Rap Nihilism: What Vince Staples Is Telling Us

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KAZMALOOP

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Examining the music and philosophy of rapper Vince Staples.
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@estevesmartins7935
@estevesmartins7935 11 ай бұрын
“How do you convince yourself that it’s ok to live in poverty?”:- that quote is as powerful as it gets.
@_donjose
@_donjose 11 ай бұрын
This shit hits different when you come from south central LA 💯
@sandbox7388
@sandbox7388 10 ай бұрын
true
@luyandanene6364
@luyandanene6364 9 ай бұрын
@@_donjose not only South central LA . I've listened to Vince since 2013 through Earl and I can firmly say this , because I'm in South Africa 🇿🇦 and that question is a cut and clear and deep as it gets because it's right there
@gotjuice9
@gotjuice9 Жыл бұрын
"Summertime, '06" was Vince at his most seemingly nihilistic, but "Ramona Park Broke My Heart" kinda shows that was a facade.. a mask to disguise the hidden pain and tears of a "Stolen Youth." It's warm and nostalgic. Vince is definitely cynical, but he has a moral center. A drill rapper, he is not.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Great comment thank you. I completely agree regarding his moral center. I believe that the quote from Nietzsche is used to describe the one who can live morally, despite the immorality around him, as ubermensche. A drill rapper is one consumed by the abyss, not one who has overcome it like Staples
@talkwordy3065
@talkwordy3065 Жыл бұрын
@@kazmaloop Honestly fuck Nietzche as this point. Stirner and Novatore are the better demonstrations of nihilism.
@TheZademann
@TheZademann Жыл бұрын
You can have morals and be a nihlist. Nihlism can be viewed as believing that the universe does not care. In an uncaring world, people can still help each other or hurt each other.
@alexisgomez4996
@alexisgomez4996 Жыл бұрын
Listen to shyne cold chain 1
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
@@TheZademann nihilism bases itself on the idea that there are no moral principles. Nietzsche was grappling with the fact that if this is the case how do we live justly. Many people don’t know what it means to truly live without the belief in moral value. Most people grow up with the religious framework even if they’re irreligious. I think children who grow in the harsh reality painted by Staples and can still be kind are those beacons of hope.
@tombstonejones9581
@tombstonejones9581 Жыл бұрын
Vince Staples is the funniest and most honest voice in hip hop imo, he could be Kendrick big but he chooses his level of fame and involvement within hip hop. Dude is one of a kind.
@clementinelives
@clementinelives Жыл бұрын
His decision to be extremely laid back is respectable
@cavemanouttheeast2786
@cavemanouttheeast2786 Жыл бұрын
Na fam😂
@lochofmceo
@lochofmceo Жыл бұрын
No he wants commercial success.
@jameztheartist3893
@jameztheartist3893 Жыл бұрын
Nobody "chooses their fame"
@lochofmceo
@lochofmceo Жыл бұрын
@@jameztheartist3893 you can choose to not be famous, but you can’t choose to be famous
@roninunrefined1637
@roninunrefined1637 Жыл бұрын
Vince is like the intelligence and black understanding of Huey mixed with the humor and bravado of Riley from the Boondocks. He’s essentially like both of their best traits molded into one dude.
@commonaffection1703
@commonaffection1703 Жыл бұрын
Omg yes. I was just thinking that.
@mikefraziermusic
@mikefraziermusic Жыл бұрын
Incredible comparison
@IronKore
@IronKore 11 ай бұрын
FU-sion!!! Huh!
@deadmanperipherals
@deadmanperipherals 11 ай бұрын
true shit
@MrColdwilliam
@MrColdwilliam 11 ай бұрын
Vince would make an EXCELLENT Boondocks character
@JStack
@JStack Жыл бұрын
I hate fake rap. Drake talking about bullets, gang members talking about club life or bitches. Depressed dudes tryna sound happy, happy tryna sound depressed. Vince’s music is honest and direct, and I love how music changes with the artist.
@koldheartedbam1064
@koldheartedbam1064 11 ай бұрын
Drake is a “the lover” archetype not a “rebel” he makes lover boi type music
@Thehuskyspam
@Thehuskyspam 11 ай бұрын
Even though its not rap I’ve always felt that “happy tryna be depressed” about Billie Ellish music. Theres a clear difference between someone happy making depressed music and a depressed person making depressed music
@Yerocco
@Yerocco 10 ай бұрын
@@koldheartedbam1064he definitely dissed xxx. He definitely does gun bars. His media music is lovey. But he acts like a gangster even though he high key fruity.
