This video was done to dispel the myth that red dot sights are for close range only - hits at distance can be achieved with proper fundamentals
@JamesDBlanc9 жыл бұрын
People forget that target shooters have been using iron sights at distance for decades with excellent results, it only makes sense they can do the same with red dots. Great shooting btw Larry!
@grif54479 жыл бұрын
James Blanc
@bryanmunson16859 жыл бұрын
I take my stock 4.5" XDM 45 out to 200 yards on a 24" gong for the non-believers. And I suck 😁
@kustomhooligans8 жыл бұрын
That was great shooting Larry. I just cant wrap my head around the concept that a target further out should be larger. People do not get smaller if they're closer to you or larger further away, they stay the same size. An average chest size, where vital organs are located is 10X12"-ish, I would think no target at any distance should be larger. Aim small, miss small. Nice shooting with a red dot though, no one cant argue with that! Guess those 50 year old eyes are still work in just fine!
@mrdark99166 жыл бұрын
Lol my Grandpa used to shoot 1,000 yds off-hand with open sight M1 Garands... Red dot sights are capable of longer shots as long as the SHOOTER is capable of it lol
@practicalthings29929 жыл бұрын
do some homework,,Mr. Vickers is the real deal. Larry Vickers of Vickers Tactical is a retired US Army 1st SFOD- Delta combat veteran with years of experience in the firearms industry as a combat marksmanship instructor and industry consultant. In recent years he has hosted tactical firearms related TV shows on the Sportsman Channel with the latest being TacTV of which Bravo Company is a presenting sponsor. Larry Vickers special operations background is one of the most unique in the industry today; he has been directly or indirectly involved in the some of the most significant special operations missions of the last quarter century. During Operation Just Cause he participated in Operation Acid Gambit - the rescue of Kurt Muse from Modelo Prison in Panama City, Panama. As a tactics and marksmanship instructor on active duty he helped train special operations personnel that later captured Saddam Hussein and eliminated his sons Uday and Qusay Hussein. In addition he was directly involved in the design and development of the HK416 for Tier One SOF use which was used by Naval Special Warfare personnel to kill Osama Bin Laden. Larry Vickers has developed various small arms accessories with the most notable being his signature sling manufactured by Blue Force Gear and Glock accessories made by Tangodown. In addition he has maintained strong relationships with premium companies within the tactical firearms industry such as Blue Force Gear, BCM, Aimpoint, Black Hills Ammunition, Wilson Combat, NET TAC, and Schmidt & Bender.
@Wassgood199 жыл бұрын
John Robles Total badass
@rg77833 жыл бұрын
Totally did not read this book of a comment. Any way, this dude is absolute co witnessing with iron sights!? Marines do that shit with irons to qualify at 500 yards, at least they used to, so what does the aim point have to do with it???
@GruntBurger5 жыл бұрын
When I was in the service, we went from irons to the m68. Didn't know it at the time, but because of my astigmatism my dot was a big red blob, and I was still hitting the 300 yard target every time. If you can't hit at distance with a red dot, the sight isn't the problem.
@seamorgh218 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Larry's enthusiasm.
@Slim7287 жыл бұрын
How big are these targets? It looks like he's shooting at a full size door lol
@4jai2brons0n10 жыл бұрын
I don't think LAV could've ever been a sniper. If he ever got a hit he'd jump out of his hide and scream "Fuck yeah baby that's what I'm talking about!"
@nbates98938 жыл бұрын
Haha I fucking love it when Larry gets hype. going to six dawg!
@rockspydre9 жыл бұрын
That was da** impressive. I've shot my rifle out to 400, but that was calm wind, albeit no spotter. I was only about 50% at most though, and not a first round hit. I wish I could read wind like the Gunsite instructor!! And then out to 600 with a 4 MOA?! I'm floored.
@redline8708 жыл бұрын
I love stumbling across these video gems by Larry Vickers. Absolutely awesome shooting. I wish I could do that with my 28 year old eyes! Very impressive!
@nbates98939 жыл бұрын
Haha larry cracks me up with his lingo. Going to 6 dawg! Hilarious man and it sets him apart from everybody that takes their shooting way to serious. Keep it up homeslice.
@SilverM310 жыл бұрын
I love it when Vic gets fired up. "Thats what I am talking about! Hell yeah!" Humors me every time!
