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[@CorridorCrew]

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[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

You guys have to get Andy Serkis on your show!

[@stealthpoint]

Lmao good luck

[@Macintosh1001]

@@stealthpoint Probably has the same chance as getting Jackie Chan on their show

[@yovandwinandaherkusuma904]

that'll be worth 5 episodes making 😂

[@saiaveikoso9397]

Or just cg Andy Serkis

[@bigdawginthecut4076]

For real

[@jonathanhernandez-pn3uu]

Please bring back the “bad” cgi segments, I really loved you guys breaking it down and showing what should be done to fix it lol

[@WRPLpodcast]

I loved when they fixed Scorpion King, need more of that

[@ashwindsouza606]

black widow had many, im dissapoint3d th3y didn't talk about it.

[@bitslay]

@@ashwindsouza606 my man what happened to your "e" key

[@experts_sketch1051]

black widow has some of the worst vfx too, as these guyz r reacting..should cover all facts

[@ashwindsouza606]

@@bitslay e and w keys don't work on my laptop. So I make do.

[@giusweep]

As much as I’m really loving all these industry guests you’ve had lately, I’d love to see some more of you guys reacting to bad cgi - picking it apart and explaining how it could be fixed, etc. I think the contrast between really good and horrifically bad vfx makes for a very fun episode, especially when you guys have a lot to say about it.

[@mrdeclansir]

For sure ... I love the guys and the show but having industry specialists on to talk through their back catalogue of work is a totally different show premise than the 3 guys sitting on the sofa running through great and bad CGI ... don't get me wrong I still watch it and enjoy it but this format should be a separate show maybe?

[@Jeaky]

yeah, sometimes with these professionals, they forget about the "bad" part in the title. And i think these guests would probably have a lot of interesting stuff to say about some bad FX

[@giusweep]

@@Jeaky oh yeah, don’t get me wrong I absolutely love these guests coming on and sharing inside knowledge - it’s super entertaining and interesting! But part of the fun for me with these videos is watching some laughable vfx and having the Corridor Crew explain why it’s bad/how it could be improved, etc

[@Jeaky]

@@giusweep yeah exactly I agree! And I think hearing these professional guests give insight on bad vfx would be even better

[@Alextheknightoftime]

Remember when I think Niko said it, that it would be cool to explore fan films or videos on KZbin with VFX? We haven't gotten that much of that and those kinds of videos are still good to analyze whether it's good or bad CGI. Hell, if someone out there made something impressive with small resources it's good information for aspiring filmmakers and VFX artists out there who want to achieve a lot with a little.

[@scottmanley]

When are you guys going to go back to the really early CGI. We've seen the original Tron, but before that there was Futureworld which did 3D face renders in the mid 1970's. Then there's The Last Starfighter which was really first movie to try to render 'real life' scenes using CGI.

[@WojciechHandke]

Hi Scott! It's great to see that we share so many interests outside of space and science related things! Fly safe!

[@djhaz-m.a.t.2168]

Fly Safe, Scott!!!

[@BrunoJuncklaus]

safe flights

[@cmd0113]

You guys definitely need to make a separate Planet of the Apes analysis, and make a section about why you think Maurice (the orangutan) looks more realistic than Cesar.

[@DucNguyen-ek4vq]

totally agree. For some reason Maurice looks indistinguishable from real life lol

[@Pastrybfs]

Agreed. Maurice is the most realistic CG character I've ever seen.

[@itsd0nk]

100%

[@mrdeepdish9007]

I think it has something to do with them humanizing cesar which is why his 3d model didn't look exactly like a chimp.

[@bryankuso731]

Agreed. My top 3 for most realistic looking models would be Maurice, The Gorillas, and Rocket.

[@McCallahanIndustries]

I would love if you guys covered the 1997 classic, Anaconda. It's a major motion picture with this incredibly floaty CGI snake that not only defies gravity - but warps reality when taking down cast members. Bending reality around Owen Wilson, floating in mid-air down the inside of a factory, or doing both to Jon Voight. There's a CGI snake regurgitation scene. And there's a realistic practical snake animatronic to boot. It has everything. It's right up your alleyway and a real treat. Thank you.

[@motionblurofhappy7804]

You CANT bring up Anaconda without saying Ice Cube and J-Lo are also in it. That’s like 80% why the movie is funny.

[@comedian0338]

Weird, me and a friend were talking the other day about how we'd love for them to check out Anaconda, and Monkeybone.

[@funktimusrhyme]

And the shot of the boat reversing that's just the film being played backwards with a big obvious waterfall falling upwards

[@reynaldotyler7284]

This is hilarious because I just watched the movie yesterday so I think it’s kind of bizarre to see it here

[@ladycedthia]

I feel like they already did that one?

[@thequadglaser1983]

I'd love to see you react to Doom Patrol VFX, I liked a lot of it, especially the giant tarantula!

[@kieron576]

It'd be great to see an episode where you look over all the Oscar winning vfx shots across the years

[@Psyrus88]

This.

[@harshjaiswal638]

This.

[@hopser6620]

This

[@xenon2k6]

vouch'

[@PNWAffliction]

yeah dunk on all the fking oscar shit that shouldn't have even been noted, and replace it with what should have won, and why.

[@FocusFilmsCo]

Love the show! But I noticed you haven’t really been reacting to “bad” effects lately. I love it when y’all break down why they’re bad and what not

[@G59METH]

I think it's because the people who have worked on the movie are included in the video, it pisses me off...

