VHS copied to VHS copied to VHS copied to VHS copied to VHS... (VHS Generation Loss Demonstration)

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Japhy Riddle

Japhy Riddle

5 жыл бұрын

I'd done this once before ten years ago, but I'd never properly showcased it.
What you're witnessing is a video being copied to a VHS tape, that tape being re-digitized, and then copied onto the tape again... and again and again and again... a total of sixteen times.
I termed the original digital video source "generation 1", but it should possibly be called "generation 0". I've never been clear on which way is proper. The first time you see VHS is generation 2.
Results vary from VCR to VCR. This one behaved nicely.
I made sure to start out with a very colorful scene in order to show how the colors degraded.
Because of KZbin's current video compression data rate bottleneck, there isn't a good way to upload videos with this much difference from frame to frame while maintaining decent resolution. However, if you would like to download a less compressed copy out of curiosity, visit this link: drive.google.com/open?id=18yn...
The music is Vaughan Williams - “Piano Quintet in C Minor” performed by Novacek, Yoo, Oudin, Kim, and Cahill.

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@MrMegaManFan
@MrMegaManFan 3 жыл бұрын
Some of my VHS tapes actually got this bad because I’d copy my favorite shows from one source to the next to remove commercials, then again to make compilations. I had no concept of signal degradation or loss at that age!
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 3 жыл бұрын
There was one time in my childhood that I made a copy of a tape and the result appeared to look better than the original. I didn't understand how that could be possible. It turned out that because VCRs often employ a sharpening filter, the copy looked sharper to my naive eyes, even though detail had been lost.
@maximusstorm1215
@maximusstorm1215 10 ай бұрын
"I had no concept of signal degradation or | || || |_."
@kayEnt3rtainm3nt
@kayEnt3rtainm3nt 10 ай бұрын
​@@maximusstorm1215Good try but I don't think the aligment is quite there depending on the platform of viewing.
@buggerkingmalmo8949
@buggerkingmalmo8949 10 ай бұрын
@@maximusstorm1215 is this....
@BigAssBalls
@BigAssBalls 10 ай бұрын
@@kayEnt3rtainm3ntGuess the joke was | |I || l_t on some platforms...
@harperlilian
@harperlilian 9 ай бұрын
The gen z version of this is people cropping a tiktok meme over and over until the quality is so bad that the video is indistinguishable
@hillybankok
@hillybankok 9 күн бұрын
dude youre spitting facts
@tacoyael6
@tacoyael6 9 ай бұрын
I love how it goes from a demonstration video to analog horror real quick
@manboy4720
@manboy4720 9 ай бұрын
analog horror = anything on a VHS
@mr_flor
@mr_flor 9 ай бұрын
@@manboy4720 exactly
@Glennjamyyyn
@Glennjamyyyn 9 ай бұрын
His deep staring into my soul at the 5th generation certainly helped
@agentepolaris4914
@agentepolaris4914 7 ай бұрын
To be honest, although I like analog horror, I HATE how it has fucked up the internet's mind to the point everyone associates anything that looks like old Polaroid picture quality or VHS generation loss (or VHS "filter") to horror even when things in question aren't scary per se
@tacoyael6
@tacoyael6 7 ай бұрын
@@agentepolaris4914 I totally get your point, but I think it's oddly scary nonetheless, I called it analog horror because I couldn't think of any other way to describe it. But still old vhs videos are at least a bit disturbing to me, doesn't matter what the video is about.
@moxie6132
@moxie6132 6 ай бұрын
A lot of people use glitchy VHS to be unnerving, but using it as a sense of imminent time and decay is an idea worth exploring
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 6 ай бұрын
I was totally surprised at how many people thought this video was scary. I guess if people's first exposure to VHS artifacts is a horrific one, then that's what they associate with the format. Since I was born in '84, I grew up with the format, and have nothing to fear about its artifacts. This was meant to just be a silly tech demonstration video.
@moxie6132
@moxie6132 6 ай бұрын
@@japhyriddle And it definitely serves the purpose well, the video is fantastic. It's that fusion of fear and education that intrigued me, taking the VHS artifacts, and giving them a deeper meaning to analog horror than just corruption or an otherwise unnerving presence
@Felamine
@Felamine Ай бұрын
@@japhyriddle I was born in 1984 too and the only thing "scary" about a glitchy VHS is the possibility of a broken tape, or worse, a broken VCR. And the anxiety of having to explain to my parents that the VCR might be broken. 😆
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 15 күн бұрын
That's actually exactly what is done with the intro sequience of Better Call Saul through the seasons.
@Kris_A
@Kris_A 5 жыл бұрын
The invisible super visual degradation twist knob was a great peak. Very good!
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Thanks. While I was doing that, I thought, "I wonder if I should have been pushing invisible buttons instead of snapping my fingers.".
@StevonnieFan
@StevonnieFan 5 жыл бұрын
Japhy Riddle You should’ve done that at the 16th Generation.
