Vincent Racaniello: Viruses and Vaccines | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Privacy: privacy.com/lex to get $5 added to your account - Justworks: justworks.com - Sun Basket: sunbasket.com/lex and use code LEX to get $35 off - The Information: theinformation.com/lex to get 75% off first month - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil 3:11 - Microbiology by numbers 8:33 - From bacteria to an organism 16:32 - AlphaFold 2 20:31 - Simulating an evolutionary arms race 45:57 - The most terrifying virus 1:07:41 - SARS-CoV-2 1:22:25 - Coronaviruses and Influenza. What's the difference? 1:28:31 - Vaccines 1:34:29 - Lex on his reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine shot 1:40:25 - Modern vaccines 1:45:25 - How does mRNA vaccine work? 1:48:12 - Are mRNA vaccines safe? 2:14:38 - Lex on trust in authority 2:29:45 - Ivermectin 2:36:26 - Hydroxychloroquine 2:41:08 - Variants and mutations 2:48:06 - Testing 2:56:13 - How does COVID-19 spread? 2:59:24 - Masks 3:07:52 - Bret Weinstein vs Sam Harris 3:11:26 - This Week in Virology 3:21:06 - Advice for young people 3:23:28 - Meaning of life

[@sarahbowman7566]

You speak more sense with a quiet strength in the first 2.30mins than a large percentage of the population can even comprehend, or so it currently seems. Stay true to you and keep inspiring those like me to take our learning to a level we never dreamed possible, whatever that level may be.

[@davedave4658]

Mr.Fridman, as you are careful with words and intention ;I am certain your openings are always crafted with care.... That being said, your intro here is one of THE most potent and well conveyed 2 minutes to ever land on KZbin. Your skill as a wordsmith is REALLY gaining polish. We ARE listening. Thanks Brother.

[@avbioinnovationllc2739]

Thank you

[@MrOzzyCam]

You were lucky to get Vincent on your show. He is one of the best in the business.

[@bizzzle213]

I was really enjoying this discussion between two seemingly level headed experts...until the last hour when Vincent starts pushing for the children to get vacationed to open up schools again. One of the lowest risk categories. Wow.

[@osirisgolad]

I greatly appreciate the fact that Dr Racaniello makes sure he has answered the previous question in its entirety after they've gone off on a tangent and Lex is about to ask the next question, forgetting the previous one was left unanswered. Really shows that he's paying attention and is engaged with the content of the interview.

[@stellarsphere4543]

Would have been nice if Lex shut up more and let Dr Racaniello, the expert in the field, answer more of the questions that were left unanswered because of Lex's rants towards the end of the pod.

[@karoleebrown1858]

Lex, I’m your biggest fan, but I wish you let this doctor stay on track and go deep.

[@MrMexikin]

I agree amazing interview

[@uncleJuancho]

I agree on people here, I love you Lex but you should allow the Dr to talk more

[@inthefade]

It takes serious effort to keep on target like that in a tangential conversation. It is really appreciated.

[@robertwynkoop7112]

This is one of the most valuable casts on virology and COVID that exists, delivered in an unemotional, rational, apolitical way that is most clear and effective

[@robertwynkoop7112]

@@kreek22 Yes and he is a denier of the lab origin hypothesis (see recent Dave Pakman cast for this). I was disappointed that Lex did not ask him about these questions. That does not take away from the various factual points he does make…… and I do not know about any conflict of interest disclosures he may need to make also, thus your trust question is a good one……

[@deecobb9018]

What do u think virology does then?

[@robertwynkoop7112]

@@deecobb9018 of course virology is the study of virus, it should be obvious that basic knowledge of this subject would allow better understanding of the many discussion surrounding COVID, including viral origins, pathology, vaccinology, treatments etc as well as provide some windows into the socioeconomic complexities of the viral pandemic…..

[@TheAlphaMael]

My thoughts exactly.

[@TheAlphaMael]

@@kreek22 You say "gain of function supporter" like it's supposed to be a bad thing.

[@tntnyny]

That introduction. I have never come across a public figure who could actually make me less jaded and pessimistic. You're a special person Lex. Thank you.

[@arthurhiggins4636]

Totally agree a good man

[@DEtchells]

Here, here! It made me want to stand up and applaud! :-)

[@juliawinsa4260]

I was taken by it too!

[@anant8884]

that was brilliant

[@AriesRising4444]

Because he is a naive soul. But he is young still. Life has not finished with him yet.

[@lismartinez5363]

You should have Prof . Racaniello back on . Excellent communicator.

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

Wonderful podcast. My Great Grandfather and a Great Aunt (age 21) died from the Spanish flu. My Mom shared a room with my Great Grandmother for many years after her husband and daughter died.. This year Feb 2021 my 40 year old son died from a perfect storm, suiciding, not ODing, and not only is my heart broken but my mind cannot grasp the dichotomy of my Great grandmother’s experience and my son’s experience. Both my grandmothers died before I met them, nor did my son meet his grandmothers. My son used to listen to Lex all the time, I could hear the kind of monotone sound of the podcast when he visited. I now appreciate you podcasts Lex, that does not have a ton of tada kind of music and no ads. Keep seeking. ❤️✌️✝️

[@annabell3385]

I was just explaining to somebody why I like Lex. I get information while nobody is blasting their (contagious) emotions all over me. He has a soothing voice, not the kind of monotone that causes people to not even hear it. I'm sorry for your loss.

[@nyoodmono4681]

vaccine damage. th spanish flu was a hoax too

[@cjlive5182]

My heart goes out to you and I pray you are comforted.

[@lkgpuanimho0349]

I can’t believe that you got this guy, Lex. This guy is a legend in microbiology.

[@cynthialeech2507]

His expertise is mainly in Virology.

[@tonytanner3048]

@@cynthialeech2507 virology is a topic in microbiology

[@giraffecolor5681]

Dr. Racaniello has so much passion in what he is talking about and communicates it so well. I got excited simply just listening to him.

[@joesickinger]

Except the doctor claims at 24 minutes that Sars Covid is just as bad in devastation to the 1918 pandemic....not even close

[@RonnieD1970]

@@joesickinger how is it now as devastating? The manority of the world closed down. We have 100x better medicine technology to deal with a pandemic today then we did in 1918 and we still lost milliona and counting. Yea the population is multiple billions larger today so the death count per capita is less but to say the world completely stopping, millions dead, trillions lost, lives put on hild for at least 18+ months and counting as not as devasting at 1918 that sounds like you are being cynical not skeptical.

