Victorinox but on STEROIDS? New best multitool Knife in M390 STEEL

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We have all owned a victorinox. For us it's a childhood knife. A knife that got us into knives.
But we all also know edge retention is not that great..... MKM changed all of that! They made a multitool in M390 steel! so... is it a good EDC? Find out in todays episode!
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[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Please consider visiting Lames de Langres! You'll get to see unique hand made knives from France. Not just knives... they are little pieces of art / jewelery. Their site is not yet online but check back once in a while :)

[@ramonade_knives]

I live 1h from Langres, I'd be happy to meet anyone there !

[@yurasmolii7018]

Thx guys for supporting us🇺🇦, I am your fan from Ukraine, keep doing such insane content!

[@Kleiner_Lutz]

To split wood with such a small folder you should carve wedges and use those. Felix Immler shows that on his channel 😉

[@klausheisler5014]

Personally no saw makes it a no go for me, saw is essential for a Victorinox/multi tool. The extra edge retention of the blade doesn't mean 💩 to me. Victorinox farmer in alox is perfection for "bushcraft" the saw makes notching extremely easy, saw to the exact depth & then clear the material with the blade. Or pair the farmer with a larger blade & there's nothing you can't do.

[@thorin693]

Dean Winchester It doesn't have to be a large knife my farmer alox with the esee xancudo in s35vn is a great compact combo.

Spot on. I'd love a M390 blade on my Victorinox SAKs, but if that mean I loose the saw, the deal is off. Titan on the scales are cold as "swear word" in the winter and nothing I'd like though.

[@liamboland8158]

I use the boker tech tool 4 for this reason 👍🏻

[@imapishard]

and the Victorinox saw overperforms. i've even used it for small drywall jobs running cable between rooms. i need to be going pretty minimal to ditch the saw.

[@andrewartress9251]

Also, the saw is great for scraping a ferro rod.

[@milesrobertson6882]

The laugh of a best friend watching his friend make a mistake like stepping in a deep puddle and soaking his shoe is one of the greatest sounds on the planet. You both possess laughter that is music to my ears.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

hahah thank you so much

[@rninggl6122]

Now you have the sharpness meter, you should test how the sharpness changes after rope cutting, that would be interesting to compare steels

[@ryancoke9]

Honestly I’ve never had any of my victorinox blades go dull in a day let alone after a few days of solid work 🤷‍♂️

[@thymii6946]

exactly! haven't needed to touch up mine in months despite the odd jobs and still shaves. in day to day life you actually won't use a knife all the time, so this M390 snobbery is way over my head.

[@barbar7746]

Me neither..maybe if you cut cardboard non-stop for 1 day it will be dull..but then you need less than 1 minute to make it sharp again.

[@thymii6946]

@@barbar7746 and then again a thin enough blade will keep ripping through after dulling even. But safety becomes another issue. Cardboard slicing is not a good sharpness test for anything with less than 3mm thick spine and not scandiground.

[@shadeshiest22]

What I do is I only use the small blade for everything(98% of the time its enough, unless I REALLY need to use the large) and then I know I ALWAYS have the large blade in near perfect fresh sharpened shape for use in a “real” woods or must have sharp situation…. If I carry a Case stockman(or the like) I use the small blade for everything, Spey blade for skin/scalpel(low angle high polished edge) use only, and save the large main blade for must use/need situations(fruit/food/wood) only… I find I get a lot more longer use out of ALL the blades on my pocket knife that way, and the small blade sharpens back so fast/don’t need to sharpen them all as often!!

[@paullambert4445]

I have 75 plus knives and Victorinox are still some of my favorites. They are not bushcraft knives, but I always have one in my pocket along with one of my Scandi knives when I’m outdoors. Your videos are pure fun.

[@paulwhat322]

You must live on a different planet

[@barbar7746]

I know M390 has a good edge retention, but is it easy to sharpen ? Because I don't see the point of having extremely hard steel if only a professional can make it sharp again.

[@blackpowderenergy]

ill admit that the victorinox dont hold a edge very long but the fact that you can spend 45 seconds and get it stupid sharp and shaving your face again im not going to complain i use it for a bunch of simple tasks every day at work and the one i have has the saw on it and it works perfect for cutting drywall

[@patrickmurray9409]

I've never minded my Swiss army knives. Easy to sharpen, an touch ups easy. I still own my Swiss. An will keep it till my fingers can't open it.

