Inside the Taliban's Takeover of Afghanistan

[@VICENews]

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[@muhammedumar5244]

And the western countries giving uncountable support money weapon to the ukraine it simple actually NATO EU nd america are using ukraine against Russia nd fighting and coz of dis so many innocent people of ukraine are getting killed feel sad for the life’s but america nato eu are busy earning money from dis battle against Russia and ukraine

[@worldview730]

200,000, dead or wounded! Wow I Didn't know that. Putin is drowning in the blood of his victims for sure

[@iac92]

#SupportTaliban

[@johnnyharris]

Always appreciate the reporters who are deep on the front lines to report these stories

[@leonardogamboa1901]

I'm waiting for your opinion about this situation. Take care!

[@axlbrito9914]

Bruh get yo headass out

[@onlythewise1]

ya some are in great danger

[@Sevisstillalive]

jane Ferguson is vip from cbc

[@adamvillanueva2060]

Hey man I appreciate yours, theirs and all the other journalists work

[@BulletProofBrain]

“There are decades where nothing happens; then there are weeks where decades happen.”- Lenin

[@matheen8574]

Fits the current situation in Afghanistan perfectly

[@pabloes588]

Talking of Lenin I’m pretty sure the talibán learnt how to suppress a nation of people from him, impose laws on them they don’t want and kill the ones who don’t fall into line

[@SPAZZYok]

@@pabloes588 Quoting mass murders is so progressive don't you know. smh

[@SPAZZYok]

@@mehanikal5639 who's people?

[@pabloes588]

@@mehanikal5639 total different situation as the talibán have advance weaponry

[@SaKa01]

They lost their country faster than my cell phone lost charge.

[@aaronlimeuchin7352]

Delta variant COVID 19: I am gonna spread quickly across this country. Taliban: Hold my slippers.

[@pr0fsnip3r86]

far from truth

[@sushitrash-dj9vq]

lost charge? Or is it battery?

[@yaqubleis6311]

Look at Taliban map form 2016 to 2020 you see the difference USA lost to them he didn’t matter if they were there or not Taliban was going take Afghanistan

[@DudeSushisbomb]

Ouch

[@Otis-Spunks]

"They wanted to fight, they were just so tired and under supplied." Sounds like they didn't want to fight and so they didn't. Instead they took the opportunity to run. Taliban lives in mountain caves and uses shotout AKs and RPGs from the 70s but still fight. ANA has modern equipment and firepower, drops it all and jumps on the first flight out.

[@randyroad7469]

I completely agree and it's crazy that other people cannot see this. All I see is young, healthy men running away who could easily take up arms and fight for their country. And the ANA. What a joke, they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Half of them can't even put a helmet on facing the right way. Maybe they are tired because all they do is smoke hashish and opium and sleep under trees all day. Under supplied my ass! They have top tier state of the art U.S combat equipment. It's absolutely a lack of will!

[@christianmiller9934]

No they definitely were tired to some degree the war had dragged on for two decades already on top of a conflict going on since 1979

[@Stand4Liberty]

In the US Army, if a private loses a pistol he will be reprimanded and possibly demoted. But when the US Army loses a trillion dollars worth of equipment to the Taliban, no one is responsible.

[@Mrbathingape]

Pretty asinine huh? 😂

[@lukasprchal8754]

they didnt lose it, they gave the equipment to the afghanistan millitary, but Taliban defeated them and got all the american weapons and stuff

[@MrZZooh]

Good point. I don't understand why the equipment wasn't bombed if they didn't have time to evacuate.

[@Jessica7318]

@@MrZZooh Right? Even in World War 2, when France surrendered to the Germans, the British opened fire on French ships so that they couldn't end up in German hands. The French ships were told to sail to a neutral port, to be scuttled or to join the British fleet in order to not let these ships join the German navy. When the French refused, the British sunk the ships. I know this isn't exactly the same thing, but the principle is much the same. When they thought the Afghan army would be able to fight off the Taliban, then taking those weapons away would feel like it opened the attack of: "You expected them to fight the Taliban but left them with no weapons?" however without a victory against the Taliban, the problem you're left with is: "You left all these weapons intact for the Taliban to take."

[@perfectsplit5515]

@@Jessica7318 So the WWII British followed a Scorched Earth Policy?

[@ChilsonTV]

"listen to this guy talk about how the Afghan army didn't give up" "so yeah the Afghan army immediately gave up..."

[@dustins4921]

""It's an over simplification, you see just the majority surrendered the few hundred left couldn't fight because it wasn't fair there weren't enough of them left."

[@jacintoyakkk5502]

I know this dude didn’t know what he was talking about

[@fabridee]

that's what i also believe, it's not like they didn't wanna fight, can you imagine an army of a few soldiers against over 2000 talibans?.. as a soldier you are not supposed to surrender but not everyone think the same....

[@ISnip3rJoeI]

@@jacintoyakkk5502 He was mad that Biden called it like he saw it.

[@MrTyrant258]

Having your President flee the country would break the morale of any trooper…

[@v4v121]

My cousin who has done 5 tours British army said years ago ' The second we turn our backs, it will turn into how it was when we arrived'

[@jahe3734]

That's how. It is to be.

[@TheChinBurton]

No offense, but it's not like he was a 60 year 5 star general with any actual experience with what was going on either. Everyday he was there it was better than the day of and days following the invasion and if the us had spent more time there vetting and training it could of been different because there was change and it was getting better.

[@garyoakham9723]

@@TheChinBurton your 5 star general is trying to teach the taliban critical race theory and waving the gay flag around Kabul. Guess what? Afghanis don’t take kind to all that crap

[@sofaking1102]

@@TheChinBurton My tour to Afghan (9 months) I was on a NATO base that had a medium sized compound attached with ANA soldiers. They were the laziest people I've ever seen in my live. We told them hey... we're going to be leaving soon sooo uhhhh maybe don't get high everyday and try to betray us? V4V is right, any vet that went to Afghan will tell you. It will be the same as when we arrived. The ANA don't care about defeating the taliban. *Edit Plenty of supplies and money were given to them throughout the years and they still didn't care. To the people saying oh the reason they all stopped fighting was because they stopped getting paid.... they weren't even fighting to begin with lmao

[@aclau7]

@@sofaking1102 You’re most likely right because you witnessed it yourself.

[@succsquire6854]

He says Afghan correctly but not Afghanistan and I STILL can't get over it

[@M3TH0DD]

Afghanistan President: “Don’t worry, I have a Plan” Afghanistan President: “I said I have a Plane”

[@Mynewhandle420]

😭🤣

[@rue.eudoxie]

Yo💀💀

[@rue.eudoxie]

On a real note tho imma pray for the Afghan people who aren’t safe❤️

[@Shogun-AI2]

Copied comment not funny anymore

[@yourmommassecretboyfriend1273]

🤣🤣😞😞

[@Sharreboy]

"Rome wasn't built in a day, but it sure burned in one"

[@jimlewis7200]

Bad guys turning good.lol

[@licious4633]

Rome never burned it still exists and it's the Vatican

[@kushking949]

i like to copy paste too

[@sko1beer]

@@licious4633 Vatican loves RMB

[@kushking949]

@Me Am come at me

[@wahajuddin2323]

"To be an enemy of America is dangerous but to be a friend of America is fatal" ~Henry Kissinger

[@dragonslayergoblineater9048]

huh? how

[@anonymousph7477]

It literally means that America is hypocrite and traitor. That's it!

[@CiaoBello21]

America doesn’t make friends unless they want something from you

[@gadeezmoutez6539]

@@CiaoBello21 and that is... Democrasy and freedom.

[@MyMatK]

Yep, Like guys from security comunity said, we dont have a friends, only a interests

[@eclipseentertainment8243]

Appreciate the effort that the reporters made on the front lines to show the world that is going on in Afghanistan

[@stephensouders4905]

They tried to make the argument against Afghanistan‘s military failing, then they spent the next 15 minutes talking about how the military just gave up. I’m confused.

