Vikings 5x9 REACTION!! "A Simple Story"

[@Its_Dave_Just_Dave]

It just shows that even the mightiest warrior can be felled by something small and insignificant, not all characters can die heroically in battle

[@sonofsomerset1695]

I thought it added a level of realism, no obvious build up and life isn't fair, death can strike at any moment, especially back then.

[@HuntMrPredator]

i dont think the problem is how he died, it was just too fast like i couldn't even figure out wtf happened. I would be more accepting if he was ill for another episode bevore he died where he could reflect on his life actions and with a bit of context to his death like every healer tried to help but failed.

[@omar_elattar.5865]

reddwarf115 I agree.

[@Edward-ki9vg]

except Ivar cause he is "badass" ...this fucking show

[@allenantony6523]

They don't have to die heroically... but it could have been narrated in a way that was not stupid and insulting the intelligence of the audience

[@Asa...S]

Floki saw a goddess who spewed out a lot of bees on Iceland. I wonder if one of those bees flew on a long journey to England to kill Athelwulf.

[@the_oneironaut]

Maybe...

[@maurice9766]

or england got bees man idk

[@frxshjb9692]

Who’s here from the twitch live

[@Turtle-yu3bd]

Yes

[@StonedMachine3000]

Personally loved Aethelwulfs death, as it was almost poetic. Such irony in the idea of a king in his prime, defeated by a bee.

[@LoSTRaMaiR]

Gave you a thumbs up because I agree pretty much. I’d just say that I didn’t love his death, but if he had to die I loved how they did it.

[@lucas2135]

I didn't like it, they could have done better

[@SnailHatan]

Nothing poetic about it.

[@finger3306]

​@@lucas2135 it's how it happened irl

[@augxman]

Who is here after livestream BEE 14:14

[@War_Maker]

14:42 looks like Eric wants to kick the door down and quit vikings on the spot xD

[@trollmaiden2112]

Aethelwulf's death is the "I slipped on the banana skin and broke my neck" type of death.

[@jonnyo3379]

I believe Aethelwulf in real history died suddenly of unknown causes so they had to figure out a way for that to happen in the show.

[@mrgarina2977]

hi someone from 5 years ago

[@miekgg]

@@mrgarina29775 yrs later after knowing the history / aethelwulf literally did die of a bee sting - 100% just like that😭 poor guy he was set to rule for decades

[@_FILMBuFF_]

I Totally understand Eric's disappointment with this one, this episode is a complete mess, very frustrating.

[@pcgaming4944]

;-;

[@claudiolotito342]

yes, but the next is one of the most beautiful ever...

[@ducksauce9187]

its not a mess tho? its straight forward and obvious and realistic..

[@_FILMBuFF_]

Who's used to Hollywood bullshit stories ? this was simply a terrible episode, it's heavily flawed, one of the worst of the show for me (and not because of the bee sting death, I actually thought the ironic death was quite refreshing) You want to talk about people used to Hollywood bullshit, wait till they put up their finale reaction and a shit load of people complain about not like the editing style of the episode and would have preferred yet another uninterrupted battle...

[@_FILMBuFF_]

Yes the finale was one of the better S5 episodes 👌

[@award3321]

Since vikings season 5 part A is coming to an end. How about watching it's BBC counterpart The Last Kingdom now that Alfred is King?

[@AllieB-11.11]

Eric - But Judith had learnt so much about statecraft from Ecbert so it's not just that she's wiser due to age but due to her relationship with Ecbert.

[@Aforgamon]

I don't think we know know exactly how Aethelwulf died IRL, but it seems pretty unlikely that it was from a bee sting. The whole bit where Aethelred was forced to step away was also made up. In reality Albert had THREE older brothers that all became king before he did, including Aethelred who reigned for 6 years.

[@LoSTRaMaiR]

You mean Alfred, right? Or not? Several people agreed with you so I am not sure

[@Reece_Hart]

It's funny that the break has been that long that you guys have caught up to us

[@RG2088]

I'm like Shane this was one of my favorites.

[@ValeofFlowers]

It makes more sense - to me - that the show doesn’t spoon feed you all of the answers because Vikings occurs during the Dark Ages, where knowledge of the time was - and still is limited; furthermore, most of the series is influenced by Saxon and Norse legend, with a dabble of history.