@NikoCubeRoot
@NikoCubeRoot 5 жыл бұрын
@@japhyriddle 26 5 13. Me Her He Here Here's Here is
@Simon-ps3oj
@Simon-ps3oj 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikoCubeRoot what
@gigigigiotto1673
@gigigigiotto1673 3 жыл бұрын
where can i buy one? I lost it and i can't find it anymore
@nithsk
@nithsk 9 ай бұрын
analogue horror fans: "OMG THIS IS SO FIRE"
@MaxConsumesDeadHamsters
@MaxConsumesDeadHamsters 4 ай бұрын
im using it for anolog horror but its not on this account
@unhappysaint
@unhappysaint 4 ай бұрын
@@MaxConsumesDeadHamstersmay you send the link of your analog horror? i would like to see
@snarkatryta
@snarkatryta 3 ай бұрын
​​@@MaxConsumesDeadHamsters and i do too but alive
@Kitteh.B
@Kitteh.B 3 ай бұрын
I don't understand analog horror but everyone I know that does is like, at least 10 years younger than me. I'm slowly becoming convinced it's scary to them because they don't understand analog electronics?
@MaxConsumesDeadHamsters
@MaxConsumesDeadHamsters 3 ай бұрын
@@Kitteh.B for me it's not scary it's either for fun or it's an effect to make it look like it came straight out of a VHS. Sometimes nostalgia can be scary and yea it looks a bit uneasy but I love it lol
@Faith_Soprano
@Faith_Soprano 9 ай бұрын
When I was a kid, my parents would often get pirated VHS tapes both from friends and from actual outlets that sold pirated VHS tapes, as well as rental places. You could often tell how many times they were copied by just how horrible the quality was. When I got a little older and sought out to buy actual licensed VHS copies of things I liked, I was kind of shocked to see how good the quality actually was on the original tapes. 😅
@ChickensinHighDef
@ChickensinHighDef 8 ай бұрын
Tony was literally into everything, wasn't he?
@johnny5941
@johnny5941 23 күн бұрын
How many copies were each clap in this video? Was each copy very forgiving as in each clap would be ten copies. Two claps in this video meant twenty copies?
@johnny5941
@johnny5941 23 күн бұрын
How many copies were each clap in this video? Was each copy very forgiving as in each clap would be ten copies. Two claps in this video meant twenty copies?
@BenjaminHari
@BenjaminHari 9 ай бұрын
I'm actually shocked how much is lost already on 1st copy....quite interesting, thanks for the video!
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 9 ай бұрын
Indeed. VHS is a really terrible (specs-wise) format. Thank you.
@0L1
@0L1 8 ай бұрын
​@@japhyriddle Or the perfect anti-piracy format 🤔
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 8 ай бұрын
@@0L1 Certainly not. I had two VCRs growing up. Poor Blockbuster. We copied all the good movies we rented.
@quentinkaasa47
@quentinkaasa47 7 ай бұрын
Do you have a copy of Shazam laying around?
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 7 ай бұрын
@@quentinkaasa47 Back then, I was "too cool" for Shazam. Now, I can get down with it.
@brentfisher902
@brentfisher902 3 жыл бұрын
It is a good thing they figured out how to have lossless digital audio recording, for example, the Rolling Stones early master tapes are worn out completely and the recordings you hear now are a digitized recording from the last playing. This means that if digital sound recording never happened then there could only be a finite possible number of copies and plays of any one song.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The archivist in me is very grateful.
@lutello3012
@lutello3012 Жыл бұрын
As long as there's someone there to digitally copy the digital copy before it degrades too much.
@antonliakhovitch8306
@antonliakhovitch8306 10 ай бұрын
​@@lutello3012Yes, but the key difference is that you can now copy as many times as you want without any quality loss whatsoever. Checksums and ECCs ensure that the file can even withstand some degradation of the physical medium, and that you'll know for sure whether it's been changed at all from the original.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 ай бұрын
Vinyl fanatics are going “la-la-la, can’t hear you” ...
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 ай бұрын
@@mezzb Vinyl is a dead-end technology that remains stuck in the 1970s. At least the Compact Cassette continued to be improved right into the 1990s with new magnetic formulations etc. If any retro analog format is worthy of a revival, cassettes are it.
@ageves8487
@ageves8487 Жыл бұрын
Everywhere at the End of VHS. This technique would actually make for an amazing narrative short film, I really wish it was longer demonstration, but love it all the same, thank you for sharing.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle Жыл бұрын
Back in 2008 (or sometime around then), I made a short film which used this effect almost narratively. But that film wasn't very good. You're right, I should make some actually good short with this effect.
@ageves8487
@ageves8487 Жыл бұрын
@@japhyriddle Cool! I'd still love to see it, and anything else, should you get the inspiration and idea for this technique! It'd really be beautiful. It is present here though and that is worthy of praise!
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 ай бұрын
It seems to me, the signal would converge to a state such that the VHS degradation ends up producing the same signal. This could be called an “eigenstate” of the complete VHS recording+playback cycle.