[@Kevhoe]

Right? What a joke. "It's not a lack of will but only 200 soldiers out of 1,000 were willing to fight." MMMMKAY

[@ShiratoriIsOffline]

@@Kevhoe broo this confused me

[@D-A-A-]

Obviously it was a lack of will to fight, they have been working along US n UK armies for years they've been trained by them, been given way better equipment, the taliban gained contril over afghan in a week without much shooting or killing, easiest job I've seen

[@FreeManFreeThought]

And nothing about how most ANA soldiers have been without a paycheck for months. An unpaid soldier will never fight for long. The Taliban aren't in a comfortable situation now either. The Warlords who supported them will want their cut. The Afghan Treasury is basically frozen now through international sanctions. Drug revenues might buy an army, but they don't feed a nation. The Taliban are in the hotseat now, their conquest isn't as secure as it seems.

[@rdmcabee]

@@FreeManFreeThought The Taliban has never been dependent on money from the heroin trade. Yes, they tax it, but the real money for the Taliban as an army and for their religious schools comes from Saudis who want to export their vision of a theocratic nation abroad to Pakistan and Afghanistan. Billions in support.

[@marcelo1458]

Afghan President in July - "I have a plan". Afghan President in August - "I have a plane".

[@amistenson2535]

The cowardice and selfishness required to do that! He was only avoiding his and his family’s blood shed, he wasn’t doing it to save anyone else. Leaving in a private luxury plane, on allies’ and citizens’ dime!

[@georgem2334]

The plane was his plan

[@marcelo1458]

@@amistenson2535 Yes, five cars filled with cash.

[@bhargavaboddeti2488]

I guess the president discovered the letter "E" in August and changed the plan.

[@MelchizedekKohen]

he actually had a helicopter and he filled it with as much cash as it could carry

[@nickjunes]

Crazy how you have to come to youtube to find coverage longer than a minute and a half.

[@whoisjohngalt11]

Because cable news has to save room for the opinion section. They 15 minutes of commercials, and 13.5 minutes of opinion. A minute and a half is all they can spare for news.

[@LeoMajor1]

Crazy times my friend

[@fiendish9474]

@@whoisjohngalt11 wtf. sounds like a huge waste of time

[@jonathanparsons4455]

Much better that we can now turn off the television.

[@idonthavetime2reply14]

"I will do everything in my power to abandon Americans." - *Joe Biden* 🇨🇳

[@Wealthich2]

In the shadows of recent times, we stand witness to the strength of Afghan hearts. Many, like us, left home in search of safety and hope for Afghanistan's renewal. Among struggles, Afghan youth rise unwavering, reflecting the spirit within all of us striving in finance and entrepreneurship. Let's stand with them, sharing their stories and celebrating their strength. In the face of hardships spanning two years, these brave souls press on, painting a path to a brighter future. As we remember August 15th, let's keep alive the resilience that transcends borders and binds us all.

[@drugoviic]

youv'e wrote hundreds of words for no reason, Afghans peoples problems were created by themselves, if they let the American carry on their mission and establish a democratic government, none of these problems would have existed in the first place, but muslims have a mentality to just fight anyone without looking at the bigger picture

[@Aksarallah]

wth are you saying?

[@IkanisuShikari]

Props to Ms. Hassan. She has real guts, getting in there and interviewing the Taliban face to face. Nothing but respect for that woman.

[@fahadfaisal7855]

There was NO face-to-face. Did you notice fine art of video editing? The answers from the Taliban commander could've been answers to many different kind of questions asked nicely...and then you see how Hassan is edited in asking the questions. Never happened. Vice News=Fake News!

[@tobsw3802]

Why would the deliberately send a woman to interview the fucking Taliban? That's not "guts", that's stupid. It's like purposely sending a child to interview a pedophile.

[@leggonarm9835]

Yeah there were hard cuts in that interview lol.

[@elixiumx]

She’s a traitor. She literally ran to the bad guys, dressed up for them and sat down with them. Wtf is wrong with people? Don’t care if she press

[@salaahkhayr2398]

@@tobsw3802 gender equality, equal rights equal lefts. It’s over the old era of ‘but she’s a woman.’ thanks to feminists and liberals.

[@nebiyumesfin4416]

"If you ever feel useless, just remember that it took USA 4 presidents, trillions of dollars, millions of lives and 20 years to replace Taliban with Taliban" @RajatSharmaLive

[@jaxxonmayfume1614]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3ulYpWQis14jpo&ab_channel=CoxxaColla

[@drdre3092]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpbbeX1nfL53d6s..

[@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr]

The US's goal was never to stop the taliban or help Afganistan. We go to war because it's profitable for a few people. That's it. That's all war ever is.

[@listychick]

feel so sorry for the children and women, they are the lifegivers, reason the homes are comfortable, reason you all continue. yet they are treated like slaves. our creator put men and women together to make life and to love, not to rule and hurt n treat like slaves. oneday after you are gone from this life, you will find the same kind of life you haver given waiting for you, not virgins

[@mrmusi4512]

All power on earth is useless against the pious mujahideen

[@PCPSolutions]

"This wasn't a failure of the Afghan military" guy then explains why it was a failure of the Afghan military...

[@deangreen1309]

Krishna is an absolute idiot in my mind after this video

[@lontongtepungroti2777]

exactly.. i dont understand why he saying that, isn't they themself saw what the afgan military do on that video..

[@gokublaclivesmatter7151]

I thought I was the only one who can see how dumb that guy is

[@dinoburre9826]

I think the takeaway is that it’s not the boots on the ground that failed in fighting the war, but the higher ups! You can have 10 000 willing soldiers and one useless general to get this result We could argue saying that “coward American troops is the reason for this mess” is equally wrong when it was a political discussion to pull the out in the worst possible manners 🤷‍♂️

[@jeffmckinney1500]

@@deangreen1309 13

[@hellohello8556]

Dear God please bring your peace, your love and your justice to the people of Afghanistan.

[@magical8013]

So we basically just made another Army, with all the supplies we gave them. I'm not surprised

[@RelMexLive]

Same

[@MannyDelReal]

But those supplies won’t last bro

[@rufiorufioo]

Yeah absolutely. The "specially trained" soldiers gave up all the Humvees and machineguns ect. It's extraordinary how someone won't fight for their own land. If that was my land I would fight no matter what. Except death.. that's just how it goes.

[@spankmedaddytrump5612]

@@MannyDelReal what do you mean you would fight for your land no matter what except death?

[@marquisearmstrong5941]

@Dmx19 on the black market but that’s mostly cia and sas agents

[@zainaliamin3491]

Afghan President: I've a plan boys People: What is it? Afghan President: *has left the game

[@mdhasanuzzaman7745]

rather i have a plane

[@andromeda7394]

More like the Präsident of the galactic federation from rick and morty. "Gentleman ! Gentleman!! There's a solution here you are not seeing" *President has left*

[@tutumazibuko2510]

"THERE'S A SOLUTION HERE YOU'RE NOT SEEING"

[@John-nb1ri]

real life rage quit

[@user-kt3qm1hu9z]

Ope lol

[@frank4uever]

"How can you defeat an enemy who sees the paradise under the barrel of your gun "-- Dmitry Ustinov Soviet general

[@beastmodejay8970]

Some one once told me how can u defeat an enemy that has never seen the end of war...

[@skiz8848]

sounds a little gay

[@christhedoc8689]

the americans defeated the talibans, alqaeda and ISIS so many times!! but because the Americans didn't want to build their own government in Afghanistan then people think they lost??? 😂

[@enriqueosorio3731]

@@christhedoc8689 if that was the case, they wouldn't be taking over Afghanistan right now

[@AnTran-gp9ws]

Thanos snap

[@Mohammadfahimzaland95]

Is the best report I have ever seen, I really appreciate the female correspondent who went and met Taliban. I am original from Pashtun territory and and I was living under Taliban regulation and government since my childhood, I know them very well. The female member of Afghanistan who are living in Kabul or any other area which is safe and no fighting there, they have high fear of Taliban but that brave outsider famel correspondent met them. Wooow

[@relaxingsounds4821]

Did the taliban allow usury in their country?

