How the Anti-Abortion Rights Movement Took Down Roe

[@user-jd4uz9gw3h]

I feel like she should’ve covered how this might affect orphanages and children who live in foster homes. Foster homes will have more kids now with the similar resources. Not every kid will get adopted & government has to step in.

[@TokenBlackman7]

Natalists don't care. Their main concern is preventing women from having pregnancy-free sex.

[@Insanio]

Pfffttt that'll never happen, us orphans don't matter 🤣

[@markmiranda9461]

@@Insanio yes you and they do. Life is hard and you know that. You’ll be stronger than most and that will benefit you in life. Someone cared enough not to put you through the hell that would of been your “parents” there as so many kids who are neglected, sexually abused, and have to be subjected to horrible things because of selfish “parents”. You got this.

[@Myeyesburnbabyburn]

They say “just put the kid up for adoption” like it’s so easy. 100k+ foster kids every year waiting to get adopted but are less favorable than a fresh baby with no family ties. On top of adoptions are not all “free” adoptee parents in agencies are vetted out and then pay and sign papers etc. Foster homes are scarce and research shows adoption agency’s are more favorable.

[@user-tb7iz1vf7p]

It won’t, because the church offers resources and the pro-life advocates have worked tirelessly to provide women with unplanned pregnancies.

[@Kilbykins]

If this were really about being prolife, they'd be helping the mothers that WANT to have children by providing actual maternal care FOR FREE. It's about control and punishing women for having sex.

[@GeneElder.R27]

evilgelicals dont see pregnant single women as suffering a bad situation or abuse, they see sluts that deserve what they get. Its always been about not allowing women to have a consequence free sexuality like men.

[@LuisRodriguez-zi1tf]

The literally show organizations helping women. What documentary were you watching?

[@oookoshka3734]

Then you live under a rock, I've seen many provide food, clothes, baby diapers etc for mothers in need

[@lillylee2410]

You ignorant or dumb? There’s plenty on non profits helping new mothers. Problem is WTF is wrong with our education system that all these people having sex without understanding the responsibility? Don’t use contraception?

[@sands7779]

Sone charities help at earlier baby stages.

[@terrinrivera2976]

So much for women standing up for other women...this is sickening.

[@daddynoah6210]

They are standing up for the millions of babies who have been killed by abortion

[@luckyDancer100]

It makes no sense that it takes two people to have a child, but only one bares the responsibility.

[@oxide8182]

If only one has responsibility, that one is having sex with the wrong person.

[@wok7152]

@@oxide8182 and thus shouldn’t be forced to carry their child. glad you agree.

[@oxide8182]

@@wok7152 ahh so both do whatever & neither takes responsibility, got it. But I guess responsibility has become another simple word we dont know the meaning of.

[@sfxanno2311]

​@@oxide8182 doubt the mom would abandon their child to state care except of poverty,age,or other strong reasons.

[@wok7152]

@Danny G omg it’s almost like it’s not the 1930s and people have sex for fun 🤯🤯🤯

[@randomhuman4125]

Pro-life 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@michaelryan3960]

Amen.

[@username.not.known2473]

Pregnant people? Really? I think we can safely call anyone who is pregnant, a woman.

[@littlecottagegirl4757]

yes, but not all women are pregnant or will ever be pregnant

[@username.not.known2473]

@@littlecottagegirl4757 Correct. Not all women experience pregnancy, but absolutely no men experience it. Therefore anyone who is pregnant is by default a woman or girl.

[@chakiaman9375]

Ok ? 👍🏼

[@username.not.known2473]

@@littlecottagegirl4757 Yep. Clearly. But anyone who IS pregnant is by definition a woman. Or girl, sadly.

[@GC-pq6vm]

I don’t think I’d call a 12 year old child a woman. Sorry. You’re just wrong.

[@graybob4u]

Shame on the person who could watch that poor young lady and think she and her child are somehow getting what they deserve being homeless and without necessities.

[@ykMMD]

Right? My heart just breaks for her and all the others in the same situation. I can't stop crying. She's so young and trying so hard. It's absurd.

[@garyish]

Religious nutjobs are by definition heartless because they let their book (and not compassion) dictate their thoughts and actions.

[@travisconfer2255]

It used to be that on a starting wage you could support yourself and your wife and a child. The answer isn't support promiscuousity and abort the child, society needs to encourage families to stay together and better wages. Who benefits from promiscuousity, abortions, low birth rates, less family based lives, low wages, longer work weeks? Not us. Not the average person. You know who benefits from society as it currently is? Employers and people at the top. That's it

[@txsleepwalker6640]

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[@Gotostep2]

@Randall Slaughter What if that woman is a pregnant 10 year old girl that was molested by a 26 year old pedophile? Ohio still said “No abortion” -The Hill, 07/02/2022.

[@olefella7561]

The fact that we get free documentaries on KZbin by VICE News is truly a gift. 👍👍👍

[@borisisanutjob4482]

Indeed but the double adds have to go

[@akkisingh8400]

true that brother

[@Edovar]

propaganda is always free

[@enddaoccupation]

Or propaganda

[@enddaoccupation]

They dictate narratives

[@katebl2704]

I keep wanting to know where the biological fathers are - pro-life should not just be the sole burden of the womb, but the sperm provider equally.

[@jd3jefferson556]

100% agree, the fathers need to have checks garnished if they won't pay for there babies financial needs.

[@pho-kingsoup8126]

I'm a single dad raising a teenage daughter. I'm pro-choice.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

That paragraph never has anything about “why these goofy chicks keep choosing deadbeats that for sure aren’t gonna stick around”. Nobody Eve asks that or talks about what losers these chicks are.

[@jd3jefferson556]

@@pho-kingsoup8126 then you are a cowardly father, that doesn't support your daughter at all, you only support the death of your own grandchildren. You are a monster. That's coming from a single father myself.

[@honeyst6133]

There is a law that 15 weeks into the pregnancy fathers have to pay child support but then the death rates will go up because some of these fathers do not want to pay child support so they think killing the mother is a better option

[@MaruskaStarshaya]

Death penalties still exist and they hypocritically talk about "saving a life", LOL

[@RollinRocker]

Death for evil killers though. A bit different than an innocent unborn child.

[@RollinRocker]

@@Lewtable Ah yes the ol' making excuses for POS criminals. Like it's not their fault alone when they decide to pull the trigger. Yeah I've heard that too bad it's not true.

[@MaruskaStarshaya]

@@RollinRocker are you 100% sure in each case a charged person is guilty? Would you like to watch a statistics of innocent people being sentenced?

[@VeganGoat96]

@@RollinRocker Are you Vegan, lol.

[@billyb4790]

So you'd defend a rapist but you'd willingly kill an innocent baby?

[@pho-kingsoup8126]

"I forbid you from having control over your own body and don't you dare tell me I have to wear a mask into Walmart during an airborne pandemic! That's tyranny!"

[@joshuacox5428]

Pandemic oh no lololol

[@pho-kingsoup8126]

@@joshuacox5428 More American's dead than any war since your civil war...but hey, no biggie. 'murica! #1 in covid deaths!

[@dearhunter7206]

You mean plandemic.

[@myparceltape1169]

Men wear masks so nobody needs abortions. Only masks?

[@sym8246-f5c]

Masks? I thought you believed in science. Masks are the pull out and pray of epidemiology.

[@kathryncumberland]

I had an abortion when I was a teenager, when I was incapable of and honestly unwilling to be a mother. Now, twenty-five years later, I'm the mother of four very loved, very wanted children. I was in an unstable and abusive relationship. Now I'm in a loving and healthy marriage. I was in high school and would have had to drop out to have and raise the baby. Now I'm a college graduate with B.A. I worked in the food service industry for minimum wage. Now I work for an educational software company and have a yearly household income of $107K. My entire life would have changed for the worse of I'd been forced to have that baby. Abortion enabled me to work toward the life I wanted so that, when I did eventually have my four children, they and I are stable, happy, and healthy.

[@Censortubes]

Congrats plenty more had kids and did more. You arent special. You are literally a baby killer. Congrats you took a life because of your own bad choices and still ended up at the end of the totem pole in life. 107k for a house hold?? Bk managers earn that.

[@Censortubes]

Imagine taking a life and bragging about still living at poverty level. LMFAO . this entire story is a lie as you will see below.

[@elbinx760]

then you don't know poverty my amigo....🤷

[@Censortubes]

@@elbinx760 hey look its the hanger baby. Still angry your mom didn't finish the job?

[@cL-bf2ug]

So you sacrificed your child over wealth. That’s evil.

[@jhunt5578]

There's supposed to be a separation of church and state. Secular people and members of non Christian religions shouldn't have to follow these anti-abortion religious rules. America is messed up.

[@secularsekai8910]

Agreed

[@lobsterpots]

We protested for 50 years bro, respect our point of view

[@TheRealIG]

Blue states exist dont they? What about the rest of us who dont want your secular militant atheist progressive religion forced onto us?

[@TheRealIG]

You guys seem like you wont be satisfied until you dominate everybody and everything with your “secular” beliefs… a little creepy. And seeing the state of canada and australia now, a little scary.

[@vasectomyfail442]

try jamaica... oh wait it's illegal there... or angola, whoops it's illegal there too ... maybe egypt is better than america? no, no... it's illegal in egypt. i wonder how many christians are in egypt? islam is the official religion there. hmm what about the congo? maybe you can get a legal abortion in iraq? is iraq a christian nation? or maybe just maybe america has states where abortion is completely legal, california or oregon for example

[@HailLibertasMedia]

One thing that I feel like is often overlooked, is that in the US there are no safety nets for parents and the unemployed if one decides to (or forced) to have a child at a time when they don’t have the means to raise one.

[@gogudelagaze1585]

It's not a concern to these religious nuts, because after all, poverty guarantees the kingdom of heaven!

[@JesseLH88]

Except for food stamps, wic, social security disability, and like a bajillion other social programs at various levels

[@connievino4226]

Forced to have a child. Wow. Forced wow. He or she was a child at the moment of conception. Someone has to speak for them. So many programs here in the United States. So many condoms.

[@Tamster4886]

@@connievino4226 but you are so very wrong. A single cell at conception is ‘not’ a child, it’s a human cell - then it becomes a zygote - then it becomes an embryo - then it becomes a fetus - then, after 9 months, it becomes a fully formed human. Calling a clump of cells a ‘child’ is a falsehood; and one that helps infiltrates the misinformation, lies, and propaganda that the pro-forced-birth movement is pushing. Those who are forcing people to carry a pregnancy and birth unwanted children are selfish. They obviously don’t care about the unwanted baby once born; and they certainly don’t care about those being forced to carry a pregnancy. Furthermore, calling women and their doctors killers for ending a ‘pregnancy’ is so beyond ignorant it’s not even laughable - it’s sick. Either one will educate themselves or not. But if they refuse to educate themselves, they have very little room to voice their frustrations as they won’t be heard. Those who support the overturning of RvW, and do ‘nothing’ to help better the broken system are ‘not’ pro-life - but instead, are responsible for supporting the extreme amount of unwanted children suffering; and possibly crippling our overwhelmed foster system.

