Vinegar Expert Guesses Cheap vs Expensive Vinegar | Price Points | Epicuirous

In this episode of 'Price Points', Epicurious challenges vinegar expert Michael Harlan Turkell to guess which one of two vinegars is more expensive. Michael breaks down white wine, apple cider, balsamic and rice vinegar before making his guesses!
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[@justiniantbh]

one of my favorite things about this 'Price Points' series is that it reveals a lot of the magic of everyday life. as an average Joe, i miss a lot of magic in my life. i don't understand the artistry, craftsmanship and effort going into my favorite cheese, bread, knife, vinegar, etc. after these videos, i realize i should appreciate these little things more, and when you appreciate the little things more, life gets so much better :)

[@ilicarriedoll2843]

Well said ^^

[@James-le8gd]

whos joe?

[@Thehamstersgiude2u]

James Lee I am Joe :-)

[@josephburnside2135]

Beautifully said! I like to read about my favorite brand of item while I'm eating/drinking it sometimes lol

[@nvember11]

Price points should include a section where the expert explains how they became an expert!

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

That, and the actual brands being tested.

[@Bronzescorpion]

It would be cool, but then again if one is interested, they do provide the full name, so one can easily look them up. Furthermore if you look in the description of this video, they have actually linked to his vinegar cookbook that has won an award.

[@LimitRX]

i looked up some of the experts and everyone i looked up are actual big names in the industries theyre "experts" in ... like the chocolate one is like an heiress to a chocolate dynasty

[@kaemincha]

@Sir Nicholas D Not really. Most of the people they get on this show work in the industry and are very experienced, definitely knowledgeable enough to call experts.

[@janetrojas8939]

also the brands that they are using

[@mj13713]

Wow this dude knows a lot of random historical facts. I'd watch more vinegar related content from this guy

[@ash1869]

hes so passionate like wow, i love it

[@robertmanley3376]

He wrote a book and does a couple of podcasts! Highly suggest checking them out, he's a pretty cool guy. His book is called Acid Trip. He is on Modernist Breadcrumbs, Food Seen, and Burnt Toast podcasts too.

[@endlesswanderer1753]

@@robertmanley3376 I love finding weird podcast communities like these. Like, of course, there are food podcasts, but I've never thought about it! I just found a podcast called Woodtalk. It's dudes who do woodworking! I don't want to turn my own wooden spoons, but it makes me happy listening to these guys who do.

[@TheUmopepisdn]

His wife is an oil expert, but I hear they're separating.

[@VashtiPerry]

TheUmopepisdn 😂

[@andrews3137]

If only they had a h̶a̶r̶m̶o̶n̶i̶o̶u̶s homogeneous marriage.

[@johnuferbach9166]

@@andrews3137 i hear it was quite an emulsion

[@alexandergilles8583]

Get out of here 😂😂

[@butch431]

only +90 IQ will undertand the joke

[@simonmarthinsen1566]

House Hunters: Michael is a vinegar expert and has a budget of $1.2 million.

[@78625amginE]

Simon Marthinsen *snort laugh*

[@romainrisso2438]

I was exactly looking for this comment HAHAHA!

[@simonmarthinsen1566]

Romain Risso I’m here for you!

[@-TD227]

Amazing

[@Andrew-mw9is]

LMFAOOOO

[@shaneh2105]

This guy and the Pickle expert should hang out. Also a cheap vs expensive sodas would be interesting.

[@austenhead5303]

Is there such a thing as expensive soda?

[@radfatdaddy4169]

@@austenhead5303 I mean. Yeah, there are craft sodas. Sprecher comes to mind, which usually runs about $6 dollars for a four pack, but is so worth it.

[@hkyt21]

Alright, the next episode will be about oil for sure.

[@henryautumn37]

America invades

[@austinkim9402]

ft. Gordon Ramsay

[@lonedell129]

I don’t know if they’ll mix well together...