[@joestendel1111]

The Afghan military refused to fight, even your reporter admitted that there were only a few hundred willing fighters in a army of hundreds of thousands

[@homegirl4155]

I noticed this too... complete contradiction

[@monsiursnowman66]

Could be forgiven for assuming maybe a number of ANA soldiers were playing both sides of the same coin ? The west are too naive for their own good

[@gearloose703]

Afghan military died in tens of thousands already fighting the taliban, much more so than US troops. They were counting on US air support and drone surveillance. When biden pulled the plug on that I would have run as well, even in my own country if all support would be gone and knowing it is the end. I don't know if he was just too dumb to understand the consequences or did this knowingly the army would just quit.

[@Videosdaily11]

They were tired because outnumbered & outgunned .. get ur facts right

[@Videosdaily11]

@@johnnygoody8239 may be.. then why u.s made jokers join army ...20 years & us army couldn't find strong men 😂😂

[@TONEakaSHOW]

Afgan President: "I will stand with my people" Also Afgan President: "is my plane ready for escape"

[@drewharrison1840]

Ted Cruz 🤝 Afghan President

[@mariohenriquez8599]

Coward.!

[@michaelotieno6524]

Finally Afghan President: I still stand with my people...over here in Tajikistan

[@angelite143]

He was a fucking puppet

[@asirnewazkhan4172]

@@aratirao9007 ah we meet again

[@EBOOMA1500]

I’m going to watch this 10 years later and see how much has changed

[@510faithfulforlife7]

It never changes.

[@Henry-dy2ty]

Hopefully it changes in a decade

[@susdad]

If you’re alive

[@510faithfulforlife7]

@@Henry-dy2ty The same thing will happen again, and again. The U.S. needs to stop nation building, it isn't working.

[@DudeManBroShow]

@@Henry-dy2ty Afghanistan has been the same for thousands of years. Never ending internal conflict. Hopefully it doesn’t spill out and remains isolated to Afghanistan

[@SMGJohn]

That war was meant to last as long as possible, funny how even VICE cannot figure that one out.

[@jsamc]

Mmmm very good deduction . The MIC at work.

[@cd5433]

They know its just that Vice is and has always been propaganda

[@AdityaTripathi]

These reporters are insane. I hope and pray that all the civilians make it out safely.

[@alicechengo3003]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/amnQdqFtl9yCmcU

[@ac3d657]

Fingers crossed they don't make it.

[@themercifulguard3971]

@@ac3d657 Dude the Taliban has gotten various reporters and did nothing to them in the past few days

[@googleprofile6660]

@@themercifulguard3971 exactly

[@soloassasins9407]

@@themercifulguard3971 ofc, they want them to get their voices heard

[@philu3]

How are the Afghanis shocked by the Taliban making it in Kabul? I've been following the military action since 2001, and the Taliban was ALWAYS there. One day US troops would train some Afghan men, the next day, the same men would fight alongside the Taliban. When Biden announced months ago.that the US would leave this year, it was OBVIOUS that the Taliban would take over.

[@stevengill1736]

Absolutely....another parallel to the fall of Saigon.

[@a.b.c.d.e...]

The shock is mainly how fast it went down, not that it happened

[@chauna5413]

Yupp exactly ! The people who were in the military were also low key taliban

[@aksmex2576]

It wasn't obvious like you say it was. Especially when the US president and many other governments were surprised by it.

[@nc8507]

Spot on! The worst part is I don't think there was any scenario where pulling out of Afghanistan doesn't result in the Taliban getting back into power. Whether it was Trump, Obama or Biden or whoever comes after.

[@Edwinpayesss]

Politics aside, I feel so bad for the women and children who I can only imagine feel so helpless right now. Very very sad.

[@وصفاتالمغربوالعالم]

I felt bad for them for the past 20 years they have spent under Washington's invasion, terror and fire.

[@saxonderohan9723]

Why? Most of them support the Taliban. Would you rather have a foreign military in your country running things and telling you what to do, while backing up a corrupt puppet regime? Or some religious people from your own country who you don’t necessarily share all of their beliefs? Think about it like choosing between Communist China coming into the U.S. and backing a government of their choosing, or a bunch of gun nuts from the Bible Belt who want to institute a theocracy based strictly on the Bible. I wouldn’t be thrilled about either, but I’d take my chances with my own people rather than a foreign military.

[@k10batmama]

@@وصفاتالمغربوالعالم im guessing from that name that you are a Muslim eh? You know religion is completely bullshit right? Ooohhh yeah thats right you don't because you are a complete moron.

[@Gimsu]

300k AFGAN FIGHTERS well equiped from usa, raised their hands up, COWARDS. left their women and children back and they run tors the airport. FIGHT FOR YOUR LANDS, COWARDS. OH god as a greek this triggers me so much.

[@AverageDiamondPlayer]

@@k10batmama how eloquent

[@aaaaaabbbbbbccccccd1]

“She snuck into Taliban territory” as she stands obviously and questions them

[@linuxdeveloperuy]

It looked like she was not even in the same room in the last part of the interview and everything was edited

[@337-k5x]

The entire country is taliban territory

[@sundalongpatpat]

@@337-k5x maps say otherwise. i mean they pretty much control Afghanistan but technically not the entirety of it.

[@network3492]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIC7fHpriL57Z8k

[@netplayer90]

@@linuxdeveloperuy 💯

[@munooro]

If you're trying to protect your contacts in Afghanistan, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING THEIR VOICES UNEDITED ???

[@aksmex2576]

I saw one where they say he is hiding, then they show his pictures and his family....

[@Neiwun]

Also the blurring of their faces wasn't that useful since the Taliban could identify them from their clothes or the inside of the house, which were still clearly visible. The viewer didn't need to see anything at all, and their voices should have been edited!

[@stollstoll1691]

The carelessness is of the charts.

[@gretathuumberg]

Vice moment

[@gretathuumberg]

@@stollstoll1691 I mean, these guys made a documentary about wet farms in Indonesia(or some other place) and then proceeded to block the video in that country.

[@baeyensraphael3902]

President of Afghanistan: " dont worry guys i have a plan" *President of Afghanistan has disconnected.*

[@mthompson5048]

His plan was to get out with the country's cash. that he hadn't stolen yet

[@Solitude_Guard_]

Don't you mean "Don't worry guys, I have a plane."?

[@pencaricahaya343]

hahaha

[@stopidvideos]

President Biden: “don’t worry guys I have a plan” President Biden proceeds to leave up to 40,000 people and all our military equipment *President Biden: “mission failed, we’ll gettem next time!”*

[@pawsitivenooz]

@@stopidvideos I never understood one thing - why was everyone in Europe and US forced to take people in when the Syrian thing happened? In the past they always just sent their forces in. They never supported a massive migration and forced countries to take in refugees. Isn't anyone wondering why all that happened? To homogenize the world? Muslim religion is one that can not homogenize with other's way of living. So what was the point of that? Now troops are pulled out, before civilians and planes may have to leave some behind?

[@SAILNTWIZARD]

Long life Afghanistan 🏳

[@bluewizzard8843]

How is it going now that your guys are ruling?

[@sdlausen1]

The people in the Afgan army were only in the Afgan army because they were being paid a good salary by America. It wasn't about loyalty, it was about a paycheck. That's it. When push came to shove, they pretty much said aight, jobs over and quit. Media won't tell you that part.

[@harleyskidmore7282]

That shows how much you know, none of them were being paid lol they got supplies but that is all.

[@vicgomes3759]

None of U know..

[@TahoeJones]

Fight, or have female slaves. Wow, that's a hard decision...

[@Dan-Martin]

They didn’t get payed in 7 months lmao

[@MrAussiebloke12345]

"The man who shoots with a camera is more powerful than the man who shoots a gun.........unless the gunman shoots him" - Kungfucius

[@Ikanmasblup]

A bullet wound cannot hurt someone as powerfull and incomprehensible as the Camera man

[@jibinramat2602]

Who is kungfucius🙄

[@kratosboy5557]

Gayyyyyyyy

[@xjww8623]

Stupid lol

[@gibusvisionguy5814]

Ah yes kungfucius

[@LowkAlexander]

This is why people study history... to avoid things like this Edit: Thanks for the likes I’m a history major in my senior year at ucla. Frantz Fanon, Cesaire, and Gichardinni (historical cycles) are some people to look into to understand why people knew this was coming. Bless.