[@connievino4226]

@@Tamster4886 Your a pedant, you have to correct. I know all the stages of life. Baby, child,. teen adult all come from a cell that is a human baby. Please don't talk to me again.

[@yotsugiononoki2842]

Its crazy the person helping make these laws has no clue about the costs of having a baby or how much the state even pays to help or even the risks to the mothers health. Just disgusting

[@ykMMD]

@@sokunine BUT PEOPLE CAN GET PREGNANT EVEN WHEN USING PROTECTION. Go fucking read books, research and stats on the matter. Life is more complicated than you make it out to be. No woman is happy to get an abortion ffs. The US shames teenagers and young adults for getting pregnant but won't even provide medically accurate sex ed. You guys are absurd.

[@garyish]

@@sokunine Contraception is not 100% effective 🙄 Says on the box itself And some women are raped.. Think outside your narrow mind

[@sendthis9480]

Ummm…you’re upset because they didn’t balance their morals against dollars?!?!?

[@sharkie3491]

@@sokunine protection isn’t 100%. i’m assuming you wouldn’t know anything about sexual intercourse, judging by your comment. by the way - most rapists don’t use condoms - especially when they are your abusive partner.

[@carolinahernandez627]

We know the costs. That why it’s cheaper to be on BC of any sort permanent or not and get an abortion early on.

[@devindoherty8728]

I'm a teacher and I'm going to lay down a hard truth. In our society, people (particularly poor people) are not given support to manage their own lives. I've seen so many children raised by people who frankly don't have the ability to properly care for children. I'd say maybe 2/3 to 3/4 of people are simply not fit to have children. Forcing these people to have children they are simply not mentally or physically capable of taking care of will do nothing.

[@ibrahimhassan711]

Put the kids in adoption then let them have a chance. Killing them is not a mercy. Death is worse then poverty if it wasn’t poor people would be hanging themselves

[@popycute13]

@@ibrahimhassan711 here we go again... adoption? how many friends of your are adoptee? have you ever wonder why the adoption centre population was never zero? kids being pushed here and there, no permanent place to call home. It's like if you give birth and throw away because your duty was done, to not care about a child you created into the world! Sometimes it is ethical to be ready to give birth to your child once you know your capacity toward childcare rather than suffering through life. The mother has to stop studying if she's a student, so here's more problem, low education pregnant women mentally forced to make money to raise a child they don't want to bear.

[@laltanchhana316]

i think they should used protection, they get pregnant out of their carelessness and failure to control their desires and instead of trying their best to raise the child they get an abortion

[@ChristinaStarlight]

@@laltanchhana316 Protection does not protect 100%. Secondly blame the pro-live movement for giving bad sex-ed in which they tell people that condoms do not work. The pro-live movement prefers to teach young people that they are used chewing gum if they ever have sex, then making sure to teach how to prevent pregnancies.

[@hj4569]

You have an overrated job and are an overrated person. “Those who cant, teach” you couldnt. The laziest job in the world

[@RoastedSaltedPeanut]

Making abortions illegal doesn't make it "unthinkable" or "unnecessary". It just prevents people from getting safe abortions

[@jennyleblanc2941]

if people are willing to go the great stride to get rid of a baby by all means do it

[@penguinguy9820]

Changing laws doesn't change people's beliefs to match yours. But if you change the laws, you can make people ACT like they have your beleifs, because the alternative is jail.

[@eNtr0Py13]

Right, it just reintroduces the horror of young women and girls feeling like they're trapped with their backs against the wall and no way out, resorting to self-performed procedures that can often leave the mother mutilated or worse. These efforts by the right wing are part of an entirely selfish mission on their part to please the protagonists of their almighty fiction. Unfortunately their fears of death and of their "god" are stronger than the love any of them have for their sisters, wives or daughters... pretty pathetic if you ask me.

[@nwonomad]

The same applies to guns, Banning legal guns won't do anything to stop gun crime

[@milhouse14]

@@nwonomad Japan, Uk, Singapore, Australia and Germany are the 5 countries with the strictest gun law. They practically have no gun crimes

[@sarahblaquiere3121]

It's easy enough to say, "In an ideal society, no woman would seek an abortion, or ever need one." But I don't see anti-choice activists pushing to improve society, to ensure that all women and children have access to resources and opportunities - no, they're just ensuring that more women and children will struggle to survive in a society that only cares about profit, not people.

[@mathildeyoung1823]

I vote for the best way to improve society - by making the economy great so that people have jobs and can take care of their own families and afford to buy what their family needs... And I also support pregnancy resource centers - places that help women who are struggling (e.g. help them find jobs, help them sign up for benefits they might not have known the were eligible for, giving them items for their babies etc.). It's pro-aborts that don't support pregnancy resource centers, they just support killing.

[@Ashelirria]

@@mathildeyoung1823 "making the economy great" means nothing when there's no magic wand that can make an economy "great", that's why it's a ridiculous statement to make. And even then, whether an economy is great or not, abortion should simply be one of the options, whether you believe it's "killing" or not doesn't matter.

[@mathildeyoung1823]

@@Ashelirria Policies can be put in place to improve the economy. Abortion does k!ll a human being and k!lling an defenseless human being to make your life easier should never be an option.

[@Kiz-0]

@@mathildeyoung1823 What is a "human" to you?

[@mathildeyoung1823]

@@Kiz-0 A human being is a living member of our species.

[@jessemorden7386]

This is pathetic. They keep saying freedom of speech but in all reality it part of their religious beliefs. How can you tell a women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. What happened to separation of church and state?

[@albertgreen8347]

Separation of church and state was never in the constitution. Furthermore, the idea was to protect the church from the state and not the other way around. No one cares what women do to their bodies. Have you been around in the last 10 years? Women have become ugly with all of their piercings and their tattoos. Strangely no one said anything about THEIR BODIES in this situation. Why not? It's because we care about the other body that is being killed in the abortion.

[@markwilkie7633]

The baby is not their body

[@TheREVOLUTION690]

@@markwilkie7633 it is when it’s inside as fetus. The fetus is much like a parasite, feeding off the mothers life force, all parasites must be destroyed at all costs !

[@mv_n6203]

@@markwilkie7633 It’s not a natural born citizen either so it doesn’t have constitutional rights.

[@okbutatwhatcost9087]

@@markwilkie7633 Sure but it need the mother’s body for nutrients and development.

[@TonTon_X]

A lot of the alternatives are pushing more kids in an already overburdened, underfounded foster care/orphanage system. People already complain so much about food stamps and homelessness. I just don't see how the current system can handle a spike of "unwated" children or poor families.

[@nbaclashofclanspro9198]

An alternative is females being more responsible for their actions and not pretend to be oppressed because they can’t kill their children.

[@Shrimp_Insurance]

There are thousands of couples begging to adopt newborns, the demand outweighs the supply. These children aren't going to grow up like little orphan annie. Not to mention a very large amount of children in foster care are not up for adoption, they are there because they were removed from their parents and pending being either returned or moved to relatives. So using foster care numbers as an argument to say "see look at these unadopted kids!" is disingenuous. And finally, recommending extermination as a fix for the problem is beyond disgusting.

[@TonTon_X]

@@Shrimp_Insurance I see what you are saying. However I don't see how this is really addressing what I am saying. My main concern is that the government / private funding is not there for this situation. And as much as people ideolize certain humanitarian concepts a lot of people really don't want to fund it and deal with the reality of what funding and support may look like (often times increased taxes).

[@Shrimp_Insurance]

@@TonTon_X Ah, so you don't want to pay for it so you'd rather see these undesirable people exterminated. Gotcha.

[@mohamedbenhamida5652]

@@TonTon_X If it meant having as good of social services and as low prices as western/northern europe I willl gladly pay more tax. The almost free healthcare they have in France cost their government way less tax money than the US. SO yeah the problem here isn't lack of resources it is failure to manage. However we can' t justify mass killing by the inadequacy of politicians

[@achyleftistwitch]

When she said she wants to make abortion unthinkable and unnecessary....ok well I sure hope she's working on bills to make min wage a living wage, provide universal healthcare, universal childcare, and funding education....

[@einienj3281]

No chance! They don't care...

[@Amanda-zg9pz]

But you know she’s not. The hypocrisy of the pro-birth crowed knows no limits.

[@XD2021]

Well if u use rubber or not having s.. in the first place those things would not gonna happen to you, would they?

[@achyleftistwitch]

@XD condoms have less than an 80% effective rate and guys will literally try to take them off on you sometimes, if they agree to wear them at all. Sex is not a luxury of the rich. It is a natural activity. Every species regulates its reproduction based on resources available. Educate yourself.

[@XD2021]

@@achyleftistwitch oh so you rather k... The unborn baby but not trying to prevent it from its happen. Nice ☺️ Edit: Why u deleted ur reply 😂

[@1995marixsa]

Religion aside and right foward, I refuse to give my rapist the right to take 9 more month away from me and make me more traumatize than what he already did, you won't take care of that unwanted child, orphanages are filled and inhumaine,adoption centers are messed up and most children don't find a loving home once they hit 18 they kicked them to the curb because you're an adult now and can go fence for yourself and how can you give that child a right living if you're not stable both economically nor mentally. Finally one of my right is the gift of choice therefore I chose who to give a child to and when if I want a child.Abortion should be safe for those that want it, if you don't want one don't get one, but it should be available for those that do need one.

[@petuniapop7819]

Kaiya is so brave for going on record with her story right now. Thank you for making the decision to share your story, you are so much braver in your 18 years than many of our elected officials.

[@LowerYourExpectationsPleb]

My heart goes out to all the babies that have been dismembered, their heads cut off even though they were able to hear, taste, had a heartbeat, and were dumped in containers after their organs were sold to researchers. I couldn't care less for hoes who can't keep their legs shut though.

[@j.e.bennett2997]

Kayia is a pawn for corporate press … gonna hate she did

[@cL-bf2ug]

“Brave” it legit just makes her look stupid

[@petef.4361]

She is a murderer and a coward.

[@iamcasihart]

@@j.e.bennett2997 Don’t presume to know what she will feel. I had my abortion 21 years ago. No regrets. No guilt. No melodramatic bullshit like the propaganda you’ve had shoved down your throat and happily swallowed. The *vast majority* of us feel profound relief after our abortion. We don’t like it, but we do what is best for ourselves, our health, and our futures. It is incredibly painful, personal, and emotional for most of us, and there are so many factors and reasons. One in 4 women will have an abortion in her lifetime. I am one, and I personally know about a dozen women who’ve also had at least one abortion. None of them found it “convenient” or a happy event, but a necessary medical procedure. Stop dehumanizing women. Stop demonizing women. Stop presuming to know what a woman feels. Stop policing our bodies. Mind your business. ✌🏻

[@tinashe7939]

Men need to take responsibility or be legally enforced to do so from birth. This young lady is running around looking for a job with a newborn, yet the father is out there free to piss about.

