VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 79

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[@fireflynovember]

I honestly think John Berton is my favourite guest out of everyone you've had on, he's wonderful!

[@euansmith3699]

He's got some stiff competition, but, I think, that I agree.

[@HamuraiJack]

Totally agree. This guy rules.

[@RetrogradedTunes]

I agree!

[@jordanbridges]

Superstore chill

[@TheBlind0825]

They all have great and interesting experiences/etc but yea, I think John is my favorite.

[@goofyjuice]

John is such a cool guy, super genuine and is really passionate about what he talks about!

[@sona5704]

And knows his stuff. What makes a movie look good.

[@Alex-kd5xc]

He was such a trooper when they talked about the scorpion king. It was kind of nice to at least give him a platform to provide an explanation for that on top of all the other amazing things he’s worked on.

[@kalogio]

The episodes with him on are very insightful

[@vdochev]

The man is a legend. Simple as that.

[@nateshattuck1512]

He's probably one of my all time favorite guests!

[@dinkleburgerz]

This is hands down the BEST guest we’ve seen on this show. His experience tied with how amazing his speaking is…such a good episode. Real passion about what they do!! Respects

[@TankTaur]

100% agree

[@bentimms3401]

I love John so much, you can so clearly tell he’s so passionate and loves what he’s talking about and he seems like such a fun and kind guy!

[@SpacemanBandOfficial]

John is the man. So warm and upbeat but still so technically wise with a huge wealth of experience.

[@nathano2778]

John burton is pretty good too

[@spetcnaz83]

John should teach visual effects classes, if he isn't already. He has that calm, and clear, yet passionate way of explaining what is going on.

[@AguilarSquared]

He should be in of those Masterclass courses!!

[@cardiffst]

As much as I enjoy the cgi stuff, I *love* when you dissect some old effects. It’s just so impressive.

[@MiddleAgedBob]

I will never cease to be amazed at how good some visual effects were before CGI. That handshake is insane.

[@ragzzytv]

John is just amazing. I could just just watch him geek out VFX all day.

[@booster247]

I honestly feel John is one of the best guests you've ever had. His passion for the craft, depth of knowledge and wealth of experience make him an invaluable source to draw upon, and it's wonderful to see him devoting the time to come and share what he has accumulated with the rest of us.

[@caifasvaca9451]

I KNEW I had seen him in Men in Black somewhere!! He definitively does have the alien vibe… awesome. Great guy, very insightful!

[@dizydeus]

I recognized him in the first episode and thought Corridor guys already knew he had a scene in the MIB, his face is pretty recognizable haha

[@GuinessHangover]

Gotta be honest, since the first time I watched it 20 years ago to now, I genuinely thought John's character in the post office was an animatronic made specifically to look like a "weird" human...

[@morganseppy5180]

His look is so unique. He reminded me of that famous Neanderthal man model that was all over the news years ago. His large ears, blue eyes and thin red hair--he could be one walking among us. (Not an insult!)

[@lowgrs1]

I love John Berton. His wisdom and experience are unparalleled.

[@acedeadic8308]

Everything, Everywhere, All At Once should be reacted to definitely. For having a low budget compared to many other movies, it was able to achieve so much with their combination of computer and practical effects. Also, LEGEND - A DRAGON BALL TALE is an amazing fan animation that can show what can be created by dedicated fans for animators react.

[@dashkataey1740]

This, but also a stuntman react to EEAAO.

[@minhuang8848]

@@dashkataey1740 instant demonetization lol

[@danielmashanic5738]

Completely agree. Honestly they could probably do a whole episode on both the visual effects and stunts. Would love to see it!

[@berghwilliam]

I came here to say this

[@Asiagobeans]

This… so much this everything everywhere all at once would be such a fun react!

[@namco003]

12:08 this has become one of my favorite behind the scenes stories. Basically, we don't want you to use visual effects, we need you to be a visual effect

[@gr6e]

And then they go and do it without any visual effects

[@TheDonutMan3000]

John looks like he’s been drawn by Felix Colgrave, who incidentally would make a great guest on animator reacts. If you manage to lure him out of his cave

[@gurrenrodan3801]

Some Felix Colgrave animations would also be great CONTENT to react to on one of those episodes.

[@TheDonutMan3000]

@@gurrenrodan3801 that’s exactly why I want him on the show

[@NickOwens]

not only luring him out of his cave, but paying for his flight out to the United States

[@romantisizingdemons85]

First time I've seen Felix colgrave mentioned in the wild! His art is my favorite thing to binge every few weeks and is some of the best .. well... ART I've ever seen

[@mattkidroske]

The knowledge and expertise this guy brings is awesome, but what I really appreciate is his sense of humor

[@MegaCrocosaurus92]

Another small detail I love about Mikey in Men In Black: when he roars into the camera, the background plate adjusts focus as if that CGI model is a real thing and the camera guy has to keep it's face in focus.