[@HeHasRisen.]

Well they aren't doing a good job at it. The Brits tried thier hands in Afghanistan in the 1800s and lost, than the soviets in the 80s, and now the USA. Will China be next ?

[@jasonscottjenkins]

@@HeHasRisen. You can bet that China is just chomping at the bit to get access to Afghanistan. It will end even worse for them.

[@waningfizzle8318]

it’s similar to the fall of South Vietnam but there were major differences as well. ARVN troops held out for over two years after the American withdrawal. Afghans, on the other hand, generally are more likely to align themselves politically with other Muslims than accept a western style of government, hence the swift victory by the Taliban.

[@mulkanmulkan5620]

@@waningfizzle8318 ARVN n ANA have same in common... yanks puppet dog.... puppet dog can't do anything if they master leave 😆

[@rza2ch]

@@jasonscottjenkins China has expressed support for the Taliban. All China wants is access to Afghan natural resources and will probably end up colonising the region without resistance.

[@goldyt4225]

"You have the watches, we have the time" Sums up so-called war on terrorism

[@MADDcartman]

“A few hundred willing soldiers.” How is that not a lack of will again? Sounds like the 300k “Afghan army” was literally a paper army. It was a paycheck not a willing army. You can’t pay for that.

[@chulo9716]

Exactly dude was contradicting himself so much😭

[@mwhawley]

Yea that was so frustrating to hear at the beginning. Of course a large part of this failure was a lack of will; I mean, how could it not have been? We trained their army for 20 years, gave them tens of billions in equipment and on the ground support, and they still couldn’t last more than a couple weeks. I mean hell, that’s the definition of not having the will to fight. It’s also partly just due to the makeup of the country apparently. There’s been a lot of discussion this week about how there’s not really a sense of a cohesive national identity, but Afghanistan is rather a collection of tribes that people identify with on a small, localized scale. Thus, it’s exponentially more difficult to create a national army. But regardless, it’s an incredibly nuanced and difficult situation. All we can do now is wish for the best.

[@SM-rk9wz]

Absolutely. The interviewer say "Our own Ben Solomon was just in Afghanistan, and says the failure to stop the Taliban had nothing to do with a lack of will" and one of the first thing Ben says is "We didn't expect and we didn't foresee that these soldiers would just so quickly give up the city" It absolutely sounds to me like Ben agrees with Biden that it's a lack of will.

[@GSteneman]

@@SM-rk9wz exactly. I don’t understand where they even came up with that “not due to a lack of will line”, to talk to any American troop stationed in Afghanistan and they’ll say the same thing, the Afghan army largely had no will.

[@Capitan1Capitan]

I imagine any of you in that same situation, against thousands of soldiers would of done the same. All you here behind a screen giving your stupid opinions and how "lack of will" stfu, these man did what they had to be alive today

[@dylanbca]

Can't say it isn't a lack of will when the whole regular army gives up without a fight

[@jyotiplaban]

pawns can't fight without rooks, knights, queens and kings !

[@christinapomponio6452]

Go watch vice's documentary called "this is what winning look like ". It shows exactly how those ppl were untrainable

[@jyotiplaban]

@@christinapomponio6452 Exactly , Pawns needs to be trained to be knights or rooks

[@MissMy5.0]

@@jyotiplaban So you will wait for orders to help to save the life of your child? People choose, people fight, people fall, people rise. Personal responsibility sir!!!

[@ArugaPH]

@@jyotiplaban when we talk about army. It includes those rooks and knights. They even are the face of their army.

[@american-professor]

The dude was like "lack of will to fight of the Afghan army is an oversimplification" and then a minute later "a small minority of soldiers had a will to fight, which was not enough to win". WTF?

[@HamzaKhan-bg9fh]

It is an oversimplification because it implies the fault is entirely with the soldiers. When in reality a great deal of it is with how the US set up an ineffective government, overlooked corruption, made it dependent on itself for logistics, and then pulled out as if soldiers would think that government was worth dying for.

[@joela.4058]

Kinda of an unproductive blame game. In my eyes it falls more on the responsibility of the soldiers. They have weapons, they have training. Do they want a taliban gov or not?

[@johnholmes2745]

@@joela.4058 they didn’t have sufficient military training nor did they have morale after the US left without installing sufficient stability militarily and administratively. Yes, blame can be allotted to the former Afghan government and military, but more so is attributable to the political incompetence of the US and UK

[@dylanbarnes4486]

@@johnholmes2745 Bro, it's been 20 years. If anything this shows that no amount of years could've prepared Afghanistan for this. I spent a tour in Afghanistan and so i have some anecdotal evidence. President Biden even asked his advisors how long will it take to prepare the ANA to defend against the Taliban and none of them could give him an answer so he made the sensible decision and continued to pull out. If we spend a generations worth of time training and equipping an Army for it to still not be prepared then that is no longer on us, at some point the weight has to be shouldered by the Afghans.

[@johnholmes2745]

@@dylanbarnes4486 I concede it was correct to pull out, but logistically leadership fell short of departing effectively. Leaving an abundance of weapons at abandoned bases, afghans clinging to US aeroplanes while bedlam ensues at Kabul airport, and providing insufficient training to afghani forces could have all been prevented if more astute measures were employed.

[@napoleonrabbit]

"They were exhausted" I mean how does that mean no lack of will...😂😂😂

[@DarkKnight-ree]

"2 decades work undone in a week” these words hold very deep meaning. Edit: all the life lost, all the money spent, all the People we faught and bleed for, all the time spent. Each and every step that was took towards this effort in these 2 decades has amount to nothing in the end. That makes me really sad.

[@MayorMcheese12]

If they don't want their country ruled by terrorists then they should fight for it

[@ian123mccarthy3]

“The only people that see the end of war are dead.” It will never end there’s too much money to make in war.

[@Victor-kt6qn]

@@MayorMcheese12 🤦‍♂️

[@Animal-Reaction-Clips]

@@MayorMcheese12 terrorist have already left to america have u been sleeping for 20 years

[@BW-og1vu]

@@MayorMcheese12 it seems you dont have a deep knowledge about afghanistan :-(

[@alanboyer8993]

“Will power was not the issue” “They gave up there heavy weapons and fled to the airport..” Come again…

[@AladeenWashington]

And america was too busy with critical race theory...

[@mangarific1]

Traitors higher in the ranks. The soldiers are willing to fight for their country, the officials have been bribed and coerced.

[@cjspyker]

@@AladeenWashington what that got to do with the military

[@juanpabloperelmuter690]

@@mangarific1 soldiers could have fought anyways. There are a lot of examples in history where soldiers disobeyed their commanding officers and took the fight into their own hands. This men the moment they saw they had an opportunity to flee the country surrendered. You don't need an officer to tell you to fight for your country, if you have the will you will fight

[@sonyablade3001]

so yeah you obviously did not listen to his speech till the end did ya?

[@ecclairmayo4153]

He admitted that there were only a few hundred WILLING soldiers. There was so much corruption and low morale that most did not put up a fight, but instead gave up their weapons in a negotiation.

[@thebrowncountertop]

Check out Vices “This is what Winning looks like”. These people fighting in the army are farmers who are upset bc they have no protection for their families while they “fight” the taliban. Also a lot of opiate abuse.

[@zedrhyx1788]

@Darren some got will but knowing the commanders are abandoning them and selling their own country is demoralizing

[@dogo5255]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIC7fHpriL57Z8k .

[@daylights7323]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIC7fHpriL57Z8k .