[@jannanijland5336]

And screw around

[@mr.keptitreal]

You go help her. Better yet have her help herself. She should have got the job before the baby. Save the Babies

[@tommartyn524]

Like Dave Chappelle said, “your body your choice. My wallet my choice “

[@yveje9720]

Yep I agree more emphasis needs to be placed on the fathers in these situations

[@tommartyn524]

@@yveje9720 more emphasis needs to be put on marriage. Why are women having sex with dead beat men? Men already pay 85% of all child support. What more can be done? How about women be careful with who they have sex with

[@Amarieethepriest]

Ok so this is something right here: "An ideal America is where Americans are free to live and work according to their beliefs; where marriages and families are strong and healthy. That I think that is ideal for everyone." Ok so they are trying to cancel pro choice options, gay marriage, and contraception. None of this will help with keeping families and marriages healthy and strong. It was never about saving 'babies'. This is about controlling women and having power.

[@joschafinger126]

For fundamentalists, "freedom" is the freedom to force their views on everyone else while having the money to break their own rules.

[@marcoardila1977]

Pro-abortion industry is very lucrative, they will lose millions of dollars. How can a pro-life organization win from making abortion illegal?

[@Len-jk4zi]

Control.

[@julzrouge369]

@@Len-jk4zi What do you mean exactly? Control over whom and what would be the actual win for them if they would gain the control? Nowadays power and control is used to make money.... so how could they make money out of children not being killed (which is what doctors and hospitals do when they perform abortions)? Genuinely interested in your answer. 😌

[@Len-jk4zi]

@@julzrouge369 What does the Chinese Communist Party gain from having total control over their people? I don't know how the overpopulists benefit exactly from overpopulating us, but they're doing it for a reason.

[@julzrouge369]

@@Len-jk4zi So you assume/claim that the "pro-life-overpopulists" want somehow control, but you have nothing to back that theory up? There are lots of facts about how the Chinese or NK Governments are using their control over people. Overpopulation is another controversial topic to bring up so easily.... look at Japan or South Korea (and other countries), where they are actually struggling with the opposite.

[@Len-jk4zi]

@@julzrouge369 What I have to back that theory up is human nature. Every political group wants the power to rule with an iron fist; whilst I don't understand this group's motives for total control, they're very clearly corrupt like any other. Japan is struggling with overpopulation AND an aging population. Life isn't good enough over there for people to want to have children because there's too many people there, and the populace is choosing not to have children very suddenly to mitigate it. It would be better if the population had grown significantly slower in the first place.

[@zoex7993]

This reporter is incredible. I can only imagine the pressure they must be under in these interviews- asking such tough questions, really hearing the other person’s response, having to react to the unpredictable on the spot, & maintaining composure throughout some of the most challenging topics we have today. Mad respect.

[@roberthouston3809]

This "reporter" is a witch

[@bobjenkins2022]

All while being “unbiased” 😂💀

[@bobjenkins2022]

@@mickjames210 oh totally, very “descend” 😂😂

[@mfraye12]

@@bobjenkins2022 Documentaries are not meant to be unbiased.

[@bobjenkins2022]

@@mfraye12 what world do you live in? 😂

[@yotsugiononoki2842]

The states with strictest abortion laws have the least social welfare. $40 per month in Kansas. Thats not even a week with a baby. Its about punsihing women and the poor as per usual for republicans.

[@venlafaxinedomperidone8377]

The way it shud be. Why shud the state pay if hoes can’t close their legs

[@nbaclashofclanspro9198]

You can always put the child up for adoption, or just don’t bother getting pregnant. Why is the leap to murdering the child the go-to answer for you fools.

[@Censortubes]

Good, you shouldn't be incentivize by the gov to not hold your own hand thru life..

[@Censortubes]

4 month old ccp account. Never fails..

[@stuartstuart866]

Punishing women and the poor? How about accountability for their own decisions? How about making better choices in life? I don’t want to pay the bill for someone else’s decisions……..is that “punishing” them? There are consequences for decisions, and if you go through life making bad decisions, others shouldn’t be shamed in to bailing you out.

[@KingRevvi]

“How do you plan to help the babies & new mothers who would have had an abortion that cannot afford a raising child and healthcare?” I’d love to hear this question in every single interview.

[@michelledavies2197]

Exactly where are all these so goodie, goodie two shoestring, I know praying with their hands in the air praying to an imaginary sky daddy.

[@tommartyn524]

I’ll never understand how this is the immediate question that pro choicers have. The real question is, why are so many women having sex with men they don’t want to have kids with? You people are proving why marriage was supposed to be so sacred and important

[@ceejw]

@@tommartyn524 "why are so many women having sex with men they don’t want to have kids with?" Because they're not trying to have a kid, they're just having sex. Is that really hard to understand for you?

[@tommartyn524]

@@ceejw multiple studies show that the vast majority of women regret the vast majority of their sexual partners. Once again women are advocating for their own misery. Women who live this “ sl#t life show far more signs of depression and mental illness. Again, you people aren’t addressing the real issues. This abortion debate that you’re having won’t solve anything. Not only that, but you’re attempting to justify killing babies in the process. I literally don’t know how you make that ok in your own mind

[@c.g.jonesze9089]

A miserable life is still a life. Having a baby is a choice in almost all cases, but taking the choice to end an pregnancy aka a baby life is not a choice

[@nicoa5811]

Thank God for the ADF.. We as Americans need to quit allowing our children to be sexualized at a young age and teach the value in abstinence until marriage... There will be no need for such a high demand for abortion.. Praise God and pray He saves oir kids

[@luvahadowsdolls]

Friendly reminder that although the ADF considers themselves to be "defenders" of religious freedom, it has supported Miracle Hill Ministries (which has barred faith groups outside of Protestants from fostering children), and also in general supported the idea that prospective foster parents can be denied on basis of faith. This is also on top of their initiatives to criminalize homosexuality.

[@FerociousPancake888]

It was very striking to me how often she used the term “freedom.”

[@09gamecock]

Yes. They did this in SC where I am originally from preventing a Jewish family from fostering.

[@haveabanana2930]

They are extremists, and they're taking over the country. How can they claim to defend religious freedom when they don't believe that all religions are equal, and having no religion at all is just as valid? Religious freedom also means freedom from religion.

[@mased-v2j]

@@FerociousPancake888 You see this a lot with fascist groups. For example how China's military is the People's Liberation Army and the bill that stripped away American privacy is The Patriot Act. It's all projection. They're so desperate to convince us they aren't fascists that they go way too heavy on the use of buzzwords like freedom, liberation, patriot, justice, etc.

[@ashleyulysse5908]

well thats horrible

[@truthnotlies]

Respect to the people actually going out, trying to feed and clothe women and stand by them and their infants. That's a real love for women, as far as I can see. Real love is shown in consistent actions.

[@ykMMD]

Most of these maternity christian centers offer you six months to one year of help once the baby is born, that's it. After that, you're on your own! Good luck to the single mothers who already have kids to take care of and no money and no insurance and no job.

[@truthnotlies]

@@ykMMD yeah! You're right, they shouldn't bother doing anything then!!! We should all take your attitude instead; let's not bother to help our neighbours because, since we can't completely overhaul their entire life with a snap of our fingers, there's no point to doing anything good at all! Thanks for the enlightenment.

[@fatemaalkhanaizi4253]

@@truthnotlies what time time will b

[@fatemaalkhanaizi4253]

@@ykMMD will trrr the studyizyist tuddss da set trustisyiyss guy to n &9& a 🤪😌🤓📺📚hi

[@fatemaalkhanaizi4253]

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[@NunyaHarmonee]

At 6 months, I was mentally and physically sick and exhausted from hyperemesis Gravidarum. Nothing was helping to reduce the nausea and vomiting. I had passed out on the side of the road and ended up in the hospital. I wanted to end my pregnancy before 6 months but more at that time. I wanted to end my life. Anti-abortion laws will lead to an increase in suicides. I'm so sad for those unable to access abortion.

[@562mjohnson]

Abortion also leads to suicide. They don't tell you that though.

[@jd3jefferson556]

You realize many women fall into despair and some kill themselves after killing there own babies right?

[@AthanasiaOrtholady]

How about you take your meassures not to get pregnant???And becareful when u open your legs!!!

[@DYLAN102001]

Keep your legs closed if you don't want a pregnancy.

[@jaybee9269]

@@jd3jefferson556 >> No. No, she doesn’t.

[@maggie4619]

To the mother who has her baby , and she is trying to make it , her baby smile is a blessing , I really hope she gets the assistance she needs , she truly is a strong women and I admire her truly , we need a stronger support system for mothers who are doing it alone

[@mynameiseve.1]

thats the thing that irritates the shhh out of me. why can america not set up that support system and THEN do the unthinkable to ban abortion. for me and i am european, i was devastated wen the supreme court overturned r v.w

[@annabouillon8797]

​@@mynameiseve.1 just think now the pressure is on the govt. to rise up and support single mothers . I think abortion was an excuse for governments to not do that.

[@mynameiseve.1]

​@@annabouillon8797nobody is gonna rise up to support women especially single mothers. I'm pretty sure overturning r v. w was a response to the #metoo movement among other things to show women that they have no power and a big F You finger. Nobody is pro life, it's all pro birth and wat happens after that nobody cares. It's so unthinkable in our day and age. I'm from ireland which is super religious and iv lived in Germany now 20yrs which is not so much. Yet both countries support abortion, support single mothers, free med insurance etc etc etc. America what are you doing?? (I dont mean you)

[@dernvader6876]

Until these people are willing to pay for these children - everything until 18, they have ZERO RIGHT - to tell anyone what to do... they care about the fetus, but the actual people they grow in to; they don't even consider at all ... disgusting...

[@IndigoBellyDance]

And pay for the women’s loss of wages for the reality she now has to take the time to b a mom, which means she will automatically earn less $$ (stats show this).

[@nbaclashofclanspro9198]

How about the government pay for children on child support instead of making men pay? People should be more responsible and they shouldn’t sacrifice their child’s life to erase their mistakes. Stop trying to shame others for not wanting to pay for your problems.

[@jennyleblanc2941]

@@IndigoBellyDance amoug us?

[@cmendoza1094]

The Govt. Want's to be a baby daddy, I'm all for it. Maybe get them in the National Guard, a little free college. Some Universal Income, SET! We'll be the greatest nation in the world. Instead , 18 years from now, we will have more crime, more junking and more children being born fatherless....

[@cmendoza1094]

@@nbaclashofclanspro9198 What are you going on about? It's only problem because people like you are forcing these births to come to term. It's like banning condoms and expecting people not to complain about unwanted pregnancies. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?

[@hippocraticly6167]

40:54 'ideal America is where everyone can live according to their beliefs'... as long as it's hers. These people's hypocrisy is disgusting

[@GeneElder.R27]

agreed. they dont care that they are forcing their beliefs on others. they are indoctrinated to believe that forcing their beliefs on others is good and righteous. They have no idea how destructive their missionary ideals are to those who do not want their intrusion in their lives.

[@hippocraticly6167]

They're like if Christian missionaries knew they'd spread disease but did it anyway for 'the Lord and savior' both words being pretty ironic in this case

[@larkinwise852]

Gianna Toboni is an Amazing reporter. Thank you Vice for employing such a strong person to take on this topic. I have been watching what Gianna/Vice has been putting out the past couple months and it really needs to be Mainstream. Her interviewing the Teens in Mississippi and now these interviews in this episode asking very thought out direct questions without getting more defensive or taking a side is what a true reporter should be. Yes you can tell which way this might be leaning but every thing has a lean and overall this is showing both sides very well. Thank you Gianna and Vice keep up the amazing work.