[@toddkorson8207]

Always a pleasure to listen to someone who loves what they do.

[@RonnieD1970]

@@joesickinger you think you are bettrer qualifoed to look at the history and data of 1918 then Vinny Rac? What are YOUR credentials?

[@ben5154]

@@joesickinger not even close only because we were able to more effectively mask up and social distance on a global scale+had effective vaccines. Nearly 5 million deaths at this point, we can guess what that would have been if we had had practically no effective response.

[@KimP0612]

I love Vincent. He has several amazing podcasts for education purposes on viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc.

[@katrinachancey7976]

I would love a follow up conversation on this subject now that time has passed

[@macdaddyns]

Lex, Thank you for this interview. I learned more in 3 hours than the previous 18 months. Vincent was an amazing guest as he was the most genuine and revealing, casual and comfortable dare I say relaxed in delivering answers which implies no bull shit. keep up the great work!

[@In-Marty-We-Trust]

Same. Thank you,

[@JacobWilson777]

They should fire fauci and make him the replacement

[@AgendaInMind]

So the least corrupt countries who held their citizens hostage for the shortest amount of time had the lowest Boogey Virus rates. Of course.... because people don’t get sick from germs, they get sick from being scared and upset about something that happened in their lives. Enter the worldwide FEAR CAMPAIGN brought to you by governments who have lied for decades. Governments who allow synthetic foods on the market like fake butter, Twinkies, telling you to eat 10 servings of toxic grains a day in order to keep your heart healthy, meanwhile it's causing everyone to become diabetic....THIS is who you take health info from??! Governments that lied about the medical benefit of marijuana are now to be TRUSTED? The Germ Theory was never actually proven to be 100% accurate, yet the trillion dollar medical industry is entirely based on that theory. What's the CAUSE of death in people with this "virus"? Does their brain explode? Does their heart stop beating? The CAUSE of death is still pneumonia. Pneumonia is not something you can "catch". It's a biological result of being "scared to death" of something which is exactly what the media has done to people dumb enough to watch them. You've heard the term "Worried sick". That's because your BRAIN causes you to become sick due to the stress it is perceiving! Why do you think young kids aren't getting the Boogey Virus? Because they aren't sitting in front of the news being scared to death because they're too young to understand a Fear Campaign. These pathetic "experts" just make shit up to explain their narrative as they go. First they tell you kids bring home every illness from school because they're not "exposed" to enough things, then they say somehow they're immune to a Boogey Virus? Does anyone have common sense?! You don't show the symptoms of "disease" until you stop being panicked and afraid. These symptoms usually show up 1-2 weeks after you've relaxed and resolved the upsetting event. There's no such thing that some diseases you can "catch", but not all. It's not that complex! If you can't "catch" cancer, diabetes, MS, arthritis, etc., from other people, then you can't "catch" colds, flu and Boogey Viruses. So governments around the world are CAUSING fear frights in everyone based on an unproven THEORY by one man, Louis Pasteur, who redacted his claim of the germ theory on his death bed, yet no one listened. So of course, when everyone is allowed to escape the hostage situation the governments have put their people into, and they start relaxing about the Boogey Virus, that's not in any way transmissible, they will begin their healing phase (get sick), and believe they then have it, and more panic will ensue as well as martial law. The longer people allow this government to hold them hostage in their homes, the more severe the "sickness" will be. Can anyone put 2 and 2 together to figure out what I'm saying?? Western Medicine is pure fraud, and people's lives are destroyed because of it. There's no critical thinking anymore. The group thinkers are moronic and brain dead. People think they're educated because they've memorized the lies they've been told for 100 years.

[@carolineshepherd7625]

Yes, Vincent and the other virologists in his virology podcast (This week in Virology) are great. You should give an episode or two a listen. It's a bit more technical, but very interesting. I enjoyed listening to this podcast.

[@macdaddyns]

@@carolineshepherd7625 Thank you, I will definitely check it out

[@TheKTK5000]

In case anyone forgets what an objective conversation divorced from partisan rhetoric looks like, especially on Covid topics, let this serve as an example and a (much needed) reminder that it is entirely possible.

[@RonnieD1970]

Yes!!! Fastest 3 1/2 hours I have ever listened to. I am a die hard MicrobeTV fan and TWIV (and TWIEVO, TWIP, IMMUNE, TWIN etc) for almost a half a decade and watched all of the Columbia Virology courses since 2016 and I still can’t get enough of VinnyRac’!! Awesome interview thank you Lex for having a legitimate knowledgeable Virologist on your show!

[@paulwyns3502]

Racaniello is being disingenuous and mendacious. I have heard him say on his own program that "there is no correlate of immunity with antibodies". That is correct because the presence of antibodies tell you nothing about immunity. Your immunity is dependent on your T cell response which comes at an earlier stage of infection. Do you know why banana plantations are dangerous? They are dangerous because they are a mono-culture (they are all the same). Infection by a single pathogen can wipe out the whole plantation because you have no genetic diversity. That is what mRNA transfection is doing to you. It is making the VACCINATED all respond in the same way. It is creating a bottleneck among the vaccinated. States with high vaccination rates are now showing high CFR and that is a FACT. These are leaky vaccines. If the virus escapes and unvaccinated person it is adapted to that particular person.....if a virus escapes a vaccinated person it has worked out how to infect vaccinated people and therefore becomes more specific for the vaccinated. By using leaky vaccines you just opened a training school for viruses. This virus is being weaponized. Israel they are talking about the necessity of a fourth vaccine. This is the Marek disease route that vaccinologist Geert vande Bossche warned about (ADE). Why are you talking with someone who is linked to the Proximal Origin crew who had a hand with applying GOF research to the virus (bio-weapon)? Why not get someone on to challenge the rancid lies? This video by neuro-biologist JJ Couey challenges the interview (from 1:26 onward): www.twitch.tv/videos/1142092078

[@RonnieD1970]

@@paulwyns3502 cite your sources.

[@RonnieD1970]

@@paulwyns3502 you sound like a dunniny kruger inspired anti vaxx PLANdemicer conspiracy nut.

[@Alic4444]

@@paulwyns3502 Paul, check that that rancid smell you're talking about isn't coming from behind your own nose. Please check your theories carefully by talking to some actual doctors about them, or at least trying to ground them in some peer reviewed studies if you're not willing to have them tested by people with any level of expert knowledge. ONE ex-academic now CEO of a pharma company does not equal any kind of scientific consensus.

