Tobaccoland & Underground Heroin Clinic | VICE on HBO (Season 1, Episode 7)

Segment 1: Tobaccoland
The dangers of smoking are no secret in the U.S., but in Indonesia, the tobacco industry is virtually unregulated. The result? Over two-thirds of all men are smokers, and it is commonplace for children as young as six to take up the habit. Tobacco is a $100 billion industry here, with TV and print ads everywhere. Investigating this phenomenon in Malang, VICE visits a clinic that promises cures to a plethora of modern ailments through tobacco and smoking -- with our intrepid correspondent getting the full smoke-therapy treatment.
Segment 2: Underground Heroin Clinic
Heroin is the most addictive drug on earth, and some people will do anything to kick the habit. Enter Ibogaine -- a drug made out of the African iboga root, whose intense, hallucinogenic properties make it a Type-A felony drug. But many swear it's the most effective way to kick heroin addiction -- especially when combined with a voodoo-type ritual that involves face paint and chanting. VICE follows the journey of a heroin addict who travels to Mexico, where Ibogaine is legal, to try to finally quit.
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[@VICENews]

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[@lailonnietukes4456]

This host is going to regret trying things wherever he go..

[@indramaulana2031]

I, as a resident of Indonesia, have very often seen minors who like to smoke

[@hydehirto1434]

VICE News breaks my heart to see kids smoke

[@native307]

That Quack in the yellow paintsuit should be in Prison

[@dustinmccaulley3563]

Im a heroin addict and want help. Can u get me in contact with this guy.. Its life or death at this point

[@Beth_Tyranny]

I'm 26 days smoke free and watching this really made me more motivated to stay smoke free.

[@blackhelicopters]

Good job man! Not easy, I'm in the same boat currently, about as far along as you. Keep it up!

[@Beth_Tyranny]

blackhelicopters You too man! It's hard but it's rewarding.

[@mikez3307]

rasputinsloved1 man i have quit for like two months, and i had one... now im slowly getting back into it... but im struggling/// tobacco addiction is the wors! been trying to quit for two eyars now..

[@Beth_Tyranny]

Mike Z It's not the tobacco. I'm pretty sure it's just the nicotine. But you're right, it's really hard to quit. I started vaping and that really helped.

[@Eyenagel]

Mike Z you must look up what nicotine is and how it's addictive, that's pretty much going to solve your problems... you're not addicted to smoking... you're addicted to having nicotine within your blood system once every 24 hours at least.

[@muaaadib]

lol "whos to blame for your son smoking?" as he smokes a cig

[@MrKillerDuckful]

+Nathan Jennings haha parents are only human we're all bull shitters

[@kujubenz]

Get out of your country once a while and see how people of other nations live their everyday lives. Whats shocking for you might be common for other nations.

[@benaiahusodo4574]

lol do u think they can even afford to travel

[@VearonTheOwl]

i was going to type what you typed.

[@sunscalvien3027]

yep

[@danv4299]

Thomas: "so why do you think your 9 year old is addicted to smoking?" Dad, as he's taking a puff of his cigarette: "idk cigarette ads...?"

[@harindudilipa1559]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jennyhateseverything]

LOL

[@AppulseGames]

Said the walking talking ad😂

[@jitholds]

Please watch at 5.24 father says son is smoking due to ads and he doesn't know he is the biggest ad for son

[@mitchellschwitzer4248]

this is the first thing i thought. i used to get yelled at by my father about smoking when i was 13, and then he'd go out for his usual every 30min cigarette. something aint right there

[@dakrai92]

+Vishwa Sri Lanka lol, that dad. i would smack his head on the spot

[@jennyc4153]

I can definitely see where you’re coming from. I think the parents don’t realize that they have an enormous influence on their children and especially at their age peer pressure and role models play a big role. I think because everyone around them is doing it, parents can’t seem to pinpoint where the influence is coming from, and so they try to blame other things.

[@jaydongoodrich4495]

He said a small part. Either way the whole situation is fuked.

[@romanengelbrecht6717]

parents do realise it they idiots if they dont its like swearing in front of your kid. you dont do it cuz theyll pick up on it and think its okay

[@rodionromanovich449]

When they wrapped him in tinfoil I lost it lol

[@jessicacole8404]

*they should have made him a hat*

[@lusio2515]

HahahahahHaha

[@lesegomvundla5884]

Hahahaha

[@wiper3704]

Rodion Romanovich chipotle

[@diananeeley865658]

It looked like they were gonna cook him! Lol

[@roxannerodriguez7075]

Wow... Now I see why so many people say they miss "the old Vice"... This was much different, and I like it!!

[@troylee4196]

It's wild how Vice fell off Was such a great source

[@TheRealTorG]

the most tired, cookie-cutter comment ever. Sorry-not-sorry that their new content triggers you.

