Vin Rock says they made millions from uncollected publishing checks during the pandemic

[@grinchoi1]

Dude on the left look like Posdnous from De La Soul.

[@thanx4askin]

Are you talking about Detox Jones?

[@grinchoi1]

@@thanx4askin the brother with the glasses sitting next to Vin.

[@cwhetstone1554]

Yes yes..I said the same thing

[@themiseducationoftheameric7407]

I thought it was him for a long second

[@CensorTube84]

I definitely thought it was him too lol

[@Parish197]

VIN was the reason ,things was good.He was very humble answering that question.

[@dmoney668]

Vin is so freaking underrated it annoys me He's phenomenal dude can flow as well as anyone

[@muslimbilal6765]

I agree with you 💯💪🏿 I been saying that for ever!!!

[@Mister75199]

Vinnie cool people, but can't rap, Treach wrote all his stuff

[@the4thtribe709]

@@Mister75199 thank you what the hell are they talking about because I thought is was known treach was writing his stuff.

[@TheoHuxtible]

Vin Rock is an amazing speaker & storyteller

[@frsomebodygottasayit5739]

This is why knowing the business is so important. This is why Unc Vin is so important to hip hop not just Naughty. Salute to the Queen and Shak. They need to offer a class.

[@DROPPNBOMBZ]

😂I like when BLACK PEOPLE STAND ON BUSINESS and GANGSTA WITH THE PAPERWORK

[@thanx4askin]

Us too! That paperwork was exceptional

[@arthurrobinson4644]

💯

[@ghanasoul]

No offense, but these guys were a LOT smarter than i thought they were. This makes me VERY proud. Vin is a very intelligent man. I love this clip.

[@TheJuarezG]

I'm from the deep south but i rock with Vinnie, glad to see him still out here moving around.

[@gollygee2385]

Vinnie look like the nicest dude that will KICK YOUR ASS😂😂😂

[@hevyonez97]

Since Day One...lol

[@tasmahmood1411]

He is mike Tyson’s cousin after all

[@bleeddablock7428]

Real talk 😂😂😂

[@BigHack4ya]

Love this podcast! Something fresh and yall let your guests finish answering the questions without cutting them off!

[@thanx4askin]

Glad you enjoy it! I hope you continue to watch the old and the new interviews we have coming up.

[@BigHack4ya]

@@thanx4askin yes indeed. I’m on it!

[@philliprhinehardt6268]

That is why u must learn about the music business as much as possible.

[@gottech5601]

East orange stand up I'm so proud of these dudes they from my hood shouts out to queen Latifah and Flava unit

[@thanx4askin]

New York can say what they want, but Jersey did the damn thing and they did it in stunning fashion. Salute to every rapper in New Jersey.

[@CCF_Christopher]

Good Story! VIN looks healthy! Good to see he’s doing great.

[@thanx4askin]

Yes, he's doing very well. We love him.

[@BLACKTREAT]

Vin is so ICONIC to me!

[@thanx4askin]

We feel the same way!!!!

[@MySaviorJesus7]

Uptown Anthem started fights in the club 💯 😂

[@thanx4askin]

I can see why. That track was like MOVE B***h from Ludacris 😂😂😂

[@DJaySplitSecond]

@@thanx4askinand Slam by Onyx lol real fights broke out at my high school lol

[@MySaviorJesus7]

@@DJaySplitSecond Nothing like the 90's!

[@roseamberzine5846]

He is very impressive and just gave a master class in just minutes.❤

[@bayboy1967]

Ask Sir Mixer a lot about baby got back. Dude getting paid off one song.

[@thanx4askin]

Crazy paid!!!!!

[@marcuslane3]

He gets paid off ER THANG....HE OWNS ALL HIS MASTERS I BELIEVE

[@thanx4askin]

That's so fire. A lot of artists dream of being in that situation

[@urbanflavorz]

Sir mix alot and vinnie were beefin. He was on mtv saying how they sampled and vinnie dissed him on hip hop hooray.