[@ilikechiken2]

I agree. Having the guests on is always entertaining and they add a lot of unknown knowledge to the breakdowns, but we also need just the corridor guys sometimes so that they don’t have to be polite to the guest’s work. Because at this rate the show will need a new name or it’ll be considered clickbait

[@masamune2984]

@@G59METH That pisses you off? Get a life, kid.

[@TomWDW1]

@@ilikechiken2 EXACTLY! I've been saying this or a while now. If they wanna invite guests on to talk about their work, that's fine. But give it a different title/series. Like "CGI Artist Breaks Down His Most Epic Shots" or something. Leave the "CGI Artists React to Great and BAD Effects" videos alone.

[@haroonp8842]

I get they dont want to offend people who worked on the movie since its usually just a matter of them not having enough time but they should still go into why and effect was bad and how they would improve it

[@NRay7882]

Someone forgot to put the short ad roll right after the title. I enjoyed that moment of dark silence. But I did miss the "Dobe in this B" theme that goes with it. :D

[@videos8159]

I was already worried my internet is down again

[@NizmoGuy]

I thought that was such an awkward moment of dark silence since I needed that extra half second of visual stimulation

[@BibleStorm]

What on earth does "dobe in this B" mean?

[@NRay7882]

​@@BibleStorm I think my replies are getting deleted or flagged, so I'll just say it's a track they used a lot in previous videos. It had to do with their frustrations with Adobe software.

[@soulance8342]

@@videos8159 my anxiety-induced-thought as well.

[@feralhawg867]

Have you guys covered Mad Max: Fury Road before? I think analyzing the Storm sequence would be very cool. It’d probably be better to cover that movie on Stunt Men React, though.

[@Tmelton-bj3kf]

It kinda both

[@johnnymonsters9717]

I want to watch the flame guitar scene

[@walterpeck8187]

Look through they channel, they have most definitely

[@plantiie5919]

Needs to be a "CGI and Stuntmen React" I feel

[@bingo5387]

They definitely have done that movie, I think both on this show and stuntmen react.

[@BB-BA55akaMR-BLEGH]

We need an episode of just BAD VXF/CGI. You guys should do the hallway fight at the end of Allegiant, and the scene where John Dillinger hops over the counter at the bank heist in Public Enemies.

[@Carlos-sr4pn]

They don't do it after they sold out and got high budget film VFX artists on that couch.

[@paulburner3817]

@@Carlos-sr4pn how is that "selling out"??

[@dokanc]

@@Carlos-sr4pn Sold out? Huh I never realized getting high budget VFX artists as guests was a bad thing. Tell me more how getting guys from Weta or ILM to talk about doing Hollywood level VFX is something bad.

[@Carlos-sr4pn]

@@dokanc they don't stick to their original guns anymore. Giving their actual opinions. They praise everything now a days for the "having a professional VFX artist in the video" fame. Their opinions used to be raw and from the heart, now, I don't know what to believe.

[@c_huntermc]

Yes! We're seeing too much great CGI and not enough crappy stuff to laugh at!

[@dcbradshaw]

Inspired by Weta, it’d be great to do a “Bag End” scale challenge. One person has to do all their effects digitally while the others are doing them practically with scale props/sets, forced perspective, camera rigs etc. You could even invite back Adam Savage to help the practical team!

[@tcadityaa]

That could make for a cool series! Wish CC would try that!

[@YTho-ev1ej]

It’s so cool how Weta comes out of a small country like New Zealand and does work for some of the biggest movies in the world.

[@poolkrooni]

@@YTho-ev1ej I mean NZ isn't that small of a country, but I definitely agree!

[@hebl47]

@@poolkrooni NZ has 5 million people. It's 121st country by population. So it can quite easily be considered a small country.

[@poolkrooni]

@@hebl47 TIL! But it's also ranked 8 in prosperity and by area it's 75th out of 200. I guess, living in a smaller country myself, I've always considered NZ to be a "proper" Western country and on my travel bucket list for ages. Never considered how small it is in comparison to others, it just seems to be a country so widely known 😅

[@MrJodete23]

Missed oportunity to react to *THAT* horrible shot in Black Widow were Florence Pugh jumps of that tower and it looks like a PS3 game cutscene. The show is called 'Good and BAD CGI' after all.

[@hexagonshorts2186]

they cannot do that in front of the VFX dev himself This is why I think they should stop bringing these guests

[@thefirstbourne149]

@@hexagonshorts2186 In my honest opinion, even though it’s not a shot I call good, it’s also not the worst shot. It is just kinda lame, and to the point where you could start to tell just a little too much. It really doesn’t work, but I don’t think it’s stands out enough, either. One of the MCU’s worst VFX shots is never going to be as bad as one of the most awful effects ever. The only reason Black Panther got on there I think is because it was more of a reminder of the Wolverine body double in the first X-Men or just a reminder of some of Spider-Man 3’s body doubles.

[@thefirstbourne149]

Plus, I think there is a benefit to having these people come on. You need to see the experienced people working on it.

[@jasonblalock4429]

The one that really stood out to me was when Widow falls out the window and bounces off, like, two fire escapes on the way down before smacking the ground. It looked like a cartoon, plus it was absurd that she could survive that with no injury.

[@thefirstbourne149]

@@jasonblalock4429 Again, I don’t disagree, but it’s also just too standard for today imo. It’s not that good, but it’s not so much worse than the worst MCU CGI.