[@naniv]

Any journalist going there is brave af and deserves a raise

[@andreaslundin4850]

"If you scratch your enemy's balls, he might scratch yours." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

[@letrantantaile7018]

@Super Bad damn

[@bruh.2869]

@@mhdiii_3565 lol

[@lousiano8813]

@@mhdiii_3565 now thats a fuc k face comment ! 😂😂 Nice one

[@GameSpyDarkAge]

@@mhdiii_3565 "Stop misquoting ne on the Internet" - George Washington

[@andromaxbse6459]

@@mhdiii_3565 "Please, don't get me started.." -Jeff Bezos

[@Nothere780]

Reporter: “So you’re just going to chop this mans hand off and implement your version of justice across the country? The UN doesn’t like that!” Taliban: “Yes.”

[@GAMEOVER-yy6zj]

Taliban: Yeah!

[@MarcosPerez-pq5pl]

Who cares what the un likes.. They just want western ideals to reign supreme.. Its no different

[@kurvitaschthedictator]

Taliban: "What're you going to do about it? Greta thunberg the U.N security council?"

[@malisangarepa1809]

No steal... No chop

[@drakoontag]

@@malisangarepa1809 simple, right!

[@paullydeux2266]

"make sure the will of the people is with you while waging war" -Sun Tzu

[@chingpu]

@Ger Mex How do you know that?

[@hanzalaomar9915]

@Ger Mex evidence please?

[@alfredberry1199]

Millennials before U$A screwed up in Vietnam first and middle east after. They never learn😆😆😆🇺🇲💩

[@ReclusiveEagle]

STFU with your fk ing qoutes like nobody cares. We get it "yOu aRe EdUcaTEd"

[@fucker9002]

what would u do, starved and sleep deprived, out gunned, out numbered, its not just the will that you need its resources too.

[@pizzajona]

When people say “the Afghan military didn’t have the will” they’re not talking about the soldiers. They’re talking about a collective action problem by the commanders and political leaders where they can either all choose to fight (and most likely win) or if a few lay down arms then the other will have to as well. The Afghan military outmanned and outgunned the Taliban. They could’ve taken them on

[@danielseaburg9763]

No, they're talking about the soldiers. They wanted their legal rxpe. They wanted their legal child rxpe. That's why they refused to fight for their nation. Now they have the nerve to go ''uwu it's so bad''. You all had AKs, RPGs, Tanks, at your disposal, but a 12 year old's ankle was more appealing. I feel sorry for the women of afghanistan, and the children, not for the pathetic cucked loser child rxping ''men'' of afghan.

[@worldview730]

that's another symptom of a lack of will by a higher ranking solider

[@bluewizzard8843]

These soldiers we're a small elite force. The navy seals alone wouldn't be able to defend the US.

[@RollcagerX]

**Afghanistan under Taliban rule is a dangerous place for women.** News Outlets: Lets send in our female reporters.

[@Fabiochesco9884]

She must have someone to protect her, or just bribing someone. That is a good point though.

[@carbonara2144]

Has it been safe there for the last 20 years?

[@hermesmercuriustrismegistu4841]

hahahaha

[@hextree]

Sending in female reporters sends a message to the Taliban, and also to the women of Afghanistan. Seems like a smart move. Obviously she has some protective escort with her.

[@daglar2991]

@@hextree what kind of message is this?

[@aimanansari2642]

Things you can't find when needed the most- 1 safety pin 2 nail cutter 3 sim ejector pin 4 United Nation

[@Sea-qv4sd]

What’s the UN meant to do? Say Afghanistan can’t govern itself or what

[@psychomami4415]

Damn it u got me

[@toorealsagemckenzie9033]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnLSp3eej8agl9k 2 females kiII the taliban

[@darkpierce9561]

The un cant just go in and fight it

[@outremer91]

These guys got a speed run world record.

[@mannyk1lla750]

They playin Minecraft speed run irl 💀

[@rickrolld1367]

They achieved this first try as well Beat the WR by a year

[@Zov631]

They outrun Usain Bolt lol

[@beastmodejay8970]

This definitely was the plan from the US wont be surprised if the CIA didn't help them

[@emanuelgonzalez1975]

Germans big mad rn cause these fools did it in unarmored Toyota’s and sandals.

[@krichard2346]

Such respect for Vice news reporters.Balls of steel.

[@tempk490]

I feel like these guys should watch Vice's documentary from 2013 about how miserably corrupt and broken the Afghan security forces were. Sure there are some that want to fight like the guys in that special forces unit, but most did not.

[@akhilraaj]

Exactly, some elite unit doesn’t represent the entire afghan army

[@markopodganjek845]

If they would want to. Fight they would fight. They just escaped instead of fight. Where they escaped? To the west. To live another 20 years from US tax money.

[@jaxxonmayfume1614]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3ulYpWQis14jpo&ab_channel=CoxxaColla

[@nikolakaravida9670]

Exactly. In fact many of the ANA support the Taliban and defect to them. On paper, the ANA is much stronger, and if it actually fought, it would beat the Taliban. The catch is that they aren't fucking fighting - it's a bad joke. The grunts' morale is practically nonexistent, most are in it solely for the pay and many sympathize with the Taliban, the officers are corrupt and incompetent. The only ANA units actually doing something are the special forces, but they're far too outnumbered.

[@chad3232132]

The guy being interviewed is extremely naive. Those forces were *ALWAYS* going to capitulate to the Taliban in a matter of months regardless of how advanced the weapons and equipment we gave them were. In fact, we gave the Afghan forces the mediocre equipment and no real air force because we *knew* they would capitulate and turn the weapons over to the Taliban. The Afghan gov't never had any real support outside of Kabul and a couple other of the largest cities. Funny how the minority of Afghans living in those cities are the only people being interviewed by reporters.

[@codylujan]

afghan president: "alright guys, not to worry, I have a plan!" *afghan president has left the match*

[@lilys9695]

And then sitting there waiting to till being hanged on street ?

[@Deenique16]

He had no choice but to leave.

[@final4008]

Imagine that happening with a US president

[@The_power22]

@@final4008 lol I see what you did 😂

[@anhtunguyen781]

Bro really, he could stay there for negotiations, yeah I understand that he was scared but that is like saying that it is OK for a man to abandon the woman he impregnated because he was scared, straight up irresponsible

[@TaZ101SAGA]

"Why didn't we see it coming?" Because you weren't paying attention. The rest of us were.

[@ijsimple8385]

Biden nor his admin didn't knew that most of the afgan military higher ups would just plain say "ok let's give up". Same goes to the elite part of the afgan military. They were order to stand down and the Taliban just swooshed in

[@ijsimple8385]

@Super Bad and that makes it sad, 20 years of training wasted. The U.S can't be a police force for a war not theirs

[@matter9145]

The public didn't see it coming. The people in charge knew since the beginning.

[@shootermcgavin6519]

YOU didn't see that coming? Then you never played cowboys and Indians as child.biden should be tried for treason, letting all the weapons and technology fall into the hands of the enemy.

[@Zer0nite]

@@shootermcgavin6519 Trump was the one who made the U.S. forces pull out, you clown. Biden has to go along with it now that he's in office, but this just proves that you idiots don't do any of that precious "research" you pretend to do.

[@tooply6739]

great reporting

[@ashantorahmanmirza8403]

Biased cover

[@amirulnaufal687]

Napoleon Bonaparte: Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Taliban: Okay

[@gearloose703]

Not quite. Taliban did interrupt and took a gamble. Normal person or military in such position would correct his actions, but not president biden. He kept going with the mistake regardless of any interruptions by anyone.

[@user-fz1lo9dy2s]

@@gearloose703 That is his point.

[@dylanthesea2976]

What is this mistake? Pulling out? What was the last 20 years for anyway?

[@PatrickFitzgerald..]

Buahahahah well played my good sir

[@thedirty530]

This process was started last year... And bragged that it couldn't be stopped. 20 years too long!

[@usssanjacinto1]

"You cannot negotiate with a tiger, when your head is in it's mouth!" -Winston Churchill

[@davidomego]

except it wants to negotiate with you

[@ricky7973]

"This chicken is not cooked well" - your mom

[@gothenmosph5151]

The US has the assets to retake Kabul immediately. The power the Taliban has is that it knows the US wants to withdraw. Neither party wants to test the other. The Talibans strength has always lied in its ability to avoid the US and not directly confront it.