[@DJaySplitSecond]

@@urbanflavorzwhich verse?

[@TOMBSTONEWHISPERZ]

We like hearing the Naught By Nature history!

[@discoslice2205]

Love hearing when 90's rappers win!❤ special Ed story is sad😢

[@caciquevp]

Talk about a blessing!!!

[@thanx4askin]

Wayyyyyyyy up, I feel blessed!

[@lamartruth6601]

That's not a blessing. That's being on top of your stuff and handling business.

[@DJaySplitSecond]

Vin from my old area in NJ, he been had a business mind set!! Dude is smart how he got his money!!!

[@thanx4askin]

He was the really the brains behind the business side of things

[@mr.worldfree3333]

I just told my lawyer to email all of my past employers to see if I got some money left on the table.

[@thanx4askin]

As you should! There is always something that could be tightened up

[@suprememathematics9257]

😂😂

[@bramsb1672]

😂

[@Nikkyeshiva83]

Vin hasn't aged a day in 30 years. Got vampire genes.

[@LoneWolfHustle]

Stop lying to yourself 😅

[@muslimalmumin1]

That 10x multiple hit different

[@rm8344]

What's the science behind this?

[@thanx4askin]

Facts

[@thanx4askin]

Whatever the value of his catalog is worth, right now, in present time, you sell it for 10 times that value

[@bernardtalbert6729]

This is why you got to learn the business if you're an entertainer.

[@shallah7777]

Good business only leads to more good business Good stuff naughty by nature 👍🏽

[@hugh_jasso]

I met Naughty at a music shop in Dayton Ohio, Omega Music, i worked next door to. Had my demo in my pocket but i was too star struck to give it to em. 😔 But of all the emcess thay came through, all of Naughty was cool af. Love and Respect these guys.

[@Rob_Cash71]

Vinny was on point!!!!! Keep getting the bag my guys!!! Y'all earned it!!!!!!💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯

[@BaronSemediLive]

💡Lesson I got from this : If you are not up on business them J's will rob you.

[@leedza]

Vin talks like being a hustler on the streets makes you immune from being shafted, especially in that era when good information is hard to come by. They were blessed they had good mentors along way.

[@thanx4askin]

I see no lies told in this comment. To have The Queen behind you to help navigate things with you was such a blessing

[@zulusmith]

Nothing but love and respect, but what I'm hearing here is that they weren't keeping up with their royalties, if they were owed 12 years of money. Why don't they have someone managing and staying on top of that?

[@thanx4askin]

I, Detox Jones, was under the assumption that they assumed they were collecting royalties for all their work. However, when you slow down to a grind like we all did in the pandemic, you have enough time to focus on what's important

[@xoxxobob61]

Yeah Something seems off here. I'm a Songwriter & one of their SROs either BMI or ASCAP tracks things like this. If they have their own Publishing Company they're the ones who should have been tracking this. How did they not know that they weren't getting Royalties for 12 years?

[@Ukboss1]

​​@@xoxxobob61 exactly 12yrs don't sound like they are bussiness minded to me 😂 or maybe they knew and was letting it build up so they can get a lump sum

[@xoxxobob61]

@@Ukboss1 The problem with Lump Sum payouts is that the Gov't. taxes you at the highest rate instead of filing Income taxes yearly & allowing for itemization, deductions, etc. This was sloppy if non existent book keeping.

[@darylebarnes4300]

I absolutely enjoyed your podcast

[@thanx4askin]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope that you subscribed 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@Anttweezy]

Glad these brothas got paid. I just Jason black talking to lonzo from eve after dark about nwa’s inception and legal battles.

[@andrekirkland4209]

Vin needs to be a Profesor at a University teaching the Music Industry

[@HowardT1879]

Gotta know keep track of your business because no one else will.