[@CameronMcCracken_Art]

I recently rewatched the Apes trilogy, it’s one of the best movie trilogies I’ve seen. From start to finish these films were so engrossing, satisfying, and incredible to watch. The storytelling is top notch and really gratifying. I’d encourage anyone who hasn’t watched these films to give them a watch, you won’t regret it. I feel like this Apes trilogy is usually overlooked or forgotten about.

[@maxhydekyle2425]

So crazily underrated. It's my second favorite trilogy after LOTR. Such an incredible journey that Caeser goes through.

[@slendertv3616]

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is my favorite film of all times!

[@goodsaint_001]

War is the only good movie in the trilogy.

[@itsd0nk]

It very closely resembles the Star Wars OT in terms of its quality across three movies. Second one was the shining tower of perfection, the third one had some even more incredible technical work than the 2nd one and still told an epic story, and the first one while still great and doing some amazing new stuff was the roughest one of the three.

[@montazownianr1]

Yeah, BTTF Trilogy, Indiana Jones (use to be), first STAR WARS... not much perfect trilogies ;)

[@PierceArner]

It's these episodes that absolutely make my whole day. There's nothing like seeing artists getting to break down their work alongside fellow artists who can help spotlight all of the effort and talent that goes into these films.

[@starlord7027]

Having just rewatched every Planet of the Apes film, I was shocked to see Corridor hadn’t reacted to any of the recent trilogy yet. So this is a major win

[@dylancole1910]

The Planet of the Apes trilogy was a masterpiece, that’s really all I have to say on that. effects, acting- everything. 😄

[@tedioustotoro4885]

I’d love to see you guys look at the VFX of Everything Everywhere All At Once, the VFX of that film is amazing and it’s crazy that the team was only seven people.

[@reisdrothepoet]

With the relatively small budget and team, it’s amazing what they were able to accomplish in that film.

[@motionblurofhappy7804]

Incredible how a small team with little money can do what they did in that film.

[@SquishypuffDave]

PLEASE get the Daniels on Corridor.

[@nc9869]

They could do stunts too with that movie

[@adamross9368]

Eagerly awaiting you guys to look at “Everything, Everywhere, All at Once” both for VFX and stunt coordinating! So much cool stuff went into the creation of that movie

[@tech-wh2qu]

There’s a movie called “A Dogs Way Home” which has some real animals put alongside some very obviously CGI animals. Would be good to see how it could be improved

[@KanyeT1306]

Man, I've been commenting for you guys to do a Planet of the Apes trilogy episode for the past three or four years now, and it's great to finally see you guys touch on it. It really didn't feel like it got the attention it deserved though. I would love to see a proper deepdive into it like Wren was suggesting.

[@evolutionx06]

I second this guy

[@wirelesmike73]

Same.

[@benr2871]

If y’all could do a full deep-dive episode on Blade Runner 2049 that’d be cool

[@WhiskyCanuck]

For anyone wondering who beat out War of the Planet of the Apes for the Oscar, that was it.

[@nostalgiajunkie]

@@WhiskyCanuck robbed

[@PNWAffliction]

bladerunner 2049 was good, really good actually, but not in the same way. and I'm all-in on cyberpunk, 100%. but the apes trilogy is on another level, dystopia-wise with the critters vfx.

[@nostalgiajunkie]

@@PNWAffliction my opinion is that movies are stories and the Camerawork, cinematography, acting, special effects are all different languages that help amplify the meaning of the story when done right. grounding the audience in the reality they’re perceiving, pushing the limits of abstract ideas or concepts, and resonating with people are all means to that end to me. Blade runner felt like a hollow treat. Did a great job on the technical side of the film, but it didn’t tell an original story outside of that or even the previous installment. It was like a train ride that showed some pretty sights and views, but didn’t take you anywhere. Dropped us off at the same spot we got on the train back when we watched the first blade runner lol

[@nostalgiajunkie]

@@PNWAffliction I mean Jared Leto had like a 5-10 minute monologue and 10 seconds after the scene was over I realized he talked the whole time without saying ANYTHING. I’d take Woody Harrelson’s antagonist any day

[@saiaveikoso9397]

Planet of the Apes trilogy is criminal underrated, and the cgi stills hold up

[@TheN0odles]

The original was groundbreaking too(for the time)

[@marshallislandsg5630]

They were good films. But IMO, they were also very forgettable. That director did much better with the new Batman.

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

How can they be underrated? They made a tonne of cash at the box office and off the back of it the director was handed the reigns to WB most prized IP. The last person given that much control over Batman was Christopher Nolan who is arguably one of the greatest directors of his generation. Given that information they would seem to be rated correctly.

[@ronpetersen2317]

@@TheN0odles But impossible to recreate the original's ground breaking nature. This triology made more sense .,. you just can't revisit that twist ending so they didn't even bother

[@sophiagonzalez7944]

Please do a breakdown of the Mission: Impossible mask reveals. There's actually a lot more to them than you would think. For instance, I'd like to see you guys break down a mask scene M:I 5 that involves a fake mirror, a second room, and a Tom Cruise double.

[@Gerox566]

can you expand on that scene pls?

[@LouisTheLewis]

Can’t wait for you guys to do Everything Everywhere All at Once for both effects and stunt choreography! Hope you have the directors and/or one of the stunt person as guest!

[@jacobcrist3080]

This guest is great, and while I would certainly say its surprising that Rise of the Planet of the Apes lost the VFX oscar to Hugo, I have to say - I can't really fault the Academy for giving the award to Interstellar and Blade Runner 2049 over Dawn and War respectively.

[@incrediblecaptain]

I prefer it when it’s just the corridor crew doing these. When the VFX directors is on here it can be nice, but it can also feel like a puff piece.