[@pcgaming4944]

aaaand... the depression begins! ;-; I get how they wanted Aethelwulf to go out someway that isnt expected, like Robert from GoT.. but this still pissed me off greatly.. and there just wasn't enough time to be depressed, I loved Aethelwulf more than anyone else after Ragnar and Ecbert.. but I was more angry than sad tbh. Can't say I disagree with Eric on this one.

[@ms_scribbles]

Alright, I'll say it one more time, and then just skip this reaction and wait for next week. Go research the history of this time. You will find no contemporary account of how Aethelwulf died. What that means is that he DIDN'T die in battle, or in any other violent way, because the chroniclers of the time would have written it down. The fact that they didn't means he died from a quick, sudden illness that they didn't find interesting enough to write about in detail. Personally, if they're going to pick a way for him to die, I'd rather they did it this way than some disease that made him shit himself to death or something equally humiliating.

[@pcgaming4944]

i'm glad he didnt go out in battle or some obvious way, I just didn't feel like the show did it right, at least didn't feel right to me. I did not want to feel more anger than depression over a fav character of mine dying.. that's all.

[@EloImFizzy]

My reaction to Aethelwulf's death was like my reaction when I first read the Red Wedding.

[@jameshughes7946]

Ahhh Season 5... starts with a bang ends dead on its arse

[@TheBelieberswagJB]

James Hughes Well, it isn't over yet. I have a feeling 5b is going to be better, just like season 4

[@lawrens8648]

Malin Solhaug We should be getting the 5B trailer and release date next week becuse of comic con.

[@ducksauce9187]

Still here you are watching a reaction video to a show you think is "arse" you in denial maybe?

[@jameshughes7946]

DUCK SAUCE Nah I like Blind Wave and I don't mind the beginning of season 5 it's just the middle to end sucks

[@TheBelieberswagJB]

Lawren Stewart Yup, very exited about that. I hope it is in August and not November as some people think

[@Gulliedoutbigup]

Alfred historically is the one who united Englands kingdoms into what we now know as England and drove the Vikings out.

[@batkolyo_]

What do you call a wolf stung by a bee? - An Aethelwulf .

[@Leonardo-xz9xl]

I completely understand the controversy of this episode; there were some parts i didn't like either like Rollo deus ex machina giving his army to Hvitserk (we might get an answer for that on 5B but its still forced and came out of nowhere) or the forced romance between Lagertha and Eathmund (again, came out of nowhere). There is also the issue of Alfred being crowned as king which was done pretty fucking fast (i still find forced that Aethelred gave out the crown just because his mother told him; even after Aethelwulf told him to listen to his mother this is fucking dumb) but i don't mind that much that part. About the bee death; i might be one of the 0.01% that didn't mind that part at all; Aethelwulf needed to die eventually anyways.

[@rafz9147]

It was easy to understand that ivar wasnt serious about reconciliation with his brothers

[@sonofsomerset1695]

If you're looking for a show to replace Vikings now you're about to have its spot free, I highly recommend the sci-fi show The Expanse, you guys would love it.

[@alex_gaimar]

Okay, I've just watched the last two episodes and I loved them. I was emotional during Aethewulf's death. It was realistic, you could have died from literally anything. There was no proper medicine and hygiene was terrible (Vikings were better in that, I think). For some reason, when I watched Aethelwulf going from the throne room I thought he looked old and when he got stung I realised what is going to happen. I'm also glad he didn't die by the hands of Vikings. He didn't give in and died because of natural reasons. I even said Aye without too much thinking. I guess I really wanted see Alfred the Great a got excited. Sorry, Aethelred. You could be the general though.

[@tiffyj]

I like that you watch the show with a critical eye. Something that was missing during your got s7 discussions (in my opinion). ;) Nevertheless keep up the good work and don't shy away from criticizing the shows you watch.

[@Leonardo-xz9xl]

Yeah, it kind bothers me how he complains about Vikings timelines and fast travels making no sense (which to be fair he isn't wrong) but was 100% ok with it when GoT did it (and GoT does it A LOT). I get that he likes GoT more than Vikings but he should be fair to both shows.

[@dakingataleedo]

@Jon Snow it seems like you were doing the same thing as him

[@SnailHatan]

@@Leonardo-xz9xl The time shenanigans are not at all comparable between the two shows. GoT-except between seasons-almost exclusively time skips in the later seasons when characters are traveling from place to place, because there is no need to show travel. Vikings skips years ahead in the span of one episode with the only indication being new castings. Literally in the middle of an episode, Vikings jumps like 10 years ahead. And it does this many, many times.