[@johnsmb5435]

Being pro life, I would say that Giana did a fair job getting stories from both sides.

[@thetillerwiller4696]

@@johnsmb5435 she is definitely a great reporter

[@gabbym333]

Hearing her talk to the ADF lady was admirable. I would definitely have gotten angry during that conversation.

[@DeaDiabola]

@@johnsmb5435 pro forced birth***

[@jonstone9741]

@@DeaDiabola You are right. Thank you.

[@lizaw1]

Abortion is not healthcare. There are better solutions than ending a human life. All the arguments that pro-life people gave are true and caring of the people whose lifes they know are affected. We need better education and set the bar higher for society. I pray God changes the mind and hearts of people to see that murder is NOT the way.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

Yes it is. And you need a better education - look up anencephaly and molar pregnancy. You better fucking hope it doesn't happen to you.

[@Cellie-th3cm]

Abortion is healthcare.

[@mutekuro]

Interesting to watch this right after watching a DW documentary on postpartum psychosis where women killed their children because post natal care was too insufficient to identify the symptoms. Every life is sacred sounds nice, but what are we as a society actually doing to help women be successful if they do in fact have the children? Apparently nothing.

[@To-mos]

Peter Griffin : I'm here to save the unborn Brian. After they're born they can go f*&k themselves

[@b1battledroid476]

the child only matters when its not born, they couldnt care less for what happens after its born

[@andrewlucchese6267]

Totally untrue, but if you're watching this propaganda and thinking it's true, you likely ate that untruth.

[@DJVideso]

@@b1battledroid476 This is literally untrue, Pro-Lifers push to help children with education as well, and get CRT out of schools, as CRT creates a horrible victim mindset.

[@eliesh3833]

​@@DJVideso "We want to help children's education, but let's deprive them of the truth by rendering them ignorant about our racist history. Talking about it just makes us feel too uncomfortable."

[@rushmatic]

I think it’s interesting that ADF is very cautious with what they say; it’s very possible for the abortion law to be reversed again but it could take 50 years.

[@markwilkie7633]

In 50 years abortion will be banned nationwide and viewed as a stain on the history of the country

[@paulettejemmott3900]

The supreme court actually just switched the decision back to the individual states. It's false for people to say that decision took away every woman's right to an abortion. Many states like New York are making sure women get to choose what works for them. They're also protecting women that travel from states that banned the procedure. Even Florida courts says their state constitution gives women the right to privacy. The supreme court decision was not a blanket ban across the country.

[@cL-bf2ug]

Hopefully never

[@prexy_Pasta]

tbh...with the mindset of the current youth...Might as well move out the country and hope that the new nation i will be arriving at has actual humans in it.

[@rustyhangerabortions]

@@prexy_Pasta Not if my mandatory abortion law passes.

[@j.t.8685]

Pro-life movement* But then again, Vice is very left.

[@louiseharpth1267]

Being a foster child myself I have often just wished my parents weren’t allowed to have me, they both have schizophrenia and I was forced to be with them for the first two weeks of my life, and afterwards visit them and get to know them. I even believe that people who can not raise a child should simply not have them. I often just wish I was never born into such chaos and trauma. Every child deserves parents but not every parent deserves children.

[@ibrahimhassan711]

would you have preferred to not exist? If that's the case nobody is stopping you from ending your suffering.

[@taylea11]

sooo you would rather have never lived at all?

[@michaelrunk5930]

​@@taylea11 I think that was the general point she making. I hope one day she finds peace and that there are reasons to be alive. Yet what sad is she not alone. Por-lifers don't want to face some ugly truths about being born and the environment you born in to. They don't want to face that when you suffer several a traumatic abuse especially over rhe course of your childhood it leaves you wishing you had never been born. The objective should be to eliminate abortion not through force but by creating systems and expanding on them that will really help women care for their child on a mental, emotional, physical and financial level so they don't need to turn to abuse. It means fixing Child Service and Foster care so children who end up in foster care are treated with love and kindness and dignity and respect they deserve. which is not the case at the moment. 38% of children in foster care are abused and neglected. Those just cases we know about or that CPS isn't turning a blind eye to. Even in the cases we're these kids aren't abused or neglected per say they are treated as a meal ticket and often times treated as if they don't belong any where. All of those things take a toll on kids and effects them and will most likely deeply impact them in a negative way. Which can then impact society. We can change all that and fix it make it better. Pro-lifers and also pro-choicers ignore these issue and these issues will be deeply impacted by anti-abortion laws.

[@Devoted_Catholic777]

You’re good happy you weren’t aborted

[@ElAye240]

I appreciate you, I appreciate you sharing, I wish you peace in this crazy messed up world that we are all living in. it's not easy, and I salute you. much love, 🙇‍♂

[@mississipi1103]

Why can't we have abortion clinics for girls and women that wants an abortion and also have these motherhood care for women that wants to birth a baby ? Just respecting everybody's choice and living together

[@yazx2434]

because that would give women the choice and freedom that religious republicans pretend they want. They are FAR more concerned with punishing anything outside of their narrow minded ideology. They also FIRMLY believe people who are poor or victims did something to deserve it and are completely ok with a life-long punishment for minor offenses. They are far more concerned with pushing, pressuring, and even forcing, their lifestyles on others in order to feel more comfortable themselves. They are far more concerned with keeping all their money to themselves and just paying lip service to "we love you and we care and we are here for you... so long as no one ACTUALLY makes me do it" Republicans believe in financial autonomy, not personal autonomy.

[@kittychancool888]

That would be too logical

[@katkatkatkat463]

Because Republican fascists believe "freedom of religion" means freedom for their religion to dominate and oppress everyone.

[@the2ndcoming135]

Probably because at some point people will use them for the wrong reasons like they’re doing with guns now. We’re still trying to interpret and figure it out. Ultimately, we’re toeing the line of euthanasia.

[@WeOnlySayHelloReal]

they want to control women's bodies.

[@Jalafian]

Why can't people get the picture that if you don't want an abortion, you don't have to get one. But you can't make someone else's decision. Especially when you don't care about what happens to the child after it gets here. If you complain about your taxes helping someone that needs assistance with children they can't take care of please be quiet. You can't have it both ways.

[@Mr.Anonymous1987GS]

Don't get pregnant if you aren't able to raise a child then

[@Jalafian]

@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS by that logic the world would likely never be repopulated with amount of "unplanned" pregnancies thatmake up our society today. In a perfect world that would happen. But, that's not the world is, nor is it the world has ever been. Even before roe was established. If you could only get pregnant if you were financially well off the working class would never have kids. Either way, you don't want an abortion don't get one. Don't want a woman you're sleeping with to have one, don't get her pregnant. Better yet keep it in your pants and eliminate the risk. But it's mighty easy to force someone to keep a child you don't have to carry, you don't have to feed, you don't have to take to the doctor, you don't have educate, don't have to protect, don't have to risk your life for simply by going into labor. Even if you did have that ability as a woman, you still wouldn't have the right to tell ANOTHER woman what to do. You're sitting on the sidelines. When that baby gets here you won't give a damn about what it will be born into. I'd actually believe pro life people were really concerned if the concern lasted past the smack the doctor gives the baby after it makes it out the womb. But, you don't. Where's all the uproar and plans for resources to help all these women that'll be forced to bring babies to term they didn't want. What physiological damage could be done with a mother caring for a child she didn't want to have but was forced to keep. I'm sure that'll be a healthy environment. Put them up for adoption you'll say. Yeah that's not a guaranteed solution either. Every child isn't going to get adopted. Some will go to bad homes, some will age out of the system at 18 and be thrown out onto the street because they're now adults. You gonna fake care about them then? You have no skin in the game so your opinion shouldn't matter for the person who is directly affected. There shouldn't be a group mandate on a personal decision.

[@Hereticked]

@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS Why do you hate freedom? Young adults and poor people get to have sex too. Sometimes, even when using contraception, pregnancies can occur. And the right wing zealots trying to ban abortion will try to ban contraception next. Just admit you hate women and want to control them. Everyone who hasn't been brainwashed with religious nonsense can see it, plain as day.

[@hailstormhehehehe2245]

@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS assault ??? coercion ??? helloooo..

[@leahflower9924]

Why are all the states banning it all poor lol I'm in new jersey a rich state and it's all good here

[@emmymartinez7497]

Pro life is a better term!

[@dodonixx953]

Are you vegan? Because i this name is inaccurate if you arnt.

[@junoji]

I understand there is debate on when life begins and when a termination is appropriate, but to take away the whole procedure is crazy. Because ultimately a woman’s right to bodily autonomy should not have to be a debate. It’s not that difficult to understand that pregnancy and childbirth should not be forced upon anyone. Whether or not an embryo has ‘life’ should be secondary to the rights of women who are absolutely alive. Disregarding the pain and risks that come with childbirth, pregnancy alone is a strain physically and mentally. People don’t understand that just yelling adoption at women is not good enough. Especially when the healthcare, foster care system and social welfare in the US is as tragic as it is. The overturning of Roe is a step back for everyone, but it is especially a setback for the working class, for people living pay check to pay check, for POC women, for black birth givers who experience maternal mortality 2-3 times higher than white birth givers and for those whose pregnancies came from SA. It is a step back from modern medicine. And it is a disgrace. I understand if you don’t agree with abortion for yourself, but just because it’s not for you, it doesn’t mean it’s not for anyone else either. Because sure, women can be forced to give birth, but once the child goes into the system, the stats of SA, physical abuse, addiction, suicide skyrocket. And if you say you don’t agree with abortion yourself but would understand if someone else had the procedure due to circumstances, that is pro-choice. Pro-choice is believing in choice, choices women should have.

[@DYLAN102001]

Women also have the choice to not get pregnant in the first place. Keep your legs closed.

[@sendthis9480]

Sooo…until “what a fetus is” is decided….we’re willing to roll the dice?!?!?! WHAT IF science finds out it’s a baby, seconds after insemination. There IS that chance. You’re willing to go ahead with the possible murder of babies…before knowing for sure?!?!?!?!!!??!?!? That seems EXTREMELY irresponsible. There really should be ZERO discussion, about ANY of this, until the science is figured out.

[@JP-hj1il]

prolifers are anti women. they want white women to be baby factories like stepford wives were.

[@sendthis9480]

WOW!!!!! Yeah….no. IF it is a “life” at embryo….it’s a “life”. That’s it. It’s not “secondary” and the mom is more important. WOW!!! Just….WOW! When did women get SOOOOOOOO weak and self-righteous?!?!?? A woman’s body is more important than another “life”??!!?!!?? WOW!!!!

[@BobyourUncle]

@@sendthis9480 It's only a life when it is able to sustain itself autonomously - up until that point it is nothing but a parasite...

