Video Game Collecting and the Ethics of Expensive Hobbies

[@Dayman667]

This video is incredibly comprehensive and well made, good job man! I began collecting in 2017 after receiving my old SNES collection from my mom’s house. Luckily I had a lot of the heavy hitters that I never got rid of. Now I have a big huge shelf full of games for all sorts of consoles. The worst thing I’ve noticed since the pandemic is handheld prices. Everything from consoles to physical games for 3ds and Ps Vita and even GameBoy have gone absolutely insane.

[@TheKnowledgeIsOutThere]

Very well done. I’ve always said that the issue of always online is the downstream consequences of lack of access despite the reality that most if not all gamers have at least some internet connection in 2024.

[@cmgsgm]

Outstanding video. Don't agree with some of things you said but thank you so much for such a great video with such an essay of interesting gaming topics. Putting your opinion out to the Internet is bound to be a bloodbath of negativity and criticism but you ll find that a lot more people love it. Thank you for taking the plunge. I am a physical and digital game collector and I see pros and cons in both. Digital has some great things going for it. Having a Steam/Gog/Epic games library means that every time I get a new laptop or take a trip, my game libraries are right there, with no added size/weight, with current game versions and several other features that improve the experience. Physical games are magical objects that activate your memories of great experiences which you can t replicate with digital. All in all, love options, and see great stuff in both. Continue with the great content

[@123SpiceOld]

I literally couldn't agree more with the points made here. It's funny cause I'm not even into the hobby but I came across these KZbin channels that are essentially scalpers vlogging their business lmfao. I knew while watching i had issues with it but it's nice to see I wasn't the only one

[@PetitTasdeBoue]

Frankly that's when you underrstand why people says gatekeeping what you like isn't that bad... once it's mainstream and popular it will be flooded by scammers & else trying to make money from it...

[@thomaskrogh1244]

You get that even if you gatekeep.

[@lapielazoolie]

If anything, the scumbag resellers feel like gatekeepers themselves by outpricing everybody.

[@Vulioll]

Gatekeeping is just childish behavior. Man-child behavior.

[@PetitTasdeBoue]

@Vulioll if it could protect my passions I clearly don't care about being childish lol

[@paladinluke37]

​​@@Vulioll gatekeeping is in everything, bud.

[@JPatrickT12]

1:16:00 “It would be an all digital, passive income, subscription service DSM hellscape all the way down.” Man, send me the bumper-sticker. That’s EXACTLY what they want video games to be. “Biff, why do we sell a disc once for $50 when we could make them pay endlessly to access the digi stream? We could call it ‘games as a service’ and milk the little toads for decades to come!”

[@UnderTheSkin13]

It's so weird seeing this from the perspective of an American gamer because across the pond it couldn't be more different. I got the impulse to get a SNES classic so I could mod it, and I took the train to the store and sure enough they had piles of them for sale, basically covered in dust. No one wanted them. As for the PS4s, they did sell quite well over here, but the PS sections in used game stores are always the biggest, most stocked and most varied. People buy the games, beat them as quickly as possible and sell them to used game stores as early as possible for the biggest available payout (you can get around 35€ back on your 60-70€ game if you sell it in the first month it's out, on average). It's practically a meme how many copies of Spiderman and Red Dead 2 you can buy for like 12€ now, they're that prevalent. Xbox though? You're lucky if you're not stuck with Kinect games or french or German copies of games that tourists sell off here for some reason, or children are gifted by family members who live abroad and come to visit. Sad state of affairs for an Xbox player like me.

[@user-vu4ch6om7q]

w jack frost :)

[@Dayman667]

What’s the handheld market like over there? Here in the USA basically all things handheld are going up in price

[@UnderTheSkin13]

@@Dayman667 about the same. DS, 3DS, Vita, they all went slightly up in price lately. DSi XL has always been exorbitant but even the classic, Phat DS went from around 30 pre-covid to just about 100 now.