[@LunarEclipsism1]

Reminds me of my favorite tiny detail in Jurassic Park, when the T-rex first breaks out of the paddock and steps out in a full CGI shot that shows the entire dinosaur for the first time. As the T-Rex steps up and out where the fence is broken, it rears up a little "too far" and the camera has to subtly tilt up to follow it and keep it in frame, as if an actual animal did something unexpected and the cameraman had to adjust in response. Of course the reality is that things had to be planned in the opposite sequence of events, but it goes such a long way in subconsciously convincing your brain that the character is "real" regardless of how rendering and shaders and "detail" has improved in the years since it was released.

[@MasDouc]

Really cool detail, little things like that go such a long way in adding realism to the composition

[@HoboGaming]

Y'all should react to the evolution of Godzilla movies over the decades. It's a great example of the progression of VFX over time.

[@jackychang9148]

That's a really good idea. Over the course of generations, we see the upgrades of the suitmation and the blending of environments. As well as the different energy attacks on the actors and buildings.

[@jasonblalock4429]

The VFX in Shin Godzilla are really impressive. I honestly thought they used some kind of puppet in at least some of the shots, but no, iirc it was all CGI.

[@DavidDM59]

good idea

[@Goldenkitten1]

Comparing the original Gojira, The Return of Gojira (1984) and Shin Gojira would be an excellent episode. They're three distinct films from three distinct periods. Gojira is the grandfather of such effects, 1984 was a turning point for their ability to articulate and Shin Gojira was the first film to be truly modern (not counting the American Godzilla films, but those were big-budget CGI fests so not as interesting to delve into how they did it).

[@shantanumisra7714]

This comment needs to be up top

[@mikeanco]

This is honestly one of the best long running series on KZbin, I've learnt so much and appreciate films so much more thanks to this show and the understanding it gives me

[@cable7152]

John is one of the best guests ever, please have him back as much as you can, he is a genuine wealth of knowledge and is just a really sweet cool guy.

[@yerwol]

12:15 - I knew I recognised this guy!!!! Absolutely amazing insights. Hopefully can hear more from him soon!

[@joeydestructo]

I was wondering last episode why he looked so familiar, now I know!

[@NaughtyShepherd]

@@joeydestructo same! It’s been in the back of my mind since then. One less thing I’m confused about… 😂

[@Sweeney541]

Same! He looked SO familiar to me, but I couldn't place him.

[@TheRealAlpha2]

He must have a super memorable look because I thought the exact same thing last episode.

[@Mattened]

Same. I knew i'd seen him before somewhere

[@cloth56]

John's insight is incredible, no doubt. But I have to admit that the first time they had him on and I saw the thumbnail my FIRST thought was "that's the guy from Men in Black 2!!!" And that's saying something because I've watched that movie exactly one time haha

[@_Moe]

This isnt reaction content, this is straight up educational content. I'm fascinated!

[@alexstarr1589]

Loved seeing John on! I've noticed a trend with a lot of these experts in their craft. First, they understand how their job fits into the whole. They don't focus purely on the technical details, but they understand that the purpose of VFK is to help tell the story. E.g. John loved that Will Smith would improv and they accounted for that in how they shot his scenes, rather than him being annoyed that he has to adjust the plan. Second, these experts recognize there is no cookie-cutter way to do anything. You'll often hear "it depends", it's a bit of a meme but experts understand exactly what should guide the use of one technique vs another and you can only get that with experience.

[@pesterenan]

That scene! THAT SCENE IS WHY JOHN FELT SO FAMILIAR TO ME!!! Hahahahah oh my god that is incredible! He is such an awesome guy! I hope we see more of him here! He is super smart!

[@ethai1]

I'd love to see you guys react to: -Fight Club. This film has some impressive CGI shots. I especially love the intro! - Spiderman 1 (2002) -Spiderman 3 (2007) - the sandman and venom effects. It'd be interesting to compare it to Venom from 2018 and 2021. - Silent Hill (2006) - the otherworld transitions, the monsters designs are impressive, and the part where Dark Alessa "Integrates" herself into Rose is also very cool. -Stranger Things - they have such great vfx shots! especially in season 4. Also, in Season 4, they have a very impressive one shot shooting scene. It'd be cool to see you analyze it.