[@leahmarie112]

Watching you guys react to the terrible writing and storytelling of these last few episodes makes me feel better. I thought I was getting unreasonably bitter, but this just proves it. They just clear the way of every character to make room for others and they don't even bother to tie up the ends well. I'm so sick of Lagertha looking 30 when she should be 55+, same with torvi, its like they didn't know what to do with her so they just sat her in Ubbe's lap so they don't have to worry about giving her a story....ugh

[@traceyandrob13]

In that time they didn't know about allergic stuff so bee sting was a mystery

[@larochejaquelein3680]

Rip my boy Athelstan

[@jjpe306]

I hated Aethelwulf's death at first, but I appreciate it more now. It was wishful thinking to think Hirst was going to give him a heroic death or end his life with success and fulfillment. Aethelwulf had his positive qualities, but Hirst was committed from the beginning to making his life and lot as pathetic and humiliating as possible. And that continues after his death, with Judith undermining his lineage and legacy. And there's a lot of irony in the Ecbert/Athelwulf/Athelred lineage immediately losing control over the unified throne of England they established, with the Aelle/Judith/Alfred lineage actually gaining the power.

[@jonathanmalangis2323]

And in history they were not able to hold the power gained by Ecbert.

[@emariepreraphaeliteshaolin8141]

But doesn’t Alfred unite all the kingdoms into one united England

[@timor86]

according to history Authelwolf death was a surprise, he got sick and died very quickly and no one know the reason.

[@timor86]

and Athelred did become king after him until he died and then Alfred become king.

[@Asa...S]

They've left out a bunch of sons. The oldest son, Æthelstan died before Æthelwulf. After Æthelwulf died, Æthelwulf's second oldest son Æthelbald became king,and then his third oldest son Æthelberht, and then his fourth oldest son Æthelred and then Alfred.

[@BingleFlimp]

Eric wants to accept the weird plot points because he thinks they're being a "slave to history" but they take a lot of artistic licences with the show. I have not seen any accounts that even describes the details of how Æthelwulf died. As a slightly biased Englishmen, it really annoys me that the only physically badass Anglo-Saxon that didn't immediately side with the Scandinavians five minutes after meeting them died in such a stupid way.

[@jonathanmalangis2323]

If you would look back at his life the writer was dedicated to make his life and even death humiliating

[@HornsoftheStagg]

This whole episode was full of artistic license. Aethelwulf's death, Alfred's inheritance, Rollo's aid, Heahmund in Scandinavia.

[@jayjones5817]

Came after the live stream haha

[@MamaFauzanChannel]

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[@Mossyy13]

There was no record of how he died so thye had full creative liberty, so they had him stung by a bee, there is no historical accuracy left

[@allbies]

Honestly do not think Aethelwulfs death was remotely the silliest part of the writing this series. Not everyone dies a heroic death that is expected. Yes it is just to further Alfred quickly but deaths happen and I felt emotional especially as he spoke to Judith. It doesn't take genius to write something as simple as a bee sting but it doesn't mean its bad writing to do so in my opinion.

[@UuzerName]

Oh this episode.........

[@kenaynay6011]

DarthNawaf my exact reaction when I saw they posted a vikings reaction.

[@garethlawton5278]

It’s unsure how King Æthelwulf died. He was first recorded when Ecbert fought a battle in 825 and he died in 858, leaving him what ever he was when he was fighting with his father +33. It’s possible he died to poor health as an ageing man. But he didn’t die in combat that’s for certain. My question is, if it was a bee sting and he was allergic, would people in 858 know what the cause of that was. I guess the lack of a recorded cause of death gave Micheal the easy way of offing him around the right time for the next part of the story.

[@garethlawton5278]

Notable to add that Æthelwulf was a charitable and good king. “His care continued after his death, for he left provisions in his will for his successors to provide food, drink and lodging for one poor man per tenth hide of cultivated land in the kingdom.”

[@krypjutsu129]

I don't see how they could possibly have hated Ivar 😂😂😂😂

[@anjajacobsen9739]

Alfred the Greate.... In history - a great king

[@Kyouraku2010]

The Frank's were on the way prior to the first battle.