@ValueofLiberty9 жыл бұрын
I'm curious what ammo they are using. A lot of credit to having a good spotter.
@arguywindham11015 жыл бұрын
The ammo definitely would have been something good to mention. Im sure its M855 though with LAVs SFOD background
@Suaga78 жыл бұрын
Going to 6, dog!
@largelarry2126 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice that Larry must have a Astigmatism in his left eye? You can see that he was using a fixed rear peep sight, this will help eliminate a blob you see instead of a dot. If you have an astigmatism this will make the dot look crisp and round. I caught you Larry!
@VickersTacticalLAV Жыл бұрын
You are correct!
@xurxinhoo10 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's a long shot! It's said 5.56 terminal performance is not great at those distances but I guess if 5.56 is what you have there is no excuse to avoid hitting the threat. Hit him in the eye and we'll see the effects.
@codydye9224 жыл бұрын
Got my Aimpoint and cant wait to sight in my DD with it!! thanks for ALL your videos with aimpoint 💪🇺🇸🇺🇸
@timothyrobinson959810 жыл бұрын
I'm digging the Larry and Walt show
@UrbanTiger7410 жыл бұрын
I've hit steel at 400 yards with my 545 krink and a micro red dot. My wife more than me. LOL!!! Good shootin LAV.
@Gman-10910 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff Lav, great shooting, great corrections/estimates called as well - what a blast to watch, this is my favorite kind of shooting as well. I shot service rifle competitions up here in Canada, most of which are decided at the 4 and 600 meter distances. No more fun than shooting rifles at this range, at least for me.
@scarecrow-mk1rp3 жыл бұрын
3:23 ya haha *YEEAAAAAAH!!!!!* LOL i love when larry goes extreme LAV mode!
@bryanmunson16859 жыл бұрын
Building my first AR, light, accurate and reliable. It will serve as HD for the wife until I build one for her with a suppressor. A TR1/2 is the way to go. Thanks brother!
@anthonylewis92563 жыл бұрын
Gotta love it when the LAV gets pumped up 😂😂 cleaned it dog ! Any haters before hating please take your AR out to 600 first
@raypollum83909 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Larry, thanks for posting this! Just purchased an Aimpoint T-2 2-MOA
@sackychin62673 жыл бұрын
“Am I good or what?” Hell yea Walt
@rossg47885 жыл бұрын
Still getting it done. Good stuff.
@rachelgarrison78439 жыл бұрын
Another great video, glad to see your still having fun Walt. Miss shooting with you.
@jwg2239 жыл бұрын
I have personally enjoyed my t2 and G33 combo for precision. I shoot similar groups at 100 with it as I did with a 10X Leupold.
@ayangeorge211410 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great shooting. Shows what can be accomplished with good fundamentals and decent sights. I imagine it helps to have such great spotter too. :^)
@WAgunfun10 жыл бұрын
"goin to 6 dog!!" lol hell yeah
@adammartinez31495 жыл бұрын
WAgunfun Larry getting thug life He about that life
@RayLahey6 жыл бұрын
Damn 4moa dot at that range is extremely impressive
@witkidone10 жыл бұрын
Im super curious Larry. What happened to you and Daniel Defense? Do you still believe in the quality of their rifles or what? You used to be such a proponent of DD around the time of their torture test vid and then just like that you were all about BCM and you never seemed to mention DD anymore. What changed your opinion or do you just love both companies products now?
@skyhop10 жыл бұрын
+grapeapevine 5.56 in a 16" barrel with M193 has a maximum effective range of 125 yards. Beyond that, fragmentation will not occur, thus wounding performance becomes miserable. M855 has an even shorter effective range. MK262 on the otherhand will still reach, but I'm not sure how far out I'd trust it. This is why you guys need to ditch the 16" barrels and get 18" or 20".
@jpenna197610 жыл бұрын
I was in a competin recenty and had to shoot reactive targets upto 270m. My Aimpoit comp m2 was awesome at 150m, but 270m started to be a bit challenging. Some fell from first, but some took 2-3 shots. 4 MOA is a tad too big for distance shooting... 12 ½" @ 300y.
@TheJeffNasty10 жыл бұрын
"Why does that bush keep celebrating?"