@Nellz31593
@Nellz31593 Жыл бұрын
Powerful. I feel like people won't truly appreciate his voice until he's gone . Mfs be addicted to a death culture unfortunately.
@dboyedoe
@dboyedoe Жыл бұрын
That's gonna be a LONG time in that case. Vince is gonna die an old ass man after living a full life.
@claysoggyfries
@claysoggyfries Жыл бұрын
I’m sad that it happened to MF Doom. I loved his music
@Nellz31593
@Nellz31593 Жыл бұрын
@@dboyedoe facts. Just hope the masses wll give him his flowers before then🤞
@bluewave3417
@bluewave3417 Жыл бұрын
Those people aren't worth impressing. On a certain level Hip Hop fans need to look at themselves. At some point the best and most talented will find other genres of art to express that talent. Because increasingly Hip Hop and its fans don't deserve the best and most talented artists anymore.
@35jfg35
@35jfg35 Жыл бұрын
​@@bluewave3417 who are you to judge? Seriously get off your High Horse and Let people Grow into Music naturally.
@odpopcorn586
@odpopcorn586 Жыл бұрын
People like Vince don’t want you to idolise him, only wants you to do you.
@Diggi1027
@Diggi1027 Жыл бұрын
Being from Norfside Long Beach I went to Jordan high school and I used to battle rap at Houghton Park and skateboard. He sound EXACTLY like most dudes from L.A. grow up. Rather they are from Watts, Compton, Or Long Beach. Most dudes are just regular guys who get caught up in Gang life style. For me my whole family is from Grape street. But I don't gang bang, But you cant tell my homies that. Everything this dude raps I relate to in every aspect. And shout out to Vince for being successful and from Norfside for real because it is not many who have this platform from that area on Artesia and Atlantic Blvd. specifically.
@yurinoworry
@yurinoworry Жыл бұрын
Hit the corner, make a dollar, flip it
@SaveItForTheLost
@SaveItForTheLost Жыл бұрын
Don't know how old you are but I went to Jordan too. Was tuff at Jordan because there were not many white kids at that school and I alway felt unwelcome. Grew up in a house across the street from DeForest Park. My experiences are different, no doubt from yours but I feel what you are saying. I now live in a state that is vastly different from where I grew up but I enjoy being able to see life outside of Cali. Believe it or not, I didn't get into Rap music until I moved to a conservative state... it really unites people. Makes your head explode, huh? Much love.
@HibariSama
@HibariSama Жыл бұрын
And the unfortunate truth is, what Vince speaks about isn't even a solely unique experience onto himself, his songs are a reality for many, MANY black people all over the country. Some people wonder why he and so many other people who had similar upbringings have this "it is what it is" attitude to life, but if you had to experience the reality of gang violence and poverty from a young age, you would be the same. You don't have to like it, but that IS the reality. It IS what it is, whether or not we want it to be. Great video man.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very thoughtful comment. I tried to capture that exact sentiment you’re talking about. Vince is the embodiment of this feeling but he’s also a beacon of hope I think. You can make it out the other side but you have to grapple with it first.
@HibariSama
@HibariSama Жыл бұрын
@@kazmaloop I think you did a great job of capturing that feeling of hope Vince gives off. He's definitely an example of what you can achieve, even in the face of adversity and coming from a harsh environment.
@osas5211
@osas5211 Жыл бұрын
Accountability
@noneofyourbusiness1114
@noneofyourbusiness1114 Жыл бұрын
Just black people? Lmao.
@jlear1581
@jlear1581 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbusiness1114 sorry to inform u but bro ur illiterate😭🙏
@SuperVerseman
@SuperVerseman Жыл бұрын
Man I can relate. I tell my wife I had a good two three-year run of fighting everyday. You be tired. Tired of looking behind you. Physically tired from fighting. Mentally exhausted from always being in survival mode, or even a defensive mode.
@TheTriangleOffense47
@TheTriangleOffense47 Жыл бұрын
I know Vince will have a longstanding career in many different mediums but Vince has one of the most dynamic discographies in hip hop and I just know it won’t be appreciated until much later.
@nevaehlheaven
@nevaehlheaven Жыл бұрын
He deserves a forehead kiss. All these rappers all these children. Their lives really have become entertainment. Entertainment a good chunk of the population are unwilling to change. But with that being said, if you got to move. If you got to cut off everything you knew before just so you can keep your mental health and connection with God. Just so you can have peace so be it.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Beautifully put, thank you for watching
@iamTrippedouT
@iamTrippedouT Жыл бұрын
Vince is a great actor, him and Zack Fox are hilarious in Abbot. I can't wait for his new Netflix show he produced.