[@danielduff]

Agree. I like hearing from the actual people who worked on the movie, but they usually only cover the stuff that looks good. Hearing about vfx that is bad is just as interesting to me. Like I’d love to learn about the shots from black widow that look like garbage too.

[@2slowpoke929]

@@danielduff They put in Black Widow but they didn't even want to put in *that* part of BW that was unanimously laughed at. Iunno just drop the whole "bad" effects part at this point and make that an entirely different set of videos.

[@szinyk]

@@danielduff Yeah. Although in this one he covers a shot i actually thought looked bad in the theatre, that being the Extremis effect from Iron Man 3. Maybe a lot of work into it, but watching it at the time was like "oh iron man's fighting a glowing cgi blob guy. Snore."

[@williamreeder1080]

I think it's hard for them to do a "bad cgi" video because 1) they understand the kind of work that has to go into these shots 2) they understand that there are a variety of factors that are completely out of the vfx crew's control (time, budget, etc) that affect the outcome of a shot and 3) calling out "bad" shots can be seen as professional smack talk, even if it isn't intended that way. The Corridor crew might be doing their own thing but they're still going to be taking gigs and working with other vfx artists who will either be or know the people who worked on these shots.

[@vladikoff]

@@2slowpoke929 They didn’t put that part in because Weta didn’t do that scene

[@noahspencer720]

I feel like this show has turned more into VFX artists react to great cgi. I definitely get because you’re almost always having guests on now not wanting to critique their works to their faces, but it has made the show a little less interesting I think, feels more like a showcase for whatever effects studio is joining you that episode. I still watch every episode but I wanted to know if other people get the same way.

[@williamtimonen6814]

Yeah. And asking them ”What went wrong with this scene” would be informative to!

[@mediumvillain]

Yeah fair. You want the guests but dont want it to turn into an access game

[@mimsy1765]

100% agree. I got excited that they might do some bad cgi when i saw Black Widow in the thumbnail cuz it had horrible cgi

[@2slowpoke929]

@@mimsy1765 "hey I've never watched BW" -proceeds to react to one single scene where there's decent level cgi.

[@mimsy1765]

@@2slowpoke929 the rest of the cgi is just God awful lol

[@MrJuanno42]

It’s almost criminal that none of the ‘Planet of the Apes’ trilogies won an Oscar. Andy Serkis should have been nominated for Best actor

[@LoveMakeShareTV]

Conversely, I don't think he should have been. There are so many people who are intermediaries between his mocap performance and the performance we see on screen that I don't think it's fair to call it his performance. He would disagree with that, I think. Not to denigrate his very, very good work, but there are so many hands in Caesar that it's simply not his performance anymore.

[@charlesjmouse]

But how good is he in the slapping department?

[@sameaston9587]

So true! The Apes trilogy was probably the smartest sci-fi trilogy this past decade.

[@firstlast9846]

Personally.. I think the 3rd movie was the weakest in the trilogy - that time skip + Caesar’s family getting killed in the opening minutes and how the whole thing played out was kind of a let down for me.

[@cactusmanbwl1990]

The Last two films went against Interstellar and Bladerunner 2049. Stiff competition. Idk how Hugo won it over Rise though.

[@nilocblue]

The success of this channel is due partly to the interesting content (who knew so many people were so interested in VFX videos!) but also because the staff are actually really hilarious and entertaining. Kudos to you guys for being fun, funny and all around awesome people!

[@evolutionarytheory]

As the co-author/engineer of the priorietary pathtracer that Animal Logic uses called glimpse, I can confirm that we rendered the points as implicit spheres, not geometry. We actually added numerous custom renderer features specifically to render the complex point geometry for GOTG2. Thanks so much for the shout out Sean Walker and Corridor Crew! It's much appreciated!

[@jeffn4836]

I think it would be informative if they also brought up past “bad” work of their various guests to get perspective as to what went wrong with a particular shot.

[@williamtimonen6814]

Great idea!

[@omfgblondie]

The guests are there to promote their work, and the work of the studio. It's plausible that WETA only agrees to have their artists on if they have final approval on the episode, which means that they are not going to be cool with pointing out bad things. But I think you have a point and it would be cool if Corridor would ask "Hey, they show is called Good and BAD CGI, so it would be cool if there is something less than stellar that we can take a look at as well, if you have anything. The audience understands that this stuff is hard and it would be really informative to talk about these kinds of shots". On the other hand, I think all the VFX people that they have had on the show so far have been supervisors or some sort of higher up. And it's not cool to dunk on the work of your employees.

[@SyzygyNoon]

It’s amazing to think that, for so many years, it remains true that Wren is the excited puppy, Nico is the chill uncle, and Sam is the guy sitting at the table in the corner thinking “I heard what you said”.

[@JBrotsis1]

I would be more than happy to see y’all do a deep deep dive of the recent Apes trilogy. Just a whole episode on those movies.

[@CHRISMA52]

You guys should really check out Everything Everywhere All at Once. Amazing movie, with crazy effects all made by a small team of 5-7 people. Definitely worth checking out! Great episode again! Thank you!

[@pesterenan]

I love that Corridor Digital has became the bridge to Hollywood. So many nice and talented people come to the show to talk about their work!

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

I love it when they cover Marvel movies, it's really astounding how much work goes into the cgi in those films.