[@flamoongo5789]

Vice before George Soros $$$

[@TheRealTorG]

@@flamoongo5789 soros donates to conservatives too

[@alexb3831]

@@troylee4196 tbh vice news is a lil shady but it seems like what they talk about is mostly true

[@MultiSciGeek]

Treat smoking related illness with smoking! These people are genius!

[@ftffighter]

+MultiSciGeek If you aren't afraid, the body will heal itself

[@malvoliomaximillian2001]

I mean you cant get sick if you die

[@TrollinFromFlask]

@@malvoliomaximillian2001 that's deep...

[@wisely231]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robox9225]

like metal cut metal same way smoking related diseases can be cure by more smoking these is what the doctor want to say lol i wonder how she got the degree

[@robyronin]

Poor Thomas. He always gets assignments that are mostly fucked up :D

[@renzoyo7037]

***** yeah he's looking like shit too because of it too lol poor bloke!! fucking horrid tobacco treatment!!!!

[@greghere7861]

***** Can You Send Me A Link For Your Picture xD

[@circle8930]

Holy fuck they made his pants go fucking down OH SHIT HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHIT!

[@Purpill]

***** lol yeah he got bad this time haha

[@ACoupleOfNinjas]

***** Five years later he will have full body cancer from that shit

[@DonnDenisse]

I started doing drugs since my teenage. Got addicted to heroin for years 23 years. Heroin addiction actually destroyed my life. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

[@ErnestoHorner88]

Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Germany. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.

[@Caroljoyce-mp8sk]

Hey! Yes Dr.alishrooms.

[@MichaelDavidson-qi7ts]

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

[@DebanckKim-rd6to]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@Maxtreon.]

Saw this same comment somewhere else

[@4290amp]

Pass cigarette to patient, "Thank you doctor."

[@pamelachristian2598]

😀😂

[@Asian3beastmon]

I think smoking in Indonesia is becoming a very big problem now because people in Indonesia are starting to use cigarettes to cure sickness. I personally think this is unacceptable because not only is cigarettes bad for your body, it's also bad for the environment as it can cause pollution and a lot of other stuff.

[@slice-o-life]

Wait can it really cure cancer???

[@mentiquebakabila4254]

Just like in America before prohibition

[@darkbrother339]

@@slice-o-life Of course not. The only thing thats natural about cigarettes is the miniscule amount of tobacco. But that is off set by the hundreds of other chemicals they mix in with the filters used. People using it to cure cancer are deeply programmed for failure by their government.

[@090erick]

Hahaha Thomas' assignments always start with: "Hi it's Thomas I'm in [extremely foreign place] and I'm [doing some fucked up action]" hahaha i love how he always gets the weird ones.

[@nabiladara385]

people say rude things about his upbringings but i find him just cute and those weird places suits him in a way

[@Dimino519]

OMG at 12:08 when he says "thank you doctor" for putting the cig in his mouth I seriously laughed so hard I cried. Wow. Just, wow.

[@jorgechackon]

Same here haha sardonic as hell

[@paralyzedlife8763]

​@@jorgechackon yep still the same case today

[@Mike9d]

She’s like”You’re welcome “ 😂

[@Kermitpan]

I am glad to see that it worked out for Matt, seeing him smile like that in the end! His mother must of been so happy. My heart goes out to everyone who is currently dealing with addiction

[@bebestringer5456]

I am soo extremely happy for Matt!! & proud that someone cared enough about others to help them kick their addiction. Many blessing onto them all.

[@TheCollapse410]

Ummm he relapsed shortly after filming. Because quoting dope (like I did) with no struggle makes it pointless. Why worry about getting hooked again if u got a pill that stops it from sucking. Put the work in. U got hooked from seeking short gratification and can't get out with that same mindset.

[@ramajyello]

@@TheCollapse410 no he didn't

[@LiLLaLa707]

"Rifki's picking up morning pack of cigarettes than off to school" Thomas' commentary is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@jlostepbystep1908]

im Indonesian.. hate tobbaco now.. my dad dies of skin cancer because he smoking 3 packs a day.. sory my bad english

[@Hugulubugulu]

JC SlimR15 salam,may he rest in peace...its a good thing my family are not smokers including me,cus we are against smoking

[@jonross377]

Sorry about your dad. I hope I can quit soon, somehow, someway. I really wish they would completely ban them here in the US

[@mishai3326]

Every country has a dark side you no need to feel ashamed about it. Be greatful atleast you are born as a normal human being.

[@nobodyburgen4594]

RIP

[@nobodyburgen4594]

@@jonross377Doesn’t really work with addictive substances. People still take marijuana and cocaine, people still gamble, people still drank during prohibition. I hate smoking, but I don’t want it banned.

[@gauravkain9865]

As an Indian, I remember, my father thrashed me real hard when he found me smoking. I am grateful to him and to my wife. She motivated me to quit smoking. At the age of 40, I feel more active by remaining smoke free. .