[@JarJarBinkz68]

@@gothenmosph5151 exactly. the us can come back and eliminate more than half of the taliban if it wants to.

[@miekielbilal3297]

Lol why isn't it then . for 20 year US tried destroying the Taliban like grow up

[@CFLsurfr]

So...the Afghan army DID give up their arms and retreat and Afghan leaders told them to do so. Thanks for confirming it, Ben.

[@joshuaduplaa9033]

Yeah he contradicted himself within like 30 seconds

[@RuciosDubstepMixs]

Ya I was super confused

[@raven6955]

any army collapses without a leader you are too dumb to realise that

[@whydoineedaname11]

@@raven6955 he literally mentions the failed leadership. Read better.

[@TheKalihiMan]

The previous government was more or less a puppet of the United States, artificially held together. In reality they shared almost no substantive policy differences with the Taliban besides their overt US backing and at least tentative willingness to allow democracy, and it should come as no surprise that their resistance crumbled at the mere mention of a US withdrawal. They had no will to fight because they were a product of the US occupation, not anything resembling the will of the people of the country.

[@user-wf7qm]

The Taliban after conquering Afghanistan: I don't know, I never thought I'd get this far.

[@ashramhunk]

Things you can't able to find when needed the most : 1. Nail cutter 2. Eraser 3. Sim ejector pin 4. United Nations 5. President of Afghanistan

[@grock1943]

NAIL CUTTERS BRUU SO TRUEEEE

[@azexnewmai3607]

Things you can definitely find: try hards blaming UN

[@laughingclairvoyant5201]

Yeah us should be in 1st number they every time run from this type of situation yeah I accept they have helped Afghanistan since many years but why back off now after losing so many troops these terrorists should be punished and there should be independence for people there

[@shoutforit]

You are so funny dude

[@SuperJvolt]

@@grock1943 here’s a tip, pick a place in your house preferably a drawer where you’ll put your nail cutter each time after using it, haven’t lost mine in years

[@RIP_Greedo]

I’m not sure how Ben’s story debunks the notion that the Afghan army is at least partially to blame, given how in his own telling they surrender before the fighting starts. The elite unit that was allegedly ready to fight had to surrender bc the rest of the army gave up and handed over their equipment.

[@CyrussNP]

Then you weren’t paying attention. Yes they laid down their weapons, what else could they do? They had no ammo, food, supplies or backup. The US was giving so much money to the Afghan government KNOWING they were corrupt and pocketing it instead of properly equipping, paying and feeding their military. This is a foreign policy failure of the US for the past 20 years.

[@Stevethelightingguy]

The generals surrendered for them, it wasn't necessarily a lack of nerves on an individual level

[@albertoalfonso7835]

@@CyrussNP again thats Afghanistan fault allowing corruption to live through their country. They could’ve used that money for their people but refused. Thats their own fault

[@ankrisstark7824]

@@albertoalfonso7835 that is an incredibly stupid thing that you are saying, so the poor afganis didn’t have access to those funds because they were provided to their political elite who spent it due to corruption and yet they are at fault for that corruption itself? If anything it is our fault for giving the money to the wrong individuals while we knew they were spending it in corruption scandals

[@LyonzDen]

if are aren't willing to die for your country you aren't a soldier.

[@Rollermonkey1]

"It's an insult to say that this was due to the lack of will of the Afghani people to fight" Ten seconds later: "What we didn't expect, what we didn't foresee, was that these soldiers would so quickly just give up the city." Um.

[@Paladine1616]

Then mentions "only a few hundred willing soldiers." Um, what?

[@andremacedo8463]

They HAD to give up because they didnt had basic supplies, no ammo, no food, would you just expect them to fight for nothing?

[@fitnesspoint2006]

Rollerboy if you sooo concerned for the afghan people go over their and fight

[@bigfloppa5731]

@@fitnesspoint2006 Alright I will, just give me a predator drone real quick...

[@bruderschweigen6889]

They want to be ruled by the Taliban cant see any other way no way any man could put his daughters, wife or sister's life on the line before his own they should have fought with sticks if they had to

[@gylesherbert4716]

Respect to Hinda Hassan, asking the taliban tough questions like that took guts!!

[@MrWadrO]

What a waste of money, resources, and more importantly human lives.

[@drmachinewerke1]

The lives lost is just going to get started. Watch what happens. I see women, children grape in front of the father and then him dealt with on video. Minus his head.

[@rongike]

humans cost more alive than dead.

[@Amarillobymorning777]

@@rongike : you are very very very expensive. soon or later.

[@jackswanson1725]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6iTpHV8hN-nr8k ⬆️⬆️Have you seen the video Dropping ACID in Prison

[@thethree60five]

For much time to come.

[@MoeMoe-bb5ls]

1939: The nazis, show the world what blitzkrieg means 2021: the taliban, hold my Toyota pickup truck

[@wesman7837]

As they jump in the Hummer's left behind, and pick up as much small arms, and ammunition as they can fit in the Hummer's.

[@alfredberry1199]

Soviet union were a bit more resistent than those weak azz USA-trained afghan toy soldiers. We just see again how usa can't win a war for 💩💩😆😆

[@VirallVariety]

When u don’t know how to use a meme template

[@MoeMoe-bb5ls]

@@alfredberry1199 ok, I got you stalin

[@alfredberry1199]

@@MoeMoe-bb5ls 💁🏼✌🏻🤙🏻

[@Ben-we4ej]

Finally looking like the old vice. 22 minutes long and extremely interesting. Exactly what viewers are looking for.

[@anyonomonmous12232]

@@fuzzymeep nah Im tired of hearing about Trump in the news.

[@gsmith557]

Facts OG Vice is back in the trenches

[@damnman677]

someone says this every other video lol

[@OnpointSoccerhighlights]

Exactly

[@aratirao9007]

🟦SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES JOURNALISTIC CONTENT LIKE VICE

[@allgo7110]

This withdraw is a disrespect to any and every life ever lost or affected by this war in the last 20 years on our side.

[@charlesdumont8403]

"They didn't lack the will to fight." 30 seconds later, "their leaders told them to stand down." Umm.

[@jfoard1]

The fighters had the will and were ready. Leaders didn’t

[@charlesdumont8403]

​@@jfoard1 It doesn't matter if individual fighters were willing to fight (a few hundred according to the report, as the rest were "too tired") . The Afghan military establishment, whom we funded, equipped and trained, gave up almost immediately. The American people have been defrauded to the tune of a trillion dollars.

[@NikoChristianWallenberg]

@@jfoard1 exactly so, Jen.

[@scottostrowski5406]

Because it’s a political negotiation. Why fight with people who speak your language, believe the same religion, are of the same ethnic group, and they’re saying they’ll let you go if you surrender. America is gone, there’s no purpose now in fighting for a government that won’t exist much longer

[@slickrick2420]

@@scottostrowski5406 Most Taliban are Pashtun. Most of ANA aren't. There are different languages and ethnicities in Afghanistan. Tajiks, Hazara, Pashtun etc

[@mrwilliams8623]

If the US left 20 years from now this would still happen the same.

[@valleyforge1264]

Exactly

[@f-86zoomer37]

The same, but with more unnecessary deaths on both sides. We left 20 years too late.

[@alexb2873]

No you’re completely incorrect. There should have been a plan of withdrawal in place and negotiations with the taliban in order to secure the safety of all the American lives that are still over there and maintain the democracy that was built. This administration completely abandoned the country and left an extensive armament in the hands of the taliban. Now they’re armed to the teeth and stronger than ever with nobody to tell them otherwise, but of course it’s easy to repeat what you hear and not use your head.

[@alexb2873]

Do you have any idea how many innocent people will die because this administration abandoned the country ?

[@f-86zoomer37]

@@alexb2873 Lol you're the one who doesn't use your head. I bet you got that nice essay of talking points from being a typical American tv consoomer.