[@attilamarics3374]

@@UnderTheSkin13 I mean, xbox game prices are up, ofc. german language copies wont cost much, but that doesnt mean anything.

[@lchsleon]

Video randomly came up on my feed. Great video!

[@kurisu3000]

It's not random lol

[@b.o.4492]

Amazing video. Been collecting since the late 80s. Spot on about a lot of what you say.

[@steviefreakinc]

Such a well done video. Thanks for letting me be part of it!

[@richardlabrache7808]

I knew the Pokémon section was coming. I lost all my 3DS and DS games years ago and my collection has never recovered because the prices are ridiculous.

[@uncasualgameruk]

This video is incredible. Unfortunately i havent had time to watch it all yet, but ill be revisiting it this weekend. I too, have been a game collector for the past 7 years and agree with almost every point in this video. 😊

[@WinspearUltima]

I love gaming collecting a lot, I’ve been mainly collecting JRPGs and games that appeal to me. My boss at work once for Christmas gifted me a sega megadrive with all of the sonic the hedgehog games including sonic and knuckles.

[@careottjuice]

Silent minute for the guy in Japan whose grandma threw away his manga collection in the 80s or 90s because of space. (I read this in a book from the 90s but idk how old these news are). So yeah I read about this and it lives rentfree in my head, I hope the guy is still alive and has enough space for manga now.

[@TheJh7000]

Great video, thanks for sharing. I began collecting a couple of years ago and this video was really eye opening.

[@MrFuggleGuggle]

>Clayfighter: Sculptor's Cut on N64 for $400 Fake re-creation cart detected

[@TheLamartian]

This video was so cathartic, I watched it twice. I disagree with your assessment and characterization of capitalism, and probably some of your politics, but you thankfully did not let those things detract from the overall subject of this video, which was well researched, supported, and concisely conveyed. Well done.

[@acidpool-ap]

THIS! I wish you and all my fellow friends in such hobbies only the best! Thank you.

[@PetitTasdeBoue]

Samurai Jack, Steven Universe games, OK KO and the Adventure Time from Cartoon Network were all delisted this month without warning, RIP

[@sam_20_]

Just wondering delisted from where? Merci

[@CarbyGuuGuu]

@@sam_20_Delisted from pretty much every digital storefront. Thanks, Zaslav…

[@MAYOFORCE]

So much to unpack from this video. So much unethical shit's been going on the entertainment industries everywhere you look and even though you hadn't touched the animation and film industries this video's done a great job at providing a roadmap of frustrations people like me feel.

[@saltytbone]

I have so many PC/Games with Windows titles that probably don't work anymore (as well as "always online" games with no servers), I don't want to think about it. I know it's just part of the hobby now, but I get stressed thinking about It. Of course a level-headed person will say "but you didn't play that game for 15 years, why should it bother you that you can't play it anymore?" Well, it does.

[@moandaindesigns]

What an epic video. You hit the nail on the head 100%.

[@fwzzzz]

Random FYP video. No regrets watching it! Well done

[@thrasher888565]

problem with limited run games is well games are limited. once stopped the scrapping begins. same gos got like analog consoles. and if you didn't have the moeny at the time to buy the game your sol. also the investors are most likely game collectors who buy games to wate and sell em later on...this the community problem. things need to be preorder and made in batches or enough copy's for everyone. like low prints of games years from not thow prices will skyrocket...just crates a problem down the road not really addressing the problem.

[@thomaskrogh1244]

That all production of any products

[@The-GameBurrow]

whilst watching this i realised we both have the same exact optimus prime figure on our desks

[@saligraphy]

I sold a damaged pokemon Stadium 2 N64 box to a kid on marketplace who was 21 and he showed me his in box pokemon game collection. He told me.he spent thousands of dollars on these CIB games. I feel so bad for him, it wasn't that bad when I was 21

[@kxngNaki1252immortalsoul]

Only 5 mins in and I’m already hooked I know this goin be a good one

[@ClownTRON777]

Bro I just struck gold on this video, thanks for making my insomnia less of an issue this video is great!!!!