[@thiyagarajank9666]

Wherever I go I see his face

[@TBS.tudios]

marvel spits out there movies like theres no tomorrow you must be talking about when Marvel movies were good

[@Azza8808]

@@TBS.tudios the frequency or writing quality of the franchises is irrelevant here. Vfx/cgi has undoubtedly come a long way thanks to the work from the artists and studios behind these movies.

[@laxmanrawat748]

@Neo's danger yeah i remember that one

[@sethwarren4500]

@Neo's danger lol you pulled one scene from a movie made during the midst of the pandemic… while learning to get those massive shots without practical effects. is the cgi in eternals and shang chi bad? no, clearly things were learned from black widow to now

[@jakeweed1327]

Weta is incredible, but Black Widow honestly looked REAL rough. And especially for being one of the more expensive "one-off" films in the MCU was even more surprising.

[@APrettyGoodChannel]

I thought it generally looked fine except that one infamous shot of Yelena (spelling?) on top of the transport before she blew up the engine.

[@soulance8342]

It's the one marvel film I forget exists.

[@el__2handed]

The scene where Yelena says "This was fun" and is blown off of the helicopter during the climax was especially rough.

[@wibblewobbler9104]

Yeah Black Widow was not Weta's finest hour, just goes to show they are human after all :D Those apes in the 2nd and third planet of the ape movies though... my god they look so incredible.

[@jakeweed1327]

@@el__2handed that one specificaly is the one that comes to mind.

[@wiggy8912]

To quote (possibly) god: “If you do everything right, people won’t notice that you’ve done anything at all.” That’s how good the CGI was in the Apes trilogy.

[@sta_sh]

Definitely do a deep dive into Smallville, it has some of the most interesting yet janky VFX that evolve over the course of the show.

[@chloeselvey]

something that has always fascinated me is monster effects, like wolf-man transitions and real vs puppet vs cg shots. particularly that scene from an american werewolf in london or creature from the black lagoon, those kinds of old monster movies. it would be interesting to compare the old ones to the new ones or even just break down in-camera effects

[@simonfrancisphotography8856]

Great idea, seconded!

[@justinescobar9580]

Although I’ve never done VFX and still haven’t till this day, I appreciate the education you guys provide through these videos. For some people this may be entertaining but to others this amazing knowledge you guys provide. I work in the film industry and I can confidently say that you guys are the sole reason I know what I know in terms of VFX and you guys have taught to me appreciate this side Film. I always gets sad when you guys don’t release new content because it teaches me so much. Weather it be VFX, animation/cartoon or even stunts! Thank you for educating me being distant teachers. I cannot wait for what other education you guys provide. 4 years watching guys and I will never stop🤟Thank you!!

[@ViridisGames]

The energy these dudes give off is phenomenal.

[@tallulahvision2691]

I would love to see you react to some of the effects in Doctor Who. Different companies have worked on the effects over the years. I think it would be interesting to see what you think of them.

[@mattofalltrades]

I would love to see you folks talk about the practical spans visual effects of the Batman films of all generations, from the Tim Burton films, the beautiful jank of the Schumacher films, and the nearly timeless effects in Nolan’s trilogy. Thanks for the years of entertainment and education!!

[@shahs1221]

I cannot WAIT until they review Everything Everywhere All At Once! Maybe they could get the Daniels themselves on the couch!

[@unspezifische5924]

This would be such a great movie for them to review!

[@rikumajumder1558]

This is as close to a perfect trilogy I think I have ever seen. Every other trilogy has that 1 bad to average film but I feel all three of these movies are near perfect with what direction and story it wanted to tell and then told it.

[@oremstale8558]

lotr?

[@rikumajumder1558]

@@oremstale8558 Those movies came out at a time when I was too young to care about watching movies. I love that Trilogy also but it doesn't come to the top of my mind because of the time period and culture I grew up in I guess. I am also not a westerner.

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*Except for the inaccurate portrayal of Koba, the bonobo (not a chimp) who leads a mutiny. In nature, bonobos are matriarchal and resolve their conflicts using sex. Even if they get into a fight they make up quickly via sexual behavior. But the filmmakers chose Koba to behave opposite his species' nature and in the process create an image for audiences of a dark-skinned ape being violent towards a lighter-skinned ape who happens to be his alpha.* It plays a bad message to the ape called human.

[@pureskill123]

Orem might be asking which trilogy you're talking about. They bring up LOTR and Apes. You don't say which.

[@rikumajumder1558]

@@pureskill123 Apes. LOTR is a great trilogy, I accept but I listed the reasons why it doesn't immediately pop into my mind.

[@thisscreensucks]

maaaaannn, Caesar speaking for the first time by shouting NOOOOO! is one of my all time favourite scenes in movies. it gave me chills, its so moving, he just gained his intellect and he uses it to recgonize injustice and stop violence. such an amazing character. so underrated.

[@jordan.newsom]

These episodes are so well edited! Perfect amount of illustration of the points being talked about!

[@Michael-eb8nf]

Please do a deep dive on Fury Road. It's one of my favorite movies. I was blown away by how well the VFX and practical stuff were done, I still can't see where one ends and the other begins throughout almost all of that movie. I feel like you guys could do VFX Artists React and Stuntment React for it and both would have great content to explore.

[@jisellesharmaignequintao5804]

Can you do a full deep-dive on the recent Planet of the Apes trilogy separately? Each of them has gotten improved technically and technologically which makes the visual effects way ahead of their times...

[@drphalanges1520]

I so love the enthusiasm that every guest and the guys at Corridor show in every one of these videos. I can tell how much you all love your jobs.