@dreamybullcontent
@dreamybullcontent 10 ай бұрын
​@@japhyriddleIs it online anywhere? I suggest you archive stuff like that
@kevinm5940
@kevinm5940 10 ай бұрын
Isn't that just any analogue horror media
@PianoManPaul
@PianoManPaul 6 ай бұрын
Fascinating video ... and brings back memories! Some time between 40 and 50 years ago as a young child, I had a fascination with audio tape recorders. The ability just to record anything that happened around me, and play it back, listened to what just happened AGAIN - sufficiently blew my young noggin to no end. I had a little Lloyd's brand cassette recorder, as my first. A few months into this wonderful new science, I found my dad's big reel-to-reel deck, and ran a crazy experiment - the first recording, was of me just clapping my hands for about ten seconds. On the second recording on the other deck, I did the exact same - just not the exact same 'clapping speed' as the first recording, AND - with the first recording being played back very close to the microphone. Back to the first deck for #3, which now had 2 of me clapping already ... you see where this is going. I remember making it up to a barely tolerable 30 recordings, that sounded like a class room FULL of clapping kids, but the imperfections and high overtones of the early, low quality microphones, soon in those re-recordings would produce an extremely annoying tone just desperate to "feed back"... and I was eventually stuck with that. Funny thing about this was, no one at all believed me, when I told them that there was only one person clapping, and that was me. I hadn't thought about that memory for at least 20 years -- until I saw this video. Thank you!
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 6 ай бұрын
I love this story. Thank you for adding it to the comments.
@andrut04
@andrut04 7 ай бұрын
Wow, this video made me think about how my childhood memories are slowly fading out. Every now and then I realize that the moments that I know I remembered are not there anymore. That's sad.
@dguy0386
@dguy0386 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who uses vhs regularly this is the most accurate depiction of different levels of vhs picture quality I've ever seen online
@Mobilis17
@Mobilis17 10 ай бұрын
Why are you using vhs regularly?
@dguy0386
@dguy0386 10 ай бұрын
​@Mobilis17 because my family never stopped using them and i enjoy old technology so I've actively added more to the already existing family collection, 4/5ths of what i watch is old enough to be on vhs anyway and they're insanely cheap these days, 10 cents each at my local salvation army, for someone who conveniently already owned a vcr 10 cents for a movie is insane
@henrybierman8431
@henrybierman8431 10 ай бұрын
​@@dguy0386it is good, but only if you own a box tv. VHS looks horrible on a flat screen (because it has to convert from analog to digital I think)
@presidentofallfoodnice8113
@presidentofallfoodnice8113 10 ай бұрын
​@@dguy0386I wish they were that cheap where i lived
@wind2536
@wind2536 10 ай бұрын
@@dguy0386 based, you should be my bf
@hotfightinghistory9224
@hotfightinghistory9224 10 ай бұрын
This is really scaring me, because when I was 13 I started having a reoccurring dream of an event but it was VERY badly distorted. It looked exactly like what happens at 0:56. The event was people looking frantic and running, while some stood in their midst just staring at the sky. Some were pointing, some were crying. There was no sound at all, it was so silent that the silence itself was a presence. I still remember the silence of it, but there was sound at the end. At the end I would hear someone shouting 'SHUT IT OFF! HE'S WAKING UP! WE HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN!!!". The dream would happen only once twice a month, and it went on for about 9 months.
@exogd
@exogd 10 ай бұрын
Bro thats actually creepy asf
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 10 ай бұрын
Wow. That's sounds very intense. It could probably be fleshed out and turned into a scary sci-fi film. Thank you for sharing.
@crafterrium8724
@crafterrium8724 10 ай бұрын
Get dawg a dream doctor 😭😭😭
@p0lyb1u5
@p0lyb1u5 10 ай бұрын
@@japhyriddleMy writer ass could never NOT write that idea down
@calchuchesta3196
@calchuchesta3196 10 ай бұрын
SHUT IT OFF! SHUT IT OFF!! THEY HIT THE FUCKING PENTAGON!!!!
@sanixxs
@sanixxs 9 ай бұрын
it gets progressively scarier and scarier, but your winks and smiles keep me happy and feeling safe!
@jonpatchmodular
@jonpatchmodular 9 ай бұрын
Very impressively edited! I love that magnetic lo-fi sound, it sounds a lot like microcassette past the 3rd or 4th generation, when it starts to sound saturated.
@23Daves
@23Daves 10 ай бұрын
I think those among us who bought a lot of bootleg VHS videos in the 80s and 90s can recognise generations 2-4 very well.
@y3flamex250
@y3flamex250 10 ай бұрын
AMNOGN!??!?!??! SUS!??!?!?!
@simonsays_999
@simonsays_999 10 ай бұрын
AMOGUS
@kobwmoose
@kobwmoose 10 ай бұрын
These comments, including OP, are a good demonstration on who's born in the 20th century or the 21st.
@WojciechP915
@WojciechP915 10 ай бұрын
Legend has it the FBI is still after him.
@helio3928
@helio3928 10 ай бұрын
​@@kobwmoosemillennials can't enjoy amogus?
@inamorato6663
@inamorato6663 10 ай бұрын
this is so oddly eerie, there’s always something about degrading orchestral music in vhs that feels so tragic
@chasethecolors
@chasethecolors 9 ай бұрын
That’s probably why the artist The Caretaker used that kind of music to represent Alzheimer’s. Spooky, sad stuff
@weirdooftheyear
@weirdooftheyear 8 ай бұрын
That's ALWAYS gotten me! Distorted/old sound always gets on my nerves.