[@JaxTH]

So, at around 1:13:00 you talk about Nintendo announcing the shutdown of the 3DS store and say they "soft closed" it ahead of time. While that is true, you could still add funds to your Nintendo account through your Switch to buy stuff on the 3DS. In fact, after Sony didn't shut down the PS3 and Vita stores they did the exact same thing. You can only add funds to your PSN account through the online store or through a PS4/PS5. Anyway, nice video.

[@stenohero]

I was going to say this. I added a lot of credit to my 3DS account in March 2023 lol. It wasn't a secret either... the timeline was laid out by Nintendo from the initial store closure announcement. Great video though!

[@Kaibaspirit]

As a fellow Fate fan and video game enjoyer, you've earned my respect and subscription.

[@danyole]

This is a great video and I hope that it gets enough attention to encourage more like it. You hit on a lot of points that could each be their own videos or even point people in the right direction for doing their own research. The transition from consumers owning games into consumers being granted licenses, the importance of games preservation, the general wastefulness of focusing on a bottom line profits instead of quality, etc. I really appreciated the self awareness you showed throughout as well. The biggest points of disagreement I have are where you're drawing boundaries between what is ethical/acceptable and what is not. Specifically when you are talking brick and mortar video game stores and the hobby in general--in each instance it feels as though you started off with your current stance and worked backwards to justify it instead of scrutinizing it. For brick and mortar video game stores, they are incentivized to stockpile inventory and mark-up prices to stay in business, and this is only going to get worse as we move further away from physical media. As you lay out, more and more the industry is moving towards licenses and games as services. What value will an Xbox One game incomplete on disc have when the servers are no longer available? Or a multiplayer only game that no longer has support? As it becomes common practice the physical versions of these games are going to be nothing more than E-waste that stores cannot sell, and (I worry) they will become reliant on continuously buying and reselling the same old games or otherwise go out of business. If circulation is healthy then maybe it will be sustainable, but if collectors buy up the available copies, the supply will only ever decline and the price will be forced upwards. It isn't as egregious as scalpers, but nevertheless it only makes the hobby harder and harder to get into. Basically, I worry that the industry itself is forcing anyone interested in this hobby to behave "unethically" because we either fight over relics of past, more consumer friendly times or otherwise cede control to them. But just because the industry is forcing us in this direction just not mean that we are free of responsibility for choosing to participate. Similarly towards the end you put video game collecting on a scale against other hobbies and assign a sort of relative morality; sure we do not spend as much money on this hobby as some other people do on their respective hobbies, but (I feel) that does not necessarily make it okay. Sure, the 6-figures that someone else spent on a car or exotic pet could go further, but that does not mean that the hundreds we spend on games wouldn't be consequential in someone's life. I guess what I mean to say is that there is no reason to be critical of other more expensive hobbies just because they are somehow more wasteful. Your arguments have merit without needing to shift responsibility. With finite resources, anything we consume is at the expense of someone else regardless of scale. I hope that this does not come across as too critical, I just really enjoyed the video and think that dialogue on where we, as humans, choose to give ourselves excuses is important to reducing polarization and promoting empathy. I would love to hear your opinions on more, like what you think the landscape of used game stores will look like in, say, 10 years when the industry is more likely to be even further from physical media. I am also interested to know your stance on whether a game needs to be "preserve-able" to have any worth. MMOs, multiplayer-only games, mobile games, etc may seem inherently predatory in the current ecosystem, but generally speaking if the consumer is getting something they want out of the experience, does it matter if the game eventually disappears? The memories and fun along the way aren't lost just because it is no longer accessible.

[@unseenphantomamvsytp2186]

1:37:35 Thank you for saying what can be done.