[@SilentBob731]

Love these vids, they make me realize how much awesome stuff is going on that I totally miss while focused on the primary action. Makes re-watching quality projects even more interesting. Kudos, Corriodors (pronounced like Toreador, just made that up...as you can tell). 😉

[@SathishKumar-sk8fe]

All those CGI characters you guys mentioned in Lord of the rings (smeagull), king Kong and planet of the apes (Caesar) have another thing common, they are all played by Andy Serkis.

[@dafence_]

he is the key

[@jeremybeamer3029]

2:43 It’s got to be a badge of honour of sorts, to be a visual effects artist, and have another visual effects artist CRINGE at the thought of the amount of work you did. Really makes you feel like you nailed it!

[@dyllanrodriguez2828]

Found you guys through your collab with Mark and dude I might be a bit obsessed with this. I love this kinda stuff and have always had a sneaking interest in it all since I wanna get into animation and cartoons myself. This is like something I never knew existed but love that it does.

[@nexus3046]

Same man! Binging the whole channel for the last couple of weeks haha

[@damianspence]

I'd love to see more granular breakdowns on KZbin... The detail is a huge part of what makes this channel special

[@andrewlord8366]

I’d love to see some reactions to more Stargate scenes, specifically the gould symbiotes, they were originally practical and by season three of SG1 I believe, they became entirely cg, which looked worse in my opinion, they got a bit better in later seasons, around seasons 5-8 they started looking a lot better. Otherwise, there are many different spaceships and related effects eg; hyperspace, explosions, weapons fire, movement and visuals in sg1, Atlantis, universe and the movies that are all very different in terms of animation quality, art direction, etc. The Stargate itself has many different iterations of the look of the event horizon, wormhole travel, Stargate dhd & Stargates etc. There are many different monsters and aliens which are both practical and cg, varying in levels of quality and art direction. There are a lot of examples of differences in setwork and cities/planets art directions and miniature vs cg across all the series and movies. I would absolutely love to see an episode focusing on the Stargate series and looking at some of the defining moments/designs of the Stargate cinematic universe, there are many moments that defined and rewrote the history of cgi and shaped the childhoods of many people, if I were to be asked what my favourite universe in the history of cinema is, I would answer Stargate.

[@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547]

Definitely i would love to see a comparison between earlier and later Stargate CGI. I always noticed that season 5 of SGA looked much better then the other seasons but i could never place my finger onto it why.

[@j3sus656]

This is not a specific film or series, but I would like to hear something about digital fine-tuning of real places. When the actual shot is used and a lot of things are added to the original shot. For example, when in the new Bamtan or Gothem they added ghotic statues and old buildings in to real citie shot. Or in a game of thrones they left a lot of the original location in the shot, but added new elements.

[@v-g-lant]

you guys have inspired me so much since your very first 4 videos ive been watching you guys .....one day i hope to be apart of your team you always make your projects look easier than they really are because you have such a loyal and dedicated team all with the same ideals and high morale love u guys keep up the awesome work......you probably wont see this but itll be here

[@danielebesana5394]

First of all: thank you for another great episode! Then, I would to suggest a recent movie, which I felt like a fun well-made old-style adventure ride but completely ruined by over-invasive and over-noticeable VFX...Jungle Cruise!

[@howkel]

I've become such a fan that I'm watching within minutes of release. One of my favorite shows on any platform.

[@maodijong3661]

Its cool having on the experts but I miss the free wheeling older eps where you guys could be more honest and mock some of the bad effects.

[@2slowpoke929]

when's the last time they even tried to criticize bad effects outside of some old or indian movies?

[@maodijong3661]

@@2slowpoke929 that's what I mean. Or at the very least cast a critical eye rather than just brown nosing. It sounds bad cos I like the guys but it's nor really reacting to bad and great cgi lol

[@GO-tq6hs]

literally had one of those 2 episodes ago

[@maodijong3661]

@@GO-tq6hs which one?

[@dylanward5680]

Just Binged Severance and I could never skip the opening credits. It's so satisfying to watch and see clues about it the show. I would love to see an episode dedicated to well done CGI intros. ( Severance, Game of Thrones, Westworld, new Lord of the Rings....etc..) love every episode. Keep it up everyone!

[@colinazilla]

The 2014 film "Noah" has some downright amazing CGI throughout the film. Any scene from that movie can probably be covered.

[@QaIeb]

We need more "bad" cgi clips. There were plenty in Black widow

[@chinmaygyamlani]

Yeah

[@chasenielsen3137]

Agreed - Black Widow had some amazing VFX like the avalanche here, I'd love to see how they'd critique the scene where everyone's falling from the ship towards the end of the movie though.

[@markmckeown87]

I've not seen the movie yet, but they included a clip here in the opening that was also in the trailers, where Black Widow does a back flip and lands on a walkway in that same outdoor scene and it looks so bad, like her positioning has been manipulated to the point where it's just far too jarring.