[@HAMID___]

She’s brave as hell

[@syamilshazlan862]

She has nothing to be afraid of she means them no harm..its against islamic teachings to mistreat women n go against their will.to do so would be a sin n islam shuns that..dont believe everythg u see..

[@AbdullahKhan-em2ol]

Nope. They invited her XD

[@lifeafter2020istrash]

@@MultiTatanya what? she is going into a dangerous zone,

[@lifeafter2020istrash]

@@AbdullahKhan-em2ol what’s so funny.

[@bovdoyle2942]

@@syamilshazlan862 are you going to try to sell me women in islamic country wear the burqa wilfully?

[@ItzHomely]

Salam everyone. Im a Afghanistan person. This is what happened. Taliban rushed Afghanistan way too fast and nobody didn’t even know. In our neighborhood this morning. Ppl were getting shot and I had to leave Afghanistan. This is a sobbing story. Now Afghanistan population is very low.

[@matthe3234]

Vice: To say Afghan soldiers lacked the will to fight is an oversimplification. Also vice: 1,000 out of 180,000 Afghan soldiers showed the will to fight and is not an oversimplification.

[@umersalman1]

More like 1000 out of 180,000 afghans showed will to fight AFTER they were given orders to put their weapons down and get the hell out of dodge. I am more interested in who gave the order to stand down ? What happened? Did the president fleeing caused this ? or was it pre-planned ?

[@joeymarks8957]

“Racial Hatred” kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGrEh2OFgNafiLs

[@lj7169]

Your comment is too complicated.

[@mojtabas4098]

@@umersalman1 it was pre planned to prevent endless civil war. so they took cities without firing shots.

[@blackhawk8920]

@@lj7169 whose?

[@gamerlew127]

Everything I’ve watched from Vice over the years has pointed towards a devastating end to this war. The writing has been on the wall for a very long time.

[@cottonballs185]

You needed to be spoon fed the obvious from VICE News? Is the Conflict older than your are or something

[@gamerlew127]

@@cottonballs185 Why are you on the attack? Don’t think people thought this would be the final outcome at the start of the war. Remember in the early years when western press and politicians insisted that this would not be another Vietnam? I hope that also answers you’re question about my age big man.

[@gamerlew127]

@King Harold Devastating for the civilians that don’t want to live under the rule of the Taliban!

[@thehomie6059]

vice and other journalists made tons of reports about the corruption of the main military of the afghans and yet we still funded millions towards them. The only force that actually fought were the afghan special forces which is probaly not even 0.1% of the army. afghanistan was a huge mistake and the fact that it was allowed to happen is disgraceful

[@alekseymel7852]

Well said. And none of the politicians or military leaders will ever pay the price for this disater. Sad.

[@LoganLeGrand]

And they are giving these hacks airtime saying Biden undid all the work they have done over 20 years. No. Biden pulled back the cloth and revealed the truth that they had done nothing except waste billions for 20 years. We installed the government, we funded the military, we allowed the corruption and ignored it for decades. This is what winning looks like.

[@TheSword2212]

@@LoganLeGrand more like 2 trillion

[@lavidawithjoey]

@Eremias Ranwolf Which I wouldn't disagree at all. I simply commented it's chilling the prediction became true.

[@WiewiurTV]

Well the issue is that if we did not go after Taliban during Alqaida years we would have 9/11 every year, Osama hated US for supplying Saudis and corrupting his beloved state, Osama wanted to kill every US soldier on this planet and Civilian and then started a movement which used his millions of wealth to supply a terror group and to make it continue... after his death it merged into small al-qaida groups and rest of soldiers went to the Taliban and some defected to ISIL and got killed by Kurds or Taliban themselves. What US needed to do is to partially withdraw army in stages just like they had done in Iraq or syria and not all at once.

[@sandycheeks-y7l]

Crazy..... Love how you lay everything out and show all the sides, No bias sides, Only true News you can trust now a days 🙏

[@danielthomas5228]

Presenter: "Joe Biden is wrong the Afghan military didn't just give up" Ben *1 minute later*: "We didn't know how to get out the city, the Afghan military gave up so quickly we were trapped"

[@Goldboat618]

This is why I came to the comment section 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@iggiepopped666]

@@Goldboat618 I'm pretty sure it wasn't their choice, the government made a treaty with the taliban and required them to pull out.

[@thesleekgreek]

They gave up all their artillery, their best weapons hummers, heavy guns, in ww2 they would destroy weapons to stop them getting in enemy hands it's just stupid they totally gave up they had superior weaponry and an airfield which could of had supplies dropped right in - in ww2 hundreds would stand against thoussnds there were dozens of examples of outgunned forces standing against bigger armies its just pathetic

[@DoctaBuzz]

Somebody had some hands greased js

[@Goldboat618]

@@iggiepopped666 I don’t know what went in but I know the outcome

[@SockenbartderI]

"Sometimes when you close your eyes, you can t see. " -Sun Tzu

[@badman7711]

Can you explain 🤔

[@dodi6841]

Major wisdom

[@tomcunningham9318]

"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't".

[@xvii145]

KEKW

[@paragonath3637]

This is deffo one of the deepest fundamental truths of life

[@snowjammma]

Great quote "You have the watches but we have the time."

[@alexiszavala4663]

Right? I also found it very interesting

[@hernancortez491]

Not if you kill them all....something modern people find unpalatable.

[@debadityasaha1684]

@@hernancortez491 you cannot kill an ideology.

[@hyukin56ace50]

@@debadityasaha1684 you kill everyone who shares that’s ideal

[@cindyrosa3784]

Is that tailban creedo.

[@mc.grimm2619]

How did no one NOT see it coming?

[@garrettcrouch2086]

"how did we not see it coming?" is this dude serious? we've seen it coming for 20 years lmao

[@adrianmtz8947]

The US top oficial were the only ones who did not (want to ) see it

[@dogo5255]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIC7fHpriL57Z8k

[@sardanapale2302]

Wrong. We have seen it coming for more than 200 years.

[@giggityeffyou]

Weak ass fckin country. They had 20 years to grow a pair and fight back but no... Taliban took over in no time

[@burutatung]

I see where did you got that 20 from😗

[@Elektrolurch89]

the fact nobody wants to hear: the Talibans success would not be possible without significant support from the afghan people. saying no one in afghanistan wants their regime is simply wrong and delusional.

[@dogeofgreatness2222]

Finally someone said it. From blaming Pakistan and China to Iran and Saudia Arabia people in the West or India act as if the Taliban can do this with zero local support.

[@meeemeee8577]

Unfortunately you're right :/

[@gUuUuyYys]

Sure, but explain to me why there were 10s of thousands of people desperately trying to escape the country in fear of the tyranny of the Taliban. Even to the extent of hanging off the plane as they take off. I don't know about "significant" support, but maybe some, sure.

[@Elektrolurch89]

​@@gUuUuyYys Kabul has 4,5 Mio residents. There are 38 Mio people living in Afghanistan. So tens of thousands are actually not that many relativly seen... Of course this doesnt mean that there are not many many Afghans who despise the Taliban and definitely dont want them to rule. By 'significant' in only meant that there definitely were enough to held the Taliban alive during the 20 years (!) of foreign 'occupation' and make the remarkably (!) military successes of the last 2 weeks possible.

[@dogeofgreatness2222]

@@gUuUuyYys sure but explain why so many Afghans were cheering at the arrival of the Taliban. Even to the point of surrounding the returning Taliban leader Maulana Abdul Ghani Bradar. I don't know about "significant" opposition but maybe some sure.

[@clayton2843]

Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't vice themselves do a 3 part series called "this is what winning looks like," where the generalized conclusion was that the Afghan trained forces largely don't have the will to fight?

[@thetexastickler5698]

Ban!!!! You are correct sir

[@therealdadoom7509]

In the last 7 years, the Afghan military has suffered 55k dead fighting the taliban, vs the US 100. We lacked the will to fight, and we screwed them. And I don't mean our troops, I mean us as a country.