[@tadeasburger8191]

Did Venom even have an effect in Spiderman 3? They just used the actors face, didn't they?

[@ethai1]

@@tadeasburger8191 The shots where the vines move and make up venom's face/reveal eddie's face are kinda cool, plus the shots where peter rips it off and then it goes to eddy. The whole "goo" effects look impressive for 2007 imo.

[@daredevil6145]

yes Venom had that *chaplyakk-chaplyakk* effect -- Visual and in Sound

[@androognoix1685]

Raimi trilogy has awful cgi

[@MiniSquatch785]

Kill a do

[@dwiz_9336]

I love that this unsung hero is getting recognition on here, there are so many people like him that have impacted the industry in huge ways that no one has ever heard of... love what you guys are doing. Keep it up Corridor!

[@helplmchoking]

holy crap I love this guy! Not only are the 2 MIB films absolute classics and some of my favourite in terms of artistic direction and the VFX -- it all just works, there are no real rough moments and it holds up even 20 years on. Same with iRobot, actually. But he also seems like a super cool dude, really passionate and really seems to approach things as part artist an part engineer/technician. Like he has such a strong '90's ILM' vibe, when they were the absolute kings of VFX so good you didn't question what was real and what wasn't but not chasing hyperrealism like we have now so they let all the art come through. Definitely strong similarities to Adam Savage honestly. And I love the stories about the CGI Supervisor ending up running around a set in an alien costume for reference footage, or being "volunteered" to be the alien in MIIB even as the VFX supervisor

[@mikekohary1075]

John is awesome, and I love when you guys go over old pre-CGI effects. So awesome to see the creativity and craftsmanship that went into these amazing shots.

[@Juniversal]

I've been thinking forever they should have a series or episodes dedicated to practical effects and animatronics. It is truly a lost artform. Some of the most magical and mind blowing effects were animatronic or makeup fx predating CGI.

[@algotskog3577]

John is the perfect guest! You should bring him back again as soon as possible

[@joegee2815]

"You can not act a shock wave" so profound. Great video again guys.

[@MasDouc]

That shit was so cringy

[@Incubus2001]

I've seen Berton in so many Behind the Scenes feature on DVDs and it's amazing that you have him on your show. There is a lot we can learn from him and he seems like he'd be a perfect teacher.

[@RayPlaysGameswithPals]

John is a real treat to have on the show! Thanks for the amazing breakdowns and insights!

[@marcelosantos5683]

That "the effects have to interact with the real thing" remembered me of when they have people in suits like Rhino or Bruce Banner in the Iron Man suit; the cutout and lighting might be awesome, but there's no interaction between the head and the armor

[@Tclans]

John is an absolute gem of a person with such great knowledge. That ending sentence resonated with me, having watched Prey (the new Predator installment) yesterday, that comment thicked all the boxes. In my opinion that movied did just that. Also a good movie to scrutinize the VFX and practical effects.

[@Jogwheel]

Yay! Seems like everything is getting restored from your "hack" attack. Glad to see you were able to get it all sorted. 👍

[@adamplace1414]

So glad that John is back, he was one of my favorite guests you've had on the couch. Great insights!

[@jackychang9148]

Attempt 49 Chronicle Telekinesis Scenes

[@InnerToast]

wow congrats on first comment

[@michon96]

Bro its been a while! Up!!

[@ColinHadaway]

Keep up the great work!

[@rubenmanssens]

They already reacted to chronicle

[@mf--]

@@rubenmanssens By "attempt" I think he means for the Still Watching Netflix Punch for Punch.

[@robertocalcetas6263]

I've been loving John episodes, please bring him back, i like when the guests share their thoughts on combining practical and digital but John has a great understanding of this concepts and he is really good explaining and sharing them

[@plume...]

I love Wills performance in MIB, absolutely slaps.

[@kaelthunderhoof5619]

John Berton is like your kind teacher who slows down the explanation for the class.

[@ajourneyb4destination558]

Notice how all older effects artists always just never stop reiterating using practical to fill in cgi shots. Iron bar, net and so forth to sell the scene and minimize The Jank. Yes you guys gotta have him back!

[@Tvboy777]

Super relaxed chill person combined with tons of knowledge and insight makes for such a great guest. Loved it!!

[@thesadwolf]

I love the old effects. There's just so much commitment in getting it correct in camera. Watching how computer FX can be done is still interesting but I seriously love the hands on, tangible effects of yesteryear.

[@agustinascanio804]

How amazing and sweet personality John has, he need to be in more episodes! The way he explain things with all the passion of his craft is endearing and very motivating.