[@gregors.5734]

The best knife is the one you have, so MAYBE the soft Victorinox steel has its place?😅

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

It definitely has its place. This one is just awesome to get this option

[@youtubevoice1050]

Don't use folders for batoning guys. Use a wedge-shaped piece of wood or carve one into a wedge and baton that.

[@a.i.a3949]

In regaurds from its usefulness as a knife it seems to trump the victorinox. But far as its function as a multi-tool and ultility i think the victorinox huntsman is unbeatable, i use every tool of my huntsman, its not just a knife every tool on a victorinox has versatility. Putting a fork on whats supposed to be (im assuming due to them using titanium) a lightweight more utilitarian multi-tool is a bit of a red flag to begin with. Its like buying expensive lightweight hiking gear and then carrying bricks in your backpack to build a chair.

[@youtubevoice1050]

This is probably a more high-end version of the knife. The regular one has green handle scales and is clearly meant for food prep primarily.

[@badgercptusmc]

I prefer the huntsman as well. I’d love to throw the M390 blade in that.

[@fives645]

I love you guys. Your videos have helped me through some tough times and I can’t thank you enough for this.

[@lookoutpath6520]

See Felix Immler for how to properly baton a SAK. - 1st you make a baton & a splitting wedge 👍. Try it next time 👌 then you can show how to depend on a multi tool for survival .

[@matteblack5805]

After carrying the same victorinox daily for the better part of a decade, my most used tool is the cap lifter. Since it's a 111mm it had a quite beefy caplifter and it's great for prying tasks.

[@theochrist9453]

for Victorinox, it would be a Nightmare, to put different Steels on their product line, just because of the numbers they produce, just imagine then this model in that steel and that model in that steel. But I think their steel is not so bad, as it is easy to sharpen, and in all fairness, yo need to sharpen even the best hypersuperduper steel once in awhile.

[@megacab]

Yeah, logistics would be a nightmare and pretty expensive for them. They do very well with their current production and don't see them changing anytime soon!

[@CsabiNemeth]

I have never broke my Vic Forester.... and for me the edge retention is aceptable... so one + for Vic. As a multitool, and not for bushcrafting!

[@MegaDmitriy111]

Love your channel guys! Thanks for mentioning Ukraine. Every word of support is very important and helpful for us now. Good luck;)

[@miekeflowers4646]

All Dutch people support you, keep strong and never lose hope!

[@slick_slicers]

If you’re going to batton with a knife like this you start it like you did then you use a wooden wedge to split the wood.

[@Dravenos]

I've always seen to start batoning with it on the half mark, then carve a wedge to finish batoning. That way you don't break your tool!

[@marcoengelbracht4141]

Well Guys, M390 is too brittle for batoning. It is meant to be hard for keeping the edge by the cost of flexibility, but nice test. Although- poor knife 😥

[@Aurelius_01]

It’s been a year that I’m waiting for an other version of this knife with others tools.

[@fredperry9235]

Me too. Scissors not a corkscrew would be great

[@WPWeekends]

Great video! I gotta say I love the variety that you guys have been putting into the videos. The content is always strong, and the variety makes it even more fun to watch!

[@nunninkav]

What I learned today is that: Bear Grylis says to run full speed to collect tinder, Les Stroud says to collect 5 times what you think you need and MacGuyver is screwed if he has to bushcraft.

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

A non-locking folder should never be relied upon if given the choice, however they're always a must as a backup

[@natek1993]

You two are the best. Thank you for the greatest content on the Internet.

[@matthewdancik5515]

A few years back I purchased a Leatherman Charge made with Titanium and S30V blade for my daughter and myself. I think this was a limited run, though I'm not totally sure on that. At one point I did baton with it and while the wood I was using was not wet like what you were working with it did surprising well. Now, I'm not going to make a practice of using it in this way ever again unless it's vital, like end of the world shit, it did prove itself to be strong and durable. I've carried it everyday since, especially on camping trips in the BWCAW ( Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness in case you want to google it) Which is some of the more hardcore styles of camping only accessible via Canoe and portaging between lakes with some pretty extreme elevation shifts and hazardous terrain throughout. One never knows what they'll run into so adding a multitool to your EDC is highly recommendable. Hope you two are dry now. 😎 Cheers!!!