[@bigsabs88]

There was also a separate video called the hashish afghan soldiers, basically showing Afghan soldiers who only smoked weed and wouldn't listen to the Americans or their commanders and didn't give af about fighting or patrolling. That video was taken down today by the guardian for some reason.

[@MrJJacks7]

@@user-ze7tl2dw4i Room temperature IQ take on the situation. The U.S armed the Mujahedeen in the 80's, years before the taliban and Al Qaeda were created. After the Soviets left, they had a civil war between multiple different Mujahedeen factions. The U.S supported the Northern Alliance led by Ahmoud Massoud, who fought the taliban and Al Qaeda until the day he was assassinated by a plot organized by Osama Bin Laden 2 days before 9/11. The Taliban and Al Qaeda was supported by Saudis and Pakistani ISI, which is why Bin Laden, a Saudi billionaire with ties to the royal family, in was found in Pakistan in a neighborhood filled with Retired generals and ISI. It's also why the majority of Taliban are Pashtun, which is a large ethnic group in Pakistan. You are not informed enough to be that opinionated

[@clayton2843]

@@dabrams84 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJKYgmprnctph6s

[@jay_b6579]

0:53 “Mr President you’ve just had your morning coffee…. It’s 9:30 in the morning.

[@Blackcuts]

"Hes gonna explain why it wasn't a lack of will to fight" Proceeds to say why they were shocked they gave up so easily.

[@eride810]

But they didn't have a lack of will to fight!! They just had a lack of will to fight...

[@prithvir6668]

Yes

[@chiliwilli04]

Cut to Afghan soldiers packing it up

[@scottalves3656]

Didn't vice release "this is what winning looks like" that shows the afghan army isn't willing to fight? So what is it vice

[@prithvir6668]

@@scottalves3656 afgan army are not too good bro.. they are lacking with weapons

[@randomclips42069]

Everyone is talking about the reporters but no one is appreciating the cameramen...

[@frenchtoast7742]

I think it’s a whole . Some of them do both .

[@aurorajudith-ramirez7389]

Why would they? They are equally as brave and basically doing the same things 😂

[@shaprada]

this meme is dead but i will say it "cameraman is immortal", that's why

[@niviera7807]

@@shaprada Yeah that’s just casual cameraman things

[@nateriver2711]

No one ever gives the love and respect cameramen deserve!

[@MrKruger88]

I find ironic that Afghans are literally dying in their attempt to escape, yet American journalists are risking their lives to get in.

[@suezmeister4132]

because at the end of the day, these American journalists can go back safely in their country, while the Afghans are stuck in their country run by terrorists created by America

[@kpo5330]

@@suezmeister4132 tell us you hate your country without telling us you hate your country. America did not create the taliban 🤡😂

[@jaqueme6567]

@@suezmeister4132 who said they could go back safely? they are literally going into a warzone... an ied or some other explosive could hit them

[@thedrifter2790]

@Dingo Rivera I don’t think you understand the principles of the Taliban.

[@marmitaa8619]

@@kpo5330 Yes they did, you fool.

[@mobashar6502]

As an secualr Afghan who fled the country because of the dire threat of the Taliban, I know how a tragic and calamitous situation Afghans have after the takeover of the Taliban. It‘s unimaginable to think of the tragic events thar are taking place. The media just show a part of the ground reality and they can‘t cover up all of them. The catastrophe and misery are much worse than the reports. I am still in a state of shocked. It‘s the worst experience of my lifetime.

[@DarkKnight-db1dy]

are you atheist?

[@Chico1747]

Fararis from their homes in Europe talking about how they're s3cular 😂😂😂

[@Aksarallah]

I don't think they care about atheists

[@wellread8649]

"It's not that they weren't willing to fight its just that only a couple hundred out of 300,000 were willing to fight."-Vice News

[@tsupi7056]

Exactly! The presenter should watch the 2013 Vice documentary "This is what winning looks like" or hear what his guest had to say before trying to opinate abou the situation.

[@thewarriorwithin4011]

there were no 300000 to begin with it was the number that government gave the international community to get bigger money

[@cocofluff]

That is what happens when the host has such a skewed, biased opinion of the facts that he does not hear his interviewee is saying something completely different. He's giving leading questions expecting one result, but the truth from the white guy is tilting in the opposite direction. It's bad journalism. The host wants to defend Afghan soldiers but the truth on the ground proves THEY JUST GAVE UP.

[@diogobotelho5141]

I laughed when they said "it's not like they didn't want to fight" and then proceed to say that they were not willing to fight lol

[@zubairuyusuf7395]

Their army was never anywhere near 300000

[@paiwanhan]

I feel Biden was talking about the Afghan civilian and military leadership more than the troops on the ground. Although, from the interview it also sounded like aside from the elite forces, most of the troops just gave up fighting all together.

[@horaciodavalos4382]

Thats exactly what happened and biden has a point

[@imperator692]

Biden is totally correct, but at the end of the day it's the Afghan government's fault. The military hasn't been paid in months, if that's not motivation to give up then idk what is.

[@hoteldrama4662]

Beginning of video: "President Biden is wrong, this had nothing to do with a lack of will" 1 Minute later: "They immediately handed the country over without any resistance." 🤔

[@vince5572]

@@imperator692 HEs not correct, we wouldnt need to spend 20 years to help them.

[@kynn884]

@@hoteldrama4662 Yeah thats what i was thinking, this guy says the millitary were working very hard, but they literally surrendered while he was there with them lmao (Can't rly blame the individual soldiers tho)

[@BLaCkKsHeEp]

Joe Biden: its impossible for the Taliban to take over whole Afghanistan. Taliban: hold my goat...

[@rufiorufioo]

Well you would think after funding and training their troops for twenty years they would fight even a little... nope..

[@jasoncronn6806]

@@rufiorufioodisrespectful

[@hahxhwh1262]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmexonSDnK6bqqc About the talibans.

[@mrgamingking18]

I hope the u.s President can have good insight into the actual situation on the ground next time, because what he said was stupid and we all knew it was bullshit

[@yardy88]

*hold my "dancing-boy" and my goat

[@mohammadahsankhajazada8667]

Long live Freedom, peace and love for the free Afghanistan

[@nibblesd.biscuits4270]

When you show up for a court date and one of the judges isn't wearing shoes or socks. Things aren't going to end well for you.

[@2_572]

And smoking a big ass cigar.

[@jerome6578]

They will chop his hand off for stealing a goat lol

[@SuperJvolt]

@@jerome6578 the way he said they may chop of his hand with no hesitation wtf 💀

[@mitchellshaw7739]

Lmfaooooooo

[@AhmedMohamed-pg2bb]

@@jerome6578 good. Now he won’t steal again.

[@nickd340]

"the soldiers who did want to fight didnt have the support" almost like the rest of the afghan army and their leaders didnt have the will to fight.

[@farehanoor6671]

Because they didn't wan a blood shedding again and again. Don't be afraid of Taliban they will bring peace in Afghanistan.

[@coffeebuzz69]

Exactly

[@beanz4505]

@@farehanoor6671 but don't they have horrible laws like the sharia laws or something like that?

[@glhfggwp6232]

@@beanz4505 also I heard they allow forceful under age marriage

[@rathernot6660]

@@beanz4505 wherever your from you have no laws

[@rhysgadbois9833]

“…why didn’t we see this coming?” It was obvious this was going to happen.

[@ameyas7726]

Yeah provinces after provinces were falling to Taliban for months and years....Afghan army was ineffective and corrupt as hell..

[@positivelynegative3260]

Was about to comment this, i'm sure that the military and high officials in more than the United States knew this was coming, pretending that it was not expected is a political move.

[@2415Jan]

@@ameyas7726 Not years, the major fall of provinces happened since mid April. It's on the UN website. There were 5500 attacks since Biden made the announcement the US would be leaving.

[@realhulk7034]

Oh we definitely saw this coming……we were too buzy to be woke, liberal , defunding police…..having an ICECREAM 🍦😤😤😤😤

[@TS-bg7cn]

@I'm something of an expert you mean another Afghanistan

[@sixstringsamic.3717]

Damn brother, i thought for a second the taliban was, the host.