[@ferociousmaliciousghost]

After that'll be sporks.

[@muzosh]

Expecting a italian with slick black hair

[@paulsylvestor5506]

“Let’s taste the power of sour” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@edboy484]

"You can have one meal with anyone alive or dead, who do you choose" This guy. 100% this guy

[@xtxpxhx]

He's so passionate, I love him

[@projotce]

could you do one on honey

[@stevenpuckett5990]

Is should be able to make out of mead .

[@toastynotes]

When I eat salad with balsamic vinegar all I can think about is how much I love balsamic vinegar. It's sooo good.

[@aeilahpi1207]

try mixing it with a little good olive oil and seedy mustard, even better :)

[@swiftlylovestruck]

exactly. it makes EVERY vegetable tastier.

[@codyjames3416]

It's the most disgusting thing I've ever tasted and I truly believe it was invented by satan himself.

[@alexgrodecki4149]

@@codyjames3416 Your opinion is incorrect and disgusting, balsamic vinegar is the most delicious liquid ever formed

[@codyjames3416]

@@alexgrodecki4149 Are you Satan?

[@Voltanaut]

Vinegar is my favourite flavour, so I was salivating the entire video.

[@justbecause3754]

He's the hard core version of the wine expert

[@lauriedepaurie]

One of my favorote vinegars to apply in cooking is a white wine - taragon vinegar. An italian 'condimento' which is a white-wine equivalent of a cheap balsamic, with a lot of taragon pushed into the bottle. Adds complexity, a touch of sweetness and rounds out the unpleasant acidity. It's great for mayonnaise/hollandaise/dressings and simple pickling. Plus, a 'gastrique' (sugar and vinegar of some sort, reduced to a syrup) is a classic French technique to add complexity to any sauce/marinade. I make mine with (cheap) balsamic, honey and a small swig of red wine.

[@PeterTea]

Where is the peanut butter expert? We need to settle the raging debate between creamy or chunky!

[@waranghira]

Well, these vids aren't about which is better, but which is pricier. :))))

[@AbrasiveCarl]

@@waranghira Usually the better ones pricey or gets a run for its money.

[@assumingtrash6853]

Peter Tea creamy is much better

[@discipleofshaun5252]

Alton prefers crunchy so..

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

They don't compare different versions of a product to each other

[@stormblessed2321]

I was fortunate enough to receive a bottle of very high end balsamic vinegar as a gift. It was one of the best things I have ever tasted. So uniquely different from your average balsamic.

[@mailinjj]

How do these people always look like you'd expect an expert of that topic to look like..?

[@yogiyoda]

You had an expectation on what a vinegar expert looks like? Better imagination than me I guess.

[@Gaiwen_Li]

yogiyoda no they look like the food

[@KatarHero72]

I think they go out and find people who look like you'd expect for it. These people likely get an uptick in business because of people googling them.

[@junhacho3680]

I think the food we've consistently been asking for in the comments so far are olive oil, whiskey, pasta, and rice. @ epicurious come on!!

[@branchdravidian]

June Cho but how many different types of olive oil are there

[@MrDynamite110]

I'd like Rum, Mead, Vodka, Tequilla, Brandy, Milk, Butter, Yoghurt, and of course, everything you said.

[@sydnerella24]

They got whiskey!

[@kipz3154]

And water. Don't forget water.

[@scorpioninpink]

Whiskey is already up so oil, pasta, and rice I guess?

[@hearsthewater]

What about malt vinegar?

[@MerlinTheBird]

I really don’t intend for this to sound offensive but...why do so many of these experts look like the thing they’re reviewing

[@m.v.3141]

You are what you eat.

[@cerebrumexcrement]

😆

[@guguigugu]

he looks like vinegar?

[@ParallelUniversity]

The cheese expert lady definitely looked like a slice of cheese, in a good way of course

[@KingOfNormans]

How does a human being look like vinegar?