@WalkerArt-64
@WalkerArt-64 2 ай бұрын
May I ask, does anyone know what music that is?
@nik.akhmetov
@nik.akhmetov 9 ай бұрын
well that turned into nightmare fuel really quickly
@ti2218
@ti2218 9 ай бұрын
It's like going back a decade in quality with each snap!
@1TakoyakiStore
@1TakoyakiStore 10 ай бұрын
My parents had a big laser printer for their home run magazine business. Once when I was messing with it I discovered this concept with the coper function of the printer. This would've been mid 90's. So when I heard about cloning degradation in science fiction shows years if not decades later I knew what they meant.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 10 ай бұрын
Awesome. Before learning the proper terminology for doing it with video, my friends and I used to call this technique "video Xeroxing".
@lpc9929
@lpc9929 10 ай бұрын
Th the
@arubaguy2733
@arubaguy2733 9 ай бұрын
45 years ago, I was a copy machine repairman. The machines used liquid toner and coated paper...no digital anything. To test repaired machines' optics, focus, etc, we'd make copies of copies of copies of copies of copies, etc. until quality degraded to an unacceptable level, to verify the quality of the repair.@@japhyriddle I think I'll check both my laser and ink jet printers to test the image degradation on modern machines.
@Galidorquest
@Galidorquest 5 жыл бұрын
0:53 This looks like a 1970's spearmint gum or mouthwash commercial...
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha. I guess my life's complete now.
@PetrMessner
@PetrMessner 9 ай бұрын
This is how Terminator 1 looked like when I first saw it. With single voice dubbing.
@Nomadnetic
@Nomadnetic 9 ай бұрын
I wasn't aware of this effect. I would copy over the same tape multiple times as a kid, and always wondered why it looked worse/more degraded. Fascinating stuff.
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 6 ай бұрын
This isn't about recording over a tape, this is about using source A to make copy B, then take copy B to make copy C, then take copy C to make copy D, and so on. You could reuse a tape dozens of times with little to no problems.
@mayonnnnnaise
@mayonnnnnaise 10 ай бұрын
This is art; it made me feel emotions. It's a good metaphor or simile, or whatever for memory. The further from the source, or the moment in real life, the more distorted it is.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 10 ай бұрын
Aw. Thank you. I'm glad it moved you.
@artemisvega8940
@artemisvega8940 9 ай бұрын
That's our post post modern history to a T. It's literally what the first Matrix movie was going on about 20 something years ago. A copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. And eventually people don't realise what the source is.
@AlphaCarinae
@AlphaCarinae 9 ай бұрын
Post-Awareness Stage 6 is without description.
@edwardtye4119
@edwardtye4119 9 ай бұрын
@@artemisvega8940 Oh so like the way my mum used to always have leftovers
@pascaldeweze6032
@pascaldeweze6032 8 ай бұрын
It's basically an adaptation/continuation of Alvin Lucier's piece "I am sitting in a room" --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppbEmZmued1ro5o
@tristanlaferriere5194
@tristanlaferriere5194 10 ай бұрын
This is essentially how we age. Our DNA keeps copying and copying, making us less "perfect" as the years go on.
@VengefulPolititron
@VengefulPolititron 10 ай бұрын
true we are subject to the second law of thermodynamics which is entropy. macro-evolution never happened and micro evolution is just damage-control (adaptation) as we devolve.
@raven-a
@raven-a 10 ай бұрын
So does this mean older people have more degraded children? 😂
@Espartanica
@Espartanica 10 ай бұрын
​@@VengefulPolititronPlease tell me this comment is a joke.
@mildly_miffed_man1414
@mildly_miffed_man1414 10 ай бұрын
@@VengefulPolititron: |
@whenelvescry2625
@whenelvescry2625 10 ай бұрын
​@@raven-athis is actually true. the probability of a child being born with a genetic disorder is tied to the age of the mother, eg down syndrome
@Tod_x
@Tod_x 6 ай бұрын
"Real Footage" video quality be like:
@draconicruns
@draconicruns 8 ай бұрын
your vcr played *very* nicely compared to other videos of this i've seen
@revalone3944
@revalone3944 Жыл бұрын
from old infomercial to analog horror (why tf are ppl arguing if analog horror is scary who cares bro)
@flariz4824
@flariz4824 10 ай бұрын
How in the world is this even remotely horror
@Conorator
@Conorator 10 ай бұрын
​@@flariz4824 That's not what they were saying. They're talking about how the VHS effect looks and sounds, and the very distorted part is similar to what a lot of analog horror series use.
@KaygeeFromNanotrasen
@KaygeeFromNanotrasen 10 ай бұрын
​@@Conorator"horror"
@Conorator
@Conorator 10 ай бұрын
@@KaygeeFromNanotrasen Are you doing one of those snarky elitist things where you try to imply that analog horror isn't "real horror?"