[@greekveteran2715]

Victorinox will lack only on edge retention, on anything else Victorinox will perform way better!!

[@Extiiinct]

What mini belt sander do you use for sharpening?

[@davidjustice1848]

It's a shame victorinox won't upgrade there steel a little because there tool selection is so useful

[@woidkautz4432]

Hi guys, which sharpening tool du u use. thanks..

[@86red-ch]

But would the Victorinox survive this splitting wood test? Better resharp a knive twice then broke it!

[@86red-ch]

Being a Swiss guy I cannot see our ultimate weapon take down without a excel sheet of test or a complete duel from A to Z 😉

[@desertratedc9596]

Have you guys done a video on Mercator yet? I very much like it as a backup to a belt knife. I typically run with an Esee 6, old boker carbon steel camp knife and my carbons steel Mercator K55K.

[@jasperveldhuis3880]

Always fun to watch your video's guys! The only thing about this one is..where you'll find zo'n lekker makreel in a survival situation, you usually don't find wood for a fire, hahaha. Ga zo door heren, wacht elke week weer op de volgende video!

[@8thsinner]

Remind me what the sharpness measure was on the rocksteads please? Did you do them.. I wouldn't have said sak steel didn't stay sharp past a day, in the old models it was 154cm which is not a crap steel in itself though I don't know if thats what they have been using for the last decade of new stuff.

[@craiglyness3518]

Question is have you gone back to a victorinox for your edc pocket knife or stuck with this.

[@negativewave]

Really enjoyed the video! Good choice on the music for this one as well! Love M390, but it's definitely more hard than tough.

[@rpc717]

They demonstrated that well!

[@randysterling4700]

Its so nice that society has came so far now that these two Beautiful souls can be open about their orientation and relationship with eachother and still talk about a manly subject like knives without judgment! ❤

[@DuxLindy]

wow the thin slipjoint knife broke when you batoned it? that's nuts

[@voider78]

So you have a link for the fish cooking setup in metal?

[@badgercptusmc]

Is the blade the same size as a Victorinox? Has anyone tried to blade swap so you could have the tools you want AND an M390 blade?

[@insanogeddon]

In the field a simple pocket V sharpener can in seconds put a hair popping edge on a Victorinox or Case, or Buck knife which is why they are good pocket carry for trips into the forest / bush to fish.

[@SkunkPunch73]

Yet again another bit of magic from you two absolute stars might I just add that the touch right at the start on the troubles in the Ukrainian was absolutely beautiful in fact it’s the first I have seen by anyone of the KZbin channels I follow so much respect lads. Stay safe and healthy till the next one 😉🥃🥃😘👍

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks man! We can’t fix anything! But it felt right to do a little thing what we could! Cheers man see you next week!!

[@SkunkPunch73]

@@DutchBushcraftKnives it was More than 99% of anyone else on this KZbin has done much respect lads 👍🏼

[@m1trand1re]

Thank you guys! A lot!🤘

[@anthonys239]

Just ordered the victorinox spirit mx clip multi tool from Dlt trading. Pretty pumped to receive it! Awesome video guys🤠

[@The4cp]

I really hope the replace or repair for you! I've been thinking about getting one of these myself.

[@SeaCatFl]

Great Video guys. I have carried a Victorinox since I was 10 years old. (I won't say how long ago that was but I still have my first one and that model hasn't been made for decades. I currently carry the 1 handed Trecker. (Actually the German Army issue version.) as well as the Swiss Tool Spirit X. They are my E.D.C. and when I'm camping I carry a larger fixed blade. (Usually a Condor Bushlore.) Now I know these knives don't have the best Steel in the World but I carry them for a reason. I can easily sharpen them in the Field. Now that being said I also carry a full sized Saw. (A folding Buck Saw I made.) as well as a Camp Axe. I don't mind carrying the extra weight even on longer hike. It's worth it. (I'm no Putin. I'm not strong like Bull**************************shit.)

[@gtrfreak]

Where do I get those titanium scales?

[@quinnjohnson-wemyss7093]

Hell yeah DBK Thursdays are the best.

[@Templarium]

I wonder what you'd think about Aitor(Spain) victorinox style multitools with locking mechanism... look for Aitor escape bloqueo see if you like it.

[@poartatrei7436]

So nice , and incredible for the size!