[@markhantla7915]

Was hoping for sherry vinegar. It’s not well known compared to balsamic, but it is uniquely sweet and flavorful.

[@cody6685]

@@itsgoingtobeok-justbreathe4808 nobody cares.

[@Delinae]

This episode on vinegar has got to be the most counterintuitive episode of the whole series. All the things I thought were evidence of good vinegars turned out not to be lol.

[@nicksande6880]

Radical.Compounds well on the positive side youve got cheap taste, which might sound bad but it also means you can get what you like for a cheaper price >_>

[@MatteoFitness]

Like what

[@goomagames]

He looks a tiny bit like Tim Allen, santa clause years.

[@vlnvlaclogbaerhpno]

Madeline Elizabeth just a little ‘bet’

[@elliotw185]

mom, dad, I'm going to vinegar school

[@Middyful]

Wow! The apple cider vinegar part was super informative.

[@alexgrover1456]

And a bit in accurate.

[@Marcus-gh8bh]

Is he mark Zuckerberg's dad?

[@VashtiPerry]

its_a_trab brother

[@zhazhagab0r]

Oh my gosh I can't unsee it

[@missOhdrey]

Pretty sure they’re the same age lol

[@thesaltyboat5316]

KZbin recommended: y’all like vinegar?

[@jackd4067]

Everyone talking about how the "editing mistake" shows off that they know the prices beforehand.... it doesn't. Look at the little bowls- they edited that part *from* a later point when the price tags were shown and the bowls had had vinegar put in them. This really is just an editing mistake, nothing more (not saying they don't know prices beforehand, maybe they do- but this does not prove that).

[@jonedwards2636]

The experts have been wrong before too. I'm pretty sure it's an honest test of knowledge. I don't think they know beforehand.

[@joyce4973]

they spelt epicurious wrong in the video title too

[@gaaraati]

I honestly think it's just the order in which the clips were put together

[@sacredsiren]

I would love to sit down and just talk to this guy for a few hours, he just seems really interesting and he has a lot of cool background information beyond just the vinegar. This series continues to be fun and fascinating and I can't wait for more.

[@Ralphgtx280]

I disagree with the expert. white distilled vinegar has its place in cooking. I use it in certain sauces that require the acid but not necessarily any ancillary flavor.

[@Ralphgtx280]

should be noted I am a hot sauce expert.

[@ohrats731]

Ralphgtx280 hm that’s an interesting point 🤔 I can’t picture buffalo sauce being the same without white vinegar lol but now I want to try and find out

[@rlamacraft]

Also, to help with poaching eggs

[@cody6685]

@@Ralphgtx280 prove it.

[@Ralphgtx280]

@Cody what am I proving ?

[@ILoveDawko]

04:13 "this is almost double the price!". Dude, come on.

[@sween187]

Stainless steel has a taste too, we're just so used to it, you can get gold spoons which has no taste to it as it's 'neutral'.

[@norgepalm7315]

Any decent cooking surface is seasoned to prevent this sort of thing.

[@derekarmstrong6743]

Hopefully nobody seasons a spoon.

[@arothmanmusic]

Now I wanna go drink a bunch of vinegar.

[@riannacarter4083]

Next episode: Toilet paper expert guesses cheap vs expensive toilet paper. 😂

[@guguigugu]

if there's brown on your fingers - its the cheap one

[@EggplantHarmesan]

That video would make my whole week and the cheap toilet paper would make his hole weak.

[@left4154]

In brackets taste test

[@SwillyumsSnacks]

It's just Sean Evans from Hot Ones.

[@jz4461]

The wipe test is brought to you by Taco Bell

[@BruH-dj9gg]

Idk why but as soon as I saw the video, I imagined him chugging the entire bottle

[@torianholt2752]

He would die from acidosis

[@kuroeltheog]

I feel this was one of the Price Point episodes I was most put off of because it was not not as compelling as the others. Upon reviewing this, after having watched the majority of the other Epicurous episodes, I feel that his expertise is one of the strongest ones out of the series. Superb analysis!

