When he played with peak form of Perkz/Caps, should actually mean all the more overrated he is? Double standard much? Too obvious with your biases? That was only in ROC/H2K days but people still believe that old "first blood king" meme when he's been a different jungler for more than 4 years now with really bad early games. But NAHH somehow "doesn't matter" because of his name and he had peak form teammates that makes junglers look more overrated when they're winning

[@jakuborlowski7492]

its super obvious that you dont like Jankos so your opinion is gonna be biased, also the way you talk about the game makes me believe you are a low elo player , but ey keep it upp buddy maybe u get out of gold one day :D

[@jr4god11]

no other?? so we all just ignoring Kumo?

[@Zeroyue622]

At least Excel move better than tsm move

[@rezqueue]

Thorin, you should be thankful to the KZbin viewers. It proves that the show is somewhat alive

[@loxi9]

If vetheo signs to MSF again he needs to fire his agent.

[@bomnitoperro9422]

Adam is rhe better player on his chair

[@LvckyDRew]

Orome catching strays in 2022 pt. 15

[@elibaki5130]

lets goooo

[@Vinsmokedu]

Bwipo is the one that is better than Alphari outside of lane.

[@TheDarkKnightEE]

shame this came out yesterday, Vetheo completely ruined G2 almost single handedly

[@teunkanters6350]

when does the winner of the sjoks art contest get announced?

[@feature8]

LEC had no superteams coming into this year.

[@abirmahmud2242]

who is the real top team? lol nobody seems to care unless fnc or g2 are top in lec, this happened last year too, no matter how good mad played they'd be looked down upon

[@carlosrazier433]

It’s hilarious how everyone is just expecting that Rogue will choke lmao. Honestly fair enough, I believe the same 😂

[@W0Rd0n32sTre3T]

Understandable, since until last year G2 and FNC each had half the LEC titles, with Alliance stealing one 😂 As an upcoming title contender its hard to compete with that history. Even G2 took at least a year and a half to be a fan favourite.

[@samuelstrunk5525]

Yeah, who would have guessed that you need to do content to get fans instead of just winning. Literally despite them not being at worlds, G2 still did better content than worlds teams besides fnc in this time. Mad missed their oportunity to build a big brand, and then also not kept their biggest star. I dont need to even start with RGE, who did even less and didnt win. No wonder I again care more for FNC, G2 and VIT than the other orgs because I actually get to know the people playing there. I know much more about Flakked, Targamas and BB than any new adition to RGE or MAD just because they put much more effort in being interesting. Sucess is only one thing to generate interest, and if orgs dont get it, they'll never beat G2/FNC as brands and therefore longterm as teams.

[@bossanova8856]

​@@samuelstrunk5525 bro rogue barely has the money to keep their org alive, they don't have the resources to be making content to get people to care about their players. We literally sold our two best players because we need the money.

[@BW-vp3yk]

@@bossanova8856 sold two best players at a crazy price to NA teams, and got players who have performed arguably even better (Hans looked insane at worlds, but otherwise I'd say Comp has had a comparable split so far). I'd call that good team management, rather than a lack of budget... I mean, if NA teams are going to continue offering overblown prices then why wouldn't LEC teams sell off players before the bubble bursts?

[@GlenUK1]

Do they talk about fnatic?

[@metallicamadsam]

what happened to the crackdown then?

[@manasik6108]

crackdown discontinued. Coz according to dom it had way less returns compared to how much work it needed.

[@metallicamadsam]

@@manasik6108 thats sad it was my favorite league podcast by far

[@manasik6108]

@@metallicamadsam same!! I really liked well researched questions and discussions with the guests. Especially with the Coaches.

[@MC_HANDROLLED]

Unfortunately when you have to go for views, you have to cater to the lowest common denominator. It was fantastic but seems to have been under appreciated

[@metallicamadsam]

@@manasik6108 yeah peter dunn and yamoto were some of the best ones!

[@ryanvenable2084]

Honestly make that fucking video where you break down film Kobe style.

[@zobtastik]

what happend to crackdown, why you stop doing it

[@zobtastik]

@MasterSwagKing Entertainment you got tldr?

[@joaovieira4785]

Dom, Limit has been terrible this split. Shouldnt defend players just because they were on the show

[@koreanata6951]

The moment Hyli retires LEC will lose its Faker. The moment Vetheo retires LEC will lose another good player of the day. However, I bet the player of the day will get the MVP again and not the one whose name the whole Korea knows and respects. Hyli changes the role of supports as a whole just as Faker changed mid laner's role.

[@barnie321]

I feel like G2’s issue is coaching staff

[@anzumazaki7798]

And head of management

[@bsmith35]

MAD suck because Elyoya tries to do too much. He has been awful the last few weeks. League is a team game, you have to trust your team.

[@tommy2364]

lec sucks so far lcs is looking better. Eu fans on hardcore copium and so is thorin.

[@delontewest6353]

Is this another episode of hating on caps?

[@ProvencaLeGaulois]

I miss the Crackdown, Dom says a lot of dumb shit when he's host but I love him, Thorin takes up too much space, especially without a guest to balance him out some more

[@nofluffagain]

Completely disagree.

[@gus-go8wn]

completely disagree too haha

[@alexandresilva3427]

Also disagree.

[@Wizardi1111]

Thorin is the best host out of every show, you're delusional.

[@carlosrazier433]

I do miss the crackdown but not for those reasons, but I do think this is a nice variation.