[@Yusuf-slz]

Very nice Video. Corona was really a huge downer to all these hobbys. I think there is a similarity to tourists. They came to this place with money in theyr pockets, without really knowing the worths and everything, they just want to be a part of it. So some people took advantage and increased the prices. Now the damage is done and the people who live there cant affort anything anymore. I just have to correct you in one point. LRG is not a small Company. Theyre part now of the Embracer Group and they dont only print small games anymore. They worked for Konami and Ubisoft, which definetily have the capacitis to print the games in normal way. Especially because you critisized Nintendo for unnecessary limiting theyr products. What basicly is the whole buiseness model of LRG.

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

It also goes on the assumption that you'll be in an environment that will be okay to participate and in that activity

[@DirtyMike124x]

Wow. This was top notch. Thank you for sharing.

[@jort801]

Well made video, congratulations

[@dr.prophet8972]

That about LRM is something Im willing to give the benefit of the dought. Compare to before when they say "Only 1500-2500 copies avilable in existance" to "Un-limited Pre-Orders, from this day to expiration of 1 month" is a masive relief. So yeah, I take this new working method over the numbered BS we got before and others are still using.

[@mikecapps7401]

Shoutout to Steel Collectables! Super rad local game shop!

[@ReservedInvestments]

There is so much to unpack here, so let me just say that as one of those evil 'finance guys' you mention in this video, I did enjoy the video. I agree with about 50% of some of your points made in this video and disagree with the rest. I fully acknowledge that video game collecting as a hobby was much better before the days of mass speculation and of course third party grading. If you know my work in the antiques and collectibles trade, I am very cautious about manipulated and unregulated markets. That said, I don't think the speculators will be leaving any time soon unfortunately. Nonetheless, I wanted to leave a comment to hopefully help increase the reach of this video and let viewers make up their own minds on your talking points. I wish you and your channel all the best.

[@vgrepairs]

HEY IT'S SHAWN/SHAUN/SEAN/SAUL!

[@cholohd32]

EBAY & perhaps not just the resellers and scalpers. I fondly remember collecting old 8bit cassette game tapes. One day i could buy buy like a dozen tape games for like 5 bucks & then ebay happened & suddenly every tape was like 20+ bucks EACH. Kinda silly remembering that a lot of the games was original 2 bucks budget titles. I obviously stopped collecting tapes. It tried picking up other hobbies like i even got into some fairly modern figurines (action), bought a figurine but wanted to buy a extra copy for spare parts .. but suddenly a month later a 35 bucks figure was suddenly selling for 130 buck from over 80+ different sellers. Could just be a single reseller of cause, but again i dont blame anyone else following suit when the price goes up it just business logic. Games going digital & online does kinda feel like its turned into the worst possible dystopian nightmare we couldnt even dream off back in the day. The greedy microtransactions, price fixation so that 10 year old games still cost full price 50-60 bucks. To end my rant on a positive, going online & digital has mostly fixed availablility issues at least. Because back in my childhood living in a small town in a small country id walk into the local video game store & they would have like 2-3 copies of Bubble Bobble or Gryzor (Contra) & if you didnt buy them instantly they be gone never to return. I dont miss that.

[@RealBrawlz]

Incredible video, I agree with most of it. Even points I was going to disagree with, you added further context to where I don't disagree anymore. I do disagree on one point though. Gacha games. I don't like them, and have friends who mainly play numerous of them, but some of them are crafted so well when it comes to story, gameplay and graphics (Mihoyo games like Star Rail, Genshin etc). The one big positive I'd give these games are the ease of access. There are people who can barely afford many games at all, so having a quality AAA level experience in a free experience is not necessarily a bad thing (Just everything else with the gacha aspect is).

[@JayPeaOrtiz]

I like Limited Run but as someone in Europe, I sigh every time they have exclusivity because if I don’t play those incredibly high shipping prices, I get nada.

