VGBC's Salty Suite - PC Chris (Fox, Falco) Vs. Liquid Ken (Marth) SSBM - Super Smash Bros. Melee

[@Trance_Kitsune]

Their responses to each other before the set starts is the most professional thing I have ever heard from any Smash Bros. player. They're perfect role models for the community and you can tell they are true veterans.

[@Tmathh]

so true

[@zerocen6930]

What suprises me more was back in the day the rivalry between west and east coast was pretty fierce if you look back on the documentary everything seemed like a super hard battle for west V east. Also everyone was disrespectful. I expected them to be cool but i think i respect them a lot after this match

[@Trance_Kitsune]

I'm appearing on twitter too? Whoa~ Neat! :3

[@jarrenbenin7553]

#respectyourelders

[@7upjawa]

Hey Kitsune :)

[@BlazeArceus777]

Not. One. Ken. Combo.

[@Jimmy-fu3lq]

The crowd would've lost their shit

[@stillalive4513]

they can be hard to pull off

[@LukeMM95]

SgtSkarmory But, but...he's Ken.

[@stillalive4513]

LukeMM95 it's not like you can pull them off 24/7, you don't see ken combos in every melee match ever played, they're extremely situationally based. also, PC was playing really well

[@LukeMM95]

SgtSkarmory I'm well aware of how difficult they can be (I'm a Marth player). My comment was tongue-in-cheek.

[@NinteddyRose]

I love how ken went for the counters for nostalgia's sake. This is honestly the greatest satly suite match in the history of the salty suite

[@yuriricarte.9780]

naaah... prof pro vs rolex still the 1st

[@stormsonicspeed1]

+Yuri Ricarte. Mah b

[@brendanlucas1920]

+Yuri Ricarte. I gotta take a sip

[@yuriricarte.9780]

"THIS GUY IS A GOD"

[@NinteddyRose]

Yuri Ricarte. Prof vs rolex is definitely not the best. Kage and Biz was more hype than that. Leffen Vs Chillin literally had apex at its height for views, Then there was hbox vs leffen in apex 2014. Yeh, prof and rolex is pretty far down the list.

[@shiv604]

"pc you do look hella good" lmfao scar

[@OfDaSouth]

I had to just look away from my computer for a few seconds to compose myself when he said that. I was laughing so hard I couldn't understand what everyone was saying lmao

[@redoxantidox1320]

hahhhahah!!!!!!!!!!That was exactly what i was thinking ***** hahahah that sucks xD

[@999a0s]

***** *10 seconds of silence*

[@JorgetheLuchadore]

+shiv sixohfor It's because he's wearing a SCARf

[@StanTheBlueYoshi69]

+shiv sixohfor I wish Someone said "I'm a good bad infulence on you*

[@johnnyd0513]

Marth counters? Side B? Missy Elliot on Superbowl? Gas 2 dollars? WHAT YEAR IS IT?

[@Playeressence]

2001 it seems

[@ZooPact]

Wait wait! And French Toast Crunch, Surge, and Crispy M&M's. We must of hit a Time Machine...

[@BrokenG-String]

I fucking love this comment.

[@XCWARRIOR91]

20XX

[@EvilX24]

200X

[@Cofi_SL]

and husband and wife to commentate yes

[@awesomeastraman]

20:22 The world didn't know what would change time with that statement.

[@allorange3777]

"respect your elders"

[@giantclaw138]

@@allorange3777 It's gonna be 5-0

[@mrm64]

LOL Ken's face said it all too. He knew Chillin was gonna die XD

[@t-mofisher8922]

That crowd surf definitely solidified PC's place as my favorite old school player

[@Virum_SD]

The year is 200X

[@deltatin2758]

Yes

[@martin-pe9kx]

20XX*

[@mr._otis9840]

@@martin-pe9kx uhhhhhh

[@Jabeke49]

Mr._Otis don’t tell him

[@mr._otis9840]

@@Jabeke49 okie

[@genevaconventionsviolator3994]

after all of these years, PC Chris still has no idea how to sweetspot

[@SillyKiwiFtaghn]

that's why Ken does so much charged B on edgeguard, he knows his old foe

[@mrm64]

20:22 LMAO....Ken knew how it was gonna go down, you can see that grin he has....poor Chillin...