@rockspydre9 жыл бұрын
And my 400 was with a 2 MOA. Big respect to Mr. Vickers. I don't care if his irons were absolute co-witness. In fact, I think in my case at least, the irons would handicap me vs. the Aimpoint.
@tysonbear7 жыл бұрын
rockspydre 5:29 and 5:46
@rockspydre7 жыл бұрын
I get the 5:45 time. I think. I don't get the 5:29 directive. Unless it is the age. I'm 50, too, though. Although I think I was 49 when I was shooting at 400 yds that I mentioned. I do wear glasses.
@tysonbear7 жыл бұрын
rockspydre Walt says he doesn't believe Larry at 5:29. Walt gives a thumbs up for iron sights at 5:46.
@rockspydre7 жыл бұрын
That time I saw the thumbs up. Thanks for the explanation.
@jesustirado78458 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I went in the right direction and bought the 2moa, 4moa covers too much at that distance.
@joejoeseesingtons Жыл бұрын
I love Larry!
@madmartigan83052 жыл бұрын
That is Awesome!! Thank you Larry!!
@Mikey604810 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong Larry, but I have always shot Aimpoints focusing on the target and not the Dot. And I believe that is what AImpoint suggests to do as well.
@alexrex2010 жыл бұрын
"that's what i'm talkin about!" lol
@joslinnick7 жыл бұрын
This is why I decided to trade my 1-6x Strike Eagle for an Aimpoint. I realized that the magnification wasn't as useful as I thought it was.
@MRACGun10 жыл бұрын
All depends on the bullet itself. FMJ, soft point, hollow point. Typical 55gr fmj frags little to none. As i said it tumbles when hits. The tumbling does not affect accuracy at all bc it happens after impact. Tumbling is not done in the air of course.. As you said it hits and the c.o.m is behind the point at the front so physics causes it to tumble unless completely straight on and no imperfections when it hits (very unlikely). Larger bullets are less likely to tumble bc of how long they are
@WinkenSmile8 жыл бұрын
lmao... huge targets man...
@tysonbear7 жыл бұрын
5:29 "doesn't believe it" 6:22 "absooooolute" co-witness 5:46 iron sights = thumbs up
@LiamDCoughlan3 жыл бұрын
OUTSTANDING!
@cameronoquinn944 жыл бұрын
That man just doubled my maximum effective range on irons..... with a reflex sight. -Expert Marksman
@brentsaylor17255 жыл бұрын
“The LAV can still get it done”
@mrdark99166 жыл бұрын
Lol my Grandpa used to shoot 1,000 yds off-hand with open sight M1 Garands... Red dot sights are capable of longer shots as long as the SHOOTER is capable of it lol
@MrBm19682 жыл бұрын
Nice video, good to see the capebility of the Aimpoint. I have just mounted an Aimpoint Micro T2 sight on my Steel-Action hunting rifle in 338 win mag and it is surprisingly easy to accuire targets out to 200 meters and make a hit., it is how far I testet it on small target (12 )cm in diemeter - clay pigeon. I hunt mosse, deer and other smaler animals and use the Steel-Action for the bigger stuff so I thing I will practise a littel on this setup and maybe I will use Aimpoint next seasong :=) I am 54 yo and still I have realativly good eyes, no glasses :🤠
@jpenna197610 жыл бұрын
I believe that "effective" realy means instant effect. Human body is filled with organs and important blood vessels. Hole in most of them will eventually have an effect, will it be seconds or minutes... Also distance to enemy means different threat level. Wounded enemy usualy will take one or two others out from fight, due to first aid and evacuation. Not always, but usualy.
@janderson437410 жыл бұрын
As long as you know your hold overs, red dots work fine at distance. It's not precision, but you can definitely get combat accurate hits at distance. I never understood guys who say red dots only work to 200-300 yards...
@donh1572 Жыл бұрын
Red dots are so underrated….I don’t know why we don’t see more long range shooting with them….plus they own 50 yards and in
@alexrex2010 жыл бұрын
LV is such a bro. lol
@iAmNyC7188 жыл бұрын
Man LAV can shoot the wings off of a fly.....
@GamalielRios4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding.
@mickwrath442510 жыл бұрын
Good Kentucky windage right there guys. Nice shooting Larry. Lets get some real optics on there, up the caliber and bring her to a 1650 meters....I know you can do it.