@KaygeeFromNanotrasen
@KaygeeFromNanotrasen 9 ай бұрын
@@Conorator dude its just dogshit
@nathanielhermanson3110
@nathanielhermanson3110 3 жыл бұрын
0:16 found status 0:31 found status 0:37 partially found status 0:43 partially found status 0:48 lost status 0:53 lost status 1:06 extinct status
@shadymorsi4347
@shadymorsi4347 Жыл бұрын
i hate the fact that i understand where this is refering to
@WatercraftGames
@WatercraftGames Жыл бұрын
rd
@Optimus97
@Optimus97 Жыл бұрын
@@shadymorsi4347 and I don't understand
@shadymorsi4347
@shadymorsi4347 Жыл бұрын
@@Optimus97 its a reference to lost media wiki which uses those classifiers depending on the foundability of media
@sonicunleashedfan124
@sonicunleashedfan124 10 ай бұрын
@@shadymorsi4347could someone link me to a video of extinct media that looks like that?
@Indecency562
@Indecency562 9 ай бұрын
I do love this. I admit, I just wished you also had demonstrated the change in sound with every step too - particularly with your voice - because I was really interested in the audio side of this!
@Rickyg4
@Rickyg4 5 ай бұрын
Dude this is so educational! I’m working on a VFX project that is VHS found footage and this showed me exactly what I needed to really make the distortion feel real
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 5 ай бұрын
Oh, that's great to hear. I'm glad this helped. When your project is done, send me a link : )
@philiphatfield5666
@philiphatfield5666 10 ай бұрын
I was one of the few people to buy a Super-VHS VCR, and it was terrific. It was every bit as good as Laserdisc and DVD.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 10 ай бұрын
That's so cool. I've never had the opportunity to play with S-VHS. Although I do have a Beta SP deck, which beats SVHS in chroma resolution, but not luma resolution if I recall.
@dotmatrixmoe
@dotmatrixmoe 9 ай бұрын
​@@japhyriddleI've been looking for an SVHS deck to try the ET recording abilities most JVC players have.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 9 ай бұрын
@@dotmatrixmoe That would be awesome. I hope you find one.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 9 ай бұрын
The best part was recording broadcast TV with S-VHS since it was far more noticeable improved quality than regular VHS. I remember doing this with daytime soaps that played during the day so we'd record them to watch at night.
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 6 ай бұрын
"It was every bit as good as Laserdisc and DVD" No it wasn't. SVHS still had horrible chroma resolution. It was good, but nowhere near as good as even ED Beta or Laserdisc.
@StevonnieFan
@StevonnieFan 5 жыл бұрын
*Alternative Title:* VHS Generation Loss Demonstration
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@StevonnieFan
@StevonnieFan 5 жыл бұрын
Japhy Riddle *INDEED INDEED! XD*
@KanaPain
@KanaPain 8 ай бұрын
4th generation when the eyes distort does it for me. i always found it kind of eerie when that happens in vhs tapes.
@p_sher12
@p_sher12 3 ай бұрын
nobody: serial killer interrogations in the 80s:
@vaporinsider
@vaporinsider 5 жыл бұрын
0:56 it was very cool!
@Solodolo84
@Solodolo84 Жыл бұрын
And this is why I love vhs. It's real. It's alive. It's basically video archeology. You can tell who did what to a videotape just by looking at what parts are more warped than others. From rewinds to record-overs. It's all there. #circulatethetapes 📼🍻💙
@Delivery_Boy_Roy
@Delivery_Boy_Roy Жыл бұрын
Its my favorite format too :3
@corwin.macleod
@corwin.macleod Жыл бұрын
You might love JPEG as much then, because the encoding technology is literally the same (YUV+color information reduction). Just compress image at 60 enough times to get the desired effect, done.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 10 ай бұрын
@@corwin.macleod Ugh, but those 8x8 pixel blocks. So offensive to me.
@lpc9929
@lpc9929 10 ай бұрын
The
@SomeRandomPiggo
@SomeRandomPiggo 10 ай бұрын
@@corwin.macleod JPEG uses DCT though which produces artifacts which aren't really nice on the eyes, you'd get a much more accurate effect by simulating NTSC in software
@KrayzieRoach
@KrayzieRoach 8 ай бұрын
finally clicked the thumbnail after seeing it a gazillion times
@JacksHQ
@JacksHQ 9 ай бұрын
Marvelous. You did it again, Japhy!
@dRevnik
@dRevnik 3 жыл бұрын
to be honest most of the visible degredation in earlier copies is caused by highliting interlacing lines over the edges which is not a problem of vhs tapes or players, but of the capture, digitalization and encoding process.
@gblargg
@gblargg 10 ай бұрын
Also the random occasional horizontal artifacts are caused by damaged tape (crinkles).
@deborahmartins1547
@deborahmartins1547 10 ай бұрын
I'm an enthusiast for everything that is vintage, especially from the 80s. I have this habit of watching old commercials compilations here on yt and I definitely recognized the look of almost all of them. I wasn't aware of how copying a tape over and over could damage the image, very interesting work, congrats!
@quentinkaasa47
@quentinkaasa47 7 ай бұрын
I actually ended up here from watching this girls playlist, after I saw her in the comments for an old commercial that was recommended to me because I had been watching old TNN (Spike TV) commercial compilations. 😄
@deborahmartins1547
@deborahmartins1547 7 ай бұрын
@@quentinkaasa47 me? my playlists? WOW
@quentinkaasa47
@quentinkaasa47 7 ай бұрын
@@deborahmartins1547No, it was somebody else I came across after being recommended the Bob Wehadababyitsaboy commercial.