[@KennethDavis]

I’m so glad John is back. He’s been my favorite guest so far. It’s not just his amazing wealth of experience talent and knowledge - but his outlook and attitude are 💯🙌🌞

[@ThePixelatedPixels]

On reflection, the amount of quality VFX that the Corridor Crew achieve on their very limited budget is incredible. Just picture the scale of stuff they could do if they had a blockbuster budget. Just millions and millions thrown at them to kick out the best stuff it’d be mind blowing, they’d blow it out the water🤯

[@1ambad]

13:20 "so much work for a shot" I agree but this scene literally stuck with me forever. I knew I recognized John from something when I saw him in your previous VFX react and when I saw this MIB scene it all came back lol. legend!

[@ellac.1547]

John always brings a lot of great insight, it’s great to see him on the show again! I’d love to see you guys react to - The Fly (1986) - The Fly 2 (1989) - 2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984) Or - A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge

[@HTS_Editor_Jack]

Do Mork’s “Bully Maguire” videos next. They actually have a surprising amount of production quality. (They are also some of the funniest videos on the internet in my opinion.)

[@dahmanmc]

UPP

[@IantheDugan]

If going to Mork (love), go to “Alternative Cuts” for their latest videos

[@Rck-vert]

Those videos lowkey ain’t about production quality, more like “humor” so it’d be a waste of time

[@pablosoro8926]

probably the worst recommendation possible

[@HTS_Editor_Jack]

@@pablosoro8926 May I ask why you believe that? April 1st is only 238 days away, now would be the perfect time to record a video in advance!

[@AbelDuviant]

Honestly love John. He's a joy to hear talk about this stuff.

[@JayFolipurba]

I adore these old filmmaking tricks. They were so creative! There was a vision and problem solving, so good, that you can't see how they did it. Today, we use the same tricks, but they're all buttons in the software

[@gamerkingdom1442]

It’s incredible seeing these old movies and how they solved these problems, without modern tech! It always shows how creative they were!!

[@SirSeabass]

Just saw "Nope" last week and read an article talking about the rig they used to film day for night. I could have SWORN they filmed at night. Was wondering if you guys had any insights or thoughts? I think day for night usually looks like crap, but they REALLY made it work.

[@kylespevak6781]

Surprisingly a lot of night shots are filmed at day, or at least with more light than you think

[@SirSeabass]

@@kylespevak6781 for sure, but usually big sweeping shots like in Nope are noticably day for night. Nope really took it to the next level.

[@cckonettaxptor611]

I would love a whole day-for-night episode!

[@SirSeabass]

@@cckonettaxptor611 same

[@DarthFerder]

@@kylespevak6781 one of the most noticable instances is Life of Brian, the „Romans go Home“ graffiti scene. They darkened an incredibly bright day shot. You see hyper crisp shadows and clouds.

[@philopharynx7910]

I love when different types of effects people do such great work together. Rick Baker is legendary. He's done such amazing work. When Berton makes something that balances and augments it, it's truly a melding of different art.

[@SynchronizorVideos]

John is amazing. I really hope you have more content with him recorded and/or planned.

[@patrickaubichon]

absolutely thrilled to have this epic man on your channel. have him back.

[@Alex-mp4kl]

John Berton Jr. brought the knowledge, and the passion, this was a great video. Shout out to his acting career, that's a hell of a story.

[@TheUncleDolanShow]

I love when the guests are able to match the energy and passion you guys have. Good wholesome stuff.

[@seollenda]

John is such a pleasure to have on the show!

[@isaiahshemaiahbrown]

Glad y’all brought the OG back!!

[@jscott4reel]

Feels like we need an episode dedicated to “The Guy in the Suit” now. So cool.

[@dubbingsync]

If you can find it I recommend the documentary Men in Suits that delves into the history of suit actors.

[@dubbingsync]

If you can find it I recommend the documentary Men in Suits that delves into the history of suit actors.

[@jscott4reel]

@@dubbingsync Sweet. I’ll look into it. Thanks!

[@evdokmv]

Can't get enough of the episodes with such guests! 🔥

[@petirgarda1005]

Definitely my MOST favorite couch guest of them all. So chill, so full of wisdom. More of him as the guest please! his voice and delivery is therapeutic.

[@maxulic]

You can feel the passion , it makes his stories so much exciting.

[@coryhorton5837]

It’s hard to describe, but John has become my favorite guest for some reason.

[@DepletedWisdom]

I think Wren is a great interviewer. His excitement feels genuine and you can tell it is contagious with the guest. It seems to lead the guest to be more open and want to talk about what they love doing.