@UniqueThaPoet9 жыл бұрын
It looks like you guys are in Northern New Mexico.
@Lapinmiez7 жыл бұрын
Impressive with 4 moa dot. But still you arent quite effective on a prone or even kneeling target at those ranges with a red dot. I was wondering what size these targets were? Anyways nice shooting and best regards from this finnish aimpoint user
@fabianalaniz78667 жыл бұрын
I have an eotech.. and I love it, I have not had any trouble with it. And all your videos have got me curious, there for I'd like to get an aimpoint. But is there any way you could torture an eotech to see its durability and how effective it would be like the aimpoint.. Thank you.
@MDeJo276035 жыл бұрын
Sure, ask everyone in the Army and Marine corps... who beat Eotechs up daily. Marine recon units.....
@petion20139 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that I've seen you shooting with your right hand. Are right handed or left handed, or maybe an ambidextrous shooter?
@Davidg3689 жыл бұрын
petion2013 He's right handed left eye dominant he shoot rifle left handed handguns right
@ChrisWhite.fishing4 жыл бұрын
This video was done to dispel the myth that Vickers is not a clown.
@BlueRidgeJP8 жыл бұрын
Simply Bad Ass!
@nytridr10 жыл бұрын
i use eotech for close quarters and an aimpoint t1 2moa for mid to long distance 556 shooting.
@Deschuttes3 жыл бұрын
The key to being able to hit targets: have a spotter with 30 years experience, kek
@17Glock10 жыл бұрын
Very good as always in your videos. Greetings from Germany
@dorianleclair73903 жыл бұрын
Damn i did not know larry was a sniper when in the teams. Lol
@usmc03phillyfire118 жыл бұрын
not very impressive considering size of target. Shit, at Parris Island they had this city boy from Philly going 10 for 10 every time at 500 yards with irons sights. Every Marine had to qual out to 500 yards with iron sights on BMOD targets which the black is much smaller than that steel. At that distance I would rather have irons for rear sight adjustment instead of a hold over. Federal 62 grain 556 has to be within 7 MOA at that distance, not positive at that number. Either way good shooting. I am a big fan I apprieciate the videos and I absorb the knowledge you like to pass on. I bought an aimpoint because the videos you make. Need to rezero, forgot about the paralax under 50 yards. Killed me on my action carbine shoot. I used my Co witness irons half the time. I was quick on ipsics but at 150 I had to a foot low hold. At 300 just bottom edged. Maybe you could do a segment on Aimpoint zeroing.
@seanl3256 жыл бұрын
2nd that one. I’m from NY and that 500 yard prone slow fire was my fav.
@jasonbrown5014 Жыл бұрын
Damn dude, you were in Delta Force.
@MRACGun10 жыл бұрын
xm139 doesnt typically frag all that much to begin with.. 5.56 is designed to tumble not open up
@calexander2308 жыл бұрын
What kind of ammo was Larry using? What weight, 223/556, etc
@davidkepics16445 жыл бұрын
Incase I need to possibly hit a refrigerator at 600 yards a aimpoint will work eventually. Lol
@atadbitnefarious13876 жыл бұрын
He said something wrong. When shooting long distance, you focus on the front sight post when shooting irons. This is true. But when shooting red dots, you can't focus on the dot. If you focus on the dot, it will blur out and become difficult to use. You have to focus on the target.
@geoffsmith769 жыл бұрын
I only watch Larry because he is a fellow lefty...
@Mexicannasa10 жыл бұрын
Is it still effective? Sorta. It will still poke a hole in someone at that range. A tiny .22 sized hole. So you really have to hit something important, like heart or head.
@massey-rn8mq8 жыл бұрын
Nice shooting!
@jsk8drummer5 жыл бұрын
These targets are kind of big though? Shooting a 20 moa target doesnt really prove anything special. In a real combat scenario the bad guys are in most cases going to be behind some sort of cover and the chances of getting a full body to shoot at are slim. And then you need time to position your dot for proper hold off and hold over, something that will be much slower compared to using a scope with a proper reticle. It's cool to do for fun but I still dont see a red dot being viable past 200 yards in any real world scenario. Not to mention even at 50 yards target identification can become difficult without magnification. Unless they start shooting at you first, you wouldn't be able to see them well enough to determine who they are and if they are a threat.