[@Triskaan]

14:14 the perfect illustration of why, sometimes, the writing in Vikings is a massive wtf.

[@ms_scribbles]

Kind of like history...hint, hint.

[@Triskaan]

Yeah but I mostly refer to the way it's build up and executed in the show. :)

[@pcgaming4944]

Yeah Triskan that's what I mean.. but stormwolf just assumes it's because he didn't die in battle like a hero.

[@BhBc8f8]

Triskan He was a series regular and and a fan favorite and all they gave him was heart break the whole season and 2 scenes in the episode he dies. That's like Ragnar went hunting and accidentally fell into a pit of snakes. They didn't have to kill AeWolf that way, they chose to kill him that way. wtf

[@michaelmegson2778]

StormWolf except this show isnt all that historically accurate

[@0xDiegoR]

I always thought Aethelwulf's death was silly too. It looked like they needed to make him go away to advance the plot, but they didn't have an immediate threat nearby... or did they? Who would have thought a bee would bee his demise?

[@gena4ka]

Blind wave hallllooooo. People are asking in patreon for you to fix the next reaction video. There is issue. We are waiting :( Thank you in advance.

[@mandalor1810]

It's hilarious they dropped Shane for being so toxic when Eric and Aaron were so surprisingly toxic back then. The way they both talk about women in these shows is way worse than Shane saying whether he finds the women attractive or not.

[@Jordan.tic999]

For real. Calvin is the only one that doesn't make creepy, weird and down right disturbing comments

[@noodledogs]

im part of the 0.01% of viewers that dont give a flying flip abt historical accuracy. i wouldve preferred if Aethelwulf and Aethelred both died in a more fleshed out and impactful way so that Alfred is the only option to be king if the show wanted to quickly put him in the role. i'd have preferred that then these weird series of events.

[@redhood1680]

Season 5 of Vikings is like the season 7 of game of thrones. Amazing production with just lazy writing. I've noticed this pattern with shows the moment their budget increases they stop caring about making amazing storylines

[@jameshughes7946]

Red Hood Oh fuck that's the best comparison ever dude I couldn't agree more

[@omar_elattar.5865]

Red Hood I don’t agree that it’s on the level as Game of thrones season 7, it’s been way better. The first half of the season was amazing. I agree that the second half wasn’t as good but I still enjoyed it. Episodes 8 and 10 along with episode 3 are my 3 favourite in the season.

[@IsaiahTheFox]

Red Hood Well that's a fair comparison in a way, but for different reasons. Just as Vikings is stuck having to work and write through actual historic events (kind of) to get characters from A to B, Season 7 of GoT is stuck having to wrap up and work through more than one novels that haven't been released. I sympathize with the show runners on both.

[@jameshughes7946]

Lucimyr Strongly agree 👍

[@aubreycrowder3903]

Red Hood so fucking true

[@irenekari]

oh we are on this crapisode, yaaay...

[@TheLiamBrady1]

All hail Alfred the Great of Wessex

[@nita4079]

Disappointed sadness on Eric's face when Aethelwulf died is exactly how I felt haha. Season 5 is just littered with lazy writing so far.

[@pcgaming4944]

I agree, but then some people think it's the best yet.. so idek

[@ms_scribbles]

"Lazy writing" aka "not inventing shit that didn't happen in history just to make his death cooler to kiddies who need a glorious death in battle to feel excited."

[@pcgaming4944]

Nobody is saying he has to die in battle.. well i'm not at least. The writing has been weak in the 2nd half of S5 imo, which is why I haven't enjoyed it as much as the others. You don't like people who have a different opinion, do you?

[@grippingrope9937]

Imo the second half of 5A was meh at best, with this episode and the finale being just plain bad (well actually the finale was a pretty great character study but as a narrative it was awful). However the first half of 5A was fucking awesome, in fact I feel like the York arc on its own rivals Season's 2&3, but it was like the show completely changed writing staff after Episode 5. To make a really nerdy analogy, it felt like they swapped in George R.R. Martin for Terry Goodkind

[@pcgaming4944]

grippingrope99 from ep 1 I genuinely thought this would easily be the best season.. it was captured so well too.

[@Grottgreta]

NOT THE BEES

[@tren_d_man4670]

The series is just following instructions. Its all in the history books. Dont blame them too much.