[@emmokaemingk9448]

I liked the music, as I am a very old man

[@stevanoutdoor]

Angling the handle 90 degrees does nothing for the stress on the pivot. That's only for Svord Peasant like knives where you can grab the extended blade part to open the knife. Batoning is not a task for a folder in general. Cutting wedges is. I have no use for a fork or a corkscrew in the outdoors. Titanium handle scales and better edge retention on the steel could be nice. But as you mention the power of a SAK is that you can put a workable edge back on with some flat stone you find in nature. So for me it's still the SAK with alox handles for the outdoors.

[@kenwoody4294]

Mikkie, you are the reason why we can’t have nice things.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

My victorinox went dull just by watching you scrape that tree

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Hahahahahaha

[@lundysden6781]

How I miss a nice fire in the woods to cook on!! Makes everything taste better!

[@richardmacyczko1580]

I've baton plenty of "smaller" pieces of wood with a multitool folded. That wood you used was too large and you were hitting it wrong. I've seen bushcrafters challenging themselves using a multitool for a weekend in the woods and having no problem. It was a fun video but not the baton part was not fair. Prayers for Ukrainian.

[@MikoArcher]

Many thanks. Best regards from Ukraine.

[@razbiton173]

What about their warranty? Does it worth anything ?

[@avilavance7915]

Hey guys, are you going to test knives from UG Tools in Germany? They have a very nice project by 3D printing Titanium handles. At the moment they are working on a new magnacut knife.

[@korgan7779]

As always love the work ya do! As far as MKM vers a Vic.. well I take it for what it is; the MKM is a beautiful and elegant tool suited for a Gent to go on a picnic, dinner, or evening out with his special Gal and can also be a great little EDC for general purpose but until they add options such as a saw. metal file, pliers, etc etc it just doesn't compare all that well. And price per performance at nearly 4 to 5 times the cost between the two for like tooled options or less if you get a Vic with a lot more options I'd rather carry a 4 inch leather strop in my pocket made from a cut up old full grain leather belt(which I do}.

[@epbrewtus1]

Loved it thanx!!! Texas loves you boys!

[@woweixiaomiandui]

During my military service I used a big knife mostly for batoning and other "heavy work" and then my old Victorinox gran prix for about everything else. It worked great, but I let it retire afterwards and now use mostly my modified tinker deluxe

[@thewolfofwokest7521]

Really enjoy watching you two jokers! Gday from Australia. :)

[@markusrye9051]

I am a Swiss guy with his Victorinox in bis pockets always. Not sure if I am going to like, but give it a try

[@redtabutopia8374]

Hello, pls do some review on tops silent hero knife..

[@Zinnsee]

You should make a video where you test different pocket knife sharpeners. In my backpack I always carry one from Lansky (the Quick Fix Pocket Sharpener), it's small and light and works well for me. But then again I don't abuse my knives like you guys do... It would be interesting to see if there's a better alternative since it's the only one I own or used so far.

[@thymii6946]

nah they only let fancy japanese water stones touch their blades, or the electric machine thingy.

[@LosRiji]

Fällkniven CC4!! Or/and the DC4

[@Jake_S_]

I harry a Victorinox Climber in my pocket every day. Most used tools in order: small knife, bottle opener, scissors.

[@danygodbout979]

if you only got a swiss knife for spliting wood you carve small wooden wedge with the knife and you drive them into bigger piece with a baton. make a notche where you want the wood to split and hammer the wedge with the baton along the grain of the disired splited wooden piece

[@hezekiahchacha413]

Hi guys am agreat fan and nice videos that you guys make, I don’t like multitool knife but watched because of you guys and I would like to suggest one knife that I think it’s a great knife but a little old and not as popular it’s a robust knife but very small in size and can be used in everything food prep, hunting, fishing, bushcraft, in tactical situations but also survival you guy ones you get a hold on it you will know it’s worth a purchase and the knife is TOPS OVERLANDER 2

[@moshrash]

Where can i find the spit you cooked the fish on?

[@conabot]

Guys please do a review or test on the Schnitzel Tri.. I really think you will like it and it is mad cheap for its build quality! Love your videos! Very entertaining content and love the humor! Keep up the good work mates.. ✌️

[@ChrisB_NC]

Great video.... You're a good friend Martin 👍

[@thymii6946]

dafug are you guys doing with a victorinox that it doesn't keep its edge for a day? I carry mine daily and still shaves between the odd jobs for months....