[@Cjinglaterra]

Nary a word on my favorite vinegar. Malt vinegar is the best.

[@BoogsterSugar]

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[@tredorre6590]

That guy is the most delightful expert ever, I just want him to explain everything to me in that tone XD

[@mistastevens5420]

The artwork of these is always so gorgeous

[@RapierD7]

His shoulder always moving, that's fantastic lol.........

[@moniquecastelli8058]

Denny Bastian lord now I can't focus on anything else!

[@clispyleaf]

That expensive balsamic had me heavy breathing God I'd love to try it

[@kitashoe9784]

The She-Dragon Me too!

[@KingOfNormans]

4:13 "This is almost double the price" (2.13 vs 0.95) Next video: Math expert guesses good math from bad math

[@Steve-bv1to]

$2.13 is pretty close to $1.90. Him saying it's almost double could be construed the same as him saying it's nearly double the price. Still accurate.

[@timothy11246]

Not all rice wine are sake，sake just refers to Japanese rice wine. There are also Chinese, Korean and other rice wine

[@urouroniwa]

In fact sake just means "alcohol" in Japanese. Nihonshu (lit. "Japanese alcohol") is what Japanese people call "sake". It took me a while to figure that out when I first moved to Japan. Nobody knew what I was talking about when I asked about "sake". As you say, there are lots of different rice wines around the world -- and a lot of rice vinegars too!

[@timothy11246]

@@urouroniwa well I know what you are saying. I am studying in Japan right now

[@armandofornario8071]

Before: Cheese expert, meat expert! Now: Vinegar expert, honey expert! Future: Cake flour expert, water expert!

[@eugenelee7620]

So. What you're telling ME that this dude tastes vinegar for a living and says "Yeah. That's expensive alright."

[@RubyJamez]

No he probably manages the vinegar production site

[@MrWilmaDickfitt]

He's a writer and a podcaster. Just google his name

[@ShadamAran]

This series is genuinely fascinating

[@businessbusiness9407]

Man was about to go off about that fancy balsamic. I feel like I've been robbed, cutting him off like that

[@fealubryne]

Love this! I already sip vinegar, not really for any major health benefit but because sometimes I enjoy the flavors you can find in decent vinegars. Glad to see I'm not entirely insane, haha.

[@tibor29]

Oh man, that's nasty.

[@fealubryne]

@@tibor29 Apparently not; how do you expect the guy in the video learned his craft?

[@MattMarshallUK]

Up next: Isotope expert guesses cheap vs expensive Polonium

[@Derfalken]

::Sees the first prices of $0.95 and $2.13/oz:: 'That's nearly double the price!' Well, you can tell he's less of a math expert than a vinegar expert.

[@jewelz00]

Raul was looking for this comment :D

[@jada90]

Saw that too :) he also seemed a little nervous and jittery throughout, so we could chalk it up to that too. Look at how often the camera makes edits - a lot more than in other episodes.

[@KayKayBayForever]

Isn’t it nearly double the price, though? What am I missing....? double $0.95 is $1.90, which is pretty close to $2.13, all things considered.

[@ElradUthran]

@@KayKayBayForever Saying it's nearly double the price means it is a bit less than double the price. He should have said it is over double the price :)

[@mustnotsleepmustwarnothers6463]

Nearly double works in both ways, if it's a little over or under it's still near the price point.

[@maryandchild]

this was really interesting to me, as a vinegar-maker.

[@GcCa2Lv]

Ok so, A) I’d LOVE to try that syrupy balsamic... maybe on a caprese salad 😋 And B) I was really hoping they would feature sherry vinegar. That’s my favorite kind

[@borbetomagus]

You might care to search out 'Aceto Balsamico di Modena, Riserva', which is very good for the price (~$23 for 375 ml). I'm sure you'd like Acetaia del Cristo's 'The Fabulous Paradise 2018' balsamic vinegar which is aged 150 years, but it costs over $300 for 100 ml.