[@livingtribunal4110]

@@paulwyns3502 CFR is on the rise because USA has totally slowed down in vaccination rate. The vaccines´ functionality is outstanding and a perfect case-in-point of this is *Brazil* . Brazil had the worst rate of cases, hospitalizations and deaths during end of Q1 and throughout Q2 this year. Absolutely got smashed from state-to-state. Since May-June, their vaccination rate has increased exponentially to being 2nd to China (in terms of vaccinations relative to population) and the cases, hospitalizations and deaths have decreased exponentially in kind. Plus, there´s no dumb anti-vaccination movement in Brazil as we see in USA, UK and a number of other European nations. It´s not rocket-science and there´s no conspiracy re: vaccine weaponization

[@Phdintheory]

Lex you have the innocence of a child with the brilliance of a genius. Never stop searching for the innocence in the rest of us because there are some of us out here worth saving.

[@OMGAnotherday]

✌️Innocence doesn’t die, it gets replaced with wisdom. Sometimes that wisdom lets us know fairies are not real and there really are bad people in the world. Just a thought to keep in mind.

[@cab5917]

Vincent is an excellent science teacher and communicator. TY for having this long interview with important questions and explanatory answers.

[@VakoLF]

One of the best podcast I've seen in many years. Thank you Lex and Vincent!

[@jennifermaliniak2925]

I wish more people shared your perspective Lex I really do. I’m so heartbroken to witness the division that’s happening, watching fear take over people’s senses and reason. I agree that compassion is the ultimate answer and hope that your podcast helps other people see reason. Much gratitude

[@MelanieSakowski]

Sawubona sister❤️

[@OMGAnotherday]

I don’t know if you saw it the same way that I did, but the fear was (and still is)all generated by the main stream media, and my burning question why?

[@LoveLifeRadio]

* Best mind out there. Thanks to Lex for having Vincent on your show.

[@johnjones1534]

Dr. Racaniello is so clearly a first rate instructor. He takes pains to explain complex things as clearly and simply as possible. Wonderful.

[@bonzbeasty]

Lex. Your intro gave me a chill. I cant tell you how much I appreciate you. I feel less alone in the world knowing you exist, and lustening to your conversations. Thank You Lex, for always being yourself and reminding me to do the same.

[@Bogusuap]

Vincent finally. I love this week in the virology podcast. I listen every single show since MArch 2020

[@constantlychangin]

Awesome! You should check out the older episodes as well

[@RonnieD1970]

Welcome to the Microbe TV fan club!! I have personally watched every VIROLOGY lecture from 2015 - 2021 and every TWIV, TWIEVO, IMMUNE, TWIP, TWIN since 2016!

[@robbielee2148]

Vincent is my only source for reality

[@abdullahalmukhaini6018]

This is probably the first covid podcast that I listened to every second on of it without getting bored or getting confused with the complexity of what is being talked about! Thank you lex

[@dounghataiwataim5180]

Good​ point​ kreek22 these​ guys​ think​ there​ god​ or​ something​ such​ bs​

[@hugomaritz692]

@@kreek22 Yeah but don't expect any different. Gain of function , as I understand it, comprises pretty much the larger part of virology atm. He seems like a very nice man and he's obviously extremely intelligent. I also found it weird it never came up. Even brilliant loving people can enact catastrophes when playing with fire. Maybe Lex can invent the AI that turns it all into paperclips and beat him to it :)

[@Sceince007]

⁠@@hugomaritz692gain of function is extremely misunderstood issue . Since it’s been clearly established that virus was a natural spill over . If you want to learn about gain of function in general kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5TMiHmPfZiqn6s

[@ChildPerson]

I've been watchiǹg Vincent and gangs since shortly after Covid hit us. Really enjoyed this conversation! Thanks both!

[@meekaeelmysorewala3544]

Lex, You have provided here an educational resource that is unbiased and so refreshing. As a fellow jiujitsu bb and computer scientist this is exactly what the world needs. Someone who listens to data, challenges claims to get the truth, and someone who takes feedback and learns from it. I am truly grateful for this gem of a 3 hour window into a virologists knowledge and insight. The more valid information that is out there, the better for everyone. Keep the knowledge coming, it is appreciated more than you know

[@OCCollects]

I came here because I am currently unvaccinated for the SARS-CoV-2 virus and have been hesitant due to overwhelming amount of misinformation. Though I came here to get a better understanding of the virus and combat those who are trying to force it on me I’m actually leaving with more peace of mind on vaccines thanks to these two men. We need less mandates and more information, thank you for this video.

[@tanl7756]

If you had covid and got over it, you are immune. Get the blood test to see if you have antibodies, the GOOD blood test, T and B cells included. You may have had it and been asymptomatic. If so, you are immune. mRNA is just imo, not good to use for a vax. It's an experimental technology for a vax, and it did NOT work when tried for cancer cures at all.

[@OCCollects]

@@tanl7756 I actually ended up getting covid during the delta surge along with my wife and 2 kids and we all had little to no symptoms.

[@tanl7756]