[@BlackDrac82]

MC Serch has talked about the 35 year publishing rights rule, said that once it hits for The Cactus Album 3rd Bass are going to make bank. Gotta wonder after heading Vin whether a lot of artists are unaware of a lot of these things.

[@BKGEE21]

Happy for Naughty 🎉

[@thanx4askin]

So are we! They truly made it in a business that's so unforgiving

[@ST8URCASE]

Vinnies' grin @ 2:15 says it all.

[@KARMASZS]

STETSONIC !!! ON FIRE !!!

[@thanx4askin]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@MichaelJohnson-yh3cj]

That's what up VinRock

[@thanx4askin]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Mindbodyandspirit240]

Respect!💯🤘🏾

[@thanx4askin]

Respect to you as well Bro

[@zeagazetotsiyon2942]

I always love Vin Rock. On point !!!!!! Get yo bag & handle that B.I. !!!!!!!!

[@brentoniverson1020]

V intelligent AF. Great info yo. Heads up...Prowess not Prowless

[@keljax4899]

Vin was on his business from the jump.

[@thanx4askin]

That's a fact

[@biggmixxo]

Y wouldn't your attorney tell u to check that publishing? & to the shady publishing companies, y didn't they call u guys? They will just let millions sit there in publishing royalties!😮🤔🤔👀. But I've never heard 1 white artist say publicly that they had publishing issues.

[@thanx4askin]

I think a lot of people are embarrassed to talk about their financial situation and be honest about what's happening in their lives. We praise Vin Rock for conveying such stories like this.

[@clarenceoverstreet882]

Paul McCartney sued to disband The Beatles due to royalty theft and mismanagement. It happens across every genre, but hip-hop was different because EVERYBODY was eating except the artists.

[@thanx4askin]

That's so f*€ked up that black people get the short end of the stick every time

[@edg456]

Don't make the mistake of assuming this was a race thing. The industry has been screwing songwriters since day one. You have to consider that very few megastars wrote their own music, so the people most affected by the publishing are behind the scenes and haven't had as much leverage or resources to fight for their just due. The stories are out there, but they have mostly gone under the radar since songwriters generally aren't household names.

[@k.a.williams9290]

​@thanx4askin It's not black, this has happened to major groups from the Beatles, Rolling Stone, Elvis Presley.

[@alexrivera4598]

I HOPE HE SHARES IT WITH HIS BROTHER SPLIFF STARR

[@thanx4askin]

💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@liukang3479]

I love success stories

[@thanx4askin]

So do we! Not so bad for three New Jersey kids from the hood, right?

[@zelbongrimmage3770]

Im so happy for you all

[@Themonkeychunkspunk]

2:12 JACKPOT!

[@press3048]

Maybe I'm tripping but when did he change his name from Vinne to Vin Rock?

[@danielx8]

He doesn't mention Treach much

[@joshuailyas6139]

I was thinking the same thing, shit I was like he knows all these stories

[@honestjaye8229]

We need another naughty by nature album

[@thanx4askin]

Agreed 💯

[@tujessie1258]

Vin, Mrs Scales would be proud of y’all.

[@frozentundra7446]

Reading is fundamental - read your contracts (or hire an attorney) before signing!!!

[@roseamberzine5846]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@the4thtribe709]

Who wrote and produced the naughty by nature songs, because he’s using the word our, and as far as I know, treach was writing the songs , and the other guy was producing i.e. doing the beatss

[@josephforrester6205]

Uncle vinny dropping jewels

[@thanx4askin]

That's a fact. And those Jews are priceless

[@mrelmjr.2137]

Yeees!! Good business

[@saj8]

Told folks a long time ago that Flavor Unit was a black hole management company.

[@Igotouhere]

They will tell you anything so they keep your money!!! Act like it’s your fault for not knowing! Without reparations doing business with those type companies is redundant!

[@thanx4askin]

That's a very, very astute point that you made.