[@MartrieceJ]

So...they want to take a homeless person hooked on drugs with a documented mental disability, that's pregnant, and train them in 9 months to be a good mother?... This will be a major issue in the future

[@thandi9071]

A worse issue is the support of murdering babies

[@jonbanks653]

It is like when I watch football in my living room, comfy, snacks in hand. Oh yes I can tell the QB exactly what he should do on every play. Put me out there with 4 guys weighing 300lb each rushing at me and the situation really gets different.

[@tylertrichell8204]

You have a better answer Deon? Let’s here it. God forbid people we keep women from killing their babies and making them better mothers. That would be fucked up right?

[@lillylee2410]

I could think of a dozen ways of contraceptives, and semi permanent options for people with those issues. In some countries these women get tubes tied. Why does everyone keep preaching choice to kill but don’t prevent it in the first place? Take responsibility for your actions

[@hollyhayes9640]

@@lillylee2410 And victims of sexual assault who are still in high school? (Example: Billie Dawn Webb, who was 17). Incidentally, it also costs money to see a doctor/get prescribed contraceptives in the United States.

[@kimsmith1750]

The entire globe….the USA included… is already facing an impending food shortage as it is. Before you know it, the USA will be a 3rd world country due to the never before seen poverty levels.

[@jd3jefferson556]

I'd rather live in a 3rd world country where killing babies is illegal, than live in a country that slaughters there own babies. Thankfully we live in the richest country on earth

[@hillbillybeerdranker6678]

Why aren't we doing something with all those aborted babies? We cood be using that as a source of protein to keep from starving and being a 3rd world country. Animals sometimes eat their young, and it's a highly nutritional form of protein for the mother. The abortion doctor needs to start butchering and wrapping the baby for the mother to take home for dinner.

[@jennyleblanc2941]

it will become a third world country if you keep killing of your future

[@berenisemendez5223]

Yeah that’s what scares me. Women in general are going to suffer even more in the next few years.

[@borisisanutjob4482]

No such thing lol 🤣

[@annsparks6809]

I know where these pregnancy centers can get more money! The federal funding that goes to planned parenthood should instead go to truly support women. “Dashire’s position, broke and in need of help” and the mother of a beautiful baby boy! Why not advocate for fixing the system and helping women instead of advocating for killing that beautiful baby!

[@bulletanarchy6447]

$500 then

[@bulletanarchy6447]

And you can pay the maternity bill

[@annsparks6809]

@@bulletanarchy6447 Does financial status determine the value of a human life? Do poor people not deserve to live? If I'm destitute and someone offers me 50K to murder another human being is that my "right" to do so for my financial situation? Clearly not. Then why is it then ok to murder my unborn child for any potential financial success that I might have in the future or to save the cost of having the baby? It's free to give a baby up for adoption and there are assistance / programs for any medical bills. And I donate what I can when I can. I hope you do too. We all should. It should be society and not the government who provides assistance to our community... If you don't agree with that you should change your username...

[@mxferro]

Having a baby... isn't to create a new "friend" or fill a void you already have in your life ladies. Once out of the womb it's a responsibility and commitment. Your mental/physical/financial state is critical. To have some guilt shaming by oppressive religious nuts that think America should be a real version of "the handmaid's tale" serves only their interests not yours. Those keeping you from deciding your life and limiting you to pregnancy only, are using it as twisted social and political control.

[@alexcajiao7489]

All lies! Killing your child is not the answer. And if you do get an abortion then you have to live with the guilt and regret of killing your child!? For life!

[@sippyface4888]

You are not the majority

[@loveinthematrix]

Please never use the word ‘ladies’ when trying to speak to a group of women. Also this comments makes no sense. How does your first statement relate to the last? Are you supporting women’s right to choose or are you just talking like you have no grammatical education?

[@1rstTry]

@@loveinthematrix 😂

[@garyish]

@@sippyface4888 Neither are the evangelical bimbos featured in this video. The problem with Bible thumpers is that they assume they are the nationwide majority

[@midnightscreamer2481]

Pregnancies can cause irreversible damage to a woman's body and she can even die after giving birth. The US has the highest maternity deaths in the developed world and the hospitals bills are extremely expensive, cost of baby care with inflation in this country is rediculous and conteceptives are not a guarantee. If a woman wants to get her tubes tied or the removal of her reproductive organs she will often be denied by doctors meanwhile a man can easily get a reversible vasectomy but will refuse. Women should not be forced to carry and unwanted child to term and be stuck taking care of it for 18 yrs. Stop victim blaming. If you're religious you chose to follow that ideology and the rules that came with it, you have no right to impose your way of life on everyone else! Babies have no awareness, pain, conciousness or a will to live until 20 weeks. The religious are spreading mis information on purpose for thier agenda

[@DYLAN102001]

Women can keep their legs close and prevent the pregnancy in the first place. Also vasectomy are not reversible that's why men don't chose them.

[@562mjohnson]

Oh geez hush up please.

[@hgrtghy3594]

Why care about your body and not care about baby's life...

[@Mr.Anonymous1987GS]

Then don't get pregnant if you don't want children

[@freddyboy5412]

@@Mr.Anonymous1987GS What age can a girl get pregnant at?

[@mira8057]

“What's unclear is who is going to pay for this”, that part right there 🙃🤔

[@heatherfeather1293]

Something they don't discuss is women who choose to have their child and want to give it up for adoption, but their families won't let them. You are then forced to care for a child you do not want, or face being ostracized by family and friends. I wanted to do adoption. When I finally did, I lost family and friends who, 26 years later, still won't speak to me. A lot of women don't want to go through that.

[@bajorekjon]

Yeah, but if your family would disown you for giving a child up for adoption, then there's a 100 percent chance they would disown you for getting an abortion. I don't see your point

[@GC-pq6vm]

@@bajorekjonthe abortion would have been private

[@murtadhaalkenani3876]

As a non American I'm going to drop this quote here :- "God created America to test my faith everyday" -a pope that I won't say his name

[@iangoodisDMX]

Stay away lol

[@secularsekai8910]

@@iangoodisDMX No. Because America deserves better than the BS your social conservatives shove down people’s throats.

[@RealMTBAddict]

God doesn't exist. Now go ban women from driving.

[@ThePoehladian]

God is not A being, God IS being. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGTcepyporZ8r9E

[@lgbtsrgro0mrs36]

I’m glad child sacrifice is no longer a constitutional right.

[@matthn64]

This documentary was thought out really well… I really appreciate the main reporter and the team who produced it because it’s content like this that really opens peoples eyes and pushes change.

[@edres7563]

Its very interesting how the pro abortion side never fails to engage in sloppy journalism and continuously misrepresent the pro life side as if being against abortion is solely a religious matter. It is not. and to resent it as such, is negligent journalism at best, and at worst, it is a despicable propagation of propganda on behalf of the abortion industry, that harms and kills 50 to 70 million human babies worldwide evry year. Why are pro abortion biased documentary makers such as Vice, so afraid of covering the countless atheists and feminists who are anti abortion and ground their position in the morality of universal human rights, that ALL human beings are entitled to, including the unborn human child? Could it be that this would blow the lid on the pro abortion side's constant propensity for misinformation and obfuscation of actual scinetific facts about human development and the fact that abortion is the intentional killing of human children for arbitrary reasons and therefore is the continued violation of the most basic of all human rights in unimaginable and epic proportions?? Hmmm...

[@robertlawler1387]

Thought about more than the baby

[@POH341]

Well abortion existed for what? 80 years in the US? I mean the overturn is more progressive than most the stuff sleepy joe has done, how do make traditional conservatives more progressive than the progressive party?

[@anarchorepublican5954]

...taking down Roe ...."was pushing change"

[@Liamv4696]

I don't think I've ever felt more fortunate to NOT be an American.. It's like watching a trainwreck in slow motion (Or actually just real-time at the moment)

[@einienj3281]

Yup.. they really have forgotten the meaning of "the land of the free"... Christo fascists are taking over.. more like fake christians rallying religious nuts to force their science denial onto others..

[@lobsterpots]

Our increased birth rate will strengthen our nation long term

[@einienj3281]

@@lobsterpots Handmaid's tale.. women are not cattle!

[@Liamv4696]

@@lobsterpots That has to be a joke.. Surely..

[@Mr.Anonymous1987GS]

especially with Biden in charge, it's real bad.

[@glennc688]

I'm pro abortion but the Roe v Wade overturn was the correct decision as this was a federal law and so must have constitutional relevancy which is does not (as it hinged on private convo with a doctor... really??) It's up to the states and any pro abortion supporters should be lobbying to their respective state govt. Stop blaming trump and cop for this Roe vs Wade should of never passed in the 1st place

[@decaprio7421]

28:55 No, the federal and state government needs to pay for that, if they don't want to, sue. The average amount to take care of a child to adult age is $201,000(not updated), this is not including child care services. So you can add that amount.

[@nbaclashofclanspro9198]

If you’re not ready to have a kid then don’t have sex. Taxpayers dollars still have to pay for you wanting to kill your own child so the way I see it is either own up and be a responsible human, or abstain. Worst case scenario should be an adoption not an abortion.

[@Censortubes]

A rubber is a buck.. Use it and stop blaming everyone else for your weak pull out game..

[@sendthis9480]

No hubba hubba without a rubba.

[@sharkie3491]

if it’s up to the state wether you can obtain basic health care, if this state can force you to carry a pregnancy to term- the state better be expanding benefits, extending time availability for SNAP, WIC, etc. families who are forced should get monthly stipends. & before people come in with stupid a** remarks that “the government doesn’t owe you anything. just don’t have sex blah blah” - these states ARE WILFULLY CHOOSING to FORCE WOMEN to carry a pregnancy to full term, some with NO exceptions. when they know damn well that mother cannot take care of the baby due to money, housing insecurity, lack of housing/employment, or they are medically at risk/raped.

[@jeffamckee]

They already do through foster care dummy.

[@Angie-lp2hk]

people should watch "We need to talk about Kevin". It's not actually related to abortion per se but it does bring up an important point on the damaging effects of having an unwanted child. So even if say, a woman have the support and means of raising a baby, that does not take away the fact that they're still not mentally ready for it. What we get as a result is a poor/toxic relationship between mother and child. It's a pretty tragic movie but i recommend it

[@arii8495]

Omg I read that ! Its an amazing book and I love how the author shows the contrast between a loved child who was actually wanted ( his sister) and him who wasn’t wanted from the beginning

[@kkdias9924]

maybe women need to make a better choice then and avoid sex if they cannot support another human being or just give it up for adoption.

[@Komorebiki]

@@kkdias9924 1) Sometimes women are forced. 2) You make me so incredibly angry, but I will try to keep it calm. It's not as simple as just giving it up for adoption. Do you KNOW how many kids are in the system right now that will never ever get adopted? Or even fostered? According to the most recent federal data, there are currently more than 400,000 children in the foster care system in the United States. Every year, 20,000 kids just age out of the system without being adopted. Then what?