@@OCCollects THIS WAS RELEASED DUE TO JUDGE ORDER OR IT WOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT LOCKED FOR 75 YEARS. Jesse Santiano M.D. The Complete List of the Pfizer Adverse Events of Special Interest Posted on March 3, 2022 by Jesse Santiano, M.D. The Council for International Organizations of Medical Sciences (CIOMS) defines Adverse Event of Special Interest as, An adverse event of special interest (serious or non-serious) is one of scientific and medical concern specific to the sponsor’s product or programme, for which ongoing monitoring and rapid communication by the investigator to the sponsor may be appropriate. Such an event may require further investigation in order to characterize and understand it. Depending on the nature of the event, rapid communication by the trial sponsor to other parties may also be needed (e.g., regulators). Adverse Event of Special Interest is an event for a particular product that should be monitored by a drug or vaccine manufacturing company. It can be severe or non-serious, but it can lead to a serious medical condition. According to the CIOMS Working Group VII Such events should be described in protocols or protocol amendments, and instruction provided for investigators as to how and when they should be reported to the sponsor. And that is why Pfizer has included a list of Adverse Events of Special Interest in their document 5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021 that you can download from Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency Documents. The original Pzifer appendix is a wall of words with the diagnoses separated by semi-colons. I alphabetized them and put them in a numerical list. I will put links on the diseases, but it is a work in progress so it may take time, so I ask for your patience. More than 95% of the adverse events listed are life-changing. (for the bad) If you are lucky enough to have a diagnosis from your doctors and say it is not related to the shot, show this list to them. Tell them that Pfizer is watching out for those complications. Many doctors, nurse practitioners, or physician assistants don’t know. I didn’t until I read the whole list. Many of the conditions below are rare. That means a doctor may not have seen that condition before or might have forgotten about them from medical school. Rare also means there may be no standardized treatment for them. The diagnosis on the list does not mean always happen with the COVID-19 shots, but anyone who got “vaccinated” and then diagnosed with the illnesses below should be reported to Pfizer or the VAERS. The diagnosis may be months or years after the shots. You can still report them. The World Health Organization is also keeping an eye on the AESIS. AESI monitoring determines if there is a higher incidence of specific diseases in people who had the COVID shots. If the incidence is higher in people who had the shots, they should stop using these “vaccines”. That is if they do their job. This list may be from Pfizer, but ALL WHO HAD THE COVID SHOTS WHATEVER THE MANUFACTURER SHOULD REPORT THEIR DIAGNOSIS. (Moderna, Johnson, and Johnson, Sputnik, AstraZeneca, Coronavac, etc) Below is from their document COVID-19 VACCINES: SAFETY SURVEILLANCE MANUAL, MONITORING AND RESPONDING TO ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST (AESIS). Source: World Health Organization

[@que_93]

This man, Lex is such a rare gem of a person! I have so much respect for you, Lex! And, thank you, Professor Vincent for this tremendously informative and helpful conversation.

[@whhmjr]

Reading, thinking, and making a decision can best happen in a world without censorship.

[@cryptoskinz3815]

What a legend. A true role model for all old and young. I think Lex is a very special human being. One love Lex x

[@martinrandall5436]

Lex is such a brilliant interviewer he is able to simultaneously interview someone else and himself at the same time.

[@Lovin_It]

I don't appreciate his lack of preparation and the fact that I'm inundated with his videos even without subscribing. Do get Norman Finklestein for an interview to educate you before the guy passes away, for starters.

[@KB-ej8hm]

that introduction is everything...if only there were more people like you, Lex. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@MyYouTubeNameisTaken]

Love, compassion and empathy is the way

[@chrismeek882]

Great work by Lex Fridman. Kudos to the guest of the show for being on. This has been a milestone of a conversation in a skeptical world.

[@AnonYmous-rw6un]

The best podcasts are the ones with doers talking, especially scientists.

[@toastedjoe1013]

The problem is that people listen to fake Facebook scientists and not real ones.

[@staninjapan07]

The best podcasts are the ones with doers talking... I like that.

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

I personally like the ones with Dr Griffin best somehow.

[@lukemreese]

@@eelkeaptroot1393 watch those religiously for the past two years. It is my weekly dose of sanity.

[@BobbyJobling]

@@toastedjoe1013 the problem is the censorship of professionals that don't follow the narrative completely.

[@darrenstevenson7446]

Thanks Lex for introducing me to this educator.His weekly podcasts on virology immunology, etc have given me a look at how amazing the immune system is at adapting to antigens that come our way. And to the researchers working behind the scenes ...keep up the good work

[@TheRealJamesKirk]

Vincent and his colleagues are my window on immunology and virology, but there are so many other fascinating things happening at a molecular level in the body. For instance, there are proteins which act as molecular motor machines; my mind was suitably blown when I learned about them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4O4eX2eqNCKZpI

[@pcar928fan]

I love all the TWiX podcasts and have been listening to him for YEARS! Wonderful interview and it was so nice to really start from the beginning here and go all the way through the biology and virology. Dr R is amazing for sure! As you said several times…anyone with even the slightest curiosity for biology should listen to his podcasts!

[@ADGwildlife]

Maybe one of the BEST podcasts on the internet, this guy was legit! Restored some faith in humanity!

[@ericabaker4215]

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[@paulwyns3502]

Racaniello is being disingenuous and mendacious. I have heard him say on his own program that "there is no correlate of immunity with antibodies". That is correct because the presence of antibodies tell you nothing about immunity. Your immunity is dependent on your T cell response which comes at an earlier stage of infection. Do you know why banana plantations are dangerous? They are dangerous because they are a mono-culture (they are all the same). Infection by a single pathogen can wipe out the whole plantation because you have no genetic diversity. That is what mRNA transfection is doing to you. It is making the VACCINATED all respond in the same way. It is creating a bottleneck among the vaccinated. States with high vaccination rates are now showing high CFR and that is a FACT. These are leaky vaccines. If the virus escapes and unvaccinated person it is adapted to that particular person.....if a virus escapes a vaccinated person it has worked out how to infect vaccinated people and therefore becomes more specific for the vaccinated. By using leaky vaccines you just opened a training school for viruses. This virus is being weaponized. Israel they are talking about the necessity of a fourth vaccine. This is the Marek disease route that vaccinologist Geert vande Bossche warned about (ADE). Why are you talking with someone who is linked to the Proximal Origin crew who had a hand with applying GOF research to the virus (bio-weapon)? Why not get someone on to challenge the rancid lies? This video by neuro-biologist JJ Couey challenges the interview (from 1:26 onward): www.twitch.tv/videos/1142092078

[@neilcreamer8207]

What an excellent interview. On one hand, Prof. Racaniello is a first-rate educator and on the other Lex is one of the best interlocutors I’ve seen. Good questions make for a great discussion. I think really a important part of this conversation was the issue over whether it’s stupid to trust science or stupid not to trust it. My own view is that it’s stupid to leave your research to someone else. If you can read you can learn to read papers and data then form your own view. One area where I think the Prof’s view is lacking is that he doesn’t seem to take account of possible under-reporting of vaccine injuries. I think it’s pretty clear from the anecdotes that they are under-reported in official data and this makes it hard to do a proper risk analysis.

[@fannibal]

There are physician Facebook groups where people talk about this exact issue. Based on individual physician anecdotal reports, myocarditis is likely underreported, but likely underreported for vaccinated and unvaccinated. Overall finding that myocarditis is still much more common in covid vs vaccine still stands.