@B-RollBooks
@B-RollBooks 9 ай бұрын
Very nice execution of this cool idea. I love the imaginary dial you turn at the end.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 9 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yeah, I was rather proud of that one.
@trwijbenga
@trwijbenga 8 ай бұрын
Cool vid. I just realized that you're the guy from the animal shaped audio waves as well. Stuff like this makes my day, thanks man!
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 8 ай бұрын
Yes, that's me. I'm glad I added something to your day : )
@KeiranCounsellKC1994
@KeiranCounsellKC1994 2 жыл бұрын
That twist knob effect is really cool, alot of the old doctor who dvds contain the ghosting effect and the shifted colours
@antonioromanazzi6341
@antonioromanazzi6341 9 ай бұрын
Hello Keiran.
@KeiranCounsellKC1994
@KeiranCounsellKC1994 9 ай бұрын
@@antonioromanazzi6341 hello? Do I know you?
@Molybed1
@Molybed1 3 жыл бұрын
This is the same reason we age and die. Cells that copy degrade over time.
@VHSGUY_ANALOGCOMPANY
@VHSGUY_ANALOGCOMPANY 2 жыл бұрын
That is deep? 🤠
@BlackFlagHeathen
@BlackFlagHeathen Жыл бұрын
Oh shit VHS cancer
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 ай бұрын
Except for our gametes, somehow.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 10 ай бұрын
@@k-force8325 Researchers recently found a way to create something resembling an early-stage human embryo, starting entirely from regular body cells.
@davivillalva2406
@davivillalva2406 10 ай бұрын
Our bodies are basically analog systems made of flesh.
@rudimentaer4830
@rudimentaer4830 9 ай бұрын
As a kid I had some classic horror movies (Evil Dead 1 + 2, Nightmare on Elmstreet, Hellraiser 1 + 2) on VHS as second or third generation copies, also not all VCRs were Stereo compatible and by todays standards made the audio really bad. But I must say this added some kind of atmosphere especially to horror movies.
@LinoGermano
@LinoGermano 6 ай бұрын
You unintentionally described our aging process. Periodically our cells try to copy themselves.
@humandarion
@humandarion 3 жыл бұрын
This is really freaking impressive, to make this clear, this effect is pretty much done with only VHS, no software effects?
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 3 жыл бұрын
To answer simply, yes. The effects (artifacts) are caused by analog hardware and tape only. However, in order to ensure a proper sync signal all the way through the many back-and-forth transfers, the footage gets digitized every generation. Any artifacts the digitization process adds to the recursion are very subtle, and are most-likely dwarfed by the ones the VCR introduces.
@CrushedAsian255
@CrushedAsian255 10 ай бұрын
Also things like blocky mpeg artifacts will get smeared out by the tape anyway
@LucidDreamer54321
@LucidDreamer54321 10 ай бұрын
I did something similar with a photocopier on my last day at a very toxic workplace that almost drove me insane. I copied all the forms that they used. Then I replaced all their master forms with the 20th generation copy. Then I walked out.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 10 ай бұрын
Ha ha. Good on ya. I used to call this VHS back-and-forth process, "Video Xeroxing" before I learned any other terminology.
@ibm30rpg
@ibm30rpg 9 ай бұрын
inb4 you get sued
@synthgal1090
@synthgal1090 9 ай бұрын
It's not an official document until it has extreme photocopier burn anyway.
@tarrocongresista1122
@tarrocongresista1122 9 ай бұрын
​@@ibm30rpglet people enjoy things i dont care that its """property damage""" i wanna see sh*t burn.
@Liam3072
@Liam3072 9 ай бұрын
Woah, calm down Satan!
@churlishbeardo
@churlishbeardo 9 ай бұрын
Bravo for the “potentiometer” bit at the end - that was a nifty way to finish the video quickly while getting the point across.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 9 ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad you liked that.
@TheWanderer1000000
@TheWanderer1000000 9 ай бұрын
KZbin has conditioned me to think this is an Analog Horror Project.
@huntingvega3876
@huntingvega3876 Жыл бұрын
extremely nicely done editing, must have taken a lot of work
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Not too much work. I had a way to automate a variable that would select the different generations. Basically a slider bar to choose how messed up it looked.
@qsynix
@qsynix 9 ай бұрын
@@japhyriddle did you use something like the signal plugin?
@BoldDestinyAnimations
@BoldDestinyAnimations 9 ай бұрын
I love the look of old, slightly degraded VHS. It's really nice for horror (as we've seen before) and it just looks nice.
@haveanicedave1551
@haveanicedave1551 9 ай бұрын
same here. I don't like the crisp look.
@SniperBeast117
@SniperBeast117 9 ай бұрын
yep reminds you, you're looking at a screen. Most are now living through screens, no longer being able to tell the difference @@haveanicedave1551
@djpeterabreu
@djpeterabreu Ай бұрын
the invisible nob was just brilliant!
@djpeterabreu
@djpeterabreu Ай бұрын
btw: new sub!