[@LadyVenomWay]

I was mad how he died by a sting but it used to happen, still sucks!

[@Ali-ex8mt]

What do you want them to do in history no one knows when he dies or how

[@juyifan7933]

You would think that after this many seasons they were used to the time jumps. It should be obvious that Aethelwulf's death was not an alergic reaction, he contracted an illness for which the bugs were vectors and there was a time skip to his death.

[@AllieB-11.11]

Literally no fan of the show but you thinks this. He died of a bee sting.

[@M_G-zj9jw]

The last few episodes of this season were bullshit, it started so well.

[@ms_scribbles]

From the comments, I'm wondering if I should just skip this reaction. I kind of accept when people complain that something didn't happen in history, and the writers changed a historical event for drama, but I'm not sure I can handle people complaining about the writers NOT changing history because they think a death from a sudden illness isn't cool enough for their favorite "character".

[@Thackman87]

StormWolf don't skip the crew doesn't dwell on it so much

[@pcgaming4944]

@Thackman I mean.. they do as much as any of us tbh

[@M3rett0]

But Aethelwulf didn't die of a bee sting.

[@Thackman87]

Mertcan Bulak we don't know how he died except it wasn't in battle or old age. So most likely was illness

[@BhBc8f8]

StormWolf Sure because it would be really great story telling if Ragnar died of hypoxia in the coffin meant to trick the Franks and they all went back back to Kattegat to mourn. Yeah I'm sure that would do wonders for their ratings even if it did happen historically. Like if we wanted to know what actually happened we would just go on Wikipedia goddamit instead of paying for a TV subscription.

[@anjajacobsen9739]

Hail Alfred the Great. king of England.

[@ToxicJ12]

Who literally does nothing for 2 seasons

[@honeybbqwings2664]

Athelred historically was king before alfred

[@lunasongbird9586]

Come on Eric, there is such a things as an allergy to bee stings

[@aubreycrowder3903]

I wouldn’t say this season is the worst but I definitely wouldn’t say it’s the best. Some episodes were poorly written. The Bjorn desert story line was trash it could have been good but it wasn’t we all can agree. The hole Lagatha and the Bishop story line was trash. The Bjorn and salmi princess storyline was trash. The Floki story line was boring af. The great things about this season was the fight scenes except the fight scene in s5 ep5 where Ivar came out of the Gutters and the English just stood there like puppets. The Alfred story line along with the Aethelwulf storyline was great except Aethelwulf bull shit death scene. In conclusion it fells like Michael Hirst only wrote 50% of the script for season 5 and other people wrote the other half. I love Vikings but season5 so far is questionable for me.

[@kreehomel]

If there's going to be a replacement for Vikings' spot, I hope they'll go with something like Peaky Blinders or Broadchurch.

[@tbcalex]

I liked the death. The episode overall is pretty meh though.

[@omar_elattar.5865]

Tbc Alex How did you find 5a? People say it’s the worst season yet but I disagree. It’s my second favourite joint with season 3. Season 4b will probably always be my favourite.

[@pilzbier5271]

For me the only weird episode was 5x9, not because Atherlwulf dead was "too weak for him", but because the Alfred part felt so rushed. It felt like they must write Athelwulf fast out of the Story in order to make Alfred king so he can fight against Ivar in the next seasons. Also the "Paris-Stuff" was weird, in 5x8 Lagertha wins the battle, why do they wait and dont go to King Haralds town to finish them finally like Ivar will to it in the next episode probably? No, they wait like four weeks or something like this until Hvitserk travels from Kattegat to Paris and back. That part felt very rushed and not comprehensibly. Episode 6 & 7 werent bad I think they are slow, but they build up the story for the battle in 5x8. The final wasnt bad at all, okay "YoU CaNt hAvE viSiOnS oN tHE bAtTLeFieLd" is an agrument, but for me it worked and I'am fine with it, but that Ivar wins because of the plothole of the "Paris-Soldiers" is a thorn in my side. So besides 5x9 a solid season, with one of the greatest episode of the series (5x3) and the worst episode of the series (5x9).

[@wyattfrye8262]

U guys are going to hate next episode just a heads up

[@Chilicat1]

"Slave to the history", my arse. There were several kings after Athelwulf. And Athelred did not resign in favour of Alfred ffs

[@vinny3908]

king aethelwulf did die in real life from a bee sting and alfred was the next to rule.