[@surface2wherever]

Awesome vid again dudes! When are you guys testing the Helle Utvaer?!

[@The_Crow_Flies]

wow that fished looked so good.

[@jean-baptistedemets3477]

Just got a Jeff White trade knife. If the quality of his Bush one is as good as the one i got, for 40 dollars, it may just be the best budget knife ! You guys have to check it out !

[@daemonharper3928]

I've seen powder steels break like that when they've been over cooked (ahem...when I've overcooked them, doh!). So I'm guessing at the annealing stage the temperature was too high.

[@robinhardwood1593]

Since M390 has lots of chromium carbides it'll generally be more of a brittle steel even when treated right. It's just not well-suited for heavier tasks.

[@jasongreenwood3260]

I liked it!!!

[@JayJay-oh1tw]

Great work as always boys! I can't find any (quality) durability tests on Dawson Knives 3V or Magnacut knives, maybe chuck one on your list of things to break?

[@shannonandsheila1403]

Magnacut is a steel

[@JayJay-oh1tw]

@@shannonandsheila1403 you are correct, gold star. Where were you planning to go with that statement?

[@robinhardwood1593]

I doubt that Dawson's differential heat treat would significantly change the performance of their blades. 3V is insanely tough stuff at 60 HRC and there's no fucking way to unintentionally break a 3,5 mm blade stock of that just using your bare hands... Magnacut on the other hand seems to perform amazingly good when heat treated well. I mean that stuff is THE ONE steel that gives a great combination of toughness, edge retention and corrosion resistance that every steel snob has been dreaming of

[@JiiJiitalo]

Try batoning with that Victorinox, will it break or bend? Oh, and test Leatherman multitool blade allso!

[@landscape7734]

Like your Intro : stop the war stop Putine !

[@Anonymous-is1iv]

No Amazon links??

[@dragonram7]

Another great video. Never borimg

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thank you ❤️

[@KorneyVox]

You are awesome guys 💙💛

[@cassandrask8]

Make “gluts” to split with a folder.

[@johnkitsis4612]

What pants do you guys wear?

[@voider78]

Awesome video

[@sammannaerts4178]

Tot aflevering !!

[@jnzupka]

Ironic since I recently got a new Victorinox that’s just a folding knife I just found that irony funny But I do really hope mine doesn’t share the same fate as what happened about 8 1/2 minutes in

[@johnstath9666]

Well I am not Dutch but I love the smoked mackerel. But your weather has made me understand why the Dutch have never won a World Cup. They need a flooded paddock. Great review and good luck next World Cup

[@promiscuous5761]

Thank you.

[@k20arl]

try out a new ASKknifes Jefferson made out of Magnacut steel, not the s45vn version. That thing is a modular overbuilt SAK. not a lot of tool at this moment but more's coming up

[@pounceonyou1958]

Hi DBK, please can you review these 2 knives, the Bark River Bravo 1 Hunter LT and the Bark River Gunny Hunter LT, with Magnacut blade steel, these are not yet available in Magnacut yet, but if your viewers contact DLT trading and Knives Ship Free and also Knives and Tools, then these will be put into production, if the request is also for Pre-Order on these then one gets to choose handle material and color, pins and liners. these are ideal bushcraft-survival-hunting knives, let us hurry with this before the war gets crazy and prices shoot up or just become unavailable.

[@snesleywipessqueegeeservices]

Boys chompin' on one of them deep forest mackerel-hitters. Yum.

[@janvavra1333]

What is the weight of that knife? btw. my heart was bleeding to see the batoning torture...

[@1xayekim]

Your videos are entertaining but I think you convince me not to buy things more often than not. If I had to choose between a Victorinox with the same limited tools I would pick the MKM hands down for the blade steel but calling it the best multi tool or fire making or any tool is a stretch. The tool is too limited to call it anything other than a EDC tool for the city. A LOT of Victorinox's knives have tool options like the saw, awl, file that have 90 degree spines and a tool like a Victorinox Huntsmen is going to be way more versatile in the fire making role than a simple EDC tool is.

[@gerardvanengelen9001]

Do you guys know Felix Immler ? He does betonning with a SAK.

[@johnsonmike527]

You guys need to test the Templar-Knives Raptor. It's a beautiful knife made in the Netherlands by custom blacksmith Andrew Jordan