@nianayay
@nianayay Жыл бұрын
That was beautifully done. Thank you for no gimmicks and a relaxed journey through the topic.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bdot2324
@bdot2324 11 ай бұрын
I wish so many people didnt miss the purpose of this video. It’s great y’all are complementing him. But a ton of ppl see trauma from communities and almost treat it like a movie. Once the show is over they get to leave, live, and continue their lives. While it’s real day to day life for others. Then you ask those people what type of humanity is that…
@CrazyChillDog
@CrazyChillDog 10 ай бұрын
Minstel shows never disappeared, they just evolved to a point of being unrecognizable and accepted by society.
@louaista
@louaista Жыл бұрын
wow great video. i love vince staples. so real, so funny, and his music and lyrics are real.
@3d1k3
@3d1k3 Жыл бұрын
If Vince dropped an hour long interview or an hour long album.....I'm copping the interview. I say that as a person who still buys music and enjoy Vince's music. Music limits his expression. I wish he had a producer he could work with to craft one single body of work that best captured his mind and then he can move on to the bigger work he's here to do. in my opinion. He's as eloquent and potent and poignant as Pac and Nip. That's good bad company. Get him out of LA and out of Hip Hop and somewhere else where he can keep impacting the world.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
110%
@zephaniahmcdaniels
@zephaniahmcdaniels Жыл бұрын
He's getting closer to it. I think he could do it with Kenny Beats but they would have to really hunker down
@kangzchan5253
@kangzchan5253 Жыл бұрын
“I don’t give a fuck what your going threw, what you gotta do… I need bars sixteen of em.”-Vince Staples
@Dietghostscp2107
@Dietghostscp2107 Жыл бұрын
Nice Earl reference.
@suhndoo
@suhndoo Жыл бұрын
im too fuckin busy tryna get this album crackin’
@Emonkey12345
@Emonkey12345 Жыл бұрын
What immediately drew me in to Vinces music was his way of rapping. His lyrics contain things that wider society would consider abhorrent but he says it all so matter of factly. Really gives insight about the experiences he's had growing up.
@AjaxDGonzo
@AjaxDGonzo Жыл бұрын
I think Vince’s best example of this artistically, was his album big fish. That self titled track off the album had so many great metaphors about being a big fish in a little pond. Both a braggadocios and humble statement. And he finally gave us “crabs in a bucket” another great metaphor he’s referenced a few times before. Seniorita also really spoke on what he was saying as far as “ what’s an action movie without an explosion?”
@rayneozier
@rayneozier Жыл бұрын
Vince is such a talented person. His pen game is as nice as virtually anyone. Since DOOM is gone now Vince might be “your favorite rapper’s favorite rapper”.
@Chuchbaby
@Chuchbaby Жыл бұрын
Facts R. I. P MF DOOM
@dawsonmaclean2038
@dawsonmaclean2038 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to toss Earl Sweatshirt in the ring for that crown, but Vince is cold with it for sure.
@lostone1677
@lostone1677 Жыл бұрын
Mach-Hommy and Vince will be something spooky.. Their art definitely mesh with one another.
@rayneozier
@rayneozier Жыл бұрын
@@dawsonmaclean2038 I love Earl too he’s a dog. I love when him and Vince collab.
@dawsonmaclean2038
@dawsonmaclean2038 Жыл бұрын
@not a human no he isn’t. My favourite rappers favourite rapper was DOOM. RIP to the king.
@backsgl
@backsgl Жыл бұрын
FM was a great expression of this premise. Yeah, you white kids in the burbs hear the bangers and the flows and the hooks. But when things actually get real? When people actually start tweaking? You turn the dial. You switch stations. It's done before you even realize it. The trauma, the pain, the folks he's lost, and the broken systems that either caused, don't care about, or actively exploit this situation, all of it is always in the frame, but never actually in the framing. Very key distinction. Excellent video, my dude.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you and great comment.