[@OMGAnotherday]

One year down the road (Dec 25 2022) Vaccine injuries list getting longer and longer, but still we will never know, because it’s clear to me there is every reason on their part for big pharma and big Gov to not give us the truth. On my part, I am deeply saddened that science and medicine has been hijacked by greed! But since it’s Christmas Day, I’m heading out to meet family and open presents, and share the good will that genuinely does still exist. (There will be no covid discussion thank goodness)😂 I still have hope for our human race. So I wish Goodwill to you and your kin wherever you are. And thank you for asking the important questions 🎄🎄🎄🎄

[@OMGAnotherday]

@@fannibal Agree, there will be many sicknesses underreported vaccinated or unvaccinated, we will never know the true extent of vaccine injury which is a really big shame because it should be part of the scientific data for development. And of course for compensation for those whose injuries are life changing.

[@jamesgreer5116]

This was an incredible experience. I enjoyed the segment thoroughly.

[@alexisjuillard4816]

the humility of the man and deep respect he gave to lex (mirroring lex's attitude) was impressive what a scientist

[@chrisg4632]

Two guinea pigs in a pub having a beer, One asks “Are you getting the jab?” the other said “Na I’m waiting for the human trials to end!”

[@luminousfractal420]

I just find it weird that everyone so hyped about this, how about that potato starches cooked at temps above 240f become cancer causing, but half the frozen foods state to cook at 450f. And nobody said a word despite the scientists screaming into the wind to let us know. Isn't that more worrying?

[@OMGAnotherday]

@@luminousfractal420 It’s all worrying! But changing the subject to another doesn’t make it less worrisome to the first subject.

[@laurakosch]

Fair enough. But no one has been forced to take potato starch or lose their jobs. That would also be worrying. It’s apples oranges when these comparisons are made. We are a year out from the podcast and the data are coming in, the picture is clearer now.

[@FinisReflectatOpus]

@@luminousfractal420 For sure, if you're already at risk, just add more risk, what could go wrong?

[@Anubis2828]

@@laurakosch what data?

[@ME4503]

I've been watching/listening to Lex's podcasts for a few years now but I have to say, this is the most interesting one as yet. This is absolutely brilliant! Thank you both!

[@G5349]

Great that you have Dr. Racaniello on. I've been listening to "this week in virology" for quite a few years, and always learn a lot from each episode.

[@avicenna1977]

I really admire how Lex asks the tough, direct questions without any agenda other than learning. If that trait can be made infectious, there would be hope. The questions I still have (as an immunologist) for the mRNA vaccines are: 1) what's the biodistribution of these vaccines? 2) how are they presented to the immune system? and 3) what's the nature of this immune system in the absence of a typical "danger" signal for the immune system to recognizes it as a viral antigen? For the latter, I don't see where that instructive information is contained. As such, I believe the greatest issues with the mRNA vaccines include the fact that they don't engage all aspects of the immune system via a "pathogen associated molecular pattern" (i.e. the danger signal), which is necessary to activate both innate and adaptive immunity for a coherent and durable immune response; 2) there is no targeting of this response that would provide mucosal immunity (route of viral entrance - which may be why there is still high viral loads in fully vaccinated) - and it is entering cells that aren't "professional antigen presenting cells"; and 3) it is directing all the attention to one antigen (just asking for selective pressure for variants for immune evasion).

[@Wildchile]

Lex, I love your mind and the way you communicate. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. Great conversation.

[@vladimirolujic6637]

Such a great guest. Great listener and communicator. Clear, open, analytical, objective... Amazing episode. Thanks very much!

[@felixwhise4165]

read, think and decide. And show empathy to your fellow human beings. intro is already fire Lex

[@mandlvw]

I listened to this one twice (yes 7 hours) and am truly thankful that there are some people that do not have agendas when they convey facts. It restores your trust in the human race. Prof. Racaniello is a shining beacon of reason and objectivity. It is wonderful to see that he doesn't shy away from Lex's difficult questions and admits that he was wrong in the past. A lesson to us all.

[@demesrvl6761]

Lex, your belief that Love, Compassion & Empathy are the way out is, IMO, the Only Truth. Those who may mock you are lost souls. Much love to you. You are not alone.

[@alcy0ne1]

First time ever encountering Lex. Great host and so amazing to hear an interview with a pro-vaccine scientist who isn’t shaking his finger at people.

[@forgoodnessache5399]

You're in for a treat looking through all of his incredible interviews.

[@nicholasm2239]

Oh dear.. well you should probably just call in covid for a few weeks and start from the start.

[@Ungtartog]

Vincent's suite of podcasts are also phenomenal. All science shows by scientists discussing today's papers and studies.

[@catherinemalek-mansour5711]

Thank you both for a great conversation!! What a great guy he is, your guest Vincent Racaniello, passionate about his field, calm, shedding a lot of light on so many aspects of viruses, covid, vaccines, etc. And I always enjoy your questions and also philosophical inputs you bring into the conversations. I will need to go back to some of the great statements made-- people like him, we need on the top of handling a pandemic- knowledgeable, calm, non-judgmental, respectful and seeing things from different angles. And so true, what you are both saying, to just admit that one has made a mistake (s) would just have taken so much wind out of the sails!

[@toLothair2]

I remember watching his 2020 spring course on virology when this whole thing started to get an understanding what I was hearing. Thank you to Vincent Racaniello for his knowledge at I time when I needed it.

[@silviopina_111]

Ditto!

[@de_da_oo]

Same!!!

[@goldreserve]

Same, brilliant channel. How many viruses are there in a drop of seawater? Do viruses vary in size?

[@Tom_McMurtry]

I think this podcast, in combination with this one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqGQn4OQerl_itE are the two best around for a holistic understanding.

[@donovannamibia7883]

@@goldreserve Yes

[@korozsitamas]

Respect Lex, finally an objective viewpoint.

[@drichards4426]

@@alf9708 You're comparing the side effects of medicine to an actual disease. The fact they're even so comparable shows how low our standards are for science and medicine.

[@bluewolf9327]

@@alf9708 These vaccines are the deadliest in recorded history according to the governments own data.

[@bluewolf9327]

@@bmorgado2571 The data shows it doesn't work look at Israel the most vaccinated country on Earth and its having the most cases it's ever had. How come most of Africa hasn't taken the shot and they are doing better than all the countries that are over 50% vaccinated?

[@ben5154]

@@bluewolf9327 over 80 percent of Israelis are fully vaccinated so if the vaccine had 0 efficacy you would expect the ratio of hospitalizations to be that same 80/20, the fact its 50/50, 60/40 at highest, actually shows its working to some degree, although we already knew vaccine efficacy decreases overtime, like every other vaccine in history. As far as Africa, there's a number of possible factors, a few being: unfavorable climate for spread, a very young population relative to other parts of the world, a lot of countries took surprisingly swift action before the virus really got to the continent. Also, there is a number of African countries that have been rolling out vaccines, even though they're still pretty behind relatively. You can look all this stuff up. Data on a large scale can be confusing for sure, but vaccines do work.

