TWiV 1049: Long COVID's book of homeostatic cats

[@DudeFun-yi7nu]

Second time through this podcast, incredibly valuable, pearls for humanity each time you gather.

[@WillNewcomb]

Long Covid: so helpful to listen in to qualied people considering results of papers. Until now I've only come across media headlines which don't do justice to the finesses in the papers. Thank you

[@garthdryland]

1:25:00 NEW ZEALAND minimised deaths due to vaccination before infections. All cause excess mortality as a result stayed below the baseline given initially locking down super fast, masking etc. Saving lives comes at a financial cost. Hard to say if that cost is more, less or equal to the financial statements in countrires with high excess deaths.

[@ssun1218]

Hope Vincent got home safely!

[@Bogusuap]

I contracted COVID in July. By August, I underwent tests for my hormones and discovered that my cortisol levels were low. I'm also experiencing lingering symptoms of COVID, including brain fog and fatigue.

[@EnvironmentalCoffeehouse]

So I have Covid right now, and I have six rescue kitties that like to lay all over me. Funny that this was the cover of your show! I literally was laying in bed with a mask on to keep my cat from getting Covid because I read that they can.

[@stormwalker321]

Such a nicw group you guys are...!Enjoy listening so much...:)thx

[@jmer9126]

Thank you so much for this. ME/CFS is also endemic in Australia post Q fever

[@kazoz3520]

And after Ross River virus, also Barmah Forest virus.

[@brobinson8614]

And in New Zealand we have plenty of MECFS, but it was especially prevalent after an outbreak in 1984 in a small farming town called Tapanui Flu. Interestingly there were spontaneous abortions of lambs on sheep farms around that same area during that period. Good hard working farmers had their lives ruined, Not a disease many people recover from .

[@tonaruch8623]

Thanks Vincent for the musical accompaniment

[@estee233]

If the cortisol is low, it would have to have been high for a time. I have had this for 20 years. I have EBV, Herpes simplex, and other viruses some active. The high cortisol phase felt to me like perhaps a cytochrome storm of sorts. I could not imagine having Long Covid on top of ME/CFS.

[@deniseh32033]

I have similar history with LC on top. The dysautonomia, terrible brain fog and lack of concentration distressing, and PEM in both body and brain after 3.5 years and lack of treatments are the most difficult things. Dr Bruce Patterson is doing great work and successful treatment with retrovirals which can cross the blood brain barrier, and prava statins but not approved or available in UK. The Yale study is early days but sounds encouraging and caught your interest. I have been watching TWIV for years now in the hope you would catch on to the research. A lot is being done in Europe and South Africa too fyi. I had Covid v mild symptoms in March 2020.

[@Virusesluna]

I love this cat on the frontpage of the episode and i love the episode. ❤❤❤❤

[@leodikinis7390]

Fantastic! Thank you everyone!

[@chriswilliams2957]

Watching this podcast on 2nd October. I hope you got home or even better stay put. X

[@deborahfreedman333]

Great episode all around. Loved the response to the cat scan joke, "Give us a break Alan."

[@or8040]

Fascinating, especially the ERVs in cat cells paper 👍

[@Elcio_Leal]

Great episode! Many thanks for bringing these papers into the discussion. It's truly remarkable how cells have repurposed endogenous retroviral proteins, such as Syncytin and Refrex. However, I'm curious about whether endogenous retroviral proteins expressed on the cell surface can effectively provide protection against active retroviruses. This is particularly intriguing given the significant variability in envelope proteins among different retroviruses. Is there any in vivo evidence to support the idea that endogenous retroviral proteins can trigger an immune response and offer cellular protection against external retroviruses?

[@carol_d57]

I had severe fibromyalgia for over 12 years after having mild to moderate ME?CFS for a few years. I went the last 8 years with mild fibromyalgia. I had covid at the end of August, and now the fatigue, pain, and brain fog are pretty bad. I believe my cat got covid from he. He seemed under the weather and his eyes kept watering.

[@rouxbe3595]

Never know what you’ll hear on TWiV. Loved the bit of flying mouse opera music as well. 🦇 🎵

[@AlbertMark-nb9zo]

Just in. Katalin Kariko and Drew Weissman, just won the Nobel for medicine for their work developing mRNA tech.

[@zyxwvu]

Always good listening whilst I cook... the first third of this week's episode produced a broccoli and cauliflower soup, Many thanks. 🙏

[@zyxwvu]

@actyrrel Soften a large onion, a few small carrots, some celery, a leek, a red pepper in a little oil, add a couple of bay leaves and some garlic, and ginger and then stir in a large teaspoon of bouillon powder,some tomato paste, and some harissa paste. Add 1/2 a cauliflower and a crown of broccoli. Simmer till soft, blend and serve with a spoon of crème fraîche. Healthy and nutritious

[@LisaMartinez-ri6ve]

Thanks . Sounds delicious 😊

[@TinaLee]

Thank-you for the recipe! I usually listen while walking around and around indoors. Maybe I'll try cooking your soup next time!

[@DavidHonig-b9e]

Love the cat opening door in Tx

[@LucretiusDraco]

Thanks for all the mountains of information. Ik viruses are no laughing matter but they sure are fascinating!! Also I’m glad to hear ppl who hv been suffering for years w CFS are finally going to be taken more seriously! Maybe less gas lighting from physicians who didn’t understand the devastating and amazing effects viruses hv been hvn on our bodies and all life on earth since the beginning. This podcast is where I learned that even cancer can get viruses. That blew my mind.

[@SteveTheBookGuy]

The title was very intriguing. :)

[@tonaruch8623]

Did you make it home ok?

[@ceceliablair9177]

ME/CFS can only be diagnosed after 6 months of symptoms.

[@5amiann]

What's the 7 minute video on the origin of everything?

[@lesfaby8997]

A Guess:The title is a takeoff on "Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats" by T.S. Elliot, which became a Broadway musical

[@MichelleFunk-dj3sg]

I thought so too.

[@estee233]

But you have to run the reefers to keep the samples and at least on emergency generators if the lab is shut down.

[@traianliviudanciu8665]

Stress syndrom described by Hans Selye corelated cortisol level with some simptoms, years ago. Induced this pandemic cronic fear?

[@Ramiiam]

This week we learned that the COVID vax can cause irregular menstrual bleeding, and that spike proteins can persist in the body months after the shot.

[@lb9147]

:shock

[@Mary_QQQ]

SARS-COV-2 virus can live in the body for months; surprise surprise ! (sarcasm)

[@MichelleFunk-dj3sg]

Citation needed. Also, COVID infection has also been shown to cause irregular menstrual bleeding. This is not the gotcha you think it is because the immune and reproductive systems are tightly linked. I had irregular menses due to the vaxx, I'd still do it in a heartbeat and know it did not impact fertility or anything. However people tried to make it some big conspiracy and the CDC did not help by being dismissive of the numerous reports of it happening anecdotally.

[@EnvironmentalCoffeehouse]

I started the blue sky, and I think you need an invite code. I haven't been keeping up with it, but I might. The only reason why I stay on X, is because of the group of climate scientists that I associate with.

[@jmer9126]

It’s a goofy joke of a plot in Die Fledermaus

[@BudsPrintingSupply]

What? You don't have ads in a textbook? Your Principles of Virology Textbook is $100. If KZbin is giving you the opportunity to monetize you should take it. Use the money to hire people that can help you make better and more educational content.