[@BenAnderson-mg4hu]

started smoking since my teenage. Got addicted to cocaine. Also suffered severe depression and mental illness. It's just amazing how psilocybin mushrooms treatment actually saved my life. 3 years clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms 0:03

[@HummersCatherina]

Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episodeenough to start working on my mental health

[@jack-vw4mu]

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate itMany people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Uk. Really need

[@StacyBridwell-ez2tu]

​@@jack-vw4mudr.johnsonshroom is the Best shrooms and psychedelics guy I know. 0:04

[@ConfusedAlbatross-kw9km]

Psychedelics made me quit a lot of bad habits and gave me a more positive outlook on life and the appreciation for other people 0:04

[@Anna-yk2pv]

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta.? 0:14

[@iadmire1991]

as a heroin user who has been through treatment, WHY THE FUCK ISNT THIS LEGAL. His transformation took 10 fucking days. At the rehab i went to, you didnt not see people experience emotion again for atleast a month and he had it back in one day????? this country is fucked up. people are dieing and suffering when they could just go through a 10 day treatment like this?? addiction would not be a big deal anymore if this was legal....

[@BasisForToday]

Prob for the same reason the US army cultivates heroin in Afghanistan: $$$

[@MrLesWhite]

Too much $$ for drugs trade and too little money for pharma to use it... they are prob looking for a way to dilute it so you have to keep taking doses to stay clean.. like many have said 'there is no more in the cure'

[@MrNeurodrive]

just some weed you dumb fucks

[@danzifer]

Because the world has to kill itself one way or another. You can't win em' all

[@camjones3723]

or, you could just say no to drugs instead of being a waste of life.

[@StarLove00]

What type of stress does the average 9 year old have? And his skin looked worse after the "treatment" then before.

[@PM-eh1gv]

More like these kids are starving. Instead of providing food. They make cigarettes accessible. Big Tobacco and big pharma will stop at nothing to fill their pockets.

[@killaboi9062]

Props to VICE for showing how REAL withdrawals looks like.

[@deathmetalmama1554]

I went to this clinic. Jeff is an amazing clinician and his treatment is a once in a lifetime experience. thanks to him I am clean and able to have a life today that I am proud of.

[@drooooop]

That’s awesome!

[@evientually]

Bad ass. I've been on methadone for over a decade, after nearly 20 years as an addict & most of that an IV user. I've looked into ibogaine, and if I ever move towards getting off methadone I will try it. I'm in a good place right now, but even on the most advanced levels of liberty I can't travel like I want to while on the restrictions that methadone treatment demands. But it works for me right now, and i am living well. Ibogaine has always seemed like a truly incredible experience though. I'm so glad to hear a story like yours. It makes me cry with joy to see people doing well, I'm so deeply happy when someone moves through addiction into a better place for themselves. Have you seen any of the things they're doing with addiction & brain surgery at the University of West Virginia? Incredible. I just bawled learning about that, it looks like it will offer similar stellar success rates to ibogaine. The more routes away from addiction, the more people can find their way.

[@AJDEFIXION]

so this is probably the reason why indonesia barely have high level athletes

[@drBulky]

Exactly

[@patrichewill5403]

Lmfao

[@ispartacus1337]

Funny how top athletes back in the day used to smoke cigarettes regularly lol isn't it obvious that it makes physical activity much harder? I've been a smoker for 12 years now. Started juuling and vaping about 4 months ago and I notice a tremendous difference in my breathing and pretty much every aspect of my life is better since I quit. looks, smell, energy level, appetite, endurance, have all improved significantly! As obvious as this is to us now when you have society even doctors telling you cigarettes aren't bad for you then everyone believes it. Just goes to show how far back tobacco companies corruption go.

[@irfanandrian5005]

AJDEFIXION of course not, badminton athletes from Indonesia always win in almost every world tournament. But football is more popular, and the football organization is corrupt, you can see U-13 football team from Indonesia often win the international championship but above them are loser because they’re corrupt. So cigarettes doesn’t have correlation with sport achievement

[@r3zaful]

@@irfanandrian5005 we still getting wrecked by China most of the time during our prime, even with lim swie king, I just glad that Lin Dan is going to retire sooner, he is pure obstacles to our players, a real game changing because the mental pressure from having a match with him is undeniably frustrating. China is quite weak currently, better start polish our newer talents before they overlap us again.

[@nyantpag7391]

2014: tobacco on decline 2019: hold my juul

[@tekyuno7822]

2024: hold my Dragon fruit lemonade 5000 puffs 5% nic

[@jackthomas3936]

@@tekyuno78225% is crazyyyy in my country 2% is the most you can have (uk)

[@CAsnowman]

Sooo happy for Matt. I turn 18 soon and am saving for the ibogaine treatment myself after 5 years of heroin and currently suboxone.

[@sosababy1970]

I recently turned 18 and have been addicted to heroin for years, i really am thinking about trying ibogaine. Did you ever end up taking it?