[@tearstoneactual9773]

John's a great guest, so glad he was back so soon. Looking forward to more from him. You guys have just been killing it lately.

[@Wakapedia]

John is my absolute favourite! Sooooo genuine and loves what he does!

[@CF333.]

Great video as always, keep up the amazing work!

[@lawrencewoods3435]

So glad he came back! Love this guy.

[@mindmachinepsy]

It's always awesome to see the people, who have brought the movies come to live, that i have watched 10-20 years ago. And seeing how passionate these people are, especially john just makes those movies even more awesome. I love to see them just geek out over this stuff

[@l.i.t.f.4353]

Best series on KZbin hands down

[@Bobisalive]

Just finished watching punch4punch, so so good!

[@HYTTFilms]

this is by far the best, most genuine guest you've had on the show. Hope to see John back!

[@chefcinnabutter]

You guys have such a talent for finding guests that are so passionate about their field. Even if John is very soft spoken, you can tell how much he cares about his job, and it makes everything he says so interesting.

[@adamsbja]

Something else I noticed with the transition to puppets at 4:45 is that they're both tired and she's hanging off of him. That makes the change to stop-motion jutteriness look more like fatigue than animation limitations.

[@Joe___R]

It would be incredible if you could get James Cameron on a VFX artists react & have it as a full hour long episode on KZbin. He has personally pushed computer graphics much further than any other director has.

[@saber-jocky3436]

Has he though? Seems to me, most of his iconic stuff came from ILM, which was a passion project of one George Lucas, the director to push the visual effects industry the most.

[@bibbisbibbis]

Wow FANTASTIC episode! Berton was a great guest with so much to talk about!

[@t3hjnz]

This was probably my favourite VFX Artists React to date. What a generous guest Berton was.

[@Hypnotech3]

Perfect timing. 2am, was just about to go to bed. This is normally my Sunday morning coffee watch.

[@pgc6290]

So isnt it bad timing then? You were anyway going to go to sleep. (But now you are unnecessarily staying awake) And now you dont have anything to watch on (your) Sunday morning too.

[@logandraper]

John might be my favorite recurring guest. He has so much to say

[@powerofanime1]

Always a delight to see Mr. Berton again.

[@aidorrocks]

john is a brilliant guest. an absolute pro, full of great information & a really nice guy. really hope to see him on again. keep up the great work!

[@DEtechtube]

John seems to be such a nice guy.

[@Sacrificeofsinners]

The City of Lost Children!!! This whole movie is visually stunning. Very hard movie to find. Has Ron Perlman in it. If you guys like crazy visuals and practical FX, This movie has it all. Not to mention a great story. Very trippy.

[@robwhelehan]

Agreed. Along in the same vein Brotherhood of the Wolf for this and Stuntpeople React.

[@Version0111]

The second head on Johnny Knoxville is how I always imagined Zaphod Beeblebrox's second head worked.

[@bubbaegr]

I look forward to seeing these every week

[@donaldwatson6863]

I feel like they need to do a super episode, have John on, Adam, etc just pull in a ton of hosts and have a video of them reviewing stuff.

[@plutostudios1417]

please have a huge episode on Everything Everywhere All At Once! i’ll pay to watch a full-length version on the website!!

[@Qwerty-zj3rk]

I love this guest. He’s so chill!

[@DRKeerl]

I absolutely love these breakdowns of older movies

[@snekofpresent4753]

Hey you should look at the cgi in Overlord 2018, both the Beginning scenes with the Planes and the scene close at end when they blow up the tower.

[@RDR911]

I appreciate the sponsor countdown, and also using the same guy every time. I don’t even know his name, but I know to skip anything I see with him. Perfect!

[@I3eAsTzWorldGlobal]

@@priyeshpv that's a fucked up thing to say.. he's a human being with a job to do not a puppet. The timer is there to skip the ad to the right point to stop people like you complaining over literally nothing it shouldn't bother you

[@mikelynch920]

I love John. What a great guest. The early visual effects reactions are always fun, too.

[@RamiFive4Five]

This guy is a lengend and speaks legend every time he does. I'm relly happy you guys bring the artists who shaped cinema and give them the love they deserve.

[@spamsfilms]

The love for John is real in the comments

[@OfficialIrysh]

Y'all may have already checked this one out, but if not, I'd love to see Real Steel on this series cause I always thought those humongous robots looked amazing. 👌

[@clayaderhold]

i love going back to old episodes it helps me look up valuable information i mightve missed, plus this is very entertaining ngl

[@ShiningEyeBrigade]

Loved Mr. Breton, all his knowledge, and his straight ahead, low key and humble demeanor.