[@elijahmikhail4566]

It’s weird to me that used the non-alcoholic definition of cider. To me, cider is an alcoholic drink made from fruits that’s less than 8% alcohol. Higher than that, and it’s considered wine. Since vinegar is made from alcoholic drinks, ACV is made from apple cider whether it was filtered or not.

[@Ritaaw1]

Crazy how common balsamic vinegar has become. Everyone eats it in Finland now.

[@oarmac]

please make an amateur series! "Vinegar Amateur Guesses Cheap vs Expensive Vinegar" it could be hilarious and would add little to no production costs as they could just come in right after and you could do another shoot. I think this would get tons of views and it would add a lighter and more accessible tone to the series.

[@ionpavlidis5978]

Always nice to meet a fellow vinegar expert. I started with general vinegar too, but decided to specialise in balsamic. You really need a specialty in the competitive world of vinegar.

[@tom_something]

How about the best distilled white vinegar? Kidding!

[@AB-lr5jq]

this was so great to watch because I LOVE vinegar so much!!

[@alvinkoeswanto8622]

While my ears listen to the expert but my eyes are all on the chalkboard art.

[@beeble2003]

Alvin Koeswanto There’s a video about the chalkboard art. Check it out!

[@cat0loves0jonas]

Do a whisky expert PLEASE. So much to learn as it’s such a large subject :)

[@Yurinoyuki]

I love vinegar und put it on nearly everything I eat :D (also Pizza, yep) Thanks for the education!

[@xalbatross1]

Same! I love vinegar 🤤

[@matthewwilson9749]

If this video had been made in the UK or any Commonwealth nation, there would have been malt vinegar included

[@sailorarwen6101]

There’s a shop in Sedona, Az that sells vinegars and oils. The people that work there let you taste/sample and combine flavors etc. It’s otherworldly. They have a jalapeño olive oil and mixed with a pineapple balsamic vinegar is heavenly. That’s just one of many. I never knew how wonderful vinegar could be and all that you could do with it until I went to that store

[@caelestisnox7045]

Really enjoyable video to watch while eating pickles Interesting about the akazu rice vinegar

[@sa1.artsss]

Hearing him talk about vinegar makes my mouth water 😅???

[@baloo3080]

nobody: someone tasting something sour: its very sweet

[@PeterandYen]

Who ever does those drawings in the back is very talented.

[@th223inoue]

Wow, I'm surprised akazu was involved. I don't see it often in English food/cooking videos. It's so good mixed with rice. Really gives it an umami flavor!

[@revorocks123]

Balsamic Vinegar 1 -"The viscosity means the bubbles have structure and tend to stay at the top without popping Balsamic Vinegar 2 - "This one is much more viscous so has less bubbles at the top, the weight of the liquid pops them" Somewhat contradictory there

[@philaphobic]

He wasn't very clear, but I think he meant that A is thicker than the other vinegar we tried today, and at this viscosity it has bubbles. Vinegar B was thicker than A, and at tgat viscosity the bubbles are absorbed. It didn't really cone out that way, but I think that's what he meant.

[@tharteon1866]

Idk why but now I crave for vinegar

[@RuckusRugs]

Why? Because you just watched a guy say how delicious it is for 15 min... Pretty obvious lol

[@hypotheticaltapeworm]

11:51 _Ice cream?_

[@TrilobiteTerror]

Yes, expensive balsamic vinegars are dessert balsamic vinegars. It's delicious.

[@SohiHien]

was expecting this guy to just drink the vinegar for the taste test since he is an expert.

[@theuniquebean]

I don’t know why I dig this guys so much! He just has such positive energy!

[@afishynado6812]

I started a course to become a vinegar expert, but it just left a bad taste in my mouth.