[@CAsnowman]

@@sosababy1970 I didn’t. I’ve been on suboxone for years got me away from the harmful lifestyle and stuff but still struggle getting off of that and with withdrawals myself. I’m very low dose and almost there now but I hope you stay strong man I was addicted young too I’ll pray for you. Never had the money to go out of country for ibogaine or I would have

[@CAsnowman]

@CIA.FBI.DHS.gov.org.com. yeah, the only thing that worked is Jesus Christ bro. Free from suboxone and marijuana after 10+ years of hell on earth.

[@CAsnowman]

@@sosababy1970 give your life to Jesus, only He can break the chains. I promise. Ibogaine isn’t going to cut it.

[@dewzahundred]

It feels so good to see people with good wills helping other people. That is hope, man.

[@delassim98]

i think he not doing that for free. nothing its free. every ego needs a food. beutifull or not its same fucking ego.

[@MrModicum]

delas sim ofc not. But that is not the point. He still wants to help people.

[@mothballxvi]

Their medicine: *removes free radicals* Soviet Union: 👀

[@mathew633man]

i've quit smoking for a week now. i feel stronger and healthier already both mentally and physically. mentally, i don't have to rely on that little cigarette to make me feel better. physically, i just feel more energetic and i have more appetite. i sleep better and my personality is more positive now. it feels like i'm a completely new person! sometimes i want to smoke but i just stop thinking about it and the craving is gone. it's all in your mind. i really think cigarette should be banned especially for smokers because most smokers want to quit but they can't. it's the most evil product there is.

[@mathew633man]

oh and i save more money now too. quitting smoking is probably the best decision of my life. i'm gonna quit drinking alcohol, coffee, and soda too because these things make me want to smoke again and they are not very good for my health.

[@H8edsinclair]

You might actually developed a slight cough and start to feel lousy but that your body getting all the contaminants out when I quit smoking it felt great for about a week and I had an itchy cough for like 2 months after that was gone I felt amazing been 2&a half years since I've had a cigarette good luck mate

[@rinky_dinky]

coming to my 3rd year clean bro, keep it up.

[@pranavvaidya8577]

The

[@PinoyKabogable]

Me too I quit smoking for more than a week now. And I am experiencing the effects of nicotine withdrawal, last day I have diarrhea and now I feel light headed and I'm having trouble in sleeping.

[@makukawakami]

I tasted my first cigarette when I was 7. I lived in the Philippines and I think the portrayal of smoking as a "masculine " thing is the cause of cigarette addiction. My habit took off when I was 13. I wish I didn't started at all

[@ggboytt5020]

@@roorookangaroo8213 definitely not this capt, as Indonesian I don't even know where the fck smoking cure cancer come from, it's all about "if I got cancer then so be it" attitude that's why smoker are everywhere here

[@Tyler_S3]

I was so happy to see that Matt was still clean 14 months later that I screamed and punched the air. I'm so glad it worked out for him!

[@Smokey94462]

I'm addicted to sandwiches. I can't help myself... so delicious and tender.

[@CaptainMcSmoky]

You fucker! Give that BLT back right now!

[@swanbylander5144]

You Bounder! Give me back my PBJ! D:

[@Music4EverKanekavi]

Lil Sandwich I gotta make a sandwich now

[@MrSaibot420]

well now ima go outside and smoke a cigarette.

[@MrSaibot420]

and shoot up heroin. thanks Vice.

[@TheMaxundmoritz]

Try smoking herring. I tried it and then ate it and felt good. Damned good.

[@bangkitadisatrio6019]

I'm indonesian and i'm feeling weird about that thinfoil theraphy

[@agungkurniawan5880]

Yeeahh me to, in fact this is the first time i heard such things. There's no such thing as curing your cancer with something that gets you cancer in the first place, so ridicoulous

[@ads2711]

iya sama bro

[@dibo458]

Wtfff malu maluinn

[@menroflkuk]

''Why do you think Rifki smokes?'' *Smokes a cig* ''It's cause of the damn corporations!'' Hypocrit ftw

[@voEovove]

I loled so hard when I saw the father smoking xD In my opinion, the thing that attracts kids to cigarettes, is that they see adults who smoke. For them, smoking seems like a grown up thing to do. When I was a kid, I saw everyone around me smoke and I made a promise to myself to never start. I'm the only one in my family who doesn't smoke cigarettes (._.)

[@menroflkuk]

ಠ_ృ Not too late to start :D

[@t00short]

I lost it when he said that 😂🤣 I come from a house of 9 people. All smokers except me. All of my siblings smoked from a young age because my parents not only did but left them laying around when they were passed out. I tried to smoke a cigarette too at around 11 or 12 and didn't like it, but I remember seeing my brother grab one out of the ash tray at around 5.

[@Del-Canada]

Does crack have vitamins and minerals in it?