[@leilanidru7506]

@kk Dias a consent to sex is not a consent to pregnancy. And people don’t only have sex to procreate. Contraceptives and sex education are often under attack by the same people who want to ban abortions. And even when they’re easily accessible, they aren’t full proof and can easily fail even with zero human error. Since there’s always a risk to pregnancy from sex of course even with the most durable contraceptives, so what…women only should have sex when they were ready for it to result in a life long commitment? The average # of children per family in the US is what about two children? So We’d have sex about 2 times on average in our entire lifetimes? Should women who want no children be forced into sterility or asexuality by the state? What about the thousands who are coerced into sex if not outright raped? The if you don’t want kids then “close your legs” argument is made by morons or religious theocrats who throw all real world implications out the window and want big government not only in our bed rooms, our doctors offices, our uteruses dictating not only what to do with our bodies and our health but also this completely mythical Gilead la la land where (just women somehow, men are never addressed in this mythical land) should be more responsible and only have sex if they’re willing for it to result in a child.

[@921whitneyhope86]

@@leilanidru7506 amen!

[@orange4530]

From a european's standpoint, this is ridiculous. The freedom of choosing between getting an abortion and giving birth being taken away from women in "the land of the free" is honestly moronic.

[@nbaclashofclanspro9198]

It makes sense as an American because you can’t mention choice while completely ignoring another human’s (the babies) choice and right to life.

[@freedy1696]

It's not just moronic, it's American...

[@bomb2982]

America has two right wing parties

[@fredericsouthworth2707]

which country in Europe? a lot of European countries have 12-15 week bans

[@pierre-jean-jacques3050]

@@nbaclashofclanspro9198 lmao the last 2+yrs with covid prove that to be completely false ☠️

[@ortsed7]

I thought the Republican's entire platform was to keep government out of people's lives.

[@jhunt5578]

The Republican platform is to ban all abortions except late stage abortions from mass shootings in schools.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

I’m not pro baby merking but, I’ve never seen the right practice this.

[@Fireclaws10]

That only applies to thing they don’t like

[@Don-md6wn]

That was always a lie.

[@jd3jefferson556]

The American governments job is to ensure liberty and justice for all.... making it illegal to kill babies is definitely protecting the liberty and justice for our babies

[@melaniemarceaux9580]

I can promise you if men had the babies, this would never happen..

[@mnkwazi]

@Melanie Marceaux I used to think that but many women are pro-life fanatics.

[@teole6364]

I would choose not to have sex till marriage

[@melaniemarceaux9580]

@@teole6364 🤣 ok well that's good for you

[@DigiSolz]

@@melaniemarceaux9580 we wouldn't be men if we could have babies lol?

[@uncleken7955]

​@@teole6364 good Job man, but good news God is coming EXTREMELY soon, so marriage would be useless at this point. just stay sunfle and close to God, it'll be rewarding in the end.

[@petuniapop7819]

41:50 “How about you just listen to me?” Basically sums up the entire 45 minutes.

[@SimpleplansbyD]

What about the millions of unborn unwanted children who can't speak for themselves. Who is listening to their cries while they are being forcibly removed from the womb?

[@Chu3505]

All any abortion is always a woman her family choices.Religions and the government should never getting involved.

[@robertwing7974]

This is great reporting. Thank you so much for highlighting these women's experiences. It's important perspective to internalize.

[@ossoduro7794]

lol, That's a nice jacket you're wearing. Does it come in men's sizes?

[@yveje9720]

Really was because for being pro choice they really made pro lifers look good

[@sarahhardwick8773]

“there are families waiting to adopt” major eye roll 🙄 foster care is intense they can get their kids there. there are people on a wait list for a very specific baby. guess what that is? blonde hair, blue eyes, fresh to the world. because why would they care about the darker skin toned kids that have been in the system for 6 years? the “people are wanting to adopt” idea is atrocious. there are PLENTY of kids looking for homes.

[@jeancarlosdiaz3994]

So the solution is dead babies?

[@Femmeaesthetic]

my dear, I don't think you know that white parents have and can adapt poc children, any parent from any race can adopt any child they want

[@theeperson3764]

@@Femmeaesthetic some do but there are still many that'll favour children with lighter complexions

[@michaelryan3960]

Stop lying.

[@MalonsMilk]

I worked at a summer camp and the majority of the kids there were adopted and fostered. It was really sad as nearly all of them were drug babies that had made it so that they had mild to moderate mental health problems nd processing problems. You already know what their life is going to turn out like despite having lovely parents. There will be many more children that will be like this and there won’t be enough people to take care of them. Well done America.

[@TheJLH]

“We found that women are over 3x more likely to be below the poverty level if they are denied an abortion, compared to receive it. One of the most important things to note [about the study] is that being denied an abortion affects so many aspects of peoples lives; the chance that they’re in a better relationship, the chance that they found a better job, they have more stable housing, and all of those together mean that people who are denied an abortion are less likely to have the circumstances later to have a *wanted* child. Those who receive abortions are more likely to go on and have a *wanted* child later. Under better circumstances.” That… is a big punch to the gut. THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN UNBORN, UNWANTED FETUSES. Jfc, anyone who thinks different I can’t take seriously. Either you’re cruel or you’re lying to yourself because you’re addicted to your own self-righteousness. Shameful. Disgusting.

[@samuelsouza3054]

In the end of the day you can deny that as much as you want but you are defending killing babies, also this documentary lied when it said that 95% of women don't regret their abortion, most of them don't regret instantly but they regret later in life so idk why you're talking this video serious.

[@solveigmortensen2608]

Absolutely! and I keep making this point to black and white thinkers on both sides of the debate. Abortion does not necessarily mean less child births or population control. Of the six women I know who had abortions, all went on to have more children later and all while living in more stable conditions (with a life-partner, with higher education or at least a stable job). Only 2 only had just one child. All the rest of the remaining 4 women had 2 or more children later.

[@samuelsouza3054]

@@solveigmortensen2608 "abortion does not necessarily mdan less child birth", 62 million people were killed before they were born. Also how innocent do you need to be to believe that those womens don't regret paying someone to kill their baby, i mean if you wanna beleive their fake smiles than go ahead, but they're definitely hiding a huge pain from you.

[@bruvlol9573]

You are absolutely disgusting if you believe any of that is more valuable than a young human being’s life.

[@solveigmortensen2608]

@@samuelsouza3054 1rst) NO. I know 4 out of the 6 women very well. All but two have shared their stories with me firsthand. They have explained to me what they went through (in their decision making process to get an abortion) and said they do NOT regret it. Many of them are really joyful people, and they shared these stories with me years ago before a ban on abortion was even on the horizon. I say that to make the point, that it was not political and it was in private, one on one. There are women who regret it, but you're simply denying what others honesty tell you and others women say they do not live with agonizing pain over it. It may not fit your world view, but it is NOT the case that all women who have abortions have deep, ongoing pain over it. It's not. And, secondly Did you follow what I explained about birth rates? My point was that many of these women ended up having more kids later and probably more than if they had had to have had the kids at a younger age or in a much less stable time in their lives.

[@rhizonhaze5597]

"Women are strong. Women are capable. Women can figure it out" Such hubris. I find her to be a little detached for reality. I will give credit to her and those like her who put in the effort to overturn Roe v Wade, but I believe women should have the choice of what to do to their body. Their fate should not be decided by others. Heck, they want to ban abortion pills too. That's insane.

[@mathildeyoung1823]

"I believe women should have the choice of what to do to their body. " by your "logic" child abuse needs to be legal because that's just a woman doing something with her body (hands). By your "logic" child abandonment/endangerment needs to be legal because that's just a woman doing something with her body (e.g. taking it to the beach while leaving a newborn home alone to die). i.e. Just as child abuse and endangerment are not about someone doing something to their body, neither is abortion. What's beyond insane is calling killing an unborn child "doing something with my body". It's not - it's doing something (KILLING!) the body of ANOTHER innocent human being. I hope this helps you understand why abortion needs to be illegal.

[@rhizonhaze5597]

@Mathilde Young This isn't about your point of view, or mine for that matter. It is about a person's right to choice. Our morals have nothing to do with it. Can they afford to take care of the baby? Most women below the poverty line cannot. And what about those whose very lives are at risk? Will doctors be forced to let them die so the babay comes to term? Such bullshit. I'm not for abortion, but I am against any law that prohibits anybody from doing what they want to their body. People can legally mutilate themselves in the name of 'sex change' but women can't make decisions that fundamentally alter their lives? Miss me with that nonsense. God will Judge them for the murder you accuse them of. Not you. There must always be a separation between Church and State. Besides, abortions will keep happening in a black market, putting more women at risk. It's not worth it

[@PlaestinianNaziDeporter]

@@rhizonhaze5597yea it's about a persons right to kill a baby. Does the woman have 2 heads during pregnancy? 2 different sets of DNA? No. Open any biology text book or look at the pew research studies saying 95% of biologists agree that life begins at conception. This is not about "making a medical decision" this is not about "a persons right to choose" this is about a completely new human being that is murdered in every abortion.

[@wylierichardson-tu6zs]

@@mathildeyoung1823 if abortion 'needs' to be illegal, why isn't it? Abortion does qualify as a form of bodily autonomy, as pregnancy directly affects the woman involved. Case in point: when a woman goes to a clinic to get the procedure done, who is actually listed as 'the patient'?

[@mathildeyoung1823]

@@wylierichardson-tu6zs why was slavery legal for years... when it was legal, people said it needed to be illegal because it was a human rights violation. Abortion is a human rights violation. A real doctor would treat a woman AND her unborn children as patients and do what is best to protect ALL of them.

[@flej01]

There's always two sides to every story. The children abused should be a bigger issue. Most of the people on skid row and in prisons are effected from abusive parents. I dont see all these people against abortion opening up their homes to unwanted children. I believe in my body my choice, I was against mandates as well. I have 4 kids who are now adults but I would stand beside any sister who made their decision. I dont believe in late term unless for a medical reason. I also know parents that should not be parents ever.

[@jeepliberty1388]

Yep, same as I don't see the people that support opening our borders opening up their homes for illegal immigrants

[@yakub3962]

How many kids have you adopted?

[@HiAdrian]

@@yakub3962 Why ask her? She's not making the situation worse by forcing birth.

[@yakub3962]

@@HiAdrian no one's forcing birth.

[@tritonia_]

@@yakub3962 Anti-Abortionists are

[@hymasusee8984]

It is gut wrenching ,horrifying and deeply saddening to see people deriving bouts of joy from the woes, suffering and sorrow of hundreds of millions of women. Even ignoring the basic human rights and decency that has been denied to half of the USA's population ,What about women suffering from preeclampsia, or any other illness drastically reducing the quality of life for both the foetus and the woman? Do the anti abortionists have any answer to the wailing of the suffering women other than to "get over it" or "if the lord can lead you to it ,he can lead you through it"?

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

that swhat REligious People do, they make others suffer

[@lobsterpots]

We rationalize that we are saving hundreds of millions of children. Unfortunately it is difficult to find common ground on this subject

[@hymasusee8984]

@@MVGAactual congratulations! Hope you experience the same joy as you see thousands of mothers die at childbirth and see their tears as they leave their newborn baby into the callous and uncertain hands of the abysmally tragic foster home system of the USA

[@Straystar1235]

@@MVGAactual People like you are in the extreme minority. You know what happens when your types impose your will on others?

[@Calamity8]

I want the murder of children to stop because its morally wrong.

[@sunnylilme]

If you don't like abortion, great! Don't have one. Let the rest of us have to capacity to make our own choices. Forced birth will not end well.

