Vintage Story Desert Life Stream 17 (27 July 2024

[@CygnusiaX1]

I wish I hadn't missed the stream (again! My morning involved car repair annoyingness, which accompanying back wreckage) but I could have walked you through the whole Langrstroth process. Also, you can stack 4 supers together... 40 liners is a ton of wax/honey. It is frustrating needing a backpack slot, but the author was going more for immersion in mind. Personally, I think they should make an addon for CarryOn so you can use that function to pull them off one at a time.

[@Kurazarrh]

I find it odd that the hives (and even the skeps, to be honest) require a backpack slot... like do beekeepers ACTUALLY put these things on their backs, or are they going to set them down a few feet away and get to work?

[@PhilBoswell]

K starts talking at 0:10 and reveals the game at 3:18 so you don't have to wait very long 👍

[@rbratta]

You don't eat termites when out and about? It's one of my favourite travel snacks when I'm exploring in dessert areas 😅

[@Kurazarrh]

Haha, no... I probably should, but 1) I forget you can eat them and 2) once you destroy a mound, it never comes back!

[@crone2219]

If nothing else, you have helped people decide not to do those beehives. But you did great. I think the game needs to add a way to just throw things up in the air. And then you could just calmly walk away.

[@Kurazarrh]

Haha, I hope I didn't come off as TOO frustrated. It really is an *interesting* mod. I think it would be a GREAT mod if they changed two things: one, don't force the use of a backpack slot; and two, making the frames interaction less fiddly; maybe just right-clicking on the frame box should remove them sequentially, and crouch-right-clicking should add. Scrape with a knife in the inventory, rather than in a dedicated frame rack.

[@themidnightrust]

haha, talking about how to make From Golden Combs more accessible and user friendly, like Vinter Nacht's entire design philosophy isn't to make mods as brutal and fiddly as possible lol. They literally made a mod that makes crops grow *in real time* Making everything take backpack slots was ✨a choice✨

[@Kurazarrh]

Oh, yeah, it's pretty obvious that this mod was designed the way it was intentionally. And each modder is going to have personal tastes for "how much grind do I like in my coffee?" For me, personally, a mod that makes the bootstrapping part more involved should be easier to use in the long run. But here, it seems like it's just as complicated to use as it is to set it up.

[@Bromon655]

I think the issue is that even in the spirit of the mod’s brutal design philosophy, the backpack slots stuff is just senselessly arbitrary. Especially considering some components of the hive can be held in your hands and others can’t.

[@themidnightrust]

My favorite Vinter Nacht mod is In Dappled Groves, you have to split firewood on a splitting block and saw planks by hand on a sawbuck, no more inventory crafting 😂 I've never tried the Langstroth hive, ceramic ends the skep grind and that's good enough for me lmao. Vinter Nacht really does make excellent mods, but by god you have to like punishment to use them lol

[@magus_sibyl]

The better ruins mod has schematics that allow you make stuff you can’t really craft in vanilla I believe, as I found a few in ruins and one of them you can make those banners

[@Kurazarrh]

Yeah, someone else mentioned that, and we did find a schematic for something, though I don't recall what off the top of my head. Looks like it's down to random chance, though, but maybe we'll get lucky!

[@StorytellerWMD]

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