[@drichards4426]

@@ben5154 don’t you those excuses for Africa are both vague and suspiciously convenient? You’re talking about a continent not a country.

[@CnR12345]

Dr. Racaniello is one of my favorite scientists.

[@judyking1702]

Lex thank you for these intelligent in depth creative exploratory conversations you have with people who enlighten us. Seeing their work, through their perspective, voice and passion is such a gift to all of us. The platform format that you provide for this to take place is remarkable!

[@enhancingrice1825]

3:06:15 "It seems like people don't have an objection to testing" Speaking from personal experience, there were/are a LOT of people who didn't trust test results. They thought there were excessive false-positives meant to inflate the number of Covid cases.

[@kkpaine]

The PCR does not isolate infection. One of Rogan’s early Spotify guests took 3 PCR tests. 1 pos; 2 negs

[@v.567]

@@kkpaine PCR directly detects viral nucleic acid lmao. It doesn't "isolate infection", whatever that means, but it tells you whether the virus (more specifically, it's nucleic acid) is there.

[@69birdboy]

That doesn't equal infection

[@v.567]

@@69birdboy What does it equal when you have virus present in you lol? Having virus present in you is the definition of infection.

[@montanagal6958]

as a hospital nurse, "respiratory symptoms" were counted as covid (no matter the test result)- they told us the flu disappeared (because the masks worked), questions were not allowed

[@coyotesayswhat]

Thank you Lex. I was making my decision over the past week. This was incredibly helpful to me. The numbers here are wonderful!. You asked all my questions!

[@SudilHasitha]

"Read Think and try to Imagine that you what currently think is the truth may be totally wrong. This mindset is one that opens you to do Discovery, Innovation and Wisdom" - Lex Fridman This is more than enough to change someone's life.

[@philoneill9865]

Thank you Lex. Excellent interview. I have been following TWiV since early 2020. Professor Racaniello is a hero of science.

[@suemiller294]

As an ICU nurse and microbiologist - I have so much respect for his teaching skills & have been able to combine my worlds thanks to him ! As for you sir - an open mind and critical thinking, and the voice…oiy 🥰🥰🥰

[@TheGunmanChannel]

This video is going viral.

[@MrSladej]

What I think would be interesting is finding out the demographics on the people that watched this video. Vaxed vs unvaxed. It’s been 2 weeks and the exposure to this video hasn’t been that responsive in the grand scheme of things. Are the majority of the viewers here unvaccinated and are looking for answers. I think the issue that most vaccinated people don’t understand is peoples distrust in the media. A distrust in politics. Hearing these types of conversations can only help. Instead of 10 second sound bites from the mainstream shit show. It’s a scary thought that one of the outcomes of this pandemic will be the censorship of the free flow of information. But that is what’s coming I think. A devolution for answers and discourse that isn’t prescribed.

[@sueroland8182]

I'd like to propose that everyone have a right to choose, BUT admission to any hospital is based on vaccine passport...Since many of the hospitals are clogged with the unvaccinated go ahead, let them choose to exert their "patriotic freedom" and no passport. Give people with medical needs truly necessitating exemption from vaccination (which I'm told is very very small percentage) a passport . Then if you choose not to be vaccinated don't turn around and clog up the hospitals when you're in trouble.

[@MenacingSnail]

@@MrSladej my thoughts exactly. You get it. Everyone you’ve grown to distrust telling you x.

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Ba-da-bom-bom-tsch!

[@GregF13]

I wish I could upvote this more times This is the single most informative interview I have seen on the COVID19 vaccines. Great work Lex!

[@brobytes4153]

I used to search for and watch the science guests on Joe Rogan’s podcast but I have just found your channel and that is essentially what you’re channel is. After graduating university things like this keep me curious and stimulated ! Thanks Lex.

[@jutjub22]

​@@bmorgado2571 exactly, just try to listen to latest Joe Rogan with Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying, I do not think it is possible to stay till the end of it :).

[@olehaugan9555]

This is quickly turning into my favorite podcast. I love the calm, prepared tone that Lex does👌

[@mercadoenterprise]

Have you all read the first batch of the court ordered FDA released documents?

[@zmunk]

I love this podcast. There’s more wisdom in his introductory remarks than in most of the rest of the Internet and cable broadcastings

[@Tom_McMurtry]

I think this podcast, in combination with this one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqGQn4OQerl_itE are the two best around for a holistic understanding.

[@YunggKhalifaa]

Truly an excellent conversation with an extremely knowledgeable individual. I loved your humble delivery of questions, and you asked some really good ones. Also I appreciate the humorous remarks you made at certain points 😅 Thank you Mr. Fridman

[@misterjul125]

Hi Lex, My experience about food eating in countries where cold storage is exotic is that number of plates served is actually a very good indicator.The main idea is you should look for place where food move quickly and not stored for a long time. Of course, Cooked | Fermented | Acid Food > Raw Food

[@ChiDraconis]

This is correct; *Dr. Suneel Dhand - MedStoic Lifestyle Medicine willing to take his NATURAL COVID IMMUNITY case to the US Supreme Court ~ multiple dr's ready to stand with him*

[@fern4508]

Great guest. Lex sure tries hard to get him to say things that somehow justify Rogan's antvax views. No matter what the virologist says, Lex only seems to want to focus on the most politically sinister scenarios. Inexplicably, Trump gets a complete pass for lying to the public for months because he didn't want to spook the market, while Fauci is "inauthentic" and untrustworthy. When Dr Rancaniello gives a detailed biological explanation about how vaccines actually work, or why some ideas about them are just simply incorrect biologically, its as if it doesn't register and he keeps seeking affirmation that the covid vaccine is as risky as contracting the live, just a matter of preference. Lex keeps returning to "it's scarey new technology," despite the fact there are also 2 available covid vaccines made the traditional way.

[@lifesonsrv9702]

​@@fern4508 2 available covid vaccines made the traditional way? Not in the US there aren't. And if you think Fauci is worthy of your trust, you simply have not been paying attention.