[@jaypaladin-havesmartswilll5508]

I’m very happy the group finally did their due diligence with their publishing but why were those guys clapping? Listen carefully, he didn’t get all of the money that was owed.

[@yasinradee]

4th of July should be crazy this year. #illtown

[@miamiwax5504]

I miss NY being the center of rap and hip hop. It's a real shame it's not really popping up there any more.

[@thanx4askin]

I don't think no region has complete dominance anymore but I do miss when the East Coast was the place to be. We have a huge resurgence with Drill music out here now though

[@mustafael-amin9163]

Yo Vin,have you checked to see if they shaved some icing and replaced it back knowing y’all could ask for it at any time…cuz They could’ve taken some royalties,and leveraged it for something and replaced what they initially took.And they could’ve taken what they shaved and flipped it (the street way too) and put it in stocks .Check on that too cuz that might yield wayyyyyy more!

[@thanx4askin]

I'm sure that's exactly what they do. Take that money and the interest and use that to invest it in other projects

[@FLAVMEDIA]

Salute iLL TOWN:))

[@thanx4askin]

ILL TOWN is legendary 🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@errolneal9789]

They were collecting interest on that money

[@thanx4askin]

Yes!

[@VINCENTSCURRY-mt5cf]

💯🍾❤️

[@divinedamon921]

🤔😯🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@thanx4askin]

Thank you Bro 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@divinedamon921]

The content is official 🎯💯💯💯💯

[@divinedamon921]

@@thanx4askin 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@lovemeever-bh7ob]

🙏🏽👑🦾

[@dwaynelee1789]

Vin stayed on business which is great. Congrats to Naughty highly underrated group. Great interview !!!

[@rodinowright6591]

How he stay on business if he didn't get a check for 12 years????

[@joseyeastwood]

They count on artist not paying attention to their finances whenever i hear an old ass song in a movie or commercial i always wonder who got paid to use that music the majority of the time it is not the person who actually wrote it.

[@jakelong6860]

This is why you guys need to go to business school and learn.

[@acedavis4369]

Heads up yes you get it back after 30yrs but you have to put in for it on the 28th year to do so 🤔

[@thanx4askin]

You sound very knowledgeable about the game

[@atlemartoresonfjeldstad4557]

But Vin didn`t write any lyrics? I know you get royalties for vocal performance but that doesn`t make a big percentage..

[@cyyrious]

Are the guys in the audience in wheelchairs? Or are those just adjustable desk chairs?

[@thanx4askin]

No, those are barbershop chairs where you get haircuts lol

[@cyyrious]

Ok I’m sorry it kept flashing i couldn’t see it long enough …I was like 🤔

[@cyyrious]

School em’ Vinn

[@thanx4askin]

Class is in session

[@ericwright2594]

illtown

[@thanx4askin]

That's a fact 🫡🫡🫡

[@Lamar114]

Vin don’t got no neck😅

[@thanx4askin]

🤣🤣🤣

[@deshannonjames981]

Not trying to be funny or look at another man's pockets but publishing is 50% to who makes the beat, 50% to who writes the lyrics. KG did the tracks. Treach wrote all the verses. How does Vin get publishing? Maybe he wrote a lot of the hooks.

[@Ukboss1]

Alot of the times groups have certain splits so if like guy that started the group and owns the name he will get a piece of publishing even if he don't write or produce because he owns the group I have seen that many times

[@thedarksideoftheforce6658]

He mentioned it. It's a percentage.

[@Ukboss1]

@@thedarksideoftheforce6658 yes

[@MrEclay2]

Ching Ching 💰💰💰💰💰

[@thanx4askin]

During the pandemic, when everyone was crying broke, nonetheless. 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@mob1662]

This is story I love hearing about with all the shady ish in the music business. Especially from the legends in the game 💯✊🏾🫡

[@thanx4askin]

We love hearing stories like this too