[@Bren71319]

I was thinking of adding to my GameCube collection recently but a quick look at the prices on Amazon quickly changed my mind.😩

[@EJisArete]

I've always been a casual player who was a generation or two behind. I'm fine with some of this stuff being 'collectible' but I'm on a hobby budget. The collectible card games like MTG pushed me out with the glut of product and variations.

[@Elgar337]

I hadn't heard of "Path to Nowhere". It sounds like an apt title for a game of its kind.

[@LuisLopez-zh9kh]

> I was born in 93 so I was too young to own a NES or SNES I am only a few years older than you and here in Mexico owning any of those Nintendo consoles was still a luxury by late 90s/early 2000s standards

[@Roman00744]

lol you were spot on on so many things, I did trade my Sega megadrive with games in the 90s for a set of speakers and amplifier and my Gamegear with games for a GPU because I moved to the PC for gaming and didn't own a console until a couple years ago and regret very much trading those away. Now I own most consoles I'm interested in and growing my game collection, stopped buying digital media so that money goes to physical media. Yes nintendo has changed for the worse and I'm not willing to support them with my $$ so didn't give them a cent in the last 10 years at least, I only buy their stuff used.

[@FanOfSome]

Thank you.

[@PerfectSwagHD]

I need to confess something I used to just collect games I only care about. For example I don’t like Pokémon games I used to pass several times on many times on Pokémon games from ds/game boy color for dirt cheap but since scalpers/resellers got into my beloved JRPG PS2/PS1 or other games I’m interested on I became a reseller just so I could afford the games I really want blame capitalism or whatever you want At one point I had several Pokémon games and I actually hate Pokémon It’s sad but that’s the reality I hope there a market crash so I could buy the games I want

[@TheSwiftFX]

What a fantastic video

[@RandomGameClips27]

Yes would love to see a video about PS Vita

[@A-1-Sawce]

I've got a LOT of PS2 games I'd bought at the time, had expendable cash and was in my 20's. Damn near every single horror game that was released in the US, love me some Silent Hill, and just a large assortment of titles all around. Still have a lot of my NES/SNES/XBox/Dreamcast/N64 etc games as well. I spent a lot at the time but nowhere near what I'd be spending on these nowadays, that being said it doesn't hold a candle to what i wind up spending on comics lol. Even the rarer games i get will be a fraction of what a nice key issue I'm after costs. Now that I'm in my 40's I've started to wonder what compels me to keep collecting in general? I guess preservation, but I've slowed down a lot. Everything is just so damn much now!

[@anonymoustroll2432]

You know that the cartridges and disc may eventually rot over time. Be all worried about that.

[@sixzerothreeonesevensixnine]

Every time I watch a story video from someone in America or Canada to talking about their childhood collections be it games or albums and parents input I feel sorry for them. The parents over there spent way too much time trying to police everything. Burning Motley Crue albums and forbidden Resident Evil or whatever. Parents over here in the UK don't get into all that. They know it's just entertainment and in many cases temporary entertainment.

[@stevenrosscarpenter]

Maybe the scalpers and flippers just grew up playing MULE and wanted to live their favorite game.

[@EthansSpace]

This video is so woderful! It's so hard to watch videos about the games industry that don't address capitalisms inherit flaws and how what we're going through is by design and inevitable and that we need to actively work for change and not suck off huge companies.

[@JanaeRose]

I just started collecting last year. It’s the best thing I’ve ever done but it’s started to get expensive at this point cuz I damn near bought all the cheap ass games.

[@tomt55]

I'm 59.ive collected many things - guitars, amplifiers, DVDs, Blu Rays to name a few. After thikngs changed for me financially over the passed few years, I had to sell almost all my guitars and amps. I never got the video game collection bug, but I embraced emulation and really enjoyed being able to play my favorite games and many games and systems I never got to okay and not taking up hardly any space by way of my modded OG Xbox and modded Xbox 360. As an anti capitalist and being poor, I had to shed my huge consumerism habits. I can see why game emulation is so popular. The cost and space issues with physical media collecting are just no longer an issue with emulation. I realize game purists say that it's just not the same experience but I have a blast playing my modded Xbox consoles and have access to thousands of games at a fraction of the price and no space issues. Most people cannot afford retro systems or the actual games these days, so emulation remains a fantastic solution for most people.