[@fern4508]

@@lifesonsrv9702 Johnson and Johnson, Astra-zeneka and Novavax are non-mRNA vaccines, approved in the US and Canada. The first two are viral vector vaccines and Noravax is an old school protein vaccine.

[@weissmann7770]

The best presentation of the scientific and sociological issues of this virus. Thank you and keep it up!

[@1Ominari]

I love how insightful you are as a interviewer, you ask such deep and thoughtful questions, keep up the good work man

[@jadedixon3641]

Love the calm and rational conversation. Wish there had been some discussion of boosters, Israeli data, and post covid vaccine dysmenorrhea.

[@lynlawley8903]

Well anyone is.better than fauchi,n you cant trust him at all

[@kkpaine]

He doesn’t get involved in the political aspect (reason I stripped watching show). This virus is 99% political.

[@bruceames9224]

This conversation is perfectly safe. Too safe. Let us not venture too close to the edge of the world…

[@foreverlifegolf]

3000 was Euthanized in Israel prior rollout in 11 mths....then 3000 died in 3 months after vax out...this data is consistent all around globe!!

[@shak535]

7 min in and i'm already rewinding and taking notes . Thanks for all the hard work Lex ! You da man !

[@Skunkhunt_42]

I've been listening to Vincent all pandemic, I don't agree with all his positions but the nuance and areas of uncertainty he showed awareness of here has made me trust him even more

[@esinach]

Why don't you agree with an expert on the subject? Because it goes against your "freedom"?

[@Skunkhunt_42]

@@esinach nothing to do with "muh freedom", everything to do with the spirit of scientific pursuit. Science is a verb not a noun. Being a KZbin comments section you and I know nothing about each other so its hard for you to predict where I'm coming from and vice-versa. Vincent has areas where he's extremely knowledgable and insightful, others hes less so but thats fine, that how this works. I guarentee in 5yrs there will be at least one aspect Vincent will have changed his mind about. Its the folks that can't say they were wrong that cause the most problems. It sucks we have to walk a tight rope pulled tight via science and politics in constant tension, it makes all this messy but the tension is nessesary and useful if we manage to balance the forces at the very least.

[@kevinmclain6741]

I'm very interested in exactly what data Lex read that told him the risk of the vaccine was less than the risk of COVID-19. Even the 6 month safety trials showed zero ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction) and that was against the original variant. Everything else only talks about the RRR (Relative Risk Reduction) related to how the vaccine prevents infection. But they don't consider how the vaccine is actually impacting the health of people as well. And that data is being obfuscated greatly.

[@v.567]

Pretty much the original trials + active and passive epidemiological data + independent observational studies and RCTs show vaccines have a clear benefit and reduced risk lol. Not to mention the vaccine safety studies.

[@peteryoung5147]

Not sure your still monitoring this thread, but you should watch twiv. Those tests were all about infection. Yes the vaccine wains agains infection but dr R is very clear that the vaccine protects against severe disease and death.

[@v.567]

@@peteryoung5147 That's what I'm saying, the tests are about infection.

[@luminousfractal420]

I think the keyword there is absolute. Maybe expecting a bit too much for an emergency vaccine. And your not going to get absolute data for anything from a 6month trial period (9months in the UK), that why long-term medical evaluations are held over a 30year period. I've had my life pretty much wrecked by dodgy antidepressants they banned years later. But I took this vaccine. Because I'm not the most important thing on the planet, and I'm not that important that other people should risk death for my convenience. It just courtesy and being part of a society compared to living feral. We're still animals, we can go one way or the other at this point, I choose to put others before myself, simple as that. Also if you look up study's past 1970 airborne virus range is 28ft, not 6ft. 6ft is how far a mucous droplet is ejected from a cough or sneeze (originating from a 1930's study on viral transmition). Look to the science papers for scientific reasoning, you won't find it in the general media or from governments who risk losing vast amounts of money. Most of these documents are available as pdf's (sciencedaily for up to date info, and Gutenberg online library for the historic documents (they have a book covering corona on pig farms and the survival rate of various virus' on various materials) many other versions before this one, they know about corona and it's 18 other variant going back some 70years or so. it's not a new thing. Just a new variant.

[@robertmann9095]

The vaccine is so good president Biden has only got it 4 times 🤔

[@gml142]

On Ivermectin concentrations, the FLCCC addresses the study mentioned during the podcast, which was also criticized by the NIH, and why it is not a baseline for real world dosage (among other reasons, humans are more complex than a collection of cells in a petri dish). It's also part of a double-standard around Ivermectin, that the burden of proof required regarding efficacy is impossibly high compared to other approved solutions.

[@MrOzzyCam]

Thanks Vincent for another great talk and public education! You are up there with Richard Feynman with giving away knowledge for free.

[@MrOzzyCam]

Seeing this, makes me realize why you need to explain stuff at a 5th grade level. I have forgotten what it is like to not know the basics. The questions are painfully simple. Your patience Vincent seems inexhaustible! BTW Guangzhou is pronounced "guang joe". I have been there a few times now.

[@annihilator22]

@@MrOzzyCam it's astounding that after over a year and a half, how little people know about the very thing that has turned the entire world upside down. Hopefully, this particular podcast episode has educated many who watched this.

[@westfield90]

I have immense respect for Professor Vincent Racaniello . He has literally kept me sane during this entire pandemic and given me hope time and time again. While other so called scientists and media experts have been proven to be wrong repeatedly, Vincent has only approached this pandemic with the science and data that others only claim to do. His exhaustive 40 years of experience in the field of virology makes him the only expert I trust. Thank you Lex for giving him your platform. I only wish he was consulted by our media and leaders rather than the dozens of attention seeking incompetent boobs they always rush to.

[@mar-a-lagofbibug8833]

Robert langer must be appreciated as well.

[@barryreid1182]

Agree with you completely

[@tomrado1687]

This is the best content I've watched and learned from, probably ever on the internet. I am 36 years old, been online since around 1998.. incredible. I trust both people in this interview enough to value pretty much 100% of what was said. Rare these days. Thank you @Lex

[@goldreserve]

Have you seen the Peter Daszak interview with Vincent 'TWiV 615: Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance'? Uploaded May 2020 filmed on December 9, 2019 at the Nipah conference. Talks about how easy G ov F is.

[@dounghataiwataim5180]

Agree​ gold​ all​ these​ sheep​ think​ g​ of​ function​ is​ wonderful​ when​ it​ killing​ I nocents​

[@RokoffStudio]

Thanks!