@ae74544 жыл бұрын
IS this guy a eagle scout instructor ?
@DonnyB10 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@geraldwest34289 жыл бұрын
We qualified at 500 with iron sights, however, good to know you can do the same with glass? Thanks, anyway gentlemen!
@robertyates52058 жыл бұрын
Which scope was the spotter using?
@carhauler1008 жыл бұрын
Larry wears big pants big I tell you
@VandyMan84LA10 жыл бұрын
I've taken my H-1 to 600 yards (not consistently) with my Daniel Defense mid-length 16".
@111mrhead8 жыл бұрын
So is that like a laser dot?
@blazkowicz94556 жыл бұрын
Very impressive
@Panda74gofaster6 жыл бұрын
I am going to retire soon. How can I get my resume to you...
@jpenna197610 жыл бұрын
Don't mean to be a dick, but when you do something for a living, it's where the money comes from. There is nothing wrong with it, as long as products are good. DD and BCM are both quality guns.
@beakie747 жыл бұрын
Great shooting but it's actually only a demonstration of how to hold over not how good aimpoint is at long ranges .
@JUKEBOXX199010 жыл бұрын
Shot out to 400 the other day with my Aimpoint, and I swear I made a hit at 500 but no spotter.
@556blackwater10 жыл бұрын
10 yard penalty for unsportsmanship like celebration. Thankfully it fell just short of the chikken dance.
@superbarnie8 жыл бұрын
I thought they were gonna shoot the targets..instead they shot the signs lol.
@mustysmells8178 жыл бұрын
+superbarnie at 400 yards those large signs are smaller than the size of that red dot
@superbarnie8 жыл бұрын
+Musty Smells Hmm, let see. Aimpoint has a 2MOA dot. 2 moa would be 2 inches at 100 yards, so roughly 8 inches at 400 yards. He doesn't say, but those targets look to be about a foot wide or more. So nah, I don't think so.
@mustysmells8178 жыл бұрын
Do you even know what an MOA is? it doesn't make targets bigger when you aim down sight, it's simply to compensate bullet factors. Do you know why people use ACOGs and Scopes? It's to make objects larger at long distances. i don't think you knew that objects become smaller to the eye the farther they are.
@superbarnie8 жыл бұрын
+Musty Smells Uh, is English not your native language? It seems like you have trouble understanding what I'm saying. Do YOU even understand what an MOA is? An MOA is angle measurement. 1 MOA = 1/60 degrees. 2 MOA = 2/60 degrees. So if you do the trigonometry here, we can calculate the width a 2MOA dot will cover at 400 yards. 400tan(2/60) = 0.2327 yards 1 yard = 36 inches 0.2327 * 36 = 8.37 inches. So, the 2MOA dot covers 8.37 inches at 400 yards. And those signs on the video look to be atleast a foot wide or so, certainly more than 8.37 inches. Understand? Here's a diagram i drew for you if you still don't understand. i.imgur.com/VjV29IA.png Now go back to your Chinese cartoons, kiddo.
@superbarnie8 жыл бұрын
+Musty Smells At what point did I say that? You really need to learn to read. All I said was that at 400 yards those large signs are NOT smaller than the size of that red dot, contrary to what you said in your first comment.
@jesustirado78458 жыл бұрын
Aimpoint makes alot of micros, which one is this?
@rswimmer018 жыл бұрын
That's a TR1 with 4 MOA dot. They also make the same with other dots (I use a 2 MOA)
@PhilWitDa_452 жыл бұрын
Past 350...just grab the 308
@philippefrater20005 жыл бұрын
Am i good or what? Yes Sir! You are! 😎🇫🇷😇
@sneaton110 жыл бұрын
556 sounded so weak at 500+
@YzBlue7779 жыл бұрын
Going to 6 DOGGG
@jakedubois7358 жыл бұрын
What Aimpoint is this?
@qk-tb2df8 жыл бұрын
t-1 4 moa (the t-2 2 moa is better)
@MRACGun10 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah thought we were. Science solves everything... sorta. You thought that i thought that what i thought was something not what you were thinking ;)
@4jai2brons0n10 жыл бұрын
Hahaha exactly.
@JUKEBOXX199010 жыл бұрын
Shot out to 400 the other day with my Aimpoint, and I swear I made a hit at 500 but no spotter.