[@connorboyle2585]

There is one episode a season where i think "Why the fuck am i still watching this" and then 9 good episodes around it.

[@fraydizs7302]

I literally threw my hands up in confusion at Aethelwulfs death...

[@loveoffilm4327]

I loved aethelwulfs death it was a pretty realistic death especially for such a great warrior and probably some religious symbolism there too

[@omar_elattar.5865]

I love Shane’s perspective on the show.

[@JS-ct3kr]

The mishandling of Aethelwulf's death is without a doubt the single most disappointing aspect of the entire series for me. I don't have a problem with the manner of his death. My problem is how incredibly lazy and rushed the lead up to his death was and all to service a subplot that as of right now I give precisely ZERO fucks about. They did my boy Aethelwulf dirty.

[@scottthomas4779]

I'm surprised that Eric didn't look up the history being represented here. Being stung by a bee is exactly how he died. Obviously I didn't know that till I saw this episode and then looked it up. Even before I knew that's how he died I thought it was poetic that a king was killed by something as simple as the sting of a bee.

[@omar_elattar.5865]

By the way, it doesn’t take 2 weeks to sail to Frankia. It would take them a week to get there and back.

[@BhBc8f8]

Omar_Elattar. Real world geography aside, Ubbe aged significantly the first time they went to Paris like years! 🤨

[@suncore598]

I think the reason why Alfred barely spoke this episode is that he's just overwhelmed by everything that has happened. And I've noticed Athelwulf was laughing after he got stung by the bee. He probably realized it meant his death and found the cause laughable after living the life of a warrior.

[@Horbach322]

It's cool to not make every death dramatic as fuck.

[@cloudspigtails8076]

I already knew Eric was going to whine about the death in this episode, hes so conditioned by those shitty teen soap operas from the CW that they forget that people, yes, even people considered of great importance also die by mundane things. ESPECIALLY in the past, when medicine and technology wasnt as advanced as it is today. People back in those days used to die from the common cold all the time. Allergic reactions as well. This show is based on real people. Sure they add a little hollywood here and there to make things entertaining, but its the details like this that remind you of actual history and how far we have come as a society. Hell, people still die today from allergic reactions. lol.

[@limepie3025]

I think Eric knows people die randomly sometimes, but it's a story. The point is to convey emotion to the audience, not show how people die. It's a lot more impactful if you follow a story than telling the audience "Hey, did you know people died of bee stings all the time in these times" and robbing all the emotion out of a death. And don't say it wasn't supposed to be emotional because the show clearly wanted emotion with Aethulwulf saying stuff like "The angels are already here".

[@davidsajigeorge]

They really did fuck up season 5, got too much money on production but the writing is awful. Rather have okay production and good writing like the previous seasons!

[@largatecabron5984]

The way they just killed of Athelwulf is just stupid. One of the greatest characters in the series and he gets that death? Why not kill him of in the battles and the fight against hvitserk? Bullshit

[@LoveriiNDeluXxE]

Because not everyone can die like freaking Ragnar lodbrok mate.

[@Folkmoot]

#teamivar

[@KnuxTube]

Athelwulf can now join the hall of those who were done dirty in Vikings along with the Moors and every Christian bishop that got their throat slit.

[@stuckmannen3876]

Atleast next episode is good :)

[@Nekotaku_TV]

Unless history accurate, Athelwulf dying from a damn bee was so dumb. And why would you swipe away a bee like that!? And burning down the temple, whoever did it, are they not pagan anymore? So stupid, and then just attacking the guy with the knife. Poor mom but good thing it was him who died and not the other guy. Show just keeps getting worse and worse since a long time ago. I'm only watching it to complete it, it's not really good. Also now I want that psycho Margaret gone. Now she just sees shit? And the bishop fell in love with Lagertha I guess. And WHY do you not pause when someone leaves!? Judith showed wisdom by not giving up on Alfred and saying it's God's will.

[@HuntMrPredator]

i loved the first half of Season 5 but hated the second one. It's really a shame because everything but the story and the writing felt like a step up.