[@The_DGO]

the interesting thing about these retired veterans is they do weirder shit than mang0 and it works. just gives you an idea of how good these people have gotten at reading their opponent

[@phil_matic]

PC's Combo starting at 11:19 was one of the coolest things I have seen.

[@AtomicMonkeybutt]

You dont see stuff like that anymore, that's for sure.

[@powerslam60]

out of curiosity why don't we see these sort of combos anymore?

[@Flarf18]

people are better at DIing and teching

[@MrFrankyGification]

Yea most top level players would DI away from a lot of that stuff or catch the tech when they hit the ground.

[@MyAce8]

another thing is he opts jab resets where most people shine, and people don't like to combo into down smash. That being said mango sometimes does both of those things

[@Pekko_]

Have PcChris vs Milktea as a salty sweet

[@PaulGLarsson]

Lmao

[@Pekko_]

lol

[@hc661]

JESUS CHRIST LMFAO

[@125conman]

haha. did they have a rough break up or something?

[@ssbmslurppp1781]

Connor Knipes no

[@zackgordon3068]

The crowd erupting when PC chooses Falco..gives me chills every time. Great to see a legend like him back in the game.

[@SleepingWithGaming]

PC LOOKS THE EXACT SAME, HE NEVER AGES

[@udet2158]

When PC Chris said "I'm gonna speak with my fingers", I thought he was gonna flip him off lmao.

[@dennisdeez123]

Is Ken taking tips from Zero...? Not in Gameplay but rather in fashion *the scarf*

[@wonnie]

This is the epitome of the Salty Suite. The SS matches that I wanted to watch were disappointing because of how one sided they were. With Axe having a solid victory over Silent Wolf (3-1), Westballz destroying Colbol (3-0), Kage not even showing up because of his illness (get well soon) and then Bizzaro just destroying his replacement, and Leffen absolutely demolishing Chillin... this truly kept me at the edge of my seat! Old school Melee is still exciting. 20XX is cool and stuff with all this new tech that we're figuring out like pivot ledge grabbing or other shenanigans (which are mad hype too), but this was a really exciting match.

[@sebastiananzures7398]

This was set was more like the Sweet Suite

[@ceppy3431]

+XAlphaZEROX well at the very least bizzaro got his ass whooped by kage after that trash talk

[@Matthew.Morcos]

You can't describe Leffen vs Chillin as disappointing. Leffen puts on a show the entire time. It's one of my favourite sets all time.

[@Dekonic]

6:25 The Falco chants. I watched these guys in their prime and it just made me goosebump up. Jesus what a beautiful set.

[@chrispham6599]

This is so 2006

[@zachc1245]

That was too good really brings back old memories. Those 2 arguably started it all

[@Fro00ot0]

Azen tho?

[@hotdogger2163]

Joe Bellino No one knows what azen does anymore. What would isai do

[@crono3833]

Leffens Waifu Chudat

[@Bowserslave]

2:00 If they went to Rainbow Cruise or Mute City this would've made an already great match even better. That would've been sick.

[@LukeMM95]

Bowserslave It would have been funny if they went to Poke Floats.

[@MarcusFenixKO]

I love how classic this really is

[@douggieharrison6913]

crazy how this was nostalgic SEVEN years ago lmao

[@rat4992]

9:48 Top 10 Cutest Moments in Melee EDIT: this clip makes me laugh every time

[@zonx27]

We just went back 9 years (10 now). This is fucking great.

[@georgewashingtoniv8745]

That was probably one of the coolest things anyone could have done for Smash, Ken and PC, then a crowd surf. Epic. Ken and PC old school gods definitely.