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 11 күн бұрын
Aw. Thank you very much : )
@bungusdoogungus7981
@bungusdoogungus7981 5 күн бұрын
Analog horror writers: "Write that down WRITE THAT DOWN"
@gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240
@gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 3 жыл бұрын
Since I'm into sound, my favourite generation loss side effect is stereo audio going to mono audo.
@timkruse4548
@timkruse4548 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact, this is what happens to our cells as we age. The replacement is never as good as the original, x2, x3, x4, etc.
@dredwick
@dredwick 3 ай бұрын
Yep, it is exactly what happens when we age! EXACTLY!
@crazyivan030983
@crazyivan030983 9 ай бұрын
Always wanted to see this. Thank you.
@mrhootyhoo
@mrhootyhoo 9 ай бұрын
BOOM! CONGRATULATIONS YOU JUST GOT A NEW SUBSCRIBER! GOOD WORK. NEW FAVORITE CHANNEL
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 9 ай бұрын
Many thanks.
@porksandwichstolennft8822
@porksandwichstolennft8822 2 жыл бұрын
0:39 The eyes start to look more creepy in this part
@RetroPlus
@RetroPlus 10 ай бұрын
This was so nicely demonstrated, the effect is oddly beautiful
@pacock4
@pacock4 9 ай бұрын
Better Call Saul's intros from season 1 to season 6 be like:
@jacobdwyre4345
@jacobdwyre4345 9 ай бұрын
Super cool video dude! Excellent demonstration!
@CodenameCMB
@CodenameCMB 3 жыл бұрын
THAT IS SO TRIPPY! Well edited, nicely done.
5 жыл бұрын
You haven't learned a single thing about the dangers of finger snapping, did you?
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 5 жыл бұрын
I learned that it's less dangerous than pretending to turn invisible potentiometers... although, with a potentiometer, one can turn it the other direction and reverse the damage. There's no way to "reverse snap".
@NoSubsWithContent
@NoSubsWithContent 4 жыл бұрын
@@japhyriddle tell that to the avengers
8 ай бұрын
@@japhyriddle oh wow, this video got recommended to me again after 4 years, and just noticed you answered. Hi! :D Cool video by the way :)
@ImNotGam
@ImNotGam 9 күн бұрын
WOW the slide knob at the end is amazing.
@Apollo_Vanron
@Apollo_Vanron 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering about this the other day. Thank you.
@user-zm4ro7yh4e
@user-zm4ro7yh4e 10 ай бұрын
analog horror fans scared shitless
@yuukoyuukoi476
@yuukoyuukoi476 3 жыл бұрын
nobodys talking about how good 1st gen looks like
@thebrapman
@thebrapman 9 ай бұрын
Who knew the slight hum from degraded quality VHS could elicit such nostalgia
@radiosilencerecords3553
@radiosilencerecords3553 9 ай бұрын
There's something epic and magical about this video, I don't know why... :D
@j.vaneijndhoven267
@j.vaneijndhoven267 4 жыл бұрын
The effect at 0:55 was amazing :D
@KairoMontano
@KairoMontano 9 ай бұрын
Kids today: "What creepy pasta is this?"
@zombieslayadylan2923
@zombieslayadylan2923 2 ай бұрын
Do kids now even care about creepypastas anymore?
@Y-two-K
@Y-two-K 9 ай бұрын
There was something human about analog technologies. Imperfect, susceptible to aging...will always hold a special place in my heart.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 9 ай бұрын
I know what you mean. There's a certain life to them that is often missing from the exactness of digital formats.
@blafaard
@blafaard 9 ай бұрын
This should be the best video on youtube period.
@harveydean7952
@harveydean7952 9 ай бұрын
Before the internet or DVD's this is what porn used to look like in the '80's & early '90's. You had to squint or use your imagination to guess what the blurred images might be if you wanted to get your rocks off. Things were far more wholesome back in the day.
@wylser
@wylser 9 ай бұрын
You making facial expressions like an Instathot with every generation loss made me lol hard
@carldean2597
@carldean2597 15 күн бұрын
I remember finding a pirate copy of E.T That looked like when you turned The imaginary dial to black and fuzzy. And that's how people used to watch them back in the day With zero complaints.😂😂😂😂
@SAckTheGoof
@SAckTheGoof 2 жыл бұрын
this is a visual representation of how people with Alzheimer lose there memories.
@BlackFlagHeathen
@BlackFlagHeathen Жыл бұрын
EATEOT, except on VHS.
@ShatitoLlegando
@ShatitoLlegando 8 ай бұрын
"there" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@SAckTheGoof
@SAckTheGoof 8 ай бұрын
@@ShatitoLlegando oh shoot, sorry i couldn't be perfect at speaking a language that isn't even my native one. either way, i believe people who speak English natively tend to make similar mistakes to me.
@TheMCLegendTeam164
@TheMCLegendTeam164 Ай бұрын
​​@@SAckTheGoofThe amount of english natives that say "there" instead of "their" or "your" instead of "you're" gives us english natives (I'm american specifically) a reason not to correct those who don't have english as their first language. But OF COURSE it still happens 🤦, so I do apologize on the natively English community if you feel bad about saying it wrong.