[@kml2546]

You don't agree with child abuse, great! Don't abuse your children. Allow other to decide for themselves how to treat their kids.

[@hellobot67]

@@kml2546 you know that makes no sense

[@kml2546]

@@hellobot67 it makes perfect sense. just because something may not directly effect you does not mean it hould be ignored. Laws should protect innocent human life. Choices on what you can do with your body end when it effects another body.

[@mooncake4371]

Please continue covering these important topics Vice! I especially love this reporter. You guys are getting in there and aren’t afraid to ask the questions. Thank you!

[@hui975]

I agree it was well made by calling it anti-abortion makes the movement look hateful.

[@Melissa-ci2rf]

I'm interested to know how these organizations are helping these women though out their parenthood. Most have abortions because they can't even take care of themselves, they can't afford or barely afford housing, they've been though severe trauma in childhood and can't give what they never had. .. Do these organizations send funds for these women to raise their children though out their childhoods, make sure their housed their entire lives and raise school funds for college for these forced births?

[@singingrocks21]

Up to a year after labor it seems

[@themanwithnonamecalledwyat7575]

Or you guys could just not have kids? Or give it up for adoption? There two perfectly good answers for your terrible argument for a baby to deprived of life.

[@yazkat1011]

@@themanwithnonamecalledwyat7575 or everyone could mind their own business how about that?

[@BEABEREAN10]

And not to mention...if you can't afford or support a child, then take that into consideration before you lie down for a mere moment of enjoyment.

[@Seen_not_heard]

I'm pretty sure the support ends by the time the child is 2. At least that's what I gathered from the video.

[@paintthesilence9891]

No matter what your believes are, making abortion illegal, won't decrease the numbers of abortions, but increase the number of illegal abortions. Those illegal abortions will only mean less security and will criminalise women in need and doctors who want to help.

[@secularsekai8910]

Correct. Several networks have already been formed that are providing them as we speak.

[@antoniorosario2985]

Just like making drugs illegal does not take away the demand, only produces a thriving black market for said demand.

[@lobsterpots]

On the margins this is true but it will save many children as a net gain

[@paintthesilence9891]

Save? You mean the children that will end up in an orphanage or in a family with no financial security? That's not saving.

[@jisoo1571]

But they don’t care because it’s not about saving lives, it’s about punishing women. The number one killer for pregnant women is murder. Even if they choose not to have an unsafe abortion they’re at a risk anyway.

[@usernextuser5385]

It makes me feel very negative about women as a gender when they feel it is their right to kill their baby, legally. And it is a baby. I have had two daughters with my wife and I knew there was another human in her belly when she was pregnant, just like numerous men I know have said about their wife's pregnancy.

[@Len-jk4zi]

It makes me feel very negatively about you as a person if you're more concerned about women "killing babies" than having their freedoms stripped away from them simply because they were born female.

[@usernextuser5385]

@@Len-jk4zi I don't think you fully thought out what you just said. What about the females who are aborted. Without life all other rights are meaningless.

[@Len-jk4zi]

@@usernextuser5385 There is an infinite number of people that don't exist, I'm not going to be concerned about them and instead focus on those that do. We are alive whether we like it or not, and as long as we are alive, we can suffer violations worse than death. Preventing those violations is meaningful, and the right to life does not entitle you to commit such violations for your own benefit.

[@usernextuser5385]

@@Len-jk4zi Unborn babies are alive. Why are you not concerned for them. Killing someone is the worst violation anyone can commit. That is why it gets the heaviest punishment.

[@Len-jk4zi]

@@usernextuser5385 The term "unborn baby" is absurd as is. I'm not concerned for fetuses because I once was one and I didn't care whether I was born or not. There's a stark difference between killing someone and deciding not to birth them in the first place.

[@likquidsteel]

If the government is going to force women to keep the baby then the government should assume the responsibilities of raising that baby.

[@KYLE1654-v7m]

Preach it! 🙌🏽

[@keydarichardson4599]

I have 2 sons and I chose to get my tubs tied. After my last son was born, I was diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure. My Cardiologist told me that I would die if I got pregnant again. I thought I had nothing to worry about until I did. Somehow my procedure wasn't 100% and I was pregnant. Abortion saved my life. My heart is only strong enough to take care of me.

[@liquorcofficial5561]

I'm pro life but that was sad reading not going to lie

[@billyb4790]

I'm glad you're ok. But I hope you understand this case is an outlier and represents less than 1% of abortion cases.

[@BraxEvans]

@@billyb4790 so outliers lives will just not matter enough to be concerned with? collateral damage

[@szatanowska]

Disgusting choice.. True mom always choose life of her baby over herself

[@keydarichardson4599]

@@szatanowska and who would care for the three motherless children?

[@sharktv3000]

The bigger issue seems to be no one acknowledging how difficult pregnancy can be unto itself or the dangers women face without appropriate oBGYN care. I don’t think anyone is out here pro-abortion. Who wants to even be in that situation?

[@joeking433]

Well, there is an easy way to avoid pregnancy, you know! It's keeping her legs closed. Simple!

[@emmab7658]

This is such a valid comment. Having an abortion is not something that I would ever WANT to do. However, I am very grateful to live in a country where I could make that choice if needed.

[@dove.9833]

🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@usernextuser5385]

Did you never listen to pro-abortion people.

[@pikapi6993]

there are many crazy pro abortionists and they are an underrated influence on public opinion. They were the reason that I started to question abortion rights.

[@slamee100]

People are brainwashed to believe that killing a baby is not murder. Think about the words in that statement. If we all put God first in our life, we would clearly see the truth and all act righteously and handle all issues righteously. The most important thing for all of us and our loved ones to do before we leave this messed up world, is and always has been, to be spiritually prepared for our ETERNAL life by admitting and repenting of our sins and believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the Bible and being spiritually born again by honestly accepting Jesus Christ, God on earth, as our Savior by believing that He was born one of us to die and resurrect from the dead to pay for our sins for us so that our sins will not condemn us at the final judgment, to reconcile us sinners with God to give us eternal life with Him. THE GOSPEL (THE GOOD NEWS) OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR Jesus Christ came down here from heaven, God on earth, to be born one of us His own creation and He dwelt among us for over three decades and He taught us about God and His eternal heavenly kingdom and how to live righteously and He lived a perfect sinless life. Then He gave His sinless life to all people from all nations to pay for our sins for us, by dying on the cross and resurrecting from the dead three days later, to pay for our sins for us to reconcile us sinners with God to give us eternal life with Him, and after He resurrected from the dead, He lived on earth for forty more days, speaking to many people, then He ascended back up into heaven and He is coming back again at the end of this world to set up His eternal heavenly kingdom and all people will see Him and have our sins judged by Him.

[@bpiya8743]

For people so obsessed with "stopping the murder" of fetuses, I hope they know that this will be killing a lot of mothers AND babies in situations where the pregnancy is ectopic.

[@taylea11]

omfg ectopic is allowed lol wtf are you talking about

[@bpiya8743]

@@taylea11 that is a damn lie!

[@taylea11]

Also abortion and ectopic isn’t the same thing. Do some damn research

[@bpiya8743]

@@taylea11 yes. Now doctors, clinics and hospitals have to consult legal professionals as to whether or not they can be sued for preventing an ectopic pregnancy from taking the lives of both people by performing a lifesaving abortion. You're either ignorant or trying to mislead people. Shame on you.

[@wordforever117]

You are right that ectopic pregnancy is very dangerous for both the mother and the baby if left untreated. Both will almost certainly die in that situation. It is horrible. Thankfully, there are other treatments for ectopic pregnancy that mean abortion is not required. One is a salpingostomy - which is an ethical treatment in the sense that even though the baby dies, he was not directly and intentionally killed by a doctor. It is a very though situation to be in, but these are ways to get through a bad situation without violence towards anyone :)

[@BrianGivensYtube]

I dislike that the motivations for anti-abortion are religiously based. America is supposed to be free in all aspects including religion. Forcing other people to abide by your beliefs is wrong. When half the population lose rights they previously had, freedom and liberty have been violated. Abortion may not have been a fundamental part of the American culture, but freedom, privacy, and liberty are.

[@amsx1902]

If it’s all religious based then why would an atheist be pro life like myself? Biologists prove it’s a human being, it has nothing to do with religion.

[@BrianGivensYtube]

@@amsx1902 The motivation for *lawmakers* is religiously based. I'm not advocating for abortion at any time mind you, but it should be available as a procedure to women who morally and medically fit the bill. Putting it in the hands of the states is divisive because republican heavy states will do everything they can to outright ban it. Thus we will live in a country physically divided by out beliefs through the manifestation of policies that control our freedoms. What happened to The UNITED States?

[@ghostface8671]

@@BrianGivensYtube "it should be available to women who morally and medically fit the bill" ... Abortion is not always "medically" required and so what you're saying is you wish to force a *personal* belief into abortion. "Morals" are wholly subjective, for example I believe absolutely no type of abortion is 'immoral', and so you wishing to apply a question of morality to control abortion is also you wanting to force your *personal* beliefs. You can comprehend that right? You and your *personal beliefs* have no place in this. At all. What happened to United States? People like you, sweetheart, that feel the need to stick their noses in other people's business.

[@josephtracey4411]

The reason the supreme court threw out Roe vrs Wade is because there was never any protection for abortion in the constitution, at all. It had nothing to do with religion. Everyone since 1973 knew the Roe vrs Wade decision was a bad decision that set bad precedence in the law, in that the supreme court of the time made up an imaginary connection in the constitution to abortion, that doesn't exist. The danger was, if it was never corrected, a future court could also make up laws by making imaginary connections between the issue and the constitution. I believe the 1973 court used the 14th amendment, go ahead and see if you can find anything about abortion: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

[@carlosgarciasanchez]

@@BrianGivensYtube Morals should have no say in medical procedure. Patients have autonomy.

[@Wayzor_]

Forcing of a Religion on to a population has never ended well.

[@vasectomyfail442]

you mean the middle east? iraq? or the republic of congo? those types of places

[@jd3jefferson556]

It's not a religious belief that babies shouldn't be killed.

[@iamnemoo]

@@vasectomyfail442 i think he means rural america's vanilla isis or y'all queda

[@vrstate]

@@jd3jefferson556 that's religion, in the medic area the woman's life has priority over the baby

[@jeffamckee]

Just a heads up. If you're going to call the pro-life movement a "religion", I guess that you need to remove all laws on the books that condemn murder, lying and stealing because the Bible condemns them too. The fact of the matter is, you shouldn't have to be "religious" to see that chopping up innocent babies and sucking them out with a wet vac is immoral and wrong.

[@Wulfric_the_red]

I'm sorry but you can't kill babies anymore 😁

[@msekonefraser]

Is there any way we can help the mother that was featured in this? I know she is only one of thousands of women that need help and support but if there is a gofundme or the like, I would very much like to donate. You can see the love she has for her son and how intelligent and kind hearted she is. It really looks like she just needs a leg up.

[@yveje9720]

I agree! Vice should have started a fund for her this video has so many viewers who I'm sure would love to help. Hopefully they gave her some assistance directly.