[@Matt_uniqueHandle]

Did it sour your opinion on vinegar?

[@elijahmikhail4566]

I miss specialty vinegars from the Philippines. The most common vinegar that we used was sugar cane vinegar, but specialty vinegars include vinegar from rice, sugar palm, mangrove palm, coconut, and strawberry wine.

[@Ekibiogami1]

Just a minor correction... Lambrusco wine is made from lambrusco grapes, not trebbiano. Balsamic vinegar is usually made with trebbiano grapes, however, and both products generally come from the same region, emilia-romagna.

[@Serjohn]

2:45 me sending screen prints to my ex

[@Arberin]

For a moment I thought the title said "Viagra Expert Guesses Cheap vs Expensive Viagra"

[@Bojoschannel]

This guy clearly loves his job. Nice.

[@danielm5535]

Part of Balsamic vinegar, traditionally it is fermented directly to vinegar, not juice/must to wine then vinegar. This direct to vinegar process uses different yeasts and produces a smoother product. With each batch of vinegar, some old is blended with the new. A “24 year” vinegar is dating the youngest batch, and may include vinegar which is decades older.

[@jennifershay8980]

This is going to sound strange (propably because it is) but a few drops of balsamic vinegar in lemon-lime soda or ginger ale is delicious! It adds a very unique fruitiness and tartness to the soda. Highly recommend as a cocktail alternative. Also this series is going to turn me into a food snob, LOL!

[@paulwilliamson6660]

The acid in vinegar is also good for various bodily processes.

[@scientificatheist9381]

Yes if you a little bit over long term then it aids in fat loss

[@michellechee7890]

Balsamic is my favourite and always goes well with salads

[@jameslulll7503]

Now this is a good one because u can't tell which is more expensive based on the looks.

[@Skippa1986]

4:46 Here's a little trick to remember: If it's clear and yella, you've got juice there fella! If it's tangy and brown, you're in cider town! Of course, in Canada the whole thing is flip flop!

[@AgentAlmost]

$2.13/oz vs $0.95/oz "This one is almost double the price of the other one." At least he didn't claim to be a math expert.

[@jacknotnimblejackbethicc4908]

AgentAlmost lol

[@Saki630]

I need to use some of this jargon next time i go down and taste the \/ : "delicious, it has an acidic front that kids off a floral medley that is accentuated by a sweetness at the end. The way it livens up my pallet, sticks to my lips and perks my senses really makes it special and deserving of another taste. You have been curating this for many years and it shows in the flavor, clarity, viscosity, and price."

[@hello8036]

I wanna do this job. If like salt and vinegar to the point where I can drink the mixture. Send help y’all.

[@raulquindosmorales6819]

The background music, his way of explaining and enthusiasm.... crazy

[@thewokebros1557]

Can we please provide this guy with some bread. I understand he needs to taste vinegars plain, but he can do that, and then just munch on some bread bc it is delicious. Maybe it's just me, but I enjoy watching people happily eating.

[@joeman840]

Okay ill try to remeber all of this while sneaking little sips out of the bottles at the grocery store

[@cornonthecob]

He knew what he was talking about and more!!

[@lucifnil]

With how much I love vinegar, I'm loving this rn

[@ngs5554]

A L same

[@chiefmonrovia6691]

balsamic B was thicker than a bowl of oatmeal, got me moist just looking at it

[@chiiyaseeds]

I don't know why but he's a very buoyant person and it's cute

[@amzytheking]

He just seems so lovely and friendly. I 100% want this guy to be an expert of something else so we can have him back

[@andrews3137]

The one knock I'm going to have to give him was for his use of the term "bubble nucleation" when the gas retained in the foam was much more likely just Incorporated air from shaking then from gas nucleating out of solution.

[@HowToOverthink]

If anything, all it shows is that it contains a small amount of surfactants.

[@MichaelHall1989]

As a lover of vinegar, I appreciate this video. :)