[@Carewolf]

Most of it was just bad story boarding though

[@PNWAffliction]

@@Carewolf bad pacing too. and shoehorning in a garbo villian ;/

[@Saimeren]

If you want a bit of a breakdown of all of Tony's suits in this movie, I've got you covered. It's a bit of a read, but if you want to look any of them up, this should help. He has a suit for every occasion. He was building them because he didn't ever want to be caught off guard in a situation he can't handle. He has some that are super fast (Mark 19 Tiger, Mark 31 Piston, Mark 40 Shotgun and Mark 41 Bones) These are mainly used for high velocity traveling or fighting where he needs to get to and stay at super high speeds. There are some that have heavier physical capabilities making them a lot stronger than a normal Iron Man suit. (Punches and such) The Marks 25, 34, 35 and 38, Striker, Southpaw, Red Snapper and Igor fall into this category. He has several Stealth suits (Mark 15, 16, and 18 (Sneaky, Nightclub, and Casanova respectively) as well as Mark 27, Disco (which is known as a "Chameleon suit", and can camouflage into it's surroundings) There are several suits that put out extra power such as Blue Steel (Mark 30) which has enhanced repulsors and had more power for using those repulsors than a normal suit. There's a long distance flight suit (Mark 20, Python) which has more power supplied to it's flight boosters. Heartbreaker (Mark 17) also has advanced repulsor tech. It has an enlarged reactor core which it uses to fire massive chest beams. Tank, the Mark 24 and Romeo, the Mark 32 armor also have this feature. Tank is built to take a lot of damage and can create a repulsor shield for protection. (I'm assuming it's the same type of shield we see Tony use against Thanos' Power Stone in Infinity War.) He has several suits that can survive in space/underwater/high altitudes with extra oxygen built into the suits. (The Marks 21, and 39. Midas, and Starboost are meant for high altitudes and space, and the Mark 37, Hammerhead is meant for deep dives under the ocean. It can fully submerge itself without shorting out.) The Mark 23 (Shades) is a suit that can resist extreme heat. Striker; the Mark 25 (a construction armor), and Gamma, The Mark 26; can resist electricity as well as Gamma radiation. The Mark 28, Jack, also protects against large amounts of radiation. The one you see with the hidden blades in the wrists is called "Silver Centurion". It's the Mark 33 armor. There are more, but these are some of the Marks 6-41 that we see in the House party scene. Side note, the one that falls apart all the time; the one that Tony can control without having to be inside it; is the Mark 42 armor. It's known as Tony's "Extremis Armor" in the MCU. The Nanotech suit is Mark 85. That means that Tony has made at least 85 suits over the years. The Mark 85 was his strongest, fastest, and safest suit ever made. Also also, there have been 7 versions of the War Machine armor. The War Machine Mark 1 is just the Iron Man Mark 2. It's used only as a War Machine suit in Iron Man 2. The Mark 2 shows up for the first time as the Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3. It shows back up in Age of Ultron with it's standard back and silver paint job. The Mark 3 is used in Civil War, which was destroyed by Vision hitting the arc reactor. (Tony, I'm flying dead stick!). It's the only suit to have a baton style weapon. It's officially called a "War Hammer". The Mark 4 was used in Infinity War and was crushed when Thanos used the Space stone to crush it with Rhodey inside. It was the first War Machine suit to feature a fully collapsible helmet like Tony's and Peter's suits. (It doesn't just open up, but it collapses all the way back into the back of the suit.) In the original Infinity War script, Rhodey was going to have PTSD from his fall in Civil War and was going to pilot the suit remotely from the Avenger's Compound. It was going to get destroyed while fighting the Black Order in Scotland. He would then replace the suit with the Mark 5 for the battle of Wakanda. The script was changed so Rhodey never fights in Scotland, and they used the Mark 4 for the Wakanda battle. As a result, we never get to see the Mark 5 in any of the movies. The Mark 6 is used by Rhodey in End Game while he's travelling around the world looking for Clint and helping with problems around the world after the snap. It gets destroyed when the Avengers compound gets blown up by Thanos' gunship. (Canopy canopy canopy) It looks closer to the Marks 1-3 armors, where the 4, 5, and 7 armors are significantly more bulky and durable. And finally he has the Mark 7, which he gets into after his Mark 6 is crushed by the building. He emerges with Rocket on his shoulder after Giant Man pulls them out of the rubble of the building. It's color scheme is a lot like the Iron Patriot design. The Marks 4 and 7 are my personal favourites.

[@betlogboy3]

My guy right here.

[@sergiomartinez5946]

TL;DR Ironman has a bunch of different suits.

[@DatGrunt]

Damn that's pretty neat.

[@Dubz96]

Awesome episode boyz! I like after seeing you guys say its a pleasure having the guest there, then they reply the same by being invited 👍 love watching guys!! Woohoo vfx!

[@masamune2984]

Sean is such a great guest! Really fun energy, and a very impressive body of work🙂

[@SonnyO]

I saw Sonic 2 this week and saw some good CG, but there was some glaringly bad green screen when placing the human characters in certain scenes, as well as a big shot with Sonic. It was jarring for such a big production. I’m hoping you could break that one down.

[@xXDrunkenDragoonXx]

Maybe that’s why there wasn’t TOO many interactions between the humans and sonic characters

[@PNWAffliction]

they overuse human scenes also when its clear they're out of budget. which is why they'll never go full sonic like they should. it'd cost a fortune.

[@smilingeyes1938]

You should take a look at Moon Knight ep 5. Whoever did the facial animation, especially mouth movement, for Taweret deserves a whole bucket full of awards. They are incredibly good. Some of the most natural and organic I've ever seen.

[@chrisrichfield8906]

I literally said out loud while watching the show "the mouth and voice do not match"

[@robwhelehan]

Agreed, I especially like the times they have her ears flutter in a very hippo way but tie it to her emotions rather than have it just be random. Khonshu is pretty impressive too.

[@micahclawrence]

This was fascinating. New subscriber. Great video.

[@SilentRuth10]

You should do the '97 "Spawn" movie! The cgi on the main character was actually pretty good, but on Satan... Oof. It was like half of the cgi was done by a whole different company.