[@bwid5722]

Huge fan of TWIV. It allowed me to keep my sanity in the darkest days of the pandemic. Thank you for having Vincent on!

[@JohnPritzlaff]

Ironically, TWIV is also probably responsible for the pandemic.

[@ggbrait7140]

This podcast is amazing! Thank you for an extraordinary content! May your dreams for yourself, for this world, for humanity come true! Many blessings to you, Lex🙏❤️

[@yuta10]

Dr. Racaniello is an amazing lecturer.

[@Peter_S_]

He will be conducting an on-line virology lecture in the not too distant future. It sounds like it may be the same course material he teaches at Columbia.

[@annihilator22]

@@Peter_S_ at the Incubator! See you there?

[@goldreserve]

Peter Daszak 'confesses' to creating covid in his interview with Vincent 'TWiV 615: Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance'. Uploaded May 2020 filmed on December 9, 2019 at the Nipah conference.

[@Peter_S_]

@@goldreserve You can stop acting insane now.

[@fenz1]

@@goldreserve Trump created it you're wrong

[@PatricioStegmann]

Amazing conversation ! Thanks to both of you !

[@littleDoughie]

THANK YOU!!!! Ive been watching Twiv for months now and im so glad Dr Racniello is making is way on to larger platforms!!!!

[@HecmarJayam]

This interview gave me more information and answers than any other piece of media since the beginning of the pandemia. Thank you Lex!

[@EonSpringer]

Check out Dr Chris Martenson Peak Prosperity channel.

[@emerraldx]

This Week in Virology will blow your mind 3x a week then. Really we need to stay the heck away from the MSM for science news

[@damien1065]

@@wasdwasdedsf which guy?

[@ben5154]

@@EonSpringer Dr Chris Martenson is an "an economic researcher and futurist" odd recommending a 'Dr' who has 0 speciality in medicine in the context of covid. Also, anything titled "peak prosperity" sounds like some borderline evangelist bs.

[@IkeMann100]

3.5 hours, worth every second! Best podcast on Covid.

[@brucecapron9344]

I honestly appreciate your opening. I don't suffer viruses, I respect your decision on your vaccination. I'm glad I found myself here to hear a truly honest young man. You lightened my day.

[@cwsturgeon]

Lex. Even though a lot of people are giving you criticism on here, please don’t let it get you down. I’m not a smart man, but I learned more about this subject from this video than any of the other interviews I’ve seen, because of you asking good questions. And I don’t think people would be giving corrective criticism if they didn’t enjoy your interviews. I’m here in Texas as well. I hope to shake your hand one day. Please keep up the good work.

[@nazaninhaddadpour2957]

Lex, you spoke my mind about masks situation. I was so frustrated and questioned whether I'm the only one noticing this issue!!!! Loved the discussion and delighted to see a brilliant passionate scientist is speaking what's truly happening and not fall into the pluralistic ignorance that is going around these days. As a scientist and a fan, I will promote the idea of being open minded about those who would not like to get vaccinated.

[@Psnym]

Two of my favorite podcasts just collided. Awesome.

[@silverwolf4095]

A scientist, a bat and a pangolin walk into a wet market.. This podcast is the silver lining

[@PramodRamesh]

He's like Robin Williams from Good Will Hunting...passionate, humble and genuine.

[@titobandito6060]

Straight forward nonpartisan discussion about important topics that affect all of us. Thank you to Lex and the guest.

[@woritsez]

3:07:57 that vaccinate everybody thing, even those the virus poses little risk to, but vaccination has a whole list of harms and fatalities attributed to it, for those individuals not at any risk of serious harm from the virus. why would ya. just no way, no amount of coercion, bribes, name calling or exclusions. just no.

[@Ottee2]

Thanks for the discussion about Ivermectin, Lex. It has allowed me to correct my thinking.

[@constantlychangin]

Absolutely perfect guest yeah TWIV!!

[@TerryNails]

I'm so glad you had this gentleman on I understand so much more about what's occurring. Thank you ❤️👍

[@aristotleolympiada4540]

Vincent is great, exactly what you'd expect from a kind and morally balanced person. That said he does have a blind spot and would not allow himself to acknowledge corruption in science, medical profiteering and capture of regulatory bodies. Happens all the time.

[@PowderMill]

😷💰. Lex is Great…. But “Venereal Vinnie” (his nickname at Columbia where he is a professor ) is NOT to be trusted. He is highly controlled and compromised due to his dependence on research cash in the form of grants administered by the NIH. He is also an “FFF” (“Friends of Flunky Fauci”) and supports many of the same bio-ethically challenged and dangerous projects that Fauci does. “Venereal Vinnie” supports “Gain of Function” pathogen experimentation in highly risky laboratory settings like the P4 WIV lab in WuHan China. This is most likely the origin of the SARS COV2 novel coronavirus.! The virus had full funding supplied in sneaky and nefarious ways by the Evil “Doctor” Fauci. Lex’s guest was also one of the legitimate scientists who backed up Fauci and the NIAID / NIH when they strongly refuted the “Laboratory leak hypothesis”. Knowing of the origin of the research funding for the chimeric pathogen testing at the WuHan Institute of Virology, he maintain covert communications wiwith Fauci’s “Crisis Mitigation Team” created back in January 2020 after the pandemic started being discussed in the media. Thank you Lex!! Other than the coronavirus part, this interview was quite interesting. Vincent is truly an expert when it comes to the poliomyelitis virus and virology in general. Sadly, he is part of the mainstream corruption.

[@karthikg80]

great podcast. felt like Lex went on a rant in lot of the topics and didn't let the Prof. speak much on the subject and then going deep with him on them.. it was like asking an expert to join the conversation and letting opinion after opinion out.. btw I love what Lex does.. he should call the Prof. back again and have a conversation again as we have more information on most of the stuff..

[@Memen-Toe-Mori]

Sweet jujutsu injury! And great convo. Perhaps one of the best podcasts I've seen that seriously addresses some folks' concerns about the vaccines without talking down to them.

[@robertmclean2812]

I've listen to this podcast at least ten times. I'm so grateful for information like this but its disheartening that Lex felt he couldn't celebrate science because he was afraid to offend people who didn't agree with him. Speak your truth Lex. You're allowed to have an opinion and share it.

[@OMGAnotherday]

That’s not what he said! He felt there was too much controversy around the subject. That’s entirely different from people not agreeing. Words matter.

[@josechavez6315]

I really enjoyed listening because the discussion was easy to follow and understand