@nyshyn307
@nyshyn307 Жыл бұрын
I love Vince for how he's able to accurately depict the mindset and struggles of someone within his lifestyle while remaining human. The way he balances becoming part of the danger while reminding you his reality is fucked up is brilliant to say the least. He's one of the only artists whose work I see as accurate, not only to the greater picture but to himself and what he seems to have been through
@kaiyote7924
@kaiyote7924 Жыл бұрын
im so happy to watch this video. ive always had a mixed feeling about rap going all the way back to biggie/tupac. i love that black artists get to tell their story and talk about these real things that happened in their community. its real, its raw and its needed. but additionally i noticed post 2000s as rap and hip hop really became mainstream, the media curators of rap always wantef to glamorize these unspeakable hardships, they claim that it is necessary to be legitimate as an artist and on top of it create a cycle of inspiring young children not to make art but to perpetuate the cycle of violence because its marked as a necessary backround check to make this form of art... glamorizing it even. just how hard drugs are being used to escape the crushing hardship when picking up and moving out isnt a viable option, in the case of purple haze and lean; young kids are treating it like a background check and some of these aspiring artists are dyinging young to sell and commodify their trauma. theres even been the rise of these white upperclass soundcloud rappers who lived perfectly good and well off childhoods who then attempt to almost parody and act like these impoverished hardships are just a selectable character traits that they can pluck out of inner city culture and mime/clown for profit. and im not sure whats worse; those who went through it and are treating it like some great thing that made them better despite the friends who didnt make it, who dont get to lyricize their side, seemingly forgotton. to "flex" the life that took so much... or the pantomime of artist who have never lived that experience and their parroted promotion of its themes are a faulty and offensively warped characterization of what they "think" living that life entails.... and how both cases are selling it with half truths.
@trigahapy147
@trigahapy147 Жыл бұрын
Damn this is a high quality video essay. You deserve 100x more subs
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated and more to come.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud Жыл бұрын
Facts, I stop fugkn with Hip Hop & Hip Hop related News since D.J Akademics and Gangsta Rap Years & Years ago.. This was refreshing
@4nthemorning
@4nthemorning Жыл бұрын
Most of us that are from Southern Cali zip codes know exactly how easy it is to conform to the environment for protection or doing whatever we gotta do to escape those circumstances. Excellent vid 🏆
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words & watching!
@FerrariTeddy
@FerrariTeddy Жыл бұрын
Everybody wants to condemn and label people, but nobody wants to understand how children turn into ‘murderers’. How can you try to help people if you don’t want to understand the problem? Like you said, it’s so easy for “at risk youths” to fall into that lifestyle for protection or as a way out. It’s easy to say “don’t join a gang” from the suburbs, but what about when you’re a child all alone in this world having to deal with extreme violence every day? Children get robbed and beaten just trying to go to school, some of them get killed just going to the store for their family.
@PullOverItsDaPopo
@PullOverItsDaPopo Жыл бұрын
@@FerrariTeddy very sad but true it starts with the parents monitoring their kids, no one should be letting their kids walk by themselves in those territories, but when your parents are messed up themselves there's really no escape of trauma.
@mihlaligiba
@mihlaligiba Жыл бұрын
Vince so blunt it's uncomfortable for some people
@stefanroche3052
@stefanroche3052 Жыл бұрын
“We just have to know more about each other before we speak on each other”
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Simple as that
@namenlosNamenlos
@namenlosNamenlos Жыл бұрын
💯
@MarioJeremiahSolis956
@MarioJeremiahSolis956 Жыл бұрын
Vince really the shikamaru of rap😭🙏🏽
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Accurate, this vibe really drags
@vincentkealy
@vincentkealy Жыл бұрын
How the hell does this channel have so little subs, when this mindless garbage today is just slaying? Dude, please keep this up. This is art; this is beautiful. Well done, my brother.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words bro means a lot
@DarkshadowXD63
@DarkshadowXD63 Жыл бұрын
I remember my English professor a white dude from North Carolina put me onto Vince Staples and man dude can really spit
@rickrizzle423
@rickrizzle423 Жыл бұрын
Theres a this clip is when he said that people dont gove gifts to be kind, they do it just to please their own egos. Look at how they react when they give you something. Mind blown!🤯🤯🤯🤯
@ramadhan1481
@ramadhan1481 Жыл бұрын
how they react?
@tomwilko7841
@tomwilko7841 Жыл бұрын
He cool but he ain't inventing 'Indian giving' its a fully accepted human behavior since time began
@joncliffmckinley5868
@joncliffmckinley5868 Жыл бұрын
@@tomwilko7841 thats not "Indian giving" - the term was for giving gifts and then taking them back
@pelonmartinez579
@pelonmartinez579 Жыл бұрын
Dope ass video. You managed to delve even deeper into the mind of an already profound Vince Staples. Got my sub.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you means a lot. I do all sorts of essays so stay tuned!