[@stoothemighty]

ahhhh now this is old school. i love how you can see pc chris improving as he plays

[@archivelibrarian6818]

this is the smash equivalent to fan service

[@Khoas132]

"I'm gonna talk with my fingers." OOOOOOH MYYYYYYYY

[@mulvi747]

9:39 - PC with old school combo! That smile at the end. Even he knew how much he was styling.

[@frizzman1991]

This is the most heartwarming Smash match I've seen in a long time. I love both of these guys for what they represent to the community and how they played this out years after the rivalry dissolved. 11/10

[@Obesepelican]

That guy was on survivor!

[@chickennuggies5098]

You do know who Ken is, right?

[@Obesepelican]

+Ben Cornell yes

[@chickennuggies5098]

Callum Hening ok, just sounded like you had no idea who the king of smash was

[@AtomicMonkeybutt]

Ken was in a tv show called survivor once too

[@TheLovemusic101]

Watching this in 2020 makes me emotional

[@StevieD1x]

Same

[@Senbaek]

Inb4 PC Chris wins Evo2016

[@MikiziB]

Nah, Hbox did.

[@MikiziB]

Hawk Neucidant don't bother, just ignore him.

[@neucetnt8410]

+MikiziB lol k

[@skullo5557]

Hanea Flijty hahah Hbox won!

[@lucaskincanyon7393]

Sephiroth Ken... I haven’t heard that in a long time.

[@nebulagx4176]

Most hype set at apex imo

[@Tselel]

This was my favorite match from the Suite. Phenomenal old school play and genuine respect.

[@georgedegroot1445]

This makes me so happy. Ken vs PC and Wife is commentating

[@TooThiKK]

Husband and Wife!

[@EvilApple567]

Man, after rewatching a lot of these Salty Suite's and Top 8 matches, I have to say I think Apex 2015 was the best Melee tournament of all time. The Apex of Melee if you will (but you won't).

[@electronerd0]

Always a pleasure to see the king of smash play, shame he doesn't as much anymore.

[@spaghettiking7312]

My god, PC and Ken are soooooo chill.

[@SolidSkewt]

why does this set look so different from what im used to today its weird. They think about there opponents movements more then trying to be quick around the map.

[@Panning72]

Ya I enjoy it too cause it's a little easier for me to see their brains moving compared to top players today.

[@HieronymousLex]

Because the game has gotten more optimized, simply put, players are playing on a higher level now because the meta has been pushed there

[@HieronymousLex]

And if you’re insinuating that nowadays players just fly around the map to look flashy instead of actually fighting, you have no idea what you’re talking about or what you’re seeing

[@queuedjar4578]

Players nowadays do think about their opponents movements, just with ledge dashing, wave dashing, wave landing, moonwalking, l cancelling, and all sorts of other crazy tech mixed in that players didn't really know about or think about using as much back then.

[@lewissteward65]

@@queuedjar4578 they did just didn’t use them

[@Raven-gx4kj]

That crowd surf was awesome

[@TheLOAFSquad]

My favorite match of the whole APEX 2015. Loved seeing the old school styles.

[@mrmarvelmilitant]

PC wins with his falco rather than his fox? even though he's gearing towards fox nowadays? LOL thats how u know, thats how u know

[@williamgrand9724]

Ive watched this fight like 3 times now, so good! I hope this is the return of PC.

[@Segastar1]

Love watching these old two players play, yes its not top level play, but you can still tell they got moves and knowledge. Along with the commentators who were also old school players, it all comes together for what is still to this day a pretty entertaining match

[@jasonvargo5435]

Man, husband and wife have such soothing commentary, so clean

[@Garethaxz]

"I'm going to talk with my fingers instead of my mouth", "and that's what the smash community is all about". I'm sorry Scar, I wish this were true, I really do, the Smash community and American Esports would be so much better off, but I'm calling BS.