[@phalanx2117]

Have you guys ever gone over " A Scanner Darkly"? A review of the CGI would be great!!

[@41nhs]

I'm so glad someone else said this. I rewatched A Scanner Darkly recently and it blew my mind. One of the very best films ever.

[@robwhelehan]

They could include similar shows like Undone & Dream Corp LLC.

[@Quarks123]

7:40 anyone noticed the Cargo container stays intact after igor smashed through it

[@Who_Wants_My_Meat69]

7:32 That Robot teleported next to Container😂

[@rydn1618]

As a retired CFD Analyst for aircraft aerodynamics, and watching that avalanche and chopper scene blew my mind at how much computing power would be needed to simulate that scene and in fact the the WHOLE avalanche scene... Ps: Wren is basically opening his portfolio and experience at how much technical knowledge he has on par with the leaders of the VFX industry! Kudos to you my guy and everybody at Coridor Digital! Video suggestions: more fluid simulations please!

[@maxhydekyle2425]

So glad to see y'all cover the new Apes movies! They have some of the most incredible VFX ever.

[@TNTMan93]

How about the movie “Driven” from 2001 with Sylvester Stallone and Burt Reynolds, it has a very unrealistic and over dramatic crash scene

[@joetoaster447]

Is that the one where he can "turn on a dime"? That movie is so damn bad and has a lot of potential for this show.

[@dompercy]

Thanks for the black portion at the start, saw my reflection in my phone looking like a slob. Literally shaking and crying right now.

[@leninantony1424]

I opened this video through the crew's channel, I saw a video with thumbnail " This shot is iconic", then saw this video. Wren's dialogue is also "this is an iconic shot". That too really matched

[@amsrremix2239]

As a budding VFX artist I’m really happy you guys include details about cache files etc. I’m sitting in my living room like good god how big is that cache file 😂

[@TheWhiteWolf_bf2lm1]

Everyone always talks about Cesar CG, but for me, I can totally see that it's CG. But the Orangutan.. It's so next level

[@Jus_mh]

He’s one of my favorite guests🤧🔥‼️

[@althaz]

I watched those planet of the apes films twice and every time forgot they were CG. Such amazing work.

[@Woedans]

It would be really cool if you did the Norwegian film “Troll hunter”. It has some really cool troll cgi and I think it would be cool if you covered that film since it has become a bit of a cult classic.

[@robwhelehan]

Agree & have suggested before. Especially impressive as it was lower budget. Know it is technically 2 shows, but would be fun to segue to the cartoon of the same name too.

[@PuppetMasterIX]

Given Black Widow showed up, I was thinking there would be a look at the "This was fun" scene, a clear example of bad VFX.

[@vladikoff]

Weta didn’t work on that scene though.

[@matthewsager925]

Love to see y'all react to Stealth. The movie's almost old enough to legally smoke but has plenty of VFX shots that hold up pretty well!

[@michaelsnydermusic]

I’d love to see you cover the plagues in Ridley Scott’s Exodus. That’s just epic stuff. Especially the crocodile fight. And of course, the Alien Series.

[@SterlingFM]

You guys need to remove the “BAD CGI” from the title because every time you have a guest you almost never show the bad cgi shots from their movies to ask about them.

[@hitenmitsurugi3225]

It would be refreshing to see you guys react on VFX for commercials :)

[@shakhryveliieva8003]

I rewatched King Kong the other day, and realised how visually impressing it is for it's time! Please cover it!

[@wait_who_is_this]

Please do "Everything everywhere all at once". It has some pretty cool shots

[@BucketOfMarbles]

Hey Corridor Crew, question: What do films do with the digital assets after a film is released?

[@mityakiselev]

they lie still

[@caracal429]

I know this isn’t a thing to react to, but I think it would be incredible if Corridor could do their “we made x r-rated” on A Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Restoring the original R rating of the Dollars trilogy would be the coolest thing ever.

[@chris_1988]

As always a great deep-dive into the actual logistics of getting these movies put together. I've been wondering though, why are the voices in some episodes kinda difficult to understand? Especially Sean's audio had this weird, bass-y droning that sounded like he was talking into a trash can or something like that. I've noticed it a couple of times in the past, but not in every episode. I'm watching these episodes on a fairly cheap monitor with built-in speakers, so maybe it sounds better on high end devices, but I don't experience these issues with any other KZbin videos.

[@paulkkri]

Wow, I never ever thought I would see my place of work in one of your videos!!! At 11:42 there is the avalanche we had some years back. I sit in the green building at this very moment! That was an awesome surprise this fine morning. We are a mining company in Norway at a place called Stjernøy, we trigger avalanches every year.

[@paulkkri]

I have the rest of the video on my channel btw.

[@adamscott594]

With modern marvel movies i feel like the actors always feel disconnected from the background. I miss the days when cg would enhance a practical background but now everything is straight up fillmed on blue/green screen.

[@unspezifische5924]

This was especially evident (to me) in Civil War, Infinity War, and End Game.

[@cmd0113]

@@unspezifische5924 Me and my friends call it the floating head syndrome

[@blowc1612]

BS as i guarantee you don't even know when it's practical and when it's cgi.

[@mikehodgetts4326]

I think the evolution and use of the Volume is slowly changing that back now. Look at the cinematography of The Batman for example, some of those shots are incredible and just wouldn't have been as good if done on a bluescreen.

[@blowc1612]

@@cmd0113 yeah you're BS that'd not original nor you most likely don't even understand where and how the term came to he.