@gatewoodanimations9753
@gatewoodanimations9753 10 ай бұрын
As someone who collects vhs tapes, this is awesome. Thank you for this!
@switchdeck9164
@switchdeck9164 9 ай бұрын
Collects them for what they look like shit?
@quickcmon
@quickcmon 9 ай бұрын
Some are rare and collector items. like many horror movies
@Overflight01
@Overflight01 9 ай бұрын
The makers of the film The WNUF Halloween Special actually did this process to the film's master copy, in order to give it that feel of an old VHS tape.
@greenknight9000
@greenknight9000 9 ай бұрын
I think Generation 2 or 3 is that perfect "Nostalgia Sweet-Spot" if that makes sense
@owenjj93
@owenjj93 9 ай бұрын
It absolutely does
@KimStennabbCaesar
@KimStennabbCaesar 10 ай бұрын
Very cool demonstration. I've been thinking of trying this myself, since I have an old deck and a bag of tapes lying around.
@FoxBlocksHere
@FoxBlocksHere 10 ай бұрын
Wow. This was cool already, but the knob effect made it something truy special. Also, someone should DEFINITELY use this idea for a short film, as A Geves suggested.
@EYE69MYSELF
@EYE69MYSELF 8 ай бұрын
Those hums take me back to my childhood.
@moijam
@moijam 7 ай бұрын
mans casually becoming The Caretaker
@AlystrZelland
@AlystrZelland 9 ай бұрын
very cool. i wish there were more tech demos of this sort, and i love people taking the time to create them
@nelsonhibbert5267
@nelsonhibbert5267 9 ай бұрын
A friend of mine used to record various sex scenes from different films onto one tape. it became known as the toffee tape (Tape Of Fucking For EveryonE). He kept it discretely hidden in amongst his parents VHS collection, marked as a film they would never be interested in watching. One day he came home and noticed all the tapes were missing. His dad had donated their entire collection to a local charity shop. My friends first words "Oh shit, not the fucking toffee tape....". I still wonder who ended up with it and what their response was on first viewing.
@naruii5160
@naruii5160 9 ай бұрын
this is hilarious
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 9 ай бұрын
Nooo, not the toffee tape!
@metjovi
@metjovi 3 ай бұрын
You remember it very well. Anyone would say your friend lived in your house and looked a lot like you. 😜
@racer927
@racer927 6 ай бұрын
1:03 "What colors do you want your phosphors?" "Yes!"
@nx_studio
@nx_studio Ай бұрын
the invisible dial was so satisfying to watch
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz385
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz385 5 жыл бұрын
I tried this once with a licensed tape, a blank tape, and two vcrs. It went from crystal clear to instant diarrhea, Black and white, jumpy picture, the works.
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think this one lasted through more generations than yours did because it had a digital intermediate between each copy.
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz385
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz385 5 жыл бұрын
Japhy Riddle Yeah, that could be. I also just tried to use a different licensed tape and then a home recorder blank to another blank, which worked both times with minimal quality loss. It might just be a gamble, or different types of tape(not sure if that makes sense, but the first one that turned out awful was an official BBC release of Doctor Who, and the second licensed one was from a very small company who could’ve used home-movie grade tape. But I’m not too sure).
@zodiahk
@zodiahk 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, macrovision and shit makes it unwatchable, you should use 2 black vhs tapes next time.
@horrortimeproductions5504
@horrortimeproductions5504 5 жыл бұрын
I think they were talking about the past, nobody would copy a VHS movie nowadays. Serious people use to buy a digital video stabilizer, which allowed any movie to be perfectly copied. I use to do this for friends I had, it worked fine for Blu-Ray movies copied to a blank DVD. Lol
@zodiahk
@zodiahk 5 жыл бұрын
@@horrortimeproductions5504 yeah, I get it
@tachalorah
@tachalorah 4 жыл бұрын
*1:06** sounds like "Время" broadcasted by C-SPAN from '94 to '95*
@user-th5nq6iv8c
@user-th5nq6iv8c 3 жыл бұрын
Да как время
@noelht1
@noelht1 9 ай бұрын
There was a certain nostalgia to watching VHS tapes copied like this
@Sagadali523
@Sagadali523 8 ай бұрын
That "That's enough" is gonna be scary af
@plasmaemerald8407
@plasmaemerald8407 9 ай бұрын
I don’t know why I got this in my recommendations 4 years later but that’s actually really cool! I thought vhs strong effects was good editing and not overlayed. I will use that next time and nice demonstration video, wasn’t boring and really cool to watch✨
@sarahhauser4380
@sarahhauser4380 9 ай бұрын
homie began the analog horror trend by accident
@SnowpawShaw
@SnowpawShaw Ай бұрын
Using your hands like that makes you look like a deity toying with reality, it makes the video especially cool
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle Ай бұрын
Ha ha. Thanks.
@Pro70Crazy
@Pro70Crazy 2 ай бұрын
I like how the generation loss is like an analog tv that lost the signal to a tv channel
@japhyriddle
@japhyriddle 2 ай бұрын
I does kinda look when the dial is between stations.
@fendtfahrer8117
@fendtfahrer8117 9 ай бұрын
First it just looked nostalgic but then it got pretty creepy.
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