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

The newer generations won't have access to original hardware or software that is paired with it but thanks to enthusiast as long as the internet is a thing and there's storage that's portable like flash drives then anyone can experience pretty much any game with an emulator, yeah?

[@SuzuiChan]

in the end of 3ds wiiu online store you were able to get money there by putting it on a switch using the same nintendo account as your older console, tho i never understood why they made it that hard

[@lucyrukentropft9385]

Oh nyo, I remember that weird lego creator game

[@PetitTasdeBoue]

Also the main reason why they're all going demat is also... ecological. It's not a joke, if you got on the Playstation website you'll see multiple pages talking about studies they made showing the digital market produce less carbon print than the physical one. It's the same reasonning than Europe wanting everyone to have an electric car basically lol Everyone is following the same agenda

[@AltonB.6776]

Just cuz thats what they say doesn't make it the truth. Btw how do you think they generate the electricity for those cars? (Fossil fuels)

[@PetitTasdeBoue]

@AltonB.6776 oh electric cars sucks I never Saïd I agreed with that either, and I think they're starting to go back on the 100% electric in 20X0, they may start to realize it's not a good idea 😂 But I'm just saying all demat IS also coming from a ecologic lobby, european directives etc.

[@lapielazoolie]

So pretty much the same reason smartphones don’t even include a charger out the box anymore

[@eyebutter]

I'm glad at least the PS5 Pro got scalped and it fumbled pretty terribly for the scalpers. Maybe we’ll collectively learn to give on new consoles for a bit and they will leave. I think like the video said, having patience is important and who knows could stop one aspect of the bs

[@JAJITJIT-d7m]

Nintendo also did the artificial scarcity with the Nintendo 64 when it was first released.

[@reygartv9184]

Oooo, I see you are a fan of fate series, wich is you favorite servant? Mine is Minamoto no raikou from fgo

[@tomt55]

Payday 3 and Redfall are perfect examples of 'live service' co-op games that were released on highly incomplete states... It's so sad... So many disappointed fans out there as a result of this type of behavior.

[@rokmare]

With prices being where they are with retro games right now it kinda made me regret not picking up some titles back in the day because I thought they were overpriced at the time 😂

[@LordJaroh]

I collect Magic the Gathering, and it suffers from all of the problems of the Video Game unethical issues and then some, to even larger degree. It makes me sad.

[@DCFatCat]

3:40 real estate he's talking about real estate right?

[@clintkarklus5523]

I definitely contributed to the problem back in 2020. I sold a majority portion of my collection amid the latter pandemic period. Also, Playstation announced it was shutting down the PS3 store at the same time as I was starting to sell my physical PS3 games. I wasn't a total asshole about it tho. Any time someone asked me for a discount, i would always accommodate them and I generally listed games for less than most copies in similar condition. But yea, I took a sabbatical and went to Africa for a month on selling a few dozen games, it was wild.

[@GreenBeanSilly]

Amazing video, agree with everything you said here. So sick of seeing pokemon investment channels popping up on my feed and "guys you MUST start buying -insert console here- games now!!!" videos. One way I found to help curb the strong feelings of wanting to buy more pokemon related items that I don't need, is to just draw pokemon I like. I've also found myself enjoying decorating my nintendo handhelds with stickers and keycharms! Shame that it's seen more of a "girly" hobby to decorate game consoles and handhelds if it's more than changing the buttons or housing

[@pwnomega4562]

I wish I could time travel backward a good 5 years... I wish I could get back my old copy of pokemon heart gold because now you gotta pay like 150 bucks for it loose and there's like a 9 out of 10 chance that it's a fake that in the best case scenario will simply not work.