[@KnishG]

Yeah us esports are really trashy right now along with regular sports. People think it's what the audience likes but in reality it's really toxic and annoying. I hope there are some revisions to 'trash talking' in the esports community because they're better then that.

[@Garethaxz]

Knish G. Makes you wonder what the model for it all was, if you look at the countries that spearheaded the development of Esports that now boast successful and respected professional gamers you see a very different picture from what we have in the states and, to a lesser extent, in Europe. Different cultures I guess...

[@KnishG]

Garethaxz that and just the fact that there's no risk to talk shit in esports. It's not like the guy next to you is going to resort to violence. A good thing about smash is that the extent of trash talking is 'I'll be shinin' till he's cryin''

[@Isabelleadshead6917]

honestly this is a match to rival leffen vs chillin like after watching the documentary i have so much respect for these guys for just making the game what it is

[@kabindrapradhan840]

Im i the only one cheering for ken

[@treehann]

I was!

[@BigDeepz]

I wasn't a fan of ken before, but all those b moves were hype! I already knew PC would win, so i was kinda hoping Ken would magically pull it off haha

[@kabindrapradhan840]

+Robert Depo b moves? U mean specials

[@BigDeepz]

you say side special and up special instead of side b and up b? weird. Thats just how I heard it and learned it lol

[@kabindrapradhan840]

+Robert Depo well first of all we call up b recovery and u dont say those b s it dosent sound right

[@WildStrawberryy]

Still good 5 years later

[@RisenFromTheAshes0]

Seeing this live was amazing.

[@smallman9787]

"I'm gonna talk with my fingers, not my mouth."

[@maverickh.papilla1642]

18:50 From Ken's expression he already knew he lost

[@errikutarantino6019]

In my opinion, most hype salty suite set because nothing wrong with old school (love it) and these are true professionals that you can look up to

[@marc-andretrudeau4412]

Wow... melee changed so mutch in so little time!

[@ciamarrajohn]

4:50 lmao husband with the salty "u-uhh yeah...always sweet"

[@AlistairIRL]

PC Chris looks like Fandango.

[@bigsauce1116]

Hahaha!

[@ADHDtj]

pc chris immediatley getting a hug from the one person in the venue that has exactly the same hat

[@Fruitman1997]

Ken may not be the terror he once was, but as a Marth main, I still look up to the guy. I wish my Marth was just a fraction like Ken's.

[@chrispham6599]

well, he's the guy who invented and patented the F-air to D-air kill combo that the majority if not, ALL Marth players are using. Edit: PAL only

[@joevdb9232]

Old Melee... This is so different to what it looks like nowadays :)

[@shadowmariogaming9702]

The Ultimate Super Smash Bros Melee old school face off, this in my mind is even better than Ken vs Azen, PC vs Ken is the culmination of the old era of smash next to Ken vs Azen and PC vs KDJ

[@thepokebro1468]

That 'LOL M2K' sign. Thank you guy. I love this crowd.

[@LimeCultivist]

Great set, the two obviously respect each other as players so much.

[@ValsNemesis]

holy shit, like them old smash days...holy poop

[@ksad96]

Man, after watching the documentary, I happened to see this video and jesus... They're both legendary players, but PC was insane with that Falco!

[@starwarriorterra8373]

Salty Suite... More like the Salty Sweet. These two are just so mild-mannered, I love it.

[@Nobody-xe9fc]

Press 1 if you miss the old days of Melee.

[@zonx27]

We thought the mic drop was a badass way to end something...PC Chris just crowdsurfed in his exit. Now THATS a badass.

[@mr.joester6410]

I love that old gods like pc and ken can still put on such a great show

[@gogajira2]

ken screwed up shield dropping so much and it cost him a stock everytime

[@Ferntendo]

"I'm gonna talk with my fingers rather than my mouth" lol his face made it seem like he knew it sounded dirty

[@robertwood1689]

LOVE WIFE's commentary!