[@Del-Canada]

***** Okay, thanks.

[@marccreter9348]

Part of a balanced breakfast.

[@chrissingh8279]

Breakfast of champions

[@princesstaito8966]

Only one way to find out buddy? You should try it?

[@PerkAngle123]

CAPS-LOCK p yeah just look at his profile pic. CRACK HAS TO BE GOOD!

[@sayedabdullah95]

Relieves stress...? From What Homeworkd.?

[@Knifymoloko]

That transformation via Ibogaine was truly uplifting. I see addiction on a regular basis here in the household. Thank you so much for covering this story. I am inspired to inform of this treatment.

[@anastasiaye4064]

Indonesian here and despite the release date of this video being in 2014, cigarette use has actually been restricted for some years now. Pictures of cancerous lungs, destroyed teeth etc has been on the packs for a few years. Smoking bans in most office buildings, schools and malls. Buying cigs at the mall or at supermarkets are also restricted to those over 18. The problem is the "warung", the small stalls people set up (like the one in this video where the kid bought his cigarette from), supermarkets in rural or low ses neighbourhoods that disregard the ban and keep on selling the stuff to the underage kids. The irony is that most of those from lower ses are the ones who spend the most on cigarettes, despite having less income and health care support. It's gotten so bad that it's really just pointless to try.

[@shanestep8685]

this is not true. was just in indonesia last year, there is no wide-scale anti-smoking images on cig packs. only this small little blerb at the bottom in bahasa that says smoking can cause cancer. anastasia, i dont think u know what restriction is. someone who wants to smoke is going to buy cigarettes at a warung. if it was restricted, then kids wouldn't be able to buy cigarettes, period. there would be a high penalty for warung owners if caught selling cigs to minors. for example, losing their business. thats how it is in countries where cigs are truly restricted.

[@anastasiaye4064]

Well Shane, too bad, but I have been living in Indonesia all my life and yes, cigarette packs have recently been plastered with images of cancerous lungs and rotting teeth to discourage smoking. In fact, I just went to a supermarket this morning and it doesn't take a genius to realise that all the cartons (placed behind the counter) were plastered with similar pictures. You don't seem to realise the way stuff works. The warungs are NOT legal. They don't have legal permits allowing them to sell their goods. This is the reason why they don't follow the law. However, warungs are culturally part of local cultures and therefore trying to limit them would bring public outrage, like how people went ballistic when the Jakarta government evicted the people who lived illegally near the rivers, occupying government lands. They hide behind the fact that people perceive warung owners as less economically able and therefore are supposed to be given more leeway. It's ridiculous really. This is why warungs are usually illegal without proper permits. However if you go to proper places with permits like at the mall or regular supermarket chains, they do follow the law. You won't get to buy packs of cigarettes or any alcoholic beverages if you're underage. And yes, the government actually does punish places that sell sell alcoholic beverages or cigarettes to minors. Places where you can't smoke, regulations on smoking advertisements, etc, are covered on the 109th presidential regulation from 2012.

[@feruqx]

Shane Steponas you should go to indonesia shane.... like now... then confirm it yourself... what you are talking about is like a few years back...

[@shanestep8685]

you guys are right. I'm sorry, let's never fight again. Friends?

[@mrdarky3377]

Annisa Saleh Education what separates it. Generally in any country, suburbans and rural area are the most left behind compared to the others. Now it seems smoking became one of just fine thing to do in the 'kampung' culture. Changing that will take years and add up with the burning house claims by the residents, it may take a decade or two if the government doesn't take any literally harsh actions.

[@soralink411]

when the end showed that matt was still clean after 14 months I was pretty happy

[@amisfitpuivk]

It's not even the physical withdrawal of heroin that's the scary part, it's exactly what that guy said: suddenly you feel all your emotions for the first time again, and they weren't good to begin with which is why you got high. The depression from not getting your high is horrible. Everything finds balance. The higher your highs, the lower that low will be.

[@broketostoke]

This is by far THE MOST intense episode I've seen of vice in a while... Can we get back to this?

[@CheezyDewitt]

@ 12:10 I laugh until I about fell down. She lights the smoke and puts it in his mouth and he says "thank you doctor". I love these Vice Documentaries.

[@alexanderdevin4167]

Weed is the only thing you should be smoking

[@TheMaxundmoritz]

One should cook with hashish. Your stomach is designed to handle chemicals and if you are eating or drinking it the police will not catch on.

[@TheMaxundmoritz]

Pot is not habit forming. People who are bipolar use it and think they are habituated is another story. The high of weed is differant than being drunk.Being drunk means you do not have commonsense and often can not remmember what happened. If really high somebody will get into the driver's seat and decide not to drive because they are high. I once legally ate some hash cake and was very wasted. I could not walk unless holding onto something. I would not have been able to get into a car. I retained commonsense and remembered everything. Alcohol brings out negative things like agression. THC makes you notice things.