[@MrFuggleGuggle]

Video Game Collection has gotten gross... But, I also own 230 physical Nintendo Switch games - all of which are likely to see a decent bump in value and price - as soon as the Nintendo Switch 2 is truly announced, and released. My PriceCharting account has a pretty sweet value curve going up-and-up every month. My total collection is well over 1,450+ physical games across NES, SNES, Game Boy, PS1, PS2, GBA, PS3, Gamecube, Wii, Xbox and Xbox 360, Wii U, NDS, 3DS, PS4, PS5, etc.

[@Cal_03]

When the switch 2 is released switch games are gonna drop not go up, that's how it's always been for most consoles, PS1, PS2, PS4, Xbox one, Xbox, Wii, PS3, Xbox 360, ds, psp, Wii u and 3ds are all still cheaply available, even a lot retro stuff is cheap enough

[@MrFuggleGuggle]

@ you’re only correct when it comes to common games in high supply. Out of print titles and anything on original NSW that suffered from performance and frame rate issues stands to improve, which men’s their value on a versatile system will only increase. But not everyone collects like I do.

[@Cal_03]

@@MrFuggleGuggle perhaps 🫠

[@HatsuneMiku-hh1cn]

What are your feelings on people like Palmer Lucky who creates mod retro?

[@shanenice5380]

i was collect many years.

[@lapielazoolie]

It pains me how lucrative the resale market has become, you summed it up best at the beginning of the video when mentioning that it awards only the early adopters while hurting the newcomers as someone who grew up knowing an older sibling who had since moved out.

[@minari99]

Money is the necessary evil in this world

[@linklickz]

im 21 and i just buy modded consoles and put a bunch of downloaded games on them because these prices are not worth it i collect cartoons and anime dvds because the scalpers haven't gotten to them (yet)

[@Shatterglass23]

I love EVERYTHING this guy said about Nintendo. No hate. Because it's THE TRUTH. And I love Nintendo but I'm not a Sucker like most of them sadly are. PlayStation is my fav. NO SHAME in it

[@dead_redux]

What is the game at 20:20? I'm interested in robots spiders 😂

[@dimbe4122]

...33:25...companies do not create inflation....governments do, by printing more money and devaluing the currency, meaning your money worth less, you can buy less things with it. here is 101 in economics: The value of the thing you buy determined by how much you willing to pay and how much the seller willing to sell the product for

[@Lemuel928]

Except the Bible is always small with one Larryboy Video Game that nobody talked about.

[@ShinDigListener]

well said

[@VelliMak]

First of all, I don’t think gaming is that expensive of a hobby. To my mind, collecting fine art, or cars, or having your own horse, or having four kids play in a hockey team as goal keepers, are out of the mid-income people’s reach. Gaming is popular because the majority can afford to have it as a hobby. It sucks that the collector market went to shit, but it will come back down once the generational and cultural shifts happen (both in gaming and in popular culture generally) and there is no more easy money to be made and the hustlers leave because games aren’t worth anything again. Maybe we’ll see this happen slowly during the 2020s if not the next year.

[@Jackbat69]

Old Pokemon games are expensive because everyone wants them and there's not enough to go around That's why complete copys are Expensive... That's why everything pass gen 5 Is piss cheap no one wants those bad pokemon games

[@froderickalabaster]

42:18

[@oldb3139]

Because of the push for all digital i switched to pc gaming last year. Not gonna be locked into a console ecosystem waiting to get f'ed. Have gotten more free games true Epic, GOG and Amazon Prime than I bought and the only 3 games I bought around release 'full price' cost me a little over 40 euro's via key sellers within the first week off release. Never going back to consoles only. Xbox is dead for me anyway. To many lies. Kept some physical games, sold many. Indie games are better than a lot of so called AAA studio releases. Ganing needs a reset.