[@CheffMLG]

9:04 that double jump into waveland backwards to foward smash

[@BrawlDOJO999]

I love how these two Respected each other with those good words in the beginning. :)

[@kimerson777]

Seeing PC Chris crowd surf made my night haha

[@EspadaDistancia]

It's funny after he won our $1 entry fee tournament at the Clarion hotel, he falls on top of us when he went crowd surfing. Lol Still love that guy.

[@djalfaro35]

It's just beautiful. They didn't get better. They are doing the same stuff they were doing from 2006. They didn't try to be innovative and new, they stuck to the old stuff that worked. It really does look like the old smash. It may be boring a little bit at times but that's how it was and its perfect. Even though Azen didn't fight ken this is original and its nostalgia. It's just... Beautiful

[@elim9054]

What? They're definitely moving faster than they did in any of their MLG sets from back in the day. PC Chris in particular pulled off some wild combos here.

[@zodek11]

Boring? this was amazing.

[@adamc5478]

PC clearly practiced in secret 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pipedream7735]

Damn, throwback to back in the day

[@iTzeXile13]

2 of the greatest. And 2 of the most humble. Great players but even better people

[@dylanjastle]

Still sick in 2020

[@willscharnagl6909]

Lmao what happened to the comeback PC?

[@IAmASheepEnjoyer]

+Will Scharnagl Ive been wondering the same thing

[@farleydbear]

Thank you chillin, for allowing pc chris to attend to tourneys.

[@CrayonsAreTastey]

Lol i love Pc's humbleness when he tried not smiling

[@zazenbo]

I miss my wife

[@robertcolbert232]

I HAD A DREAM ABOUT THIS A WEEK AGO. THIS IS INSANE!

[@Drew_64]

this is a fucking classic.

[@vincentskater]

I really enjoy how respectful Wife was to Ken and how unbiased he was, that is really professional to me. Even how respectful Ken and PC Chris were to each other was very uplifting. The true meaning of good sportsmanship right there. If anyone knows what Wife really thinks of Ken from his book, you'd be amazed by the story...

[@NoName-yq2jn]

Husband and Wife should always commentate, so much better than D1 IMO

[@mouachanman]

Not even

[@justinsuckow939]

+mouachanman D1 is kind of annoying and over hyped, I appreciate what he's done to help the smash community but wife over D1 anyday. But all opinions

[@spankinthehams]

D1 is an overhyped little shit who's fucking snnoying

[@fmafan123456789]

i rly like d1 commentary

[@andrewnunn681]

Sorry D1 is the greatest commentator ever

[@BubbyBoy]

It's nuts watching this right after watching zain vs leffen. The way they play couldn't be more different

[@OrichalcumsPSN]

I love how they switched commentators during the Salty Suite, Prog and D1 is great but, its nice to see Wife and Husband Time to time

[@kablooey60]

If Ken can still compete today, so can PC. PC is a beast.

[@thespymachine0]

So, I almost started crying when Ken and PC were doing their talking with Scar. Holy cow. :')

[@yjghy]

A ken combo would have been so hype. Sounded like the crowd wanted it too!

[@raymariopokenic1561]

You know what would've been even.more nostalgic? Ken vs azen

[@heartpulse99]

"im gonna talk with my finger rather than with my mouth" oh Chris :^)

[@elijahscott5561]

"Whispy Woods will prove to be the mightiest oak you have ever encountered. He is shown to be wise, protective, caring, and even vengeful at times.." Jesus - 1876 "When most people think Whispy Woods, they think apples! But this Whispy can't grow apples, so he simply drops bombs instead. An apple a day keeps the doctor away, but I don't think the same can be said for bombs." Marth - 2015 - 16:08 One does not call Whispy Woods a "tree". Thou shall call thee.... WHISPY.. WOODS.

[@evy9684]

OMG I DIED LAUGHING!

[@rk9515]

0:10 best intro ever