@Swaggattack71
@Swaggattack71 Жыл бұрын
Some people find inspiration in the flashy look at me shit but Vince has always inspired me bc he just wants to stay out the way, live a relatively normal life, and take care of his people. That’s something realistic that everyone can relate to. Vince has been one of my favorite rappers since I was a freshman in high school. I’m 25 now and I still find inspiration in the profound things he says in his lyrics and interviews. My favorite is the NPR mic check interview he did with Earl in 2015.
@anthonyz.9616
@anthonyz.9616 Жыл бұрын
I remember in the XXL cypher I didn’t know him and his part made me a fan instantly especially when he was talking bout his homie and said “and Jesus couldn’t save him so I barley believe” sadly relatable
@anthonyz.9616
@anthonyz.9616 Жыл бұрын
@Kingdom House because when your immediate environment is darkness and hopelessness it can be hard not to follow, im not saying it’s right im just saying kids are their environment to a certain extent
@rasputin2k851
@rasputin2k851 Жыл бұрын
@Kingdom House because anyone who causes the innocent to suffer unjustly is not almighty. They're a p.o.s and so is anyone defending them
@rasputin2k851
@rasputin2k851 Жыл бұрын
@Kingdom House well evil is a pretty bad creation. If you think that's worthy of worship good for you. I think it's pathetic
@DedicatedSpirit8
@DedicatedSpirit8 Жыл бұрын
There's a reason the late great Mac Miller saw something in him.
@QNPMEDIA
@QNPMEDIA Жыл бұрын
Yuck
@DedicatedSpirit8
@DedicatedSpirit8 Жыл бұрын
@@QNPMEDIA GEEZE.. WOAH
@yellowbones
@yellowbones Жыл бұрын
Vince Staples is definitely at the extreme end of a definition of a "REAL ONE" in this genre
@kevingordon8750
@kevingordon8750 Жыл бұрын
Dog, this was a seriously well edited, researched, and narrated video!! Thank you!!
@djdoobie42
@djdoobie42 Жыл бұрын
Always believe that Vince and Lupe are the smartest rappers out there
@sourcr3357
@sourcr3357 Жыл бұрын
Facts, my two favorite rappers right now. Lupe is my GOAT too
@h.m.5724
@h.m.5724 Жыл бұрын
I would say K-Rino is
@dharris5887
@dharris5887 Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t ashamed being from the ghetto and I didn’t make it my personality, I believe my mother raised me right in standing up for others and being happy with what you got
@ChrisKash815
@ChrisKash815 Жыл бұрын
I was already a VS fan but this video has made an impact on my mental. I always knew he rap different but I didn’t draw the complete conclusion. The way he thinks should b studied socially, by everyone jus for them to see it jus because u see and b immersed n a world doesn’t mean u can’t grow out of it n take as many people as you can with you to a better place. Shout to da boi, Vince Staples
@Taytay_79
@Taytay_79 Жыл бұрын
I have been saying this ever since Gangster rap started. A shame our kids are suffering for what our parents thought was so cool.
@hostilesavage4299
@hostilesavage4299 Жыл бұрын
Shut yo yapp clown lol
@millhousemillard2140
@millhousemillard2140 Жыл бұрын
You know gangster rap came from the society the grandparents came up in and those adults as kids dealt with???? Its the government's fault and society as a whole. Gangster rap didnt just start from nowhere
@pyromaniacforhire
@pyromaniacforhire Жыл бұрын
@@millhousemillard2140 THIS!
@iGOReuro
@iGOReuro Жыл бұрын
Consistent with his words and hides NOTHING from the masses. This is why I fw Vince Staples.
@postmalonalisa420
@postmalonalisa420 Жыл бұрын
Vince knows. Work for yourself. Improve for yourself. Learn for yourself. You really have everything to blame and everything to gain by yourself. Everything else falls in place.
@WetbackNoSetback
@WetbackNoSetback Жыл бұрын
I hate that we recognize people as intelligent because they can observe & analyze reality, it’s evident for all of us, except for the ones who say we smart, they ain’t paying attention at all thats why they caught by surprise when we tell them how it is
@allistertenpenny6871
@allistertenpenny6871 Жыл бұрын
A part of me feels like Schoolboy Q's music is similar to Vince's. A lot of his songs talk about street and gang shit but its done in a manner where it feels ominous. Like you dont feel like its being glorified. Instead its being portrayed as being evil almost. Idk maybe im wrong.