[@TheMaxundmoritz]

Somethings will quickly end being wasted on pot. Girl(cocaine) and a suddenly fright like riding on a horse and having a saddle break a strap will do it. One could go to a major cannabis event and be high as hell. The host would give you something to put up your nose and you could soberly drive home. Science could but has not come up with a sober up pill. Instead we have a massive industry punishing people for a medical condition. It does not work.

[@andrewforsyth1915]

I love your video

[@TheMaxundmoritz]

I like to smoke herring and then eat it. Makes me feel damn good. I understand there is a herring epidemic and the police will stop your car and look for it.

[@kawythowy867]

Feel so bad from Heroin Addicts. Some didn’t ask for it. And even if they didn’t there was a problem to begin with. God bless you and give you the power to get off this poison.

[@maurigr]

That doctor soebagjo is a genius...

[@NAVI-dw7xe]

I love how they put the Doctor's theory right next to the people's actually stating it, cementing it. awesome editing there. 14:00

[@embe1]

Kudos to Vice-this is amazing journalism. Enlightening and different from the usual. Just gripping stuff start to finish.

[@wizzzer1337]

fuck it, we don't deserve this planet...

[@guitarded927]

You are SO right!

[@Kelly-oz6ku]

+wizzzer1337 Human beings don't deserve anything, we are so despicable, it's a shame.

[@guitarded927]

Everybody! You, me, all of us man. But its okay, be content :)

[@Kajex96]

I'm moving there and selling deep fried foods that cure diabetes and make you lose weight and get healthy

[@Bladeofwar94]

This is why our government should research heavily into a drug before banning it. Marijuana is the prime example of banning what you don't understand.

[@CHAOS-lp9ob]

looks like Indonesia's national food is ciggerete

[@Litepaw]

I quit smoking 3 years ago. Still using nicotine, but i've never made a better choice than quitting the active smoking. I can breathe, i can smell, I'm not coughing up weird slime all the time and i don't get winded from walking up 1 flight of stairs.

[@asafieryfist]

I thought my family is a standard Indonesian family where we are very against smoking. I'm so saddened by this. Sorry to say, but I definitely blame the parents for enabling their kids.

[@Pakicetus_]

The second part was amazing!

[@Mrs_Dale]

seeing young children, a mere baby smoking that really freaked me out I believed for a person to stay clean from any drugs .. go figure .. self discipline is the main key ..

[@maryledenican7760]

I agree very much about self discipline , but in this case it's a little different with these very young children being influenced to smoke, how much discipline can a young child really have? it's sad....

[@ritos1153]

i'm 15 and live in indonesia and all of my guy friend can smoke like 2 or 3 box of ciggarates a day. They start smoking literally from junior high school. I think they see smoking as lifestyle, that's why they do it nonstop

[@DoritoWorldOrder]

"And see what happens... in a country where they refuse to regulate tobacco." There are many countries that don't regulate tobacco, not all of them have children smoking and smoking being prescribed for cancer.

[@abw48]

The first, and not the last, person I knew who died of smack was in Aug 1969, Folkestone England, he was 18, I was 21, his name was Tony Harrington and he was what is called today A Drugstore Cowboy, a few died after that. Smack is evil, I know, I snorted enough of it though I mixed it with Cocaine, speedball, but that was way back when when we, Baby Boomers, thought that we would just go on an on. Ive been clean and sober since 1982, I sometimes wonder just who i was back then. Youth is wasted on the young.

[@jlwaddey9579]

my buddy did time with the man who wrote the book Drugstore Cowboy. its a crazy life and you are lucky to be alive, AND able to look back, with wisdom, and comment on it. cheers, m8 and thanks...

[@abw48]

JL Waddey for years i kinda sorta thought like the only survivor of a plane crash, no more,but im still in awe of why i made it through and not so for many others.

[@youngz13o]

That doctor looks sick as hell

[@111axa1]

What happened to Nicole?

[@pawankhadka9549]

This channel is the most daring youtube channel with the most daring journalists in the world . But sadly it has so little subscribers then it really deserves. But i love this channel. It shows the things which no other youtube channel or the journalists has the guts to do.

[@controllayt1046]

Ikr

[@ods1ODS]

22:42 "...even problematic drug use is a quest for a deeper meaning." This guy knows what hes talking about. In many cases that's so true. And as for the ritual of being an addict, its also so true. I remember being dope sick and when it was on and the prospects of actually getting dope were looking good, many of the wd feelings go away and the panic starts to subside. When its in your hand, your right there, almost well again. It sounds sick and I really wouldn't want to paint it in a positive light, but its true.