[@pacather]

Me, too. I found myself thinking a lot about this woman after I watched the video and felt terribly sad for her. Hope she's okay.

[@msekonefraser]

@@yveje9720 I reached out on social media and haven't heard back. I tried searching for her on social to reach out and couldn't find her, but might be spelling her name incorrectly. If I find anything I will post it here.

[@yveje9720]

@@msekonefraser reached out to Vice? Hmm I wonder it there is an email to contact them

[@cloudsofjoi]

@@yveje9720 most of these videos just exploit

[@kenzielacosta8244]

Its a cult. These people are simple.minded and absolutely mislead.

[@jd3jefferson556]

The pro-aborts, ya I agree those baby murdering monsters are totally brainwashed or completely evil.

[@uncleken7955]

your right planned parenthood is a cult.

[@gemma-do9yr]

I wish I could be apart of this vice series and tell my story of how I was lied to at a young age by my so he said he had a condom on and didn't. I got pregnant by him which he wanted and I chose to have An abortion.

[@Wildcat82164]

Did u report that's highly illegal

[@solvorine]

For a country that boasts about its freedom, this in’s directly conflicting it.

[@kevinfernandez9999]

Freedom to kill isn't a Freedom

[@logangreer3629]

So many arguments against abortion rely on the mother to have stable mental health and the education to make the right decisions to provide a good life for herself and the baby thus not to continue a cycle of poverty and abuse. It's a shame that you can tell (in most cases) what upbringings were like for pro-lifers given their lack of consideration for the actual quality of life of the majority of would-be mothers who get abortions

[@seanmcleod7417]

So many arguments for abortion rely on the moral delusion that it is better to kill someone than give them a chance to make a better life for themselves. If you can morally justify abortion, why couldn't you morally justify the forced sterilization of the poor and mentally unstable? Seems like that would be more humane than abortion...

[@watermelondreasymone7144]

Tbh I think they’re just grifters

[@Greyalien587]

It’s a shame you come up with justifications to kill a baby. All the reasons you mentioned are things that are able to change. You don’t to be an engineer to raise a child.

[@seanmcleod7417]

@@Greyalien587 Agreed, that's my point. If you get delusional enough, you can justify just about anything to yourself.

[@beensetfreebyjc]

Well the fact that theres millions of women who want to kill there own babies definitely shows theres a lot of sick women out there.

[@82hnlam]

There’s only 24 hrs in a day. Asking a single mom to split that out for childcare, work, cooking, cleaning, sleeping and miscellaneous tasks are unrealistic, especially for those working near minimum wage, even so when they’re homeless before the pregnancy.

[@LuisRodriguez-zi1tf]

maybe some of these women should choose better men. i see so many single mothers who have kids with bums.

[@dannygetsyoufit7475]

The states that deny people to have abortions, need to provide single moms the basic means to raise their infants whether it's housing, food, clothes etc.

[@rachel2027]

The states with trigger laws have some of the worst maternal and infant mortality rates in the US and don’t allocate extra money to social safety nets. If they really cared about “saving babies” they’d be doing everything in their power to improve maternal and infant mortality rates; banning abortion will just make maternal and infant mortality worse.

[@kennethramsby6077]

Nope. My mom was the one you are talking about with 4 kids and no job. She clawed through and raised us with little gov help in the 50’s. That is better than death from abortion for sure even though we had little.

[@berenisemendez5223]

Jen they’re wondering why all these unstabled mothers are murdering their kids, every year the number keep increasing. It’s it’s sad.

[@rachel2027]

@@berenisemendez5223 what? Abortion rates have been decreasing; the number of abortions fell by 196,000-a 19% decline, from 1,058,000 abortions in 2011 to 862,000 abortions in 2017. As a matter of fact, national abortion figures in 2017 reached their lowest level since the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision that legalized abortions.

[@rachel2027]

@@kennethramsby6077 anecdotal evidence is pretty meaningless in this context. If pro-life individuals care about life, why aren’t they working to improve maternal and infant mortality? The rates are abysmal in most of the states with trigger laws, especially for women of color.

[@pkl8811]

No greater evil than abortion.

[@LikeTotallyDonut]

There is, making a kid with no one that loves them live a life of absolute despair. Doesn’t seem like a life worth living to me.

[@mathildeyoung1823]

​@@LikeTotallyDonut so you're saying if a newborn baby was wanted and then the parents changed their mind that they should be able to kill their kid so the child doesn't possibly live in despair?

[@Len-jk4zi]

@@mathildeyoung1823 No, they're not saying it. Whether or not it would actually be better is debatable, but living in despair creates more pain than dying in peace. Nicholas Cruz.

[@jadecraig1082]

The reporter did such a great job with trying to neutralize her judgment as she talked to each of the interviewees, including people with whom she disagreed. All of the open-ended questions really allowed even the most conservative people who might have clammed up to really express their position. Even if we disagreed with it - whether it's the woman who worked with Phyllis Schlafly or the 18 year old wanting an abortion at the end - we needed to hear the person explain in their own words. This is one reason I love watching Vice documentaries! They're so good at striving toward balance (even though that's difficult to fully achieve for any news program).

[@jadecraig1082]

Oprah says her secret to great interviews is to try to approach them without judgment because "people can feel your judgment."

[@andrear7181]

She tries to be nice and cute, but the message terrifies me. Because she make a lot of times the point of money, homeless women, the cost of living....I draw to the conclution that abortion is been used as a form of birth control, and not "rare". Disgusting.

[@jadecraig1082]

@@andrear7181 It sounds like it has been to some extent. But many women in that situation also don’t have access to health insurance, doctors, or ways to get consistent birth control. You can’t buy an IUD at CVS.

[@andrear7181]

@@jadecraig1082 you are shifting my point. My point is the pro choice movement is not telling the truth when they claim they want abortions to be rare. And none of the women in this video are having a abortion because of extreme causes.

[@LuisRodriguez-zi1tf]

@@andrear7181 That' how they are. They have to lie and since so many people don't take the time to think it through they believe it right away. This reporter is terrible and throughout the video you can see her bias and propaganda coming through.

[@paul9299]

I'm of the mindset that anyone and everyone that votes pro-life should be forced onto a registry similar to selective service or the draft , so all the unwanted children that are brought into the world and will end up in the foster care system are placed into their care- because these very same people are so interested in someone else's life choices they can actively take care of the unwanted children born of elimination of abortions. I can imagine how quickly legislation would be overturned if these religious zealots were forced to take care of these kids. I'm a moderate but the fact of the matter is this, the left is really good at making a lot of noise but the right wing is really good at getting things done quickly and quietly. The left needs to grow a pair and get organized behind the scenes, as much as a rally or protest is good for a quick sound bite, the left fails constantly at actually changing things. Grow a pair and get it together

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

You want a registry for pro lifers but not these garden tools that keep getting yanked over and over? Your priorities are garbage.

[@BrentJCole]

There are forty two pairs of parents waiting to adopt for every child available. You should know your data before trying to make silly rhetoric.

[@MrMrmoore2013]

@@StormyAlexandraPerez 42 Paris of parents per child isn’t enough??

[@BrentJCole]

@@StormyAlexandraPerez what part of 42:1 do you not understand? What part of wrap it up or take a pill do you not get? There's no issue and no reasoning for your concern. Learn the stats.

[@paul9299]

You're missing the point there Brent, if you've ever seen people at pro-life rallies these are the exact same people that don't want to adopt they just want to push their beliefs on other people.

[@daniellegagnon610]

Her poor baby... 12 weeks along. Fear should not dictate the value of another humans life!

[@Bb-yn6zc]

That’s not a baby, it’s her body. Remove it then simple let it live alone

[@lauradahlus]

Adoption! Adoption! Adoption!

[@MrsAi84]

They care so much about unborn kids/fetus but yet don’t give a 💩 once that kid is born!! Are they going to take and raise these kids that are born? They don’t help at allllll once these kids are born. Disgusting. They’re not protecting anyone. Who’s going to raise these kids ?

[@ponpokobushi7389]

Simple, dont do sex outside marriage.

[@DigiSolz]

Where did you get this from? Your saying we are disgusting because we don't want to rip apart a baby? Smh lol

[@tophower33]

If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked. George Carlin

[@thesnailshow8004]

Give men financial abortion rights

[@the2ndcoming135]

The husbands🙋🏽‍♂️

[@localfan8174]

This makes me physically ill. I can’t believe it’s happening. Horrifying.

[@irishscience580]

abort73.com/abortion/abortion_pictures/ click on this link and fully understand what your defending

[@bltzcstrnx]

Your country is incredible that they even have this topics as a massive debate. I've been following this topic and it quite astonishing to me. Totally different way of thinking from where I born, raised & live.

[@gabrielblacklock3921]

Yeah, it's horrifying that babies are ripped apart in the womb when they have beating hearts, functional brains, and the ability to feel pain.

[@gabrielblacklock3921]

@@bltzcstrnx The reason we have these debates when other countries - from Europe, for example- largely don’t is that the US has historically had some of the most absurdly permissive abortion laws in the world. It’s not enough to allow abortion in the very early term. Politicians here insist on keeping it legal past 21 weeks (and even further in some states). It’s absurd, even by European standards. Everyone knows that a fetus at that stage is a living human being, but they just don’t give a crap. If the left would moderate its position a bit, there probably wouldn’t be that much debate. It would take all the wind out of the sales of pro-lifers. But as long as the US keeps allowing 10,000+ 21-week-old babies to be killed in the womb every year, the pro-life movement is going to stand strong.

[@gogudelagaze1585]

@@gabrielblacklock3921 bruh, you have zero clue how an abortion is performed. You also have zero clue what happens when abortions are banned (plenty of countries have done this - feel free to read up on the desperate women improvising ways to perform abortions, which often ends up killing them). So much pain and suffering, because you zealots can't understand anything more complex than what your preacher tells you.

[@beepopp7306]

Fine, women should have to have babies. Fine. But then the funding of welfare programs should be increased by the billions. Pro life goes past birth. End of story.

[@Andrew-ob5ij]

I have been asking anti-choice people things like this constantly. I am sure you can guess the answer 😂

[@tashvadj4914]

If the baby was planned and supported within a proven long term relationship, then I agree. Women having babies to get paid? Hard no.

[@Don-md6wn]

@@tashvadj4914 So you want to have a couple go in front of a Christian court to decide whether or not they're entitled to social benefits for their child.

[@tashvadj4914]

@@Don-md6wn Nothing worse about Christianity than any other religion, and nothing wrong with expecting people to take responsibility for their actions. Especially such serious ones. Plenty on contraceptive options available, murder isn't one of them.

[@secularsekai8910]

@@tashvadj4914 Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not a baby until ~24 weeks. And I already know people circumventing these laws in deep red states. It’s all for nothing.

[@rayromano1446]

"There would be a piece of me out in this world that's just... somewhere, and that was devastating for me" So I'll just throw it in the trash. So 😔

[@Mia-ki7vi]

I wonder just how many of those unwanted pregnancies will be sold on the black web to local pedophiles, being raped and sold on repeat 🤬🤬 or raised in a household of abuse and neglect. Its sadistic to force a defenceless baby into that.