@lilachie
@lilachie Жыл бұрын
The Odd future family tree showed that there's a different way
@ceaaba2918
@ceaaba2918 Жыл бұрын
The hypnotized instrumental had me dying man. Indepth vocabulary and elaborations with "booty keep bumping, bouncing up n down repeating in my head. lol
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Lool yo that riff is just so good, that’s not the image I want to paint though
@slimeyooo5778
@slimeyooo5778 Жыл бұрын
4:15 mans truly felt every emotion while he was sayin his name (( Jabari ))
@JRoss911
@JRoss911 Жыл бұрын
Vince represents the fact that no matter who you are in whatever circumstances at the time, there's always basic human needs, insecurities, and interest that influence our decisions. He's an anthropologist analyzing his own childhood as if it was a science experiment. His lyrics are filled with theories, observations, and contradictions of the human experience. It's ashame more people aren't acknowledging his genius. Especially other kids going through the exact same things.
@versacepapi3563
@versacepapi3563 9 ай бұрын
This comment needs to be pinned fr…💯❤️
@ariellawrence3752
@ariellawrence3752 10 ай бұрын
The expectation that black people’s lives be valued as entertaining trauma is the central argument to my dissertation. Lol. The smile across my face running across this random video essay. Love it.
@oluwatobaajani1379
@oluwatobaajani1379 Жыл бұрын
This was a good video. Very well explained. I think Jean Baudrillard's theory of hyperrealism fits the narrative Vince describes with regards to the fan who consumes black trauma content for pleasure without any actual interaction with the content.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Check out my Nope Video for that discussion
@desoulate4765
@desoulate4765 Жыл бұрын
Damn dawg, in my head I regard bro as a Top 100 Rapper, Top 50 even fisho. Greatest of the greats! It’s just weird you seemingly sometimes forget bro out here, not in no typa disrespectful way, just cause he’s not in the center focus of conversation. It’s easy to remember a Big or a Pac, a Kendrick or Cole, a Jay or a Nas, a Em or a Wayne? Y’all probly get it, just these larger than life characters. But EASILY a Earl or Vince or a Capitol Steez or a Big L all deserve to be brought up in those same conversations of greats. I could easily see any of them on a track with them bigger MC’s, keepin up & all. I be wishing to someday see them cross paths on a record.
@Estebancito85
@Estebancito85 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how we know why they make they make music and we still listen to it and don't do nothing about it but continue to kill each other
@r.p.5903
@r.p.5903 Жыл бұрын
#programming
@jackofallfades2656
@jackofallfades2656 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Vince sees with clarity and is able to earnestly translate it to reach a large crowd(genius shit), maybe the only honest rap voice with that much exposure. But also Google is listening to me. This video got recommended 20hrs after explaining to someone the embrace of hedonistic nihilism in Yeat and Carti, in contrast to billy woods et. al. recognition of nihilism while using art to keep head above water.
@vau_st
@vau_st 11 ай бұрын
I have a heart full of love for vince. I'm thankful for the influence he chose to be.
@MarquisAlley
@MarquisAlley Жыл бұрын
Vince is a legend and the world will see it soon…he never cap to his supporters
@SolViewStudios
@SolViewStudios Жыл бұрын
This was masterfully crafted! Had my attention every second, even replayed it! Thank you for this
@notsoberoveranalyzer8264
@notsoberoveranalyzer8264 Жыл бұрын
Reading the comments, so many to confuse nihilism with apathy. They are two, very very very different things. They’re not synonymous.
@numvrcgreenvilleent1892
@numvrcgreenvilleent1892 11 ай бұрын
I hope Vince knows when these folks' "compliment" him on his intellect and thought processing, they are insulting him. He speaks the obvious and is very logical in his approach. that only says everyone else is cowards and/ or dumb.
@gardenoflaina
@gardenoflaina 10 ай бұрын
Huh??? Lol i dont agree. This is silly.
@KingDavidTBE
@KingDavidTBE 10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of lupe fiasco in a sense Never listened to a vince staples song(felt like kendrick already had the good kid in a maad city thing ) lol but always watched his interviews Love his insight ,happy i took time to watch this video Great job!
@lPanicSinisterl
@lPanicSinisterl 9 ай бұрын
I love hip-hop, but while I grew up poor, I was never gang affiliated or around gang violence and I feel sometimes that I’m consuming these people tragedies as entertainment and it weighs on me. The industry really does “sell trauma” as Vince put so well. It’s a weird dynamic between artist and listener. I think there’s something in being aware that these are people’s lives, but being aware doesn’t change the fact these record labels profit off the stories of the impoverished. It’s just another example of the poor being used as entertainment for society and knowing I’m perpetuating that gives me conflicting feelings. Vince really is an amazing mind in hip-hop and this video has given me a lot to think about
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop 9 ай бұрын
Great reflection and appreciate the feedback. It's, in my opinion, a moral question that we each have to find the answer to. Thanks for really grappling with the art.