[@Mashy8722]

I know EXACTLY what you mean. Been there myself. As soon as you know you'll have the drugs soon, the symptoms kind of let up. lol. that's because its a mental addiction too. that's all in your head. We created that anxiety, that need internally as well as our body creating it. I've told people a hundred times, I don't wish dope withdraw on ANYONE. That shit is painful and unnerving. It blows. Thank god for being clean lol

[@ods1ODS]

Ashley Lynn It was all such a..................................I don't know, such a weird way of life. Most people could never understand what it would be like to experience the highest of highs and the lowest of lows so many times in such close proximity to each other. Over and over, every day. Misery----high-----misery-----high---misery-----a vicious cycle. So glad those days are gone.

[@HojoOSanagi]

This is another reason why I'm glad that I'm from Canada where we actually use ibogaine for withdrawal and aren't morons who make it a schedule I drug and get people just addicted to methadone.

[@subscriberswithoutanyvid-so1kr]

Stops chemotherapy Starts smoking by EAR .

[@divineomaladies6112]

Cancer: " surprised pikachu face*

[@pittsburgh4one242]

I wonder what Nicoles experience was since she was still using at the time. Did she stay clean also? I know the video wasn't based on her experience but i'm interested to see. Glad it helped him out and he stayed healthy and clean. Congrats to him, thats a big step forward. Hope he continues to do well.

[@sarahkirschner807]

I would love to see an update of this!

[@lanceparker4796]

Seeing kids smoking cigarettes is heart breaking .

[@imthedudeman7885]

Sorry. But I have to admit kids look pretty cool when they smoke.

[@chownful]

You are trolling, right?

[@imthedudeman7885]

What makes you say that? What looks cool and what is good for you are two different things.

[@MrCaseClayborn]

***** Only if they've got proper form, otherwise it's all awkward, like that girl that tried to smoke to be cool for the camera, couldn't even light her shit. Smoke now...

[@Bendejo6517]

***** tobbaco is trash just smoke weed

[@Kelly-oz6ku]

***** Lmfao 😂😂 Couldn't agree more with you on that one!

[@timothyzelasko]

I used methadone to get off opiates. I started off at 145 mg and work my way down to zero. 💪

[@youdontseeanoldmanhavinatw4904]

Is it bad that the chubby kid smoking is absolutely hilarious looking to me?

[@xXPuNkRoCkRulesXx]

It feels sooooo weird seeing a 6 year old smoke like an expert...

[@deltafunction0]

I love how the dad blames the cigarette companies for their ads, and then blames the government for not doing enough to stop his son from smoking, and he says it as he exhales smoke. YOU, the FATHER, are your son's most dominant influence in his life. He sees you smoking, you allow him to smoke, it's YOUR fault your son smokes. It isn't the government's fault you fool!

[@humanentity2214]

What an amazing heroin addiction recovery story, bravo vice for sharing 👍

[@dAMMDb]

Where did this "Doctor" get her title from, eBay?

[@JustFiddler]

i think from amazon

[@dav3fk]

Ibogaine not being legal is a crime against humanity. There is some objectionable material here, in terms of how they talk of ibogaine and the ceremonies, though I suppose that's to ease squares into it. The iboga experience is as though planned from before it started, with interwoven strands, themes, and plots, even without preparatory rituals. The rituals are doubtless developed to further focus the cohesion of the experience and it's integration with the time before it (and problems then) It's not just "freaky" or whatever, there's nothing remotely against logic or science, about any of it.

[@blackhelicopters]

Never heard of it. Sounds awesome!

[@Therealw1]

I imagine so. It seems strange that the things that the things put in nature that can help us better than any prescription medication are illegal. Maybe it's all a bunch of useless bureaucracy. Or maybe it's because various government agencies are in bed with drug producers and prison conglomerates.

[@Jaysann22]

I take opioids on and off throughout the year and if I run out of meds I get withdrawal but nothing as bad as these fellows. I NEVER had nausea to the point of vomiting. Just diarrhea.

[@nicholeellzey2189]

I love seeing heroin addicts kick the addiction, no matter how they have to do it!! I've been an opiate addict for over 25 yrs. I know the pain 1st hand, methadone has done wonders for me, but it would be wonderful to be dependent on Nothing...

[@chownful]

I don't believe ibogaine stops withdrawal completely. It's just that you do not notice the withdrawal symptoms because you are tripping balls and then have an afterglow for a few days after the trip. If you are on an opiate/opioid with a long half life, such as methadone or suboxone, then I believe you would encounter PAWS (post acute withdrawal symptoms). They also don't mention that the price for an ibogaine session, such as the one shown in this video, can easily cost $10-20k USD, straight cash since insurance doesn't cover anything. I just think too many people make it out to be an instant cure, meaning that they just do the ibogaine trip and then think their addiction is cured. Unfortunately addiction is not that easy =\

[@GeorgeCoggins]

iboga is amazing medicine and has far more potential than simply being used for addiction interruption therapy, also does wonders for auto-immune and neuro-degenerative disorders like nothing ive ever witnessed nor experienced prior

[@sarge74745]

5:22 priceless.

[@Tehaxis]

Is it wrong to laugh at those kids after the guy...? I mean seriously, it's a little funny right? Smoking like pros.