[@hghregyerwtrtewtrrqewtqew1381]

Kinda feel like the golden era of tv is over. Game of thrones writing is super bad, viking went bad, westworld went bad, The walking dead went sour... huge tv phenomenons are crumblings. Especially now that AT&T acquired Time Warner, they said they need tos top niche shows and appeal to a bigger and braoder audience meanign HBO will now take less chances for niche titles (like they did with game of thrones and westworld) and concentrate more on shows that appeals to everyone.

[@Fordo007]

Success breeds arrogance. Tv shows need more executive meddling ironically. Some of the best stuff comes out of hardship and compromise. Giving shows blank checks for creators to do whatever they want... you end up like now.

[@j.f.l.bousquet1998]

Not at all, the golden era is far from over. You are just watching the wrong TV shows. There are dozens of other ones that are actually interesting: Legion, American Gods, Mindhunter, The good fight, Atlanta, Glow, Peaky Blinders, The americans, Billions, The good place,The Handmaid's Tale, The expanse... those are very interesting shows.

[@nvidiam4994]

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@omar_elattar.5865]

Wait. Aaron wanted Bjorn and Lagertha to attac Ivar whilst they’re weak. What he doesn’t understand is that they’re the ones who want to prevent the war, they don’t want to fight so obviously they’re not going attack Ivar and Harald.

[@aubreycrowder3903]

I thought the Aethelwulf death was Bull shit too.

[@p0p4]

The characters are based on real humans in history, that’s why he died to a bee sting i think.

[@Necron00b]

I never understand why people don't like Aethelwolfs death...this was a time where allergies were a huge killer, it's like people can't decide whether they want this to be a straight fantasy or a dramatisation of reality.

[@pcgaming4944]

The majority of people from my experience didn't mind how he died.. just how it was portrayed in the show

[@kriskelvin5775]

It's not the way he died, the problem it's that it was depicted in the dullest and most meaningless way.

[@jaimebergner]

I hate the way Aethelwulf was killed off

[@j.f.l.bousquet1998]

Seriously, people, calm your tits. "Vikings" is not a documentary, it's just a TV show vaguely INSPIRED by "true" historical events, norse legends and the imagination of the screenwriters. There are dozens of theories about how JFK was actually killed, and that just happened in 1963, you want "historical accuracy" about things that happened in the 9th century? Nobody knows exactly how Aethelwulf actually died but the only sure thing is that HE DID NOT DIE IN GLORIOUS BATTLE (sorry fanboys, that was the "cool" easy obviously dumb way to kill him). I loved the character and he was one of my favourites, it was sad to watch him die like this, but guess what: it makes sense. Life is not fair, he was a good person and a good king, but good people doesn't always get the good things they deserve. Let the showrunner and the writers do their job, and if the show is so unbearable to watch JUST DON'T WATCH IT ANYMORE. Nobody is forcing you to watch, I stopped watching countless TV shows because I thought the story wasn't interesting anymore.

[@freddefo1676]

The showrunner and the writers has become lazy and aren't doing their job well though. Are people not allowed to criticize the way the show has gone because it's not their job to make it? Don't you want good shows to stay good? Fans aren't angry just because of how terribly they handled Aethelwulfs death though, the writing became terrible in season 5. If enough people start to criticize shows that turn to shit then maybe future shows learn from it and wont face the same fate.

[@homeiswhereukeepurdealdoe]

can u BEElieve this shit?

[@omar_elattar.5865]

Can’t wait for next episode. One of the best episodes in the entire show in my opinion.

[@pcgaming4944]

yep they liked it

[@omar_elattar.5865]

PCGaming You’ve seen it. Lucky you haha. Did they like it a lot?

[@pcgaming4944]

yeah i'd say they did. It was a pretty great episode in fairness.

[@dallin14]

Shane is such a dork. I appreciate what he brings to the group but not once did he address any of Eric or Aaron's points of concern. He always danced around what he interpreted from the show and not from an unbiased point of view and true understanding of the writing or character motives. I truly appreciate and admire Eric's understanding of the writing and development of characters on most shows. Eric, you should just roll out a monthly video talking about movies. I would love hearing you break down screenplays, shots, acting, etc... Aaron and Calvin are great and contribute a well balanced perspective as well. Shane, I think, needs to base his opinions on what is projected on the screen and through dialogue, not through how he fills in the gap left open by bad writing. Also, slow down your speech down and let others finish talking. Too often does Calvin get talked over and we miss the opportunity to hear his unique perspective/understanding. Still love you guys and appreciate your content.