@eldritchfloatie7196
@eldritchfloatie7196 11 ай бұрын
I like Vince a lot, and in interviews he shows his cleverness, but tbh, his songs are the same gangster shit as everyone else's. He might feel critical of it and write from the heart as therapy, but he still makes his past life sound profound and purpose-giving instead of the rotten, soul-crushing hell it must have been in retrospect. He also has outright Crips ads with TeeCee DaLoc
@unpopuler
@unpopuler 11 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, he's an american in entertainment, and most artists are put on a high pedestal because they can do "artsy thing" at the end of the day. It's kind of ironic the essayist is trying to portray nihilism as a deep and profound ideology also lmao. At least Vince has money so he can shit talk the haters, that's the true american delusion real living!
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate the thoughts here! I’d argue that his take is one that runs contrary to the popular forms of gangster rap. The nihilism aspect is part of what makes it unique, in that we compartmentalize the entertainment factor. Vince is an embodiment of that lifestyle, a cold blooded killer who understands just how depraved what we’re consuming is. He was a victim and perpetrator of it and his music should scare us. Not putting him on s pedestal but using as an example against that lifestyle. But yes, he is profiting from that lifestyle he lived through his music because we want to consume it. It’s self fulfilling in a sense. Thank you for watching!
@durere
@durere 11 ай бұрын
Just saw 3 minutes of this cat on Hot Ones, and knew for a fact he's realer than 99% of 'em.
@dotapark
@dotapark Жыл бұрын
When summer 06 was out, I loved that album even slightly more than TPAB. As a guy who lives in poverty, in other country, he’s songs still talking deep into me. Never knew he said this much outside of his music so, thanks for the video.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, like and subscribe to support the channel!
@timewizardking
@timewizardking Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Hip hop will never die lets change it for good one love
@erinaobrien9028
@erinaobrien9028 Жыл бұрын
Last line was so powerful. Thank you, it’s a privilege to hear your prose
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Very high praise!
@Harlem1mentality
@Harlem1mentality Жыл бұрын
Vulnerability and honesty is what Vince is preaching
@drewskiivids1297
@drewskiivids1297 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video💯 Really true, trauma sells and they’re gonna want more and more from you. Right when you try to talk about something positive when you’re not in that situation anymore and it doesn’t sell as much. They will want the thing that sells more. Y’all stay blessed and safe out here💯 Make your music because you’re the creative one. Shoutout Vince Staples too✊🏾💯
@Holygiant
@Holygiant Жыл бұрын
$300-400 on a gun with no money... damn that's real lol
@hoodmapsllc5799
@hoodmapsllc5799 11 ай бұрын
LONG BEACH!!!
@livethruyours
@livethruyours Жыл бұрын
Amazing work with this video. I have a greater understanding and appreciation for staples ✊🏾
@spliffbuddha
@spliffbuddha Жыл бұрын
ngl it threw me off slightly when plies - hynotized instrumental kicked in the background lmao
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
lol, it’s such a good riff. Sets a tone
@drehardin
@drehardin Жыл бұрын
💣 @3:45 Bars n Facts ! The music reproduces the artist and victims through great marketing.
@outro.productions
@outro.productions Жыл бұрын
The people Ye was talking about
@wintersmill4853
@wintersmill4853 Жыл бұрын
i just got into him this year. I HAD NO IDEA. this guy is smart, articulate and an inspiration.
@jamestaylor3805
@jamestaylor3805 9 ай бұрын
The message was traded for a paycheck, and here's the unpopular opinion of the month, that paycheck above all else mentality started with the Wu Tang Clan.
@timkenda8203
@timkenda8203 Жыл бұрын
His verse on the end of "Hive" was what drew me to him, but his whole catalog is FIRE.
@purplebladder
@purplebladder Жыл бұрын
Nah bill bye ain’t do all that, niggas was just glad it wasn’t an actual lesson and could watch sum giving dog too much credit and credit for lean pouring!?