[@IvelisseTirado]

Wow, that's crazy. Addiction is definitely mental in my book. Love Vice!

[@Music4EverKanekavi]

Ivelisse Tirado the problem is drugs change your mental, and literally rewire you.

[@albox3153]

escape time true

[@jackiemaul]

I was an addict for over 20 decades but I'm done now

[@Zolacolor]

Very good! Loving these longer documentaries.

[@Mashy8722]

I dunno, I think that Indonesian hospital treating things that way are bullshit. She's just trying to make money by getting people addicted to cigarettes and exploiting those who are. that's ridiculous.

[@Aspergernater]

So-called "alternative medicine" is always bullshit. This cigarette clinic is a good example, albeit an extreme one, of why our governments need to stomp on them whenever those sorts of things crop up.

[@achmadhusein389]

I've saw my lil bro smoking when he was 9, and kicking him on forehead for a good. He said that he just tried to look like a gentle, i never understand why smoking could to be criteria of gentle.

[@properdukes9091]

The dad is blaming the sons addiction on ads and laws while smoking a cigarette himself. 🤔

[@tarabecker77]

Ikr lol 😭

[@saideepmadini2418]

my lungs hurt watching this video

[@Sok612]

"Drug is bad, mkay..." is what VICE is try to say.

[@TheJimmyplant]

ibogaine is a drug...

[@elkillerx]

Without a doubt, the Indonesian government is fully aware of the huge negative health consequences the tobacco industry is having on it's citizens. The problem is they've allowed the industry to flourish virtually unchecked for far to long. Now it's at the point where the tobacco companies have a huge upper hand against any regulation attempts from the Indonesian government. Now that they are sponsoring sporting events, concerts, schools and many other industries and are some of the biggest employers in the area.. Any strict regulations would end up making the Indonesian government being portrayed as the bad guys.. All of this is self-inflected.. It's going to be very hard to make big changes.

[@warrior1902xD]

Ibogaine is yet another proof that natural "drugs" like weed arent actually harmful its the human-made shit what we have to be afraid of... Really an inspiring story good job yet again vice :D

[@MegaJohn334]

Yea, like morphine, codeine, etc aren’t some of the naturally occurring alkaloids in the poppy plant

[@rdes-xj2wz]

fr. It's crazy how people compare the absolute cvs receipt of an ingredients list of cigarettes to the one ingredient in cannabis: cannabis.

[@jhulahula23rd48]

@@rdes-xj2wz well.. I mean technically tobacco a "natural drug" and contains many carcinogens before any of those extra "ingredients" are added to it. The "well its natural" argument doesnt really work for tobacco, or really anything to be honest. Plenty of deadly drugs grow from natural plants and tobacco is just a leaf

[@MeYou-gb7zy]

Opiates aren’t all man made. They’re derived from a poppy plant.

[@spavia23]

*Whose to blame for your son smoking* Everyone but himself

[@Roro17GMK]

This made……my lungs hurt watching all the smoking 😅

[@usernamechoosed8]

Cant believe they say "it gets rid of stress" this is why we are a third world country

[@mannyescuela3511]

Usernamechoosed8 it does tho

[@youngniggaz1049]

Thats true bro smoke can make you happy

[@TurdCurdle]

3 years without a stogie then this video triggered me.

[@khunthakur1749]

Whose here watching ...it in 2019

[@aponglkr6897]

11:50 My dude got wrapped like a human burrito 🌯

[@dealzjawalha2448]

Ketamine, or other NMDA antagonists, could probably be used in place of the ibogaine. DXM, also an NMDA antagonist, is pretty commonly used as a withdrawal aid by a lot of heroin addicts. DXM also slows tolerance development to opiates wayyy, down (we're talking about so much where you may only have to increase your opiate dose 5% in a year if you take it with DXM). Ibogaine is an NMDA antagonist in addition to a serotonin 5-ht2a agonist (like LSD). Imo, the NMDA antagonism does all of the work in stopping the withdrawals and the 5-ht2a agonism provides the spiritual "kick" to fully convince the person to stop using completely.

[@CLL21]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I take dxm sometimes so my tolerance for MMT doesn't get an higher.

[@KodakWhite5904]

How much DXM do you suggest to help ease withdrawls if going cold turkey off fetty?

[@ThePeacePlant]

Dxm saved my mental health

[@jose5776381]

before americans judge i live in america and at 8 years old was introduced to the world of selling cocaine by 15 was a full time crack dealer so whats the different they were kids that age smoking weed back in the day now you dont see it as much

[@ripppking]

Bad liar is bad

[@circle8930]

One would not hide there drug dealing for that is illegal and say there age and experience in a comment section

[@jose5776381]

Ree Wynn i was drug dealer who cares

[@mianasghir3898]

jose cruz

[@Antihero8800]

So basically the tobacco industry will never give up until we're all fucked.