[@gregoryberrycone]

can someone sum this whole video up in like one or two sentences lol

[@cgm4379]

Commodity fetishism

[@linklickz]

also i disagree with your point about indie games having more variety they are also very derivative and only really cover a handful of genres and not very well most of the time

[@nuclearicebreaker]

how is life with a learning disability?

[@sunbeam9229]

This is why I pirate older games.

[@Saber-L.T.]

#InterestedInAPSPVitaVideo

[@keijijohnson9754]

19:36 - Okay first of all, THAT'S BS. When factoring in all the platforms released in the eighth generation, there was still a BEVY of legit console exclusives on ALL the platforms as the time. And second... WHAT DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH GAME COLLECTING?! Between the complaints of console exclusives, which again is BS especially when factoring in both first parties and handhelds at the time, and the manamdarory install complaint, which by the way isn't an Xbox One only issue it is something that is common with the PS4 too, ALL OF THAT are complaints that are more for a different video altogether instead of this one here. It just derails the video when it ends up being irrelevant to the issue of game collecting as a hobby nowadays instead of adding to it overall. It's just unnecessary filler.

[@nathsabari97]

Even if you buy the crew on disc, you can't play it. So what is the point of physical? Also publishers delist the games from the store and not from players library, i can still download and play original vice city on steam. Having a physical disc means you can resell it for money, which is what you are against in this video and you are not a collector but a reseller

[@LordJaroh]

Nice strawman.

[@gameonhawaii5326]

I tried 😴💤

[@strayiggytv]

So what about those of us who don't have local video game stores? Resellers and scalpers are not the same thing.

[@lapielazoolie]

The one near me became a husk of its former self after the pandemic, you can only blame the scalpers for hurting resellers.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

I get really good deals on eBay if I'm patient

[@strayiggytv]

@TheMysteryDriver I do to which is why I think the whole hog dismissal of resellers is a bad idea in any hobby. Scalping and reselling are different activities lol

[@strayiggytv]

@@lapielazoolie scalpers are people who control the supply and yeah I agree they suck big time. The person going to yard sales or thrift store searching for games isn't a scalper imo as those games could end up anywhere and not necessarily into the hands of a collector. I think it's a fallacy many people who collect fall into when they believe if nobody ever picked and resold that every game of item would make it to a collector. People who scout for games like that are keeping more in circulation and out of the landfill.

[@lapielazoolie]

@@strayiggytv Of course, to resell something is to sell something you’ve already acquired after all. Those retro gaming stores relied on past gamers to forego their collections, preferably for the latest & greatest, in order to resell whereas scalpers are scoping out garage & yard sales from parents with recently moved-out children for bargain deals as to earn maximum profit. The price gouging is no different than what’s being done with life essentials, it isn’t just videogames or hobbies for that matter

[@nuclearicebreaker]

This video is not about ethics of expensive hobbies, its about him not being able to negotiating pokemon cards with children effectively.

[@shinobi13]

I was on board with this untiI the talk of piracy. That's one of the major reasons publishers have all this anti-piracy DRM, and online focused shit today, as it either severely hinders, or outright prevents piracy. Instead of pirating big names like Pokemon or Fire Emblem, support smaller games instead, using both your time and money to help find the devs worth supporting now. If more people did that, I feel we'd be in a better place.

[@Bargate]

A lot of people who pirate games have little to no money to buy games even indies. Besides depending on the game there might not be an indie on the same level of quality as the original. For example I don't think I've seen a indie game in the style in Fire emblem yet that is as good as Fire emblem. Dark Deity and Symphony of War are good but not as good or polished as Fire Emblem. I do agree with your comment but there's plenty of reasons why it's not always possible.

[@PaulAndYisvanna]

When you wanted a long form video and got "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah". Blah...

[@bargaintuesday812]

"Late stage capitalism" Ugh, I'm out.