@xtrextrex
@xtrextrex Жыл бұрын
Vince and Money Man are probably the best rappers for the youth. Vince has such a great balance in his music and his personality. Btw this was a WELL PUT TOGETHER VIDEO!! 🔥🔥🔥
@SCriBBledUpMinD
@SCriBBledUpMinD Жыл бұрын
"you gotta figure a way out how to not feel ashamed of who you are & where you come from" Dang I never heard it worded that way (Eminem voice: "I can't think of a perfecter way to word it" [LTS])
@OfSunFlowers
@OfSunFlowers 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the perspective. I didn’t care much for this guy’s attitude prior to watching this video. But now I understand him a bit more.
@blayzej
@blayzej Жыл бұрын
Great analysis, top notch quality.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Honestly appreciate that. Means I’m heading in the right direction. Thanks for watching and supporting.
@wesleyvanaman2753
@wesleyvanaman2753 Жыл бұрын
Nietzsche wasn't a nihilist. Rather, he thought that nihilism was a necessary stage in life. In my interpretation of his three metamorphoses, the camel descends into the realization of nihilism whereupon the lion must slay the dragon to enable the child to create values, thus giving life meaning. I think Nietzsche thought the pious and the Englishmen were nay-sayers unable to say yes to the value of life, which is, in my eyes, the possibility of creating meaning. So it is by refuting nihilism that one becomes a nihilist towards life, a nay-sayer.
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Very well put, thank you.
@RickDecember
@RickDecember Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid on Vince!! . First of your content I've seen, and it was great!!! Had to Sub! Folks hit them subs up!
@k.q4204
@k.q4204 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Definitely subscribing this was a very interesting story of a young 👑
@clydemik2990
@clydemik2990 11 ай бұрын
Haha i dont need to hear this all the rappers sounded like vince staples 2018 and before people just lost common sense all these likes and shit dont mean shit
@HollywoodRobTV
@HollywoodRobTV Жыл бұрын
Amazing content
@AWafer
@AWafer Жыл бұрын
Vince has always been a smart dude. He payed ample attention.
@Talkpaw
@Talkpaw 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate the introspect. Vince is an artist that needs to be more celebrated for the way he challenges our thought processes
@Wave_MOMT
@Wave_MOMT Жыл бұрын
This was spot on. Excellent work! You highlighted everything that drew me to him as an artist, and that makes him important as a voice in the culture
@large3508
@large3508 11 ай бұрын
Vince is a very good example of understanding the value moderation whilst having excess
@coopersmith8750
@coopersmith8750 Жыл бұрын
So glad you stayed independent tho so much better to stay with Jesus over the Satan keep preaching🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻keep spreading the truth don’t go mainstream
@TRAW415
@TRAW415 Жыл бұрын
That’s why DJ Akademics is such a 🤡 to me
@XxFuZexToxicxX
@XxFuZexToxicxX Жыл бұрын
He real fort this.... The same people who have interests in music production companies and labels are the same ones who have interests in the prison system. The same music that those parties makes money from is the same party who is benefitting from raps influence. Every time a young kid who gets influenced by drill or gangster rap and gets locked up because of it, they fill their pockets from both ends.
@willis7404
@willis7404 Жыл бұрын
I think eventually the Vince Staples, J Cole’s, Kendrick’s will takeover. Maybe I’m just getting older but when you see the victims of gang violence and it starts to hit close to home you lose an appetite for the dumbshit
@user-et1ch4zk6b
@user-et1ch4zk6b Жыл бұрын
Lol The hypocrisy is he’s calling out the hypocrisy but profiting off the hypocrisy lol we all in the game….he just makes himself and whoever foolish enough to listen to him feel better about themselves lol Are you not entertained?
@kazmaloop
@kazmaloop Жыл бұрын
Well said, there are definitely many layers to the hypocrisy. I think to your point “we’re all in the game” sums up the video quite nicely. It’s exactly what he’s saying, there is no morality to “the game”. “We glorify the dead and demonize the ones who had done it”. You’re saying the same thing he is.
@vizualwarrior129
@vizualwarrior129 Жыл бұрын
@@kazmaloop I think bro misunderstood the video but yeah, sayin the same thing he is. Vince is VERY much aware of it lol
@bricbrac28
@bricbrac28 11 ай бұрын
I feel like he was one if those kids that when he got in trouble he say what you yellin for??
@mokaza40
@mokaza40 Жыл бұрын
That explains why people don't like my rap Playlist. I be playing Vince and Tyler. Love the introspective raps.
@h.m.5724
@h.m.5724 Жыл бұрын
The realest in the rap game is K-Rino period and that's facts not opinion
@harv1
@harv1 10 ай бұрын
“Until you got some money you ain’t